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TimDaToolMan

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What are yours?

Mine are..

1. People who constantly list new snap on and other truck brand tools for more than even they cost directly from the website.

2. People who list broken tools that have a lifetime warranty, which shows laziness. Tonight someone had a broken snap on breaker bar, that they could of exchanged for a brand new one..
 
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Why does it bother you? Next you will be starting a thread in regards to why people buy specific brands...






Lol.
 

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The broken stuff...can't the Snap-On man deny warranty for suspected abuse? That's an up-front question, I haven't owned a lot of Snap-On and certainly never broke any of it. I'd wanna be danged sure I can get those broken ratchets replaced before bidding a nickel. Maybe the guy has a vendetta against his Snap-On man and was trying to screw him over, but the Snap-On guy gets up earlier in the morning than he does?
 

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The broken stuff...can't the Snap-On man deny warranty for suspected abuse? That's an up-front question, I haven't owned a lot of Snap-On and certainly never broke any of it. I'd wanna be danged sure I can get those broken ratchets replaced before bidding a nickel. Maybe the guy has a vendetta against his Snap-On man and was trying to screw him over, but the Snap-On guy gets up earlier in the morning than he does?

Yes he could.
 

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Guessing these have possibly been warrantied once already. When you call the 800 number for small thinks they don't make you send it back.
 

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I've bought A lot of used tools, No doubt in my mind that some of those hinge joints have seen some vice time, especially the one bent both directions. Wtf..
 

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Or the seller on ebay selling the green hard handles for nearly double the cost of buying directly from Snap-on.
 

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The only reason to Sell on EBay is too make $$$, it would be a poor plan of attack to attempt to Sell at Cost plus applicable fees. Are people still selling HF coupons on EBay?
 

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There is someone out there that would buy them. Either they don't know real value or need it quickly, or something about that set is more appealing, easier to buy etc.
 

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Mine are:

1. People that complain about what other people list on Ebay.

2 People complaining about other people selling broken tools on Ebay.

:wtf:
 

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Worst one for me occurs at flea markets.

You see some tools that someone has laying out on a table, and walk over to check them out. Upon further inspection you notice that, perhaps, some of them are good quality brands, but have clearly been used many, MANY times over the years. You pick something up to look at it, and you instantly hear "That's a [insert brand name here], and we both know what that's worth. You can have it for [insert MSRP minus 5% here] dollars."
 

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i don't buy expensive tools, just what works. So I don't care. If it ain't a good deal, it's not getting my green.
 

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I don't like people that are rude and don't haggle. I picked out 4 sockets at a yardsale a few weeks ago and offered the guy a dollar and then the guy starts going on and on about oh those are s and k (could not even bother to say it correctly) and he ain't gonna give him away and comes back at $2. I say a dollar is reasonable and that I get them all the time for $.25 each,they were well used,rusty and in meh condition, nothing special just 8 point sockets. Also when I was looking at other stuff he just stared at me like I was gonna steal the ****, even told me to give them to him if I wanted them. I probably would have bought them if he was not so rude and acting like I was gonna steal the ****. **** that guy.
 

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I don't like people that are rude and don't haggle. I picked out 4 sockets at a yardsale a few weeks ago and offered the guy a dollar and then the guy starts going on and on about oh those are s and k (could not even bother to say it correctly) and he ain't gonna give him away and comes back at $2. I say a dollar is reasonable and that I get them all the time for $.25 each,they were well used,rusty and in meh condition, nothing special just 8 point sockets. Also when I was looking at other stuff he just stared at me like I was gonna steal the ****, even told me to give them to him if I wanted them. I probably would have bought them if he was not so rude and acting like I was gonna steal the ****. **** that guy.

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Can't stand that.
 

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I don't like people that are rude and don't haggle. I picked out 4 sockets at a yardsale a few weeks ago and offered the guy a dollar and then the guy starts going on and on about oh those are s and k (could not even bother to say it correctly) and he ain't gonna give him away and comes back at $2. I say a dollar is reasonable and that I get them all the time for $.25 each,they were well used,rusty and in meh condition, nothing special just 8 point sockets. Also when I was looking at other stuff he just stared at me like I was gonna steal the ****, even told me to give them to him if I wanted them. I probably would have bought them if he was not so rude and acting like I was gonna steal the ****. **** that guy.

I'm the same way. Especially in pawn shops. I know they really don't give a damn if I buy anything or not, but if I'm standing there with cash in my hand the least they can do is not hit me with attitude. I mean if they wanna price the **** high, fine. If they don't like my offer, fine. But I don't need to be talked down at like a criminal.
 
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One of my pet peeves is when people use chrome sockets on impact guns.


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I don't like people that are rude and don't haggle. I picked out 4 sockets at a yardsale a few weeks ago and offered the guy a dollar and then the guy starts going on and on about oh those are s and k (could not even bother to say it correctly) and he ain't gonna give him away and comes back at $2. I say a dollar is reasonable and that I get them all the time for $.25 each,they were well used,rusty and in meh condition, nothing special just 8 point sockets. Also when I was looking at other stuff he just stared at me like I was gonna steal the ****, even told me to give them to him if I wanted them. I probably would have bought them if he was not so rude and acting like I was gonna steal the ****. **** that guy.

I'm the same way. Especially in pawn shops. I know they really don't give a damn if I buy anything or not, but if I'm standing there with cash in my hand the least they can do is not hit me with attitude. I mean if they wanna price the **** high, fine. If they don't like my offer, fine. But I don't need to be talked down at like a criminal.

Ditto. I'll never understand why people decide to sell stuff, be it a garage sale or a pawnshop or whatever: only to have the raw nerve to treat potential customers like **** and also behave like we are insulting them by having the gall to offer them money for the items they have for sale.

Honestly I love to haggle but I can also respect someone who doesn't want to do so when they sell. All it takes is a sign on the table at the garage sale or behind the counter at the pawnshop that says 'all prices firm' or 'no haggling'. Seems even that bit of courtesy is often too much for some folks to muster.

I will say this...nothing talks like money does. My Dad used to have a saying and it's as true now as when I first heard it when I was little: Money doesn't talk, it stands up on a chair and screams.

Wanna get a good price at a garage sale or a pawnshop or wherever?
Try this out sometime. Go ahead and pick out what you want and start loading up the counter or the table and don't bother mentioning price at all. When you are ready to pay: Get out your cash/wallet whatever and nicely and politely ask 'how much?'.

When they fire back with the total for everything without taking anything off gently ask if there is any room to move on the price. If they won't budge or won't start dealing even a little bit then you politely say thanks for your time, put your money away, smile and head for the door. Nine times out of ten they will try and stop you from leaving and cut a deal.

And if the pawnshop hits you with an attitude while holding a fist full of dollars: just head for the door and scratch the place of your list. Never grace them with your presence again.
Some people just have no business sense or common sense. Those in business won't be for very long. And I've yet to be in a pawnshop where almost everyone behind the counter wasn't a complete and total tool. I knew a couple cool guys but most were just miserable bastards.
 
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One of my pet peeves is when people use chrome sockets on impact guns.


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Agreed, chrome vanadium is not meant for impact use.

I should clarify my early post. My pet peeve isn't with the ebay seller selling items for more than you can buy them for directly from the manufacturer it's with morons that are dumb enough to pay the price. This is a capitalist country after all so more power to the sellers that are able to find these mentally challenged people that'll pay double the price. Hell, I've been tempted to do it myself, but I just don't want to take advantage of the handicapped like that. They have enough troubles in their everyday lives.
 
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TimDaToolMan

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I have sold a lot of stuff at flea markets, and I will tell you that you HAVE to have a buffer in your price. If you want $20 for it, ask $25, not only do people "dicker", it makes them feel better thinking they got a deal.

When I go to yardsales, and if I buy a bunch of stuff, I put it in a pile and have them add it up, if it's like $39 worth, I will ask if they will take $35. Since I'm buying a half dozen items, usually people give a small discount.

What I LOATHE is when I go to a yardsale and see something with "make offer" on. Either I insult them, or they are thinking "gee what a sucker".
 

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Pet peeves? Rip off prices. This is why I refuse to buy certain tools from certain makers. I don't like feeling I'm getting screwed, or taken advantage of when I buy a product.

Hassles on so-called lifetime warranties.
 

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What hassles have you had?

Asking for receipts on hassle free warranties. Not wanting to honor battery warranty when they knew they were faulty to begin with. I stuck with that one and fed it to them, so to speak. I got my batteries replaced with the model that superseded the bad ones.
Not honoring a lifetime tool because they don't make that exact thing any more so telling the customer, "sorry".
This is all bad business, in my book.
 

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I'm the same way. Especially in pawn shops. I know they really don't give a damn if I buy anything or not, but if I'm standing there with cash in my hand the least they can do is not hit me with attitude. I mean if they wanna price the **** high, fine. If they don't like my offer, fine. But I don't need to be talked down at like a criminal.

this is close to my pet peeve with tools, used tools that is.


tools are tools, they work or they don't. but just because it's used and you know it still works doesn't mean it should sell for 10% under new price, anybody can get 10-20% off of new just by going to a store.

the last time i was at a pawn shop i was trying to trade in a junky old chicago pneumatic impact that i got for 15 bucks at another pawnshop in town (same pawn shop, different location), decided i didn't need it anymore because it served it's purpose. i also brought with me a 3/4 cp772h that was well used but only a year old and worked perfectly just to see what i could get because i don't need 2 3/4 impact guns.

i told the guy at the counter i wanted to see if he would do a trade for a snap-on im30 (real old and beat up i might add). because i need a 3/8, and have too many 1/2 and 3/4 guns. i already know that the pawn shops love to throw around the snap-on tax if it has the name on it. and the price on the snap-on was 60 bucks lol.

he took my guns and looked at the CP on the side, and straight up said "yeah i don't know if we can give you much for these harbor freight guns to do a trade for a snap-on". i had to set him straight and tell him that CP is not central pneumatic, that is chicago pneumatic. and that gun he was holding cost 400 a year ago. he took a few seconds and checked the serial numbers and goes "wow, yeah i guess your right these are pretty good". then proceeds to tell me that he can give me 20 in credit for the "big one" and 10 for the "little one" and id' need to hand over 20 for the im30.... i told him to let me test it first and see.

lo and behold the snap-on didnt even turn with the compressor hooked up. he tested mine and both worked great. so i told him that i'd trade just the 1/2 since his gun didnt work and mine did. and he could easily sell a working impact instead of hoping somebody wants to buy a dud, i could maybe find parts for the gun and fix it, or be out some money on parts, but they would have to spend money on labor and parts to get it working, not gonna be worth it.

he took the trade and i left with my 3/4 and the im30, so i basically traded a crappy CP impact that i bought from another branch of the same pawn shop, for a gun they wanted to label as 4-6x as expensive. now you know they are full of ****. (also when i got home i found that the power selector for the snapon was all the way down. it worked just fine)









all the **** aside, i try not to go to pawn shops anymore, even if you can find the odd deal. it isn't worth having some guy behind a counter tell you that you are holding ****, and they are selling gold no matter what you bring in.
 
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I don't like people that are rude and don't haggle. I picked out 4 sockets at a yardsale a few weeks ago and offered the guy a dollar and then the guy starts going on and on about oh those are s and k (could not even bother to say it correctly) and he ain't gonna give him away and comes back at $2. I say a dollar is reasonable and that I get them all the time for $.25 each,they were well used,rusty and in meh condition, nothing special just 8 point sockets. Also when I was looking at other stuff he just stared at me like I was gonna steal the ****, even told me to give them to him if I wanted them. I probably would have bought them if he was not so rude and acting like I was gonna steal the ****. **** that guy.

The going rate for used American made sockets in good condition is a buck a piece from what I'm seeing today. Rusty and in poor shape why are you even bothering? Though 8 point sockets are somewhat rare to find.

Four goes into twelve three times so that means 12 point drives work on square heads too. Seeing as you didn't get those 8 point sockets.
 

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The going rate for used American made sockets in good condition is a buck a piece from what I'm seeing today. Rusty and in poor shape why are you even bothering? Though 8 point sockets are somewhat rare to find.

Four goes into twelve three times so that means 12 point drives work on square heads too. Seeing as you didn't get those 8 point sockets.
Eh, unless I really need specific sockets, a specific brand I want like plomb or they are usa made metric then I am not willing to pay much more than $.25 each. I probably would have bought them if he was not being an ******* and treating me like a thief.
 

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Technically if you buy snap on stuff on eBay there's no warranty as it's for the original purchaser only. Auctions like that annoy me, but only because it's taking advantage of Snap on. Do it long enough and the rest of us are going have a more annoying time trying to get items warrantied that we may have purchesed years back and no longer have documentation for.

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I really hate people that go to yard sales and swap meets to buy tools to flip for profit.

Seems like a cheesy way to make money.

Why don't they get a real job?
 

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I really hate people that go to yard sales and swap meets to buy tools to flip for profit.

Seems like a cheesy way to make money.

Why don't they get a real job?

Funny you mention that.

My grandpa and I split a $220 lot of tools last week. I took a bunch of what I wanted/needed, he took what he wanted out, and the rest of what we didn't want, we resold Friday. We got half of our money back and kept a great deal of the best tools from the original lot. The guy that paid us the $110 for what we had left, had resold them for $162 within an hour that same Friday. The guy who paid $162 for them had all of them laying out for sale on Saturday morning. Makes you wonder if the people who go around buying tools every week actually buy them to use, or just buy to make a profit.
 

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Another pet peeve of mine is when people use the wrong tool for the job, the tool breaks then they blame the tool.


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I'm the same way. Especially in pawn shops. I know they really don't give a damn if I buy anything or not, but if I'm standing there with cash in my hand the least they can do is not hit me with attitude. I mean if they wanna price the **** high, fine. If they don't like my offer, fine. But I don't need to be talked down at like a criminal.

True that. Last time I was in a pawn shop I saw a CP air hammer sitting there, no retainer, no chisels/punches, just the bare tool. No way to test. Asked for price, was told $80. I thanked the guy for his time and put it back on the shelf. He got the lady that actually ran the place and asked her for a "best cash price" since I'd expressed interest and I was the only potential customer in the store. She said $50 cash and it was mine, I offered $20 and pointed out that it'd take at least $30 to make it usable, only reason I did that was because I have no air hammer at all. You'd have thought I'd told her she had an ugly kid the way she looked insulted, but sorry, I'm not paying near retail pricing for a used, untested tool that's missing parts... just not gonna happen. I hope she is enjoying that air hammer...
 

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I really hate people that go to yard sales and swap meets to buy tools to flip for profit.

Seems like a cheesy way to make money.

Why don't they get a real job?

Probably because there are not that many real jobs left. I buy lots of tools, and other things, at yard and estate sales, some even at the swap meets. I often buy a big pile, keep what I want, and sell the rest to break even and get what I wanted for free, or make a little profit sometimes. Sometimes I get lucky and make a huge profit.

I don't think I could make a living at it, well, not a good one anyways, but it is a nice little addictive hobby that I can get things I want and sometimes make a little money on the side. Everyone who sells at the swap meet is there to make money I assume. They all bought the stuff for less. Hell, the company that sold it new made a healthy profit on it.

My only real pet peeve is people who try and hide problems with what their selling to defraud you. When I start closely checking something and they get mad and defensive, that's the give away, and I walk away. As far as price, it's either a price I'm willing to pay, or it's not. They can ask whatever they want. I can move on to the next deal, and the next deal, until I find a price I'm willing to pay.
 
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