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I consider screwdrivers to be a "consumable" Same as a saw blade, shop rag, or grinding wheel...Wont spend big bucks on one..they all eventually round off, chip, or break. This is the HF screwdriver you want...They last as long as the truck brands i have owned, and are very comfortable in the hand. And the hole in the handle is good to run another driver thru...to get xtra torq on it, works better than the bolster...This is one of the HF no brainers. Dont take my word for it.....Go spend the buck and whatever...this thing will earn it's keep...

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-x-4-inch-phillips-screwdriver-94707.html
 
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Someone remind me again why I care what tool someone else uses?????

because that guy happened to work on the truck of a guy who brought it in for a filter change, he tightened down the intake on a truck with a crappy screwdriver and couldn't finish the job when it broke, since he was lazy and cheap he just left it that way. the truck drove out of the shop and with its loose intake, it then became blocked after it slipped off and sucked in part of the intake pipe.

after the intake pipe got sucked in he had to make an emergency exit off the interstate, in doing so he accidentally side-swiped a car causing the expecting mother in the car to give premature birth to her child. this child he was born on the side of a highway, delivered by the good guy truck driver, was born much too early due to the stress of the truck side-swiping their car. so the child was born a little "off". in 15 years because of the accident the child will grow to be the worlds most feared and hated leader of the free world, conquering all other countries and taking control of everything we know, forcing everyone into oppression.



there you have it, if you buy snap-on you prevent the apocalypse people. remember that
 

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Aren't these the same screwdrivers they give out as freebies?

The only HF screwdrivers worth a damn are the neon/gray handled "Pros" that everyone raves about(which are quite good). Everything else is dollar store quality, at a dollar store price.
 

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I have a giant set of Whia scrwdrivers that are my main set, however I have this set from harbor freight:

http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece-professional-screwdriver-set-94607.html

Anything dirty or abusive and the harbor freight set gets first crack at the job. I have yet to break one or ruin a tip. I have really been getting my $9 worth out of them. My set may be a bit different, they are orange and green. Might be just a color change or just lower quality.

I am no cheerleader for HFT, I can't say I would ever be disappointed in their tools with how low I feel about them to begin with. But rarely from time to time I am pleasantly surprised.
 

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Isn't the reason for the original post to get a chuckle, or at least raise an eyebrow. That is a unique thing to have happen, who cares what brand it is since it is not a common problem, it is a fluke. Can we grow up and move on?
 
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Isn't the reason for the original post to get a chuckle, or at least raise an eyebrow. That is a unique thing to have happen, who cares what brand it is since it is not a common problem, it is a fluke. Can we grow up and move on?
Thank you.
 

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My point for this thread was to show the carnage. I had never, ever seen a screwdriver fail like this and I thought others would get a kick out of it.

KCTYPHOON did you even read my post? I do not, nor will I ever own any Pittsburgh PRO screwdrivers. I never expected anything out of these tools, they are not mine. All of the carnage was done with one hand in a twisting motion.

Umm.. Yea I did read it - and yes I know it's not yours.. And with my crystal ball I have deduced that your dad does not want his son to ruin $100 screwdriver sets, so therefore he buys some from HF so you can learn how to use them first..:)
 

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I love these threads.

They ****.

Do not.

****.

Best ever.

Neener neener.


No actual scientific testing.

Usually most of the people posting have never owned or used the item.

So what fun is it to read a thread like this?

First, it informs that all tools can be broken.

Second, it shows that there are lots of choices for tools at most any price point.

I can only report my own experience.

And I must qualify it.

I have never owned or used SO or Wera or any of the other expensive screwdrivers.

So I have no benchmark to compare against.

And any evidence I give is anecdotal at best.

I use Craftsman or Kobalt or any cheap screwdriver that comes to hand for general around the house work. They all work OK as long as I choose the right one for the job.

Most often I will use the free HF ones because I have them everywhere.

The other day I had a screw in a plastic anchor that was too tightly secured. Tried the HF thru bolster ones and a wrench. Leaned against the end with my body. It got them out when no amount of hand force on a regular one would do the job. Screws were those darned phillips ones.

Another instance of the right tool solving a problem.

If someone provides me a tool that does the job I need accomplished, and does so for a price, that's great. If they can make it a work of art as well, and do that at a cost I can justify, I'll get that too.

Tool arguments are kind of funny.

I'm just glad we have all these choices.

Since I can't help but feel u took a stab at me, I'll take one back -

And I loves these posts:
I have an $8 screwdriver set I've used everyday for 4 years and they have never failed
- well they **** cause it's not snap on, and the snap on screwdriver will turn the screw better

I have a $20 ratchet I've used everyday for 4 years and it has never failed
- well it ***** cause it's not snap on, and a snap on ratchet will turn a bolt better

I have a $500 tool box that ive used everday for the last 4 years and it has never failed
- well it ***** cause it's not snap on, and a snap on box will hold the tools better..

Listen guy - you can crack on people , myself included, for not refinancing my house to own snap on' stuff.. I'm not a mechanic, so why the **** would i? BUT THE REALITY IS - my $8 screwdriver set, my $20 ratchet, and my $500 tool box keep MY CARS out of YOUR SHOP, where you intend to charge me $95/hr for labor dictated by books, instead of how long it actually took you. So its less money out of my pocket to buy the tools, to keep NO MONEY from going into yours.. So guys can laugh all they want, cause I'm laughing too when I see the "snap on bill collector" driving around.

now to recap - your joking with me about how I dont "own the best tools" but yet I can still do most of the work i need in my driveway.. So I have enough skill to get by doing most of your job - you wanna see if you have enough skill to do mine? :shocking:
 
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Thanks OP! I'm packing up all of my freebie cheap screw drivers to avoid a similar catastrophic failure. Imagine the damage to the ungloved hand :shocking: LoL
 

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why the hell is anyone still using phillips screw drivers????? p2 bit and and impact driver=done
 

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Blah.. My tools are better because they are more expensive, Blah.. My tools are better because they are cheaper..

When will enough be enough? Does anyone really think that we care that brand your using or your justification for defending a screwdriver brand in your box?

Maybe a forum tool that Auto bans anyone who puts HF and Snap on in the same response?
 
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Being that I actually use tools for a living. I will tell you why my screwdrivers are a truck brand over these HF, not going to say what brand cause this applies to all of them.

I absolutely, positively do not want to strip a screw out. The truck brand will be a better fit into the head and have a better grip, period. That matters to me, especially when that ***** is corroded real good.

You also know why I don't use a $500.00 tool box (now I am targeting you kctyphoon, because you irritate me, and I hate people with no respect or understanding for my industry)? Because they are tiny, puny, not deep enough, have a horrible drawer layout for a professional level of tools and it doesn't hurt that I got a signed pamphlet from all the Americans with families to support thanking me for my business.

As far as ratchets go, they are self explanatory. Anyone who has picked up a truck brand ratchet will immediately feel why they are better.
 
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why the hell is anyone still using phillips screw drivers????? p2 bit and and impact driver=done

It was actually a #3 and it would have stripped out using a #2. I could not find a #3 for the impact.

KCTYPHOON,

Chill out all ready, no one cares if you like Happy Fart tools. I own a little of everything, including some HF stuff. I think you are taking things too seriously and I am afraid you may pop a blood vessel or something. I would sit back in your easy chair and take out your HF knitting needles and start making an ugly sweater for the office Christmas party.
 

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Being that I actually use tools for a living. I will tell you why my screwdrivers are a truck brand over these HF, not going to say what brand cause this applies to all of them.

I absolutely, positively do not want to strip a screw out. The truck brand will be a better fit into the head and have a better grip, period. That matters to me, especially when that ***** is corroded real good.

You also know why I don't use a $500.00 tool box (now I am targeting you kctyphoon, because you irritate me, and I hate people with no respect or understanding for my industry)? Because they are tiny, puny, not deep enough, have a horrible drawer layout for a professional level of tools and it doesn't hurt that I got a signed pamphlet from all the Americans with families to support thanking me for my business.

As far as ratchets go, they are self explanatory. Anyone who has picked up a truck brand ratchet will immediately feel why they are better.

What is "your industry"...?
 

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Auto repair, didn't you see what he said about it?

Yea..i did..Sounds like he is a weekend warrior. Probably does some work in his driveway for friends and family. Has no clue how things are for a real technician...Good tools..in the right hands MAKE MONEY..they dont COST MONEY...There are some exceptions, but thats it in a nutshell. If he has never worked for book rate, and had to deal with all that entails ( service writers steering the gravy to their buddies, etc)...you cant help him.
 

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Yea..i did..Sounds like he is a weekend warrior. Probably does some work in his driveway for friends and family. Has no clue how things are for a real technician...Good tools..in the right hands MAKE MONEY..they dont COST MONEY...There are some exceptions, but thats it in a nutshell. If he has never worked for book rate, and had to deal with all that entails ( service writers steering the gravy to their buddies, etc)...you cant help him.

That's not the part that bothers me. He can weekend warrior all he wants to his car, it's his car. Has nothing to do with his tool selection or hatred of my tool selection.

It was his *******, uneducated ignorant comments about labor rates and book time.

This is an expensive business to be in for both the shop and the technician.

And then he suggests that the good techs who bought the tools needed to do a job faster should be punished for that.
 

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Im still trying to wrap my head around the fact that this all started as a thread about a broken screwdriver. Lol. The Harbor Freight love in this thread is strong.
 

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Please tell me EXACTLY HOW - you USING a tool that cuts the labor time in half, reasonably entitles you to charge me for that time anyway.. Can't wait to hear this one..
 
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Please tell me EXACTLY HOW - you USING a tool that cuts the labor time in half, reasonably entitles you to charge me for that time anyway.. Can't wait to hear this one..

I will try to post this down to your level as best I can, but unfortunately they don't have Crayola font on here.

Book time is based off an average mechanic using hand tools to do the job.

Technicians buy air and cordless and specialty tools to accomplish the task faster for the sole purpose of being able to do the job faster to make more money for their families.

What you are suggesting is the technician make a larger investment in tools to make less money. That is the dumbest thing I have heard today.

Book rate exists so everyone pays the same for the same service on identical vehicles. If we were to go to straight time pay, what is my incentive to fix your car in a timely fashion? None. What is my incentive not to drag out the repair an extra hour to pad my check? None.

Book rate is a win-win for the shop and the customer. You will pay exactly the same as the guy who came in last week with the exact same car for the exact same repair, and not more because we put the rookie on it to cut his teeth and he took twice as long as the tech who did the other guys car the week before.

If your brain cannot comprehend this. Then I will have to wait for the Crayola font.
 
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Says the man doing oil changes "Professionally" on 25 year old Hyundais.. Lol

Did everyone know, that 80% of all hyndias sold in America are still on the road today?? It's all cause of this guy.. Thank god..

Yes, people bring their 25 year old Hyundais to the dealership. What a maroon.

:wtf:
 
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