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Thanks for the kind word rev. Scott. I won't be taking any business from you any time soon. It took me a week of lunch breaks to get this done. So time alone kills the deal.

The movie idea morphed from an original joke I made a few weeks back. June Buggy (Smitty, Uncle Buggy) was headed to Denver for treatment and you offered to pick him up and drive him to your shop. I cracked that we should make a reality show based on the two of you called "Chips and Smitty." Tag line: The misadventures of two metal master.

I know I would watch that show.


HA..."Chips & Dip" would probably be closer in regards to me. :p
 
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Vintage: i just grabbed the mail and found a nice surprise in an envelope from my young Canadian friend. anybody that thinks the younger generation doesn't have any skills take a gander at this little gem. i showed it to my bride and i'll be lucky to have visiting privileges of this fine tool now. anybody else agree? Thank you very much and i wasn't expecting that.

Jeremy: you've put together maybe the nicest full size Walker turner i know of now and happy to know it has a great home with a skilled user. Check out Jeremy's Hodgepodge garage thread in the garage gallery if you want to see a work bench for the ages to sit next to this DP. you might also say how you found all the missing parts to get the Walker Turner and his XY vise to where it is today. quite a journey that is for sure.

Chips and Smitty show sounds like fun to me. where do i buy a ticket??
 

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drivesitfar

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TOP: nice story about selling vises at work just randomly like that. i bet they will all be smiling on their ways home tonight. the hard part for us when sizing your 5197 was the wood in the background that you apparently now own too.

i hope you left that gal's home smiling and hope she was too.

congrats
 

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You flippers are so sensitive.

It's just a vise. Good money selling to the hipsters though. They love the pretty paint.

(maybe jealous of ya making a little $$$$) :lol_hitti



Welllll.....I just seem to "Buy and Restore" and add them to a big shelf....then I decide which one I want to mount like the "Flavor or The Month" that I can bust my knuckles on. I'll need to slow it down though...I'm getting low on trading stock (Old Crow Whiskey, firecrackers, .45 reloads, peanut brittle, etc.)

It's high quality Old Crow too...actually has floor wax splatters on it from being so low on the store shelf.... :lol:
 

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Twertsy: nice work. looks great and let us know how they work and hold up.

Dagny: that little vise looks like it's meant to do most any job and at most any time. since it probably has in the past how about putting some fresh grease on it or some oil to keep it working for another few years because it looks like the Sahara inside that vise. also welcome to the forum and do you have any big old iron in the barn to post a few pictures of?

If I grease it up it has a tendency to loosen up almost lost part of it in the woods I've got a big vice in shop I will take more pics. would like to know more about it. thanks
 

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Glad you like it drives! That's definitely my most popular knife. One of those is one of my main edc knives. I have had people suggest it being perfect for everything from in the kitchen, to field dressing ducks, to opening boxes. Took me about 4 prototypes to get that design all figured out. It's probably the design of mine I'm most happy with.

you can never have too many tools
 

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Vintage: i just grabbed the mail and found a nice surprise in an envelope from my young Canadian friend. anybody that thinks the younger generation doesn't have any skills take a gander at this little gem. i showed it to my bride and i'll be lucky to have visiting privileges of this fine tool now. anybody else agree? Thank you very much and i wasn't expecting that.

Jeremy: you've put together maybe the nicest full size Walker turner i know of now and happy to know it has a great home with a skilled user. Check out Jeremy's Hodgepodge garage thread in the garage gallery if you want to see a work bench for the ages to sit next to this DP. you might also say how you found all the missing parts to get the Walker Turner and his XY vise to where it is today. quite a journey that is for sure.

Chips and Smitty show sounds like fun to me. where do i buy a ticket??




Nothing pleases me more than to see a young person take up a craft like this. I am very impressed with his workmanship. For all of you who have honed your skills, take the time to share it with a young person every chance you can. Drives, please tell the young knifemaker for me, he did real good on that blade and keep up the good work.
"You can't teach what you yourself haven't been taught"
 

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Glad you like it drives! That's definitely my most popular knife. One of those is one of my main edc knives. I have had people suggest it being perfect for everything from in the kitchen, to field dressing ducks, to opening boxes. Took me about 4 prototypes to get that design all figured out. It's probably the design of mine I'm most happy with.

you can never have too many tools



I should have figured that came from your shop, Vintage....awesome job on that knife. :)
 

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Dagny: that's too funny about the vise on your tractor falling apart if you grease or put some oil on it. don't change a thing then and yes tell us more about the vise or vises you actually store inside the shop.

Vintage: i won't be dressing any ducks because i never got the hunting bug, but let me tell you once that knife you made touched my wife's hands i had to promise to put it in her knife rack or she wouldn't let go. i'm guessing it's going to get plenty of use in our kitchen because she loves to cook.
 

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Previously posted by Drivesitfar.

VA: its a 30 minute drive for me if you want twins. the seller sells new and scratch and dent tools.
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Drive, I'm still not sure that mine isn't black-market-knock-off.---I sure don't want two of them.
 

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I'm not sure if I should keep reading here for my own safety and sanity.
I get enthused about all these different types of vises and I buy one at a GS and a couple at auction and more here and there and bring them home to find some spare spot, resting place in the garage. Well tonight I decided to gather them all up and organize in one place and realize I have somehow over time accumulated 18 vises that are awaiting restoration with only two in process. (er, slow process)
I think I must have some sort of disease or contagious mental condition from staring at these pages.
Is there any cure?
Now I need to think about retirement so I can have more time to be busy.:dunno:
 

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VA: if i get some time next week i'll try to stop by the Wilton 800 owner's store to ask him what he knows about it and report back. i'll also look to see if he still has some new scratch and dent Jet pallet jacks or anything else i might be able to use.

I wonder if they would really bother to copy a 200 pound vise when they could copy the smaller ones much easier? i'm guessing yours is real and i hope i'm right.

RM: if they will all fit on a pallet i just heard from my Fastenal guy that their shipping is still working ok. how about a family shot of the farm fresh vises??

ALL: here's what a $425 Wilton C1 should look like if you are going to buy one. notice mine is restored and it does have the swivel base? I've also heard that you can buy a new one for about $550 if you want a new one.
 

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Wow, the Los Angeles sellers continue to impress:

No "garage journal" weirdos need apply. This is a MAN'S VISE. You won't be putting nail polish on this one, shining it up, or making it pose for your gay pictures to show your internet friends.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/tls/5048537289.html

I accidently flagged him. Maybe my subconscious made my fingers do it. Only 1 beer so far that is not the reason.
 

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Sure there is - join a boat forum ! :lol_hitti

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Went to a sale today and was happy to find this Wilton on the bench where it looked as it sat there for decades since its last use. I bought a bunch of stuff and asked if he would do $50 on the vise and it was a go. Its and older one with a date of 11-46 and has 4 1/2" jaws. She has a few dings here and there but I am betting under the grime and what looks like house paint in areas she will clean up nicely.

Thanks for all the good pictures added it to the Bullet date thread.
 

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I've made a promise to myself, no more hobbies or collections of heavy things. Cars, anvils, vises, books, etc. I once had a gun magazine collection that numbered over 3600 issues....

I considered not collecting anything, it was the worst five minutes of my life.

Nuts
 
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Vintage: i just grabbed the mail and found a nice surprise in an envelope from my young Canadian friend. anybody that thinks the younger generation doesn't have any skills take a gander at this little gem. i showed it to my bride and i'll be lucky to have visiting privileges of this fine tool now. anybody else agree? Thank you very much and i wasn't expecting that.



Jeremy: you've put together maybe the nicest full size Walker turner i know of now and happy to know it has a great home with a skilled user. Check out Jeremy's Hodgepodge garage thread in the garage gallery if you want to see a work bench for the ages to sit next to this DP. you might also say how you found all the missing parts to get the Walker Turner and his XY vise to where it is today. quite a journey that is for sure.



Chips and Smitty show sounds like fun to me. where do i buy a ticket??


That's a very impressive knife!

Edit: great work vintagenut!
 

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The one warning I'll make if it's going to live in the kitchen is that it is a carbon steel blade, so it will rust if left wet. Hand wash only, and towel dry right away. It will patina over time, but that's part of the character. That particular knife is W2 from an old canadian made black Diamond mill file. Got a pile of old files from my metal shop teacher. Half of them were still good, so I put them aside to use. The rest became knives

you can never have too many tools
 

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Junebuggy, its funny you say that, because apart from a few youtube videos, some books, and reading lots of knifemaking forums, I figured it out for myself. I have actually never worked with another knifemaker. I read how to do it all in theory, then just figured it out in practice. Do all my grinding freehand, no jigs or work rest. I'm pretty happy with how I have progressed over the last couple years!

you can never have too many tools
 

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TOP: nice story about selling vises at work just randomly like that. i bet they will all be smiling on their ways home tonight. the hard part for us when sizing your 5197 was the wood in the background that you apparently now own too.

i hope you left that gal's home smiling and hope she was too.

congrats

DRIVES Oh yeah I was happy. She was also. She already had her drink on, a couple of complements towards her turned her to putty.
 

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Junebuggy, its funny you say that, because apart from a few youtube videos, some books, and reading lots of knifemaking forums, I figured it out for myself. I have actually never worked with another knifemaker. I read how to do it all in theory, then just figured it out in practice. Do all my grinding freehand, no jigs or work rest. I'm pretty happy with how I have progressed over the last couple years!

you can never have too many tools


Yup...that's how I did it too...I still sit in front of my grinder with a few wood paint sticks to "settle in" on my bench to get comfortable and practice my grinds before I grab a piece of Damascus. Too much time in making that stuff to not get it right the first time. I have gone thru a dump truck load of steel to get to the point of figuring out what I need to know on a lot of projects over the years! :D
 

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Yup...that's how I did it too...I still sit in front of my grinder with a few wood paint sticks to "settle in" on my bench to get comfortable and practice my grinds before I grab a piece of Damascus. Too much time in making that stuff to not get it right the first time. I have gone thru a dump truck load of steel to get to the point of figuring out what I need to know on a lot of projects over the years! :D
I have probably had 1 or 2 dozen hit the scrap pile before they even got to heat treating. Probably another dozen or so hit the scrap pile after final grinding. And probably 6-8 more I finished that I wasn't happy with. Learned with each one though! I actually still have one of my first knives. I'm not at all happy with it, but it shows how far I have came in the last 2-3 years!

you can never have too many tools
 

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Has anybody ever seen one of these?
Seller says no markings except for the number 4 and a smaller number 86
I would assume 4 inch jaws and a stated 50 pounds of weight.
Blacksmith?
 

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...gj regular kevin scott...his vise jaws are the best around...anything he sells you, will be first class merchandise, and worth what he charges...nice fellow, too...

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Here is some special order vise **** for the P98 from the Rev KMScott. It has been an AMAZING process to work with him on this project and the value is absolutely incredible.

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TOP: those nervous drives going to pick something up you hope is in great shape and the smiling all the way home if it works out makes the hunting for these old tools worth living. congrats

Vintage: thanks again and also for the tips on using and cleaning and i'll pass that on.

JB: so you made your own Damascus or you worked on it more once you received some. forgive me because i'm just learning, but isn't that one of the best steels for knives just a bit shy of maybe the Samurai sword maker's steel? maybe you should start another thread or add it to your knife maker's thread about all the different types of steel. i know i'd like to learn that if you have time to teach us.

Shift: it looks like the blacksmith clamp on vise i posted i think last week, but not sure how that one would mount to a bench or stump.

ALL: so this Reed 1C isn't in my hands yet, but one of my GJ friends found it for me and now i have the 1C, 2C and 4C so getting closer and maybe all will be users soon.

it's missing a swivel pin nut, but other than that i think it looks pretty nice. feel free to let me know if you see something I (we) missed since the pictures are so awesome.
 

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TJ: if Kevin gets tired of making vise parts it looks like he could make wedding bands. that stuff is great and any more pictures you want to post of your Prentiss #98 is ok by me. also are you going to paint it florescent green or maybe tone it down with a little BLO??
 

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Drives : That's exactly what I was wondering! And why have 2 main screws? Some wooden clamps have two screws to clamp up tapers for gluing but what is going on with this guy?
 
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Drives, Damascus being superior is really an urban legend. Its a holdover from the days when steel was inconsistent and layering different steels was the only way you could make something tough yet hold an edge. With today's steels, Damascus is only cosmetic, there really aren't any performance benefits. In fact due to all the forge welding involved, it's likely not as good from a performance standpoint as say O1 or A2 like I use. That said the talent it takes to make Damascus like that, and how amazing it can look more than makes up for it. And properly done it's most likely just as good a blade as the tool steel I use, while looking far more interesting. It's something I'd really like to get into someday, although I'm going to wait until I have the rest of it mastered, so I don't spend a ton of time making a piece of Damascus, only to screw up the grinding

you can never have too many tools
 

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Drives : That's exactly what I was wondering! And why have 2 main screws? Some wooden clamps have two screws to clamp up tapers for gluing but what is going on with this guy?
To me that looks like it should have been a chain vice and half the parts are missing.
 

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Just got back home from making probably my best vise buy ever. Caught it on CL about 45 minutes after it was posted, and it was only a half hour away. A Wilton 400S that's a little dirty, but works like new. Oh yeah $50.00
 

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