The VISES of Garage Journal

[oldldh]

It would drive me nuts if I had to use and look at that bench with those three misaligned/offset holes. Gorgeous bench, but those three holes....

Shame on you!!!

 

[Tarnished]

Wanted to add this Wilton to the ever growing arn pile. Picked up this 3in at local auction today.




Birth date is 12-30-64 which would almost make it a "New Years" baby.
Pretty nice shape for 51 years. Good scrubbing, bit of buffing, a little lube, and some waxing is bout all this one is going to need to get it back into the workforce.

Question for the Wilton experts: I have an earlier model of this 3in being a 1947 model. It is significantly smaller than this1964 version.





Is this due only to year of manufacture? Or was there significant model change somewhere along the line?

 

[Mark in Indiana]

I bet that Tucker is a lot rarer than good examples from the old makers, It could well be the only NOS in box out there, also a real possibility that it will never be used.

For $2800.00?!?!?!?!?

 

[dutchgray]

For $2800.00?!?!?!?!?

Collectors are nuts, I would not pay that, plenty of good Record wood work vices for cheap that I could actually use available over here.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

I bet that Tucker is a lot rarer than good examples from the old makers, It could well be the only NOS in box out there, also a real possibility that it will never be used.

Did you see the NOS Record 75 on eBay the other day? Not in that price league but still very strong money for a record 75.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131416330062

343 quid

 

[exmaxima1]

My four inch athol I just finished up. I painted it with plasticote cast refinishers, then done the lettering with my wifes fingernail polish. The spring that holds in the main screw was a real pain. I read some guys saying to compress the spring in a vise then use wire or fishing line to hold it, but that wouldn't work for me. The spring fit too tightly around the screw, ended up using two bbq scewers to compress the spring then stuck the pin in. The previous owner made some brass jaw covers which are really nice to have. One more done and already looking for the next one. This forum has ruined me.

Do a search next time. There is a very easy way to compress the spring with a piece of tubing.

 

[joe.striper]

Finished my quest with my 5' 'mill buggy'. Just gorgeous. All ball bearing, all the locks work with keys. All metal. Side drawers are by Penco. 7" bb casters.

came with this little 3.5" Ridgid that is in perfect shape. Everything for 100 bucks. Have to research the vise, now the newest in my shop.

So i have 400+ lbs of metal and that 300 lb bench in the back. Bring on the snow.

 

[JeremyBurke]

Joe So are you keeping that ridgid or are you selling it to me?

 

[Blue Frog]

Strange looking vise on Columbus C/L


http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/4907560362.html








What is it?


Blue

 

[McBrownie]

Oh I hope not VA, that would be the last thing I would hope for, the jaws can handle 1100 degrees before losing any hardness, it would be a great weld shop vise. The square slider has plenty of scars, the rest was in pretty good shape before I started.

Kevin,
Really nice job on a vise that is not easy to restore. Are the Parker jaws getting any easier for you to fabricate?

 

[macgee]

Your reasoning is based on logic. What something is worth, especially on e-bay, does not usually follow the path of logic.

Emmert's always fetch top dollar, many people know of them and want them. Probably not too many people know of the Tucker, and few would pay the (crazy?) price of $2800.

You get 2 or 3 people that like it, want it, and know there aren't many opportunities to get one in the future, and this is what happens.

Brother MacGee---

I have a good friend who has just retired and is building his woodworking shop...

I will NOT show him any of your photos!!!

Well...

Maybe...

If he needs a little winding up...

And like Oldie says, very nice bench and vises

Thanks guys, these vises are a dream to use. While the ones in the photo's are not mine using one is awesome and you can understand why they sell for so much after using one compared to regular dare I say static vise's.

In case anyone is interested in buying a beautiful one, the restored vise in the first pic is for sale in Canada. It's going for around $730 US. Looking at the condition (appears to be complete) and restoration put into it I would say it could be a good deal for the right person who is looking for the ultimate wood vise. Just add some cork and your good to go for at least two to three more generations.

This is a big vise, look at the scale in the 2nd photo.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-tool-storage-bench/hamilton/emmert-k1-patternmakers-vise-vice/1029582395?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

 

[joe.striper]

Joe So are you keeping that ridgid or are you selling it to me?

I'll sell it and ship it. I did a cursory search and found not much on it. I know its rusty but its just surface. If your serious email me we will work it out. It's really cute.

 

[bl00]

Strange looking vise on Columbus C/L

What is it?

It appears to be a Rock Island Combination Anvil Vise Drill. They really dug deep thinking up the name for that one. It was the most practical combination vise ever offered according to Rock Island..

 

[mike_paxton]

Strange looking vise on Columbus C/L


http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/4907560362.html








What is it?


Blue

Blue Frog:

Carl Shields Anvil Vise.
Pat'd Sept. 22 - 1914

Mike

 

[KMScott]

Kevin,
Really nice job on a vise that is not easy to restore. Are the Parker jaws getting any easier for you to fabricate?

Thanks and yea got them figured out, I have several grinding wheels all set for the different sizes, my biggest problem is getting the dimensions from the owner of the vise, I first make the fits about .010 smaller and have the vise owner fit the jaws and they must measure the gaps with feeler gages when the vise is lightly closed. The first important adjustment is the parallelism of the jaw faces, The Parkers are pretty loose so if the faces are within .010 the closing pressure will align them parallel, the rest is pretty much hitting the numbers. Some times I can finish with one mailing/fitting but most of the time I need a couple mailings.

 

[oldldh]

Reverend Scott---I'm absatively, posilutely sure that I understood everything you just said...

I think...

Maybe...

The funny thing, is your newly restored 956 is just what I need...

No, it's not...

Now...

Which Grandchild can I pawn...

 

[topop101]

Any one have any clOO as to the worth of an American Red Seal No. 63 . There just isn't much info out on these or the American Scale. It's in very nice shape and is , I believe ,and is a 4 incher.

 

[FMC1959]

Strange looking vise on Columbus C/L


http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/4907560362.html








What is it?


Blue

Back in the day, there were many variations...

 

[topop101]

Finished my quest with my 5' 'mill buggy'. Just gorgeous. All ball bearing, all the locks work with keys. All metal. Side drawers are by Penco. 7" bb casters.

came with this little 3.5" Ridgid that is in perfect shape. Everything for 100 bucks. Have to research the vise, now the newest in my shop.

So i have 400+ lbs of metal and that 300 lb bench in the back. Bring on the snow.

That look like it goes and easy 200 lbs. Since you have it loaded you may as well bring it to me in Missouri... I'll meet you in saint Louis, I know a collector there we can pick on

 

[balane]

Here's a 1745 I just finished. For paint I first laid down a textured base coat followed by a few applications of the color which is Oil Rubbed Bronze. Then I put on some satin clear coat to complete the look. This vise is a 2011 and was lightly used so it's in very good condition to begin with. It just sat in a humid environment and needed to be cleaned up.

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[KMScott]

Balane, really nice. I see what you mean with the cloud cover. Someone will love picking this up from you. I like seeing the end cap bare. You are the Master.

 

[jreb10]

Balane, a really nicely-done job! I am envious of your skills.

May I ask what you used for the textured base coat?

 

[Tyberius]

It would drive me nuts if I had to use and look at that bench with those three misaligned/offset holes. Gorgeous bench, but those three holes....

I count more than 3

Still better than I could do though.

 

[balane]

Thanks guys. I threw out the can that I used for the texture base coat and the garbage man came this morning. It was sandy colored, I assume enamel based. You can find a multitude of textured paint at any store I've ever been in. Typically you can feel it on the cap to choose something you like.

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Balane, Great job as usual
Kevin, That Parker in black came out nice.
It's back to the basement for more practice to get to the level you two are.

Blue Frog, Those old anvil/vise's have so much play and movement it's sad.
The adjustment pin is missing on that one. You can only tighten the screw about
2 inches if you miss your guess on depth of the work piece. The jaws move side to side a lot because of the inside T-Bar not being tight. Overall it is a vise that would work if you didn't have anything else. The one thing is mine is not cracked on the anvil portion and it has taken a beating.

 

[cretedog]

My Blacksmith Partner just finished up the 'stand' for his Hollands 18 and newer Morgan. Top is 5' x 10' x 1-1/4". Frame is heavy 4" I beam. Legs 1/2" wall x 5" tube. Feet 1-1/2" plate. I'd say he did well...

 

[cretedog]

More-

 

[cretedog]

More-

 

[joe.striper]

I finally unloaded everything, by myself. What a PITA! So here are pics of my buggy that i will be using for my vise restorations. This thing is awesome and super heavy duty. I was wrong about its origins. It belonged to an electrician at the Westinghouse plant in Allentown.

The first vise is the back of the 6" Prentiss the 2nd is the back of the 6.5 Monarch. I cannot believe how similar these vises are to one another. Biggest difference is the Monarch jaws are screwed in the Prentiss are (to my eyes) molded in.

Someone should be VERY HAPPY because neither of these big vises is a swivelin' *******

 

[cretedog]

Last-

 

[joe.striper]

Last-

Oh well, I THOUGHT, my buggy was cool. Thanks for making me feel inadequate!!

 

[topop101]

I finally unloaded everything, by myself. What a PITA! So here are pics of my buggy that i will be using for my vise restorations. This thing is awesome and super heavy duty. I was wrong about its origins. It belonged to an electrician at the Westinghouse plant in Allentown.

The first vise is the back of the 6" Prentiss the 2nd is the back of the 6.5 Monarch. I cannot believe how similar these vises are to one another. Biggest difference is the Monarch jaws are screwed in the Prentiss are (to my eyes) molded in.

Someone should be VERY HAPPY because neither of these big vises is a swivelin' *******

You have had an awesome trip. With some really grand finds. I'm inspired.

 

[topop101]

Had to play hooky from work today and babysit my sick grandson. He's 7 and my new tool huntin buddy. We hit on a nice little stash of items today

 

[topop101]

Here's a few other things . I have no idea what the black pieces are but they were thrown in on the deal so no loss if they are just scrap. Any one have any idea what they are? Then there are some nice Starret punch's , a pair of Peterson dewitt "duck bills" with paten pending on them and a pair of craftsman ratchets with paten pending on them. One look older than I have ever seen . The other must be the first of it's kind with a swivel head for a craftsman. The other thing I have no clOO about is the jack with handle. The owner thought it might be off of a model "T" or "A". Any info out there on any of my finds today?

 

[CwazyWabbit]

.... I have no idea what the black pieces are but they were thrown in on the deal so no loss if they are just scrap. Any one have any idea what they are? .....

They are for panel beating, ones a ******* and ones a dolly

 

[topop101]

They are for panel beating, ones a ******* and ones a dolly

Ok now what's a panel beating... I'm clOOless

 

[CwazyWabbit]

Ok now what's a panel beating... I'm clOOless

Taking dents out of car body panels or any thin sheet steel

Like this

EDIT: actually this guy shows how they work better

 

[jakemac]

Ok now what's a panel beating... I'm clOOless

Whatever it is, it will cost extra at the Bunny Ranch.

Panel beating is body work. It's when you beat the panels on the car back into shape. Of course, that was back when cars were built like tanks, now the panels are made of tin foil or plastic and just get recycled and replaced with aftermarket parts that don't fit.

 

[topop101]

Whatever it is, it will cost extra at the Bunny Ranch.

Panel beating is body work. It's when you beat the panels on the car back into shape. Of course, that was back when cars were built like tanks, now the panels are made of tin foil or plastic and just get recycled and replaced with aftermarket parts that don't fit.

gotcha... thanks. Any info on the other items... The old jack?

 

[topop101]

Taking dents out of car body panels or any thin sheet steel

Like this

EDIT: actually this guy shows how they work better

well cOOl . Thanks.