What is this Craftsman product??
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ekegelmann
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I'm looking to buy it but wondering what this is so I can make offer. The guy selling it doesn't know. Was his grandfathers
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twertsy
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Small compressor
mtwaterguy
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So you don't know what it is, don't know what it does and you don't know what it's worth. You still want to buy it...... man YOU REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM
jakemac
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ekegelmann
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Yea it's cool looking. Sorry, I don't think I'd go around saying you have a problem. I have a hobby. Old tools etc. SK proto and craftsman pretty 1950. I personally haven't seen this before. So is asking an issue? Or problem. Wtf?
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My Old Tools
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It's a pump but I'm not prepared to say whether it is pressure or vacuum.
Rileysan
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Just a little fun/teasing! I think most of us would react the same way when finding something new and cool - What is it, can I use it, will it fit, and can I afford it?!?
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ritestuff
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Just a little helpful advice. If you are gonna be buying and flipping tools for a profit, you probably should take some time to do research and learn some of this stuff on your own. There will be plenty of times where you will run into possible profitable "scores" and you won't have the luxury of relying on the guys at GJ to tell you what stuff is and what it's worth. Just an observation after reading most of your posts which always contain the word "value?".
crguy
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You have to learn to do your own research and make up your mind on your own. When you're at a sale somewhere you can't run back to the forum to ask basic questions before you buy.
The thread on the Stanley #8 was a good example of how to beat something to death without getting a definitive answer - which is impossible anyway. There are no hard & fast values for any old tools.
The thread on the Stanley #8 was a good example of how to beat something to death without getting a definitive answer - which is impossible anyway. There are no hard & fast values for any old tools.
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ekegelmann
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I usually 99% of the time keep things I find. The reason I ask about value is to teach my son about this stuff.
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ekegelmann
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Do you feel this compressor etc has been restored or repainted? Or is this original colors
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Rileysan
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Taking a closer look, I would have to say that this is garage art. The base has a proper label at the right, but the Craftsman logo is in an odd spot and is ****-eyed. The compressor appears to be incomplete and is mounted over the top of some other mounting holes that do not line up with it. I don't have a clue what the "bottle" on the right is ...
Brian
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Stuart in MN
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I looked through some Craftsman tool catalogs here: http://www.blackburntools.com/articles/rose-tools-catalog-archives/sears/index.html and wasn't able to find anything quite like that. I suspect the four cylinder pump (it's not a motor) was added to the base, all of the ones I saw were single cylinder.
whatever it is, it's cool and would be sitting in my shop on a shelf if I came across it.
there is an id plate on the right, have you searched the part # to see what the base is for (assuming it is not original to that setup).
edit: there are some very similar on ebay, and other vintage sprayit's with handles like that as well. check the link, looks like a 4 cyl with the vertical piece (tank?) as well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Air-Compressor-With-Craftsman-motor-Runs-Great-/252189964707
there is an id plate on the right, have you searched the part # to see what the base is for (assuming it is not original to that setup).
edit: there are some very similar on ebay, and other vintage sprayit's with handles like that as well. check the link, looks like a 4 cyl with the vertical piece (tank?) as well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Air-Compressor-With-Craftsman-motor-Runs-Great-/252189964707
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ekegelmann
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I think I'll get it for sh#ts and giggles. It looks cool and does make great industrial art.
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ekegelmann
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I'll add more photos when I grab it tomorrow.
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Rileysan
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Now that you mention it ...
The paint sprayer in the bobvilla link is more complete that the item the OP posted. http://www.bobvila.com/posts/42433-very-old-craftsman-paint-sprayer?page=1#.VroeZfkrKUk
I would venture to say that the compressor is not attached and the slotted holes in the base (under the compressor) are actually mounting holes for the motor. Since it's incomplete, it's still garage art
Brian
originally no, cuz he was a hack, but I just looked at it and it is identical to the one I posted on Ebay...think someone just moved around the pump as it's not oriented correctly.
crguy
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Since it's incomplete, it's still garage art
Brian
Not even good garage art in my opinion. Just a cobbled up "artsy" thing.
There are much better things for garage art.
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bubinga
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IDK, but It's Cool though.....lol
Unfortunately you are also teaching your son to rely on others for help what seems to be the vast majority of the time. Not a good idea IMHO, but different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Your constant posting of separate thread after thread is just an exemplification of your selfish, figure this out for me, ways.
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ekegelmann
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Um really? I spend all kinds of time doing research and personally turning to "experts" is usually a good idea. Such as ask your teacher or go ask mom, she's good at hair etc. Isn't learning things or asking questions good? **** if it wasn't for questions would their be forums? It's called tool discussion. However I guess it's bad to ask questions. Just a bunch of know it alls going back n forth with their amazing knowledge and unwillingness to share information. Yay!
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Fretters
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Obviously a small, portable compressor unit, as evident by the carry handle on the cooler. Cute, but worth wise, only you can gauge what you're willing to pay for it. I quite like it.
On a related note, I'd personally say that it's a bad move becoming pissy with people you keep asking advice of. If you don't like some answers, just ignore them, but to suggest you've received an unwillingness to share information/knowledge/experience is somewhat insulting to those who have helped you thus far, and it appears many have in your recent threads.
Might one suggest that you alter the way you go about things slightly? The way you've been posting threads recently does give the impression you're a seller using the site as a free appraisal service. Obviously that's not the case, judging from what you say, but participating more in the forum in general may have made that more evident. Just a suggestion mind.
On a related note, I'd personally say that it's a bad move becoming pissy with people you keep asking advice of. If you don't like some answers, just ignore them, but to suggest you've received an unwillingness to share information/knowledge/experience is somewhat insulting to those who have helped you thus far, and it appears many have in your recent threads.
Might one suggest that you alter the way you go about things slightly? The way you've been posting threads recently does give the impression you're a seller using the site as a free appraisal service. Obviously that's not the case, judging from what you say, but participating more in the forum in general may have made that more evident. Just a suggestion mind.
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ekegelmann
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Wait a second, I'm becoming "pissy" because I thought this is supposed to be a place to ask questions. Then I ask a question many from people of whom I presume know what they are talking about and get treated like I'm annoying. How is that? Are questions not supposed to be asked? Am I doing something wrong? And please tell me if I am. If this is a forum only for experts maybe I'm in the wrong place. I'm here because I love vintage tools and want to learn things.
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McBrownie
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ekegelmann,
Totally agree. ZK was deep in left field with that comment. Keep up the good work finding old tools.
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ekegelmann
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And I do sell things I do not like. However 98% of things I ask about I keep unless it's something that people would restore and save. I ask about prices etc to tell my son to try to get him interested in different more constructive things. Sometimes mentioning value on these things helps, plus having so many it's good to know for various reasons....and your correct if something happened and there was an emergency and I needed money it is a good idea to know what one might have. I personally cannot work at this time due to being handicapped , so I have a lot of time on my hands for this hobby. I'm sorry for getting irritated.
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Fretters
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I'm merely saying to calm down. As I say, the way you've come across could be misconstrued. You may have just got a few peoples backs up unintentionally. That's life. Ignore what isn't useful and heed what is useful, but suggesting in a roundabout manner people are unhelpful when you've had help from some is like a slap with a wet kipper for those who have helped you. Some comments made were uncalled for, but there's no reason to respond in like. Just ask away and sort through the useful responses, and smile and ignore with the rest.
Anyhows, getting back to the original point of the post, are you going to get the compressor?
p.s: Photo's of some of your collection are also a good way to go. It's like dangling a sparklie thing in front of a goldfish, especially on here.
Edit: You do also know there's an ignore list you can add members to if anyone really gets on your ****?
Personally, I never use it. Much prefer to sift through the good and bad stuff manually. Saying that though, I honestly think that if a certain member once more suggests turning another perfectly functional machine into some arty farty like piece, that list may get its first entry.
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Fretters
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Getting back on track, any specific area of vintage machinery you tend to have a main interest in, or is it just vintage equipment in general?
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ekegelmann
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I like hand tools the most. Vintage SK, Proto etc.... not usually into electric or motor machines but this caught my eye. The guy selling it is asking me to name my price, but I don't like to lowball, so that's why I posted this etc. I think it's neat looking and didn't know if it was an original piece or?
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Fretters
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Bar the fact that's missing the motor and pipework, it looks decent enough to me. The main consideration would be as to whether the compressor turns or whether it's seized. With regard to price, either throw a lowball offer or just ask what he wants for it. Two possible outcomes of that are that:
1) The seller will ignore you.
2) He'll come back with a price which will at least then give you an indication of what type of money he's after. As soon as you know that figure, you have something to work from and haggle on, if you decide to pursue it.
End of the day, if you don't get this one, another will turn up at some point. Collecting old equipment is a patience game more than anything else, and you will miss as many or more than you get.
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turbowoodworker
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So you don't know what it is, don't know what it does and you don't know what it's worth. You still want to buy it...... man YOU REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM
Is this not the GJ mantra? A lot of us have come to live by it!
r_olson_06
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I think if a thread was created as discussed it would help with the process. This has been stated several time before and I have no problem helping when I know the answer. But if suggestions are made to "clean" up the forum to keep like topics together. If you could help by following the suggestions it would help. Could you give it a try?
On the topic of the craftsman item. I am completely clueless never seen one.
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On the topic of the craftsman item. I am completely clueless never seen one.
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taumac
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I believe what you have there is a re-branded Honda engine.
LMFAO!!!
Well as the eBay link showed above comparing it to your pics its 2/3 complete. You might be able to find a period motor to make it a complete unit. It's a cool piece and could be a novelty piece of can complete it and get it working. Now for price. I always say that tools increase or decease in price depending on demand and desire. In the end something only worth what someone is willing to pay for something to a certain degree.
four.cycle
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^ this. pretty much my initial impression from the first post of yours I read here.
but enough of that already.
if I saw that in an antique shop, I'd think "oooo what a cool old gizmo" and maybe offer them about $20-$25, which is the most I've ever paid for weird old pieces of machinery about which I had no clue.
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