Very cool!Impulse buy, just because I liked the way it looked. Has both tool rests and separately mounted shields. Cleaned up the bare metal parts and wiped down the rest. Replaced the set screws (one was broken off) and one nut on a tool rest arm.
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M J Peters
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Another Craigslist find. 1/3 HP Craftsman for $50 - a fair, but not great price. Complete except for 1 rubber base bushing and the quench tray. The eyeshield both have one of the eyelets broken off - (if anyone knows where I can find replacement shields please let me know). Spun right up, runs very quietly and coasts down for a very long time.
I also picked up a cast iron stand - haven't put it on a scale yet, but feels to be well north of 100#. No manufacturer's marks that I've found - pretty rough casting. I am intrigued by the eyelets on the base, not sure what they would be for.
I also picked up a cast iron stand - haven't put it on a scale yet, but feels to be well north of 100#. No manufacturer's marks that I've found - pretty rough casting. I am intrigued by the eyelets on the base, not sure what they would be for.
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I also picked up a cast iron stand - haven't put it on a scale yet, but feels to be well north of 100#. No manufacturer's marks that I've found - pretty rough casting. I am intrigued by the eyelets on the base, not sure what they would be for.
I'm thinking that that may originally have been a base for some kind of punch or press machine with a foot pedal. The eyelets would be for the pivot on the foot lever. ????????
emeraldcoupe
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estate sale find a few weeks ago. 1/2 hp motor
M J Peters
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jakemac -
That certainly makes sense.
That certainly makes sense.
Duct Tape Man
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Got this at the flea market today - not sure of it's history or mfr. date. Kenmore motor, 1/3 HP, 1750 rpm, type SKO. Shaft is stamped "Craftsman" but no other mention of CM on the unit. Uses 110 VAC. Cost me $5.
If anyone has any more info on this model and when it was made, I appreciate it.
If anyone has any more info on this model and when it was made, I appreciate it.
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jakemac
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From the history of Sears/Craftsman at the Vintage Machinery site (OWWM)
http://www.vintagemachinery.org/mfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=222
http://www.vintagemachinery.org/mfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=222
Duct Tape Man
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Very interesting, thanks for the info!
Perhaps this grinder is older than I thought. Started the teardown of the motor tonight, going to put the original style switch back on (some numbnut decided to install a pull-type light switch), new power cord, new bearings and paint, and will stab on a wire wheel and a buffing wheel to take care of the work end of the unit.
McBrownie
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Here is an older Doerr Grinder. I'm not sure of the age, but if anyone has any insights, it would be appreciated. Still runs well.
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Electromachines, Inc. was founded in 1939 by three sons of Emil Doerr, who was the co-founder of Baldor. In 1951, Electromachines, Inc. changed its name to Doerr Electric Corporation.
Since your grinder has both names on it, I'd say it dates from around the time of the name change.
Doerr grinders were very high quality tools. Nice score.
drivesitfar
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McB:i do like your Doerr grinder and i had a chipper made by them and it was a beast. can i ask you for more pictures of your awesome stand that looks like you can pull it out of your bench and put the grinder on the shelf and exchange with another grinder or tool?
WWII: thanks again for more great information
ALL: i picked up this old grinder which i think is a Craftsman, but I didn't get a chance to take good pictures before my bride kidnapped me. i'll get more pics later with the specs. i plugged it in and it runs great.
WWII: thanks again for more great information
ALL: i picked up this old grinder which i think is a Craftsman, but I didn't get a chance to take good pictures before my bride kidnapped me. i'll get more pics later with the specs. i plugged it in and it runs great.
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Electromachines, Inc. was founded in 1939 by three sons of Emil Doerr, who was the co-founder of Baldor. In 1951, Electromachines, Inc. changed its name to Doerr Electric Corporation.
Since your grinder has both names on it, I'd say it dates from around the time of the name change.
Doerr grinders were very high quality tools. Nice score.
Interesting! I've had for about 10 years. Got it for $25, if I remember right. It is a smooth runner, but the windings look and smell like they've seen better days. I'm not sure if it overheated at some point or if the varnish is breaking down. I picked up a couple Craftsman block grinders and I have kind of retired the Doerr. This thing is much heavier than the Craftsmans.
I welcome any insight into the condition of the motor. It's been that way since I got it and it hasn't given me any trouble.
McBrownie
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Good eye! Yep, it's built with a couple of decent drawer slides. They needed to be good because the Doerr is heavy. It has a piece of 1/2-20, I think, threaded rod that tightens into a 1/2" thick metal plate in the bench. The table is just some scrap 3/4" plywood that I had laying around and the handle is a cheapo table leg from Lowes or Home Depot.
I've only had the Doerr mounted there, but maybe I should turn it into more of a universal mount. Hmmmmmmm.
drivesitfar
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McB:sounds awesome and post more pictures here or on my vise stand thread since it could be used for a vise too. I've been wanting to find a way to be able to use more of my stuff without having to buy a home with a 30 x 60 or bigger shop.
here's what one member did for his Wilton vises and it should work for grinders and a few other tools too i would think.
here's what one member did for his Wilton vises and it should work for grinders and a few other tools too i would think.
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I'll post a few more pics in the morning. I really like the trailer hitch idea too. My problem with a bench grinder on or near the bench is that it makes a mess! Plus, it takes up room which could be used for mounting more vises.
drivesitfar
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i was thinking of putting the trailer hitches on one of my carts so i could take the grinders outside. i know what you mean about the mess if you put them on or near your shop bench.
check out my vise stand thread and i think one of our members did the cart thing mounting a different tool on each corner.
post your grinder attachments over there and we'll save this thread for the good old grinders that seem to be popping up every now and then. anybody else that has a great way to mount a grinder or a vise other than original stands please add your posts to this thread i started below or get some ideas that maybe might work for you.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237524&highlight=vise+stand
check out my vise stand thread and i think one of our members did the cart thing mounting a different tool on each corner.
post your grinder attachments over there and we'll save this thread for the good old grinders that seem to be popping up every now and then. anybody else that has a great way to mount a grinder or a vise other than original stands please add your posts to this thread i started below or get some ideas that maybe might work for you.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237524&highlight=vise+stand
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Given the 1/4 HP rating, it's possible that at some point in the past 60+ years, it was pushed a little too hard.
Your grinder doesn't have a temperature rating stamped on it, but my very similar early-1950s 6" Delta-Rockwell, which was also made by Doerr, has a temperature-rise rating of 55C. That means the operating temperature can rise as much as 99F above ambient temperature, which is pretty hot, so the 60+ year old insulation could well be breaking down by now and causing the smell.
Opening the grinder up and taking a look at conditions inside is the only way to know for sure, but you can also put an ammeter on it to see what the starting and operating current is and to make sure the centrifugal switch or potential relay (if so-equipped) is working. Running current should be at the stamped current rating or a little lower. Higher than rated running current is an indicator of burned or shorted windings.
McBrownie
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Thanks for the information WW. It doesn't run hot, but has been making me a little nervous. I'll check out the amp draw to make sure I'm not headed for trouble. I think it's just getting old. Time to shift the load to my 1968 and 1983 block grinders. The youngsters of the bunch!
McBrownie
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Pictures and a quick write up are on the above thread. Enjoy!
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Itinerant
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Long story short, seller agrees to split up a grinder and pedestal he has for sale since I only want the pedestal for one of my Craftsman block grinders. When I arrive he practically begs me to take the grinder for another $5, the data plate was painted over but I can tell it’s a Wissota (told him that too)and for $5 I can’t go wrong even though it’s missing the tool rests and eye shields. A careful cleaning this morning exposed the data plate and from the serial number I believe it’s manufactured in 1963. Runs strong and smooth but needs a new plug. Now off to clean up and re-paint the pedestal.
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Outlawmws
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Well don't you just **** big time? 
Rests are EASY...
6"?
Rests are EASY...
6"?
Itinerant
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Yeah, 6", 1/3 HP, has a fine aluminum oxide wheel on the left and a course wire wheel on the right. I'm already working on rests, this one will be a gift to a grinderless friend of mine.
drivesitfar
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I rarely see a Cincinnati grinder, but found a beast on Craigs here in Seattle. it's not as pristine as Carla's, but it does have a bit of character behind those huge shields. not for me because I don't have 3 phase or a need for another grinder. it is cool and thought it needed to find it's way on our grinder thread.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/tls/4540737472.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/tls/4540737472.html
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This 7" Baldor grinder looked like Fido's **** when I got it. It had been painted several times. I dis-assembled it, bead blasted the parts back to bare metal, primed/painted it, the bearings wheels were replaced with new ones and some NOS Baldor eye shields installed as it didn't have any when I got it. It was missing the nameplate and still doesn't have one but I'm fine with it like it is. I have the original pedestal base but haven't gotten finished with it yet. The eye shields are older than the grinder itself. The're made of laminated glass and according to the paper that came with them, they cost $3 when new. I know the paint is not a good match for the original Baldor paint but I refuse to pay $16 a can for their spray paint.
Hot Chop shop
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This 7" Baldor grinder looked like Fido's **** when I got it. It had been painted several times. I dis-assembled it, bead blasted the parts back to bare metal, primed/painted it, the bearings wheels were replaced with new ones and some NOS Baldor eye shields installed as it didn't have any when I got it. It was missing the nameplate and still doesn't have one but I'm fine with it like it is. I have the original pedestal base but haven't gotten finished with it yet. The eye shields are older than the grinder itself. The're made of laminated glass and according to the paper that came with them, they cost $3 when new. I know the paint is not a good match for the original Baldor paint but I refuse to pay $16 a can for their spray paint.
Looks like a close paint match. Turned out great!
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drivesitfar
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I'm going to post 2 old grinders on the same post because they are so small compared to the monsters I've seen posted here in the past.
1) Black & Decker 1/4 HP old on a homemade stand and runs like my 1/3 or 1/2 HP block grinders. any idea on the age? maybe 40's or 50's or??
2) Craftsman 1/3 HP missing eye shields, rests and water tray, but runs great. also sitting on a one piece cast iron stand and wondering what this stand had on it originally because it had a handle that is broken off on it? Craftsman grinder maybe a 1940's version??
1) Black & Decker 1/4 HP old on a homemade stand and runs like my 1/3 or 1/2 HP block grinders. any idea on the age? maybe 40's or 50's or??
2) Craftsman 1/3 HP missing eye shields, rests and water tray, but runs great. also sitting on a one piece cast iron stand and wondering what this stand had on it originally because it had a handle that is broken off on it? Craftsman grinder maybe a 1940's version??
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wrenchguy
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1150 lb pedestal grinder update, It works real good.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3880828&postcount=194
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3881309&postcount=197
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3880828&postcount=194
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3881309&postcount=197
The Black & Decker grinder is 1950s.
The Craftsman grinder is late 1940s or early 1950s.
Klizbe Mfg. made special-purpose grinders and sharpeners, so the stand under the Craftsman grinder originally had a Klizbe grinder/sharpener of some sort on it.
McBrownie
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Holy smokes! What a setup. By the way, where did you get your flame retardant shorts?
drivesitfar
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WWII: thanks again for sharing your wisdom
Wrench: as i might have said before if the town is out of power they probably just give you a call to ask to plug into yours. nice tools and amazing is hardly a good enough word to describe them.
Wrench: as i might have said before if the town is out of power they probably just give you a call to ask to plug into yours. nice tools and amazing is hardly a good enough word to describe them.
wrenchguy
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Holy smokes! What a setup. By the way, where did you get your flame retardant shorts?
just my everyday work ones, so impregnated with grease and oil that the sparks just slide off.
I'm well and truly impressed, your grinder makes my 'pet' grinder look teeny-tiny by comparison.
And......your genset is well and truly impressive, too.....that's a real piece of equipment.
Well done, wrenchguy............ : )
cheers
Carla
I'm well and truly impressed with the 'spark show', your grinder makes my 'pet' grinder look teeny-tiny by comparison.
And......your genset is well and truly impressive, too.....that's a real piece of equipment.
Well done, wrenchguy............ http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/images/smilies/beer.gif
cheers
Carla
ewils35
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I got an old superior don't know much about it. Got it from my old job. We were cleaning the storage shed out and this was back there. I asked the manager about it and he's like go for it but doubt it if it works. Took it home and plugged it in and she worked like a charm.
Last week I was in desperate need of a bench grinder. Amazingly my luck turned good for a change and on the way into town I stopped by a garage sale. Lots of baby clothes and then this. Runs super smooth. Only thing missing are the eye shields, other pieces just not pictured. For $10 I've been derusting bolts all week. Eventually I'll clean it up and repaint, but for now it needs to work.
Can anyone narrow down a time frame for when it was manufactured?, 40's? I tried searching the cat number but couldn't come up with anything
Can anyone narrow down a time frame for when it was manufactured?, 40's? I tried searching the cat number but couldn't come up with anything
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drivesitfar
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Z: nice score on the Baldor. until WWII sees this my guess with that badge and the bolt on top of it is maybe mid 1940's built. glad to hear is runs great and at $10 aren't you glad you stopped with the baby clothes out in front of it?