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RHJO51

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Hello all, I recently picked up a older Wards Riverside air compressor. It's a small one but very cool. It's a 1 HP, twin cylinder, on a 12 gal tank. I've not seen any like this one. The model # is a FCI-756557C. I'm trying to locate a owners manual and find out who originally manufactured the compressor. I'm also trying to find out what kind of pressure relief system it has - how is pressure relieved when the compressor needs to kick back in?

I appreciate any information on this compressor. Thank you - Jim
 

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redmondjp

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Hello all, I recently picked up a older Wards Riverside air compressor. It's a small one but very cool. It's a 1 HP, twin cylinder, on a 12 gal tank. I've not seen any like this one. The model # is a FCI-756557C. I'm trying to locate a owners manual and find out who originally manufactured the compressor. I'm also trying to find out what kind of pressure relief system it has - how is pressure relieved when the compressor needs to kick back in?

I appreciate any information on this compressor. Thank you - Jim

It was made by Champion and it's a great little unit. My friend recently bought one just like it. The pea-green paint is a dead giveaway as well - that was Champion's old paint color. I'll check with my friend and see if he can get a model number off of his. Grainger also sold a lot of these pumps under their "Dayton" or "Speedaire" brand names, and there is a single-cylinder variant of it as well.

Here is the pump (they don't make this exact same model any longer) that Grainger sold as a replacement part:

http://www.grainger.com/product/CHAMPION-Air-Compressor-Pump-2Z050

Maybe somebody else can chime in with the Champion model number for your pump - [edit] I'm thinking after doing some more checking that this was a model AV1, BV1, CV1 pump:

http://www.needanownersmanual.com/product_info.php?products_id=690

Here is the modern-day successor to your pump (note the exact same crankcase bearing side cover):

http://www.grainger.com/product/CHAMPION-Air-Compressor-Pump-5FTU2

Here's another thread about the same compressor pump:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146088

This site has a lot of repair parts for your pump (that I can identify by sight) - you might call them if you need anything:

https://www.factoryaircompressorpar...ampion-compressor-repair-parts/?orderby=price


As to the unloader on yours, I believe it has an orifice in the check valve fitting right at the tank, on the upstream side of the valve. It leaks a tiny bit of air while the pump is running, but then allows residual pressure to dissipate once it turns off. Crude, simple, no moving parts, inexpensive, but effective!
 
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Wondering if anyone has information on the following military compressor. I have no idea how old it is. Here's what I know about it:

4310-01-598-4299
00NS2:KTC S0157*@#$
Compressor air portable 30g 5hp 175psi max

NSN Description
4310-01-598-4299 COMPRESSOR,RECIPROCATING

Part Number Company CAGE
KTC 0157 KIPPER TOOL COMPANY 00NS2
KTC-S0157 KIPPER TOOL COMPANY 00NS2

Name
PART NAME ASSIGNED BY CONTROLLING AGENCY COMPRESSOR AIR PORTBL 30G 5HP 175PSI MAX

PMIC Critical ADPE ESDC HMIC DEMIL SA SOS AAC QUP UI PRICE SIC CIIC RepCode MgmtCntrl PhraseData
A X 0 A N A DS SMS Z 1 EA 2782.95 0 U N -------
A X 0 A N A DA SMS Z 1 EA 2782.95 0 U Z J2200X-

COMPRESSOR,RECIPROC: NO DATA IS AVAILABLE. THE ALTERNATE OFFEROR IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A COMPLETE DATA PACKAGE INCLUDING DATA FOR THE APPROVED AND ALTERNATE PART FOR EVALUATION. THE ORIGIN INSPECTION REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN REEVALUATED AND CHANGED TO DESTINATION
Cage# 00NS2 and PartNumber# KTC-S0157
 

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Wondering if anyone has information on the following military compressor. I have no idea how old it is. Here's what I know about it:

4310-01-598-4299
00NS2:KTC S0157*@#$
Compressor air portable 30g 5hp 175psi max

NSN Description
4310-01-598-4299 COMPRESSOR,RECIPROCATING

Part Number Company CAGE
KTC 0157 KIPPER TOOL COMPANY 00NS2
KTC-S0157 KIPPER TOOL COMPANY 00NS2

Name
PART NAME ASSIGNED BY CONTROLLING AGENCY COMPRESSOR AIR PORTBL 30G 5HP 175PSI MAX

PMIC Critical ADPE ESDC HMIC DEMIL SA SOS AAC QUP UI PRICE SIC CIIC RepCode MgmtCntrl PhraseData
A X 0 A N A DS SMS Z 1 EA 2782.95 0 U N -------
A X 0 A N A DA SMS Z 1 EA 2782.95 0 U Z J2200X-

COMPRESSOR,RECIPROC: NO DATA IS AVAILABLE. THE ALTERNATE OFFEROR IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A COMPLETE DATA PACKAGE INCLUDING DATA FOR THE APPROVED AND ALTERNATE PART FOR EVALUATION. THE ORIGIN INSPECTION REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN REEVALUATED AND CHANGED TO DESTINATION
Cage# 00NS2 and PartNumber# KTC-S0157

Have you tried contacting Kipper Tool Company and giving them the National Stock Number (NSN)? That's where I would start.

www.kippertool.com

I'm 99% sure that Kipper Tools didn't make that compressor - they got a military contract to supply it, and then went out to the marketplace to see which compressor manufacturer could meet the requirements at the lowest cost and supplied them to the government.

From the sounds of it, any compressor that meets the requirements of the NSN could be utilized. That gives the government maximum flexibility in their purchasing decisions. If that is the case, what more do you want to learn about the compressor?
 

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Hello Redmondjp, many thanks for the reply and information - very helpful! I've now got something to go on. I'll contact Champion to see if I can get a owners manual. Your info on the unloader was interesting, I noticed I had a air leak on that check valve fitting - I thought the pin hole was a defect! Good to know. This compressor has a original pea green regulator that's not working, it's just not adjusting when the knob it turned. I took it apart and it's really simple but still not working. Any thoughts? Thanks again. - Jim
 

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Starting to put mine back together. Got the crank bearings and races ready to go and rebuild kit is on order so it should be done sone hopefully.

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Its darker than the original blue which I was able to find under another layer of paint under some dirt and grime. Thought I was going to be able to clean it up but it was pretty far gone in some places, so just stripped it all down.

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Here's the only shot I have of my compressor. Lately it's been giving me a bit of trouble though, wondering if anyone could help me find a manual for it. Google hasn't been much help.

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SargeUSMC

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Rand 4000 RS20E20AZ

Howdy.

I've got this old compressor here that will not hold air. That is to say, when I turn it off, the air bleeds out from the pressure switch right there. Otherwise, it works fine.

Anyone know if there's a way to fix that? I don't think I'll be able to find parts for the thing.....it's as old as the hills.

Semper Fi
 

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Here are two plates from the backs of nearly identical model Sears air compressors.

Both compressors are 2-hp 230V models.

Gold = 1976 model and 125psi max (TEMP. 650)

Red (formerly green) = 1973 model and 150psi max (TEMP. 250)

The only difference in the tags other than the year is the TEMP.

Why the big difference in the temp?

Does anybody know what these mean...

TEMP. ?
SH. .095 ?
HD. .094 ?
RAD. E ?

Don't know about temp and rad, but SH refers to Shell (cylinder) and HD refers to Head (domed ends) of the tank and the numbers are in thousands of an inch thickness.

That being said, with thin walls like that its doesn't take much rust to render them useless. You'd be horrified to see how it looks like inside after 40 years, just got an inspection camera and had a look in my old tank and it's truly frightening. The 20 year old one that sounds clear like a bell when I hit it also shows some significant internal rust...

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This is a compressor head unit that I really ought get round to sorting, sometime soon. Must've been sat here knocking on four or five years now. :D

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It's around 2' tall, if I recall correctly offhand.
 

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This is a 1958 Kellogg compressor I just picked up.The compressor was rebuilt about 4 years ago and a new industrial 2hp motor was put on it.Plan on using it in my wood shop.Hope to repaint it back to original color and decals replaced on it.This unit is made by the Brakeman Shoe Company.It is a beast and ways a lot.The tank itself is little over 200 pounds the guy I bought it from also made the tooling to remove the valves.60 gallon tank.
 

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hello everone newbe here I have a Kellogg American 3 hp compressor an 5hp motor 1725 it can be switch from 220 to110 just got to find out don't have 220 available looks to be a site glad I found it!
 

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hello everone newbe here I have a Kellogg American 3 hp compressor an 5hp motor 1725 it can be switch from 220 to110 just got to find out don't have 220 available looks to be a site glad I found it!
Welcome to the site! I would kindly suggest that you add some punctuation to your posts in order to make them more readable.

You appear to have some conflicting information in your post - are you saying that your kellog pump is rated for a 3HP motor, but that you have a 5HP motor available?

Can you post some pictures of both your compressor nameplate (if it has one) and of the motor? Or give us the information off of them? That would give us a start on answering your questions.

Based upon what you have provided so far, I would say that it is not likely that you are going to be able to operate that motor on a 120VAC circuit. Do you have a dryer receptacle available? That will typically be a 240V 30A circuit and will run most 5HP compressors.
 

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Hey guy's, I'm looking for some information on my Brunner 30fh8 air compressor. Would like to know the spec's, if possible. Has a five horsepower single phase motor. From what I was told, it has been untouched. Has great performance. Have powered my old shop, and I am placing it in my new shop. Just wanted to know a little more about this unit.
 

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Looking at a vintage compressor on CL. It is listed as a 5HP 2 stage 80 gal Buckeye Boiler model. Not hooked up and no way to test. I went and saw it and it appears to be a circa mid 80's. Flywheel spun easily by hand and no bad sounds. Motor has a "Peerless" tag. Surface rust on inside of tank. Guy wants 6 bills. Said it has sat since about 2000. Ran a 2 man body shop with it in the 90's.
Think its worth it if it doesn't need anything major? Can anybody tell me about what pump it may be?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/amhbhfm9uwvi7xj/00I0I_hMH01APYCLI_600x450.jpg?dl=0
 
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I have seen that compressor pump before but I can't place it now exactly - it is Italian made I think (possibly imported by ABAC/American IMC) and looks very similar to a T29 - but it's not a T29 because it doesn't have that very distinctive inverted triangle crankcase vent on the end of the crankcase.

"Buckeye Boiler" is not the model - that is the tank manufacturer, which usually has nothing to do with who actually assembled the compressor. What is the manufacturing date stamped on that plate?

$600 for a compressor of that vintage, that's been sitting for 15 years, with a tank of unknown condition, that you can't even run to test? That's crazy talk, unless it was something like a mint-condition Quincy, Champion, or Saylor-Beall. I don't even know if you can get parts for that pump any longer.

Does it have a 3-phase motor or a single phase? 3 phase would make it worth less (to most of us w/o 3 phase power at our home shops).
 
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Thanks for the reply. Seemed high to be too.
It is single phase. There is a motor plate that says Peerless as the motor manufacturer. No other plates in it other than Buckeye Boiler on the tank. Buckeye Boiler is actually here in town. It is as you say, they make pressure vessels. That's it.
I'll pass on it. Too much risk and work to move it. If either the pump of the motor was shot the deal would be sour. Wish I knew someone with a big enough gas generator I could hook up to it to fire if up.
Thanks again.


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Here is a compressor that I pulled out of a field of old iron stuff
I have no idea what brand it is or how old but the drive wheel screams old to me

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I have a 1947 air compressor that the motor gave out on. The motor is a 3hs single phase 115/230V motor 1750 rpm.
The tank is a 60 gal tank. It is where the 1947 date comes from.
Link to the pics on the unit. http://s19.photobucket.com/user/mobe_45/library/vintage compressor
My question for someone with more knowledge than me on this is:
Can I put a 1 or 2 hs motor on the unit and still have it generate enough power to fill the tank?
 

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You can if you use a smaller pulley on the motor proportional to the change in horsepower. It will turn slower and take longer to come up to pressure but will otherwise be OK.
 

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I have a 1947 air compressor that the motor gave out on. The motor is a 3hs single phase 115/230V motor 1750 rpm.
The tank is a 60 gal tank. It is where the 1947 date comes from.
Link to the pics on the unit. http://s19.photobucket.com/user/mobe_45/library/vintage compressor
My question for someone with more knowledge than me on this is:
Can I put a 1 or 2 hs motor on the unit and still have it generate enough power to fill the tank?

Did you buy that from a auto repair shop in Perkasie? Looks just like the one I listed on CL for him.
 

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Anyone know anything about my vintage compressor that was left behind by the previous owners of my house?

It has a Montgomery Ward tag on it. The motor is a 1 hp Kingston-Conley which looks to be from somewhere between 1936-1945, and the tank is stamped John Wood company 1947. Not sure if either is original equipment. The compressor is strangely sterile though. It runs fine and doesn't appear to need any repair, but I'd just like to know more about it. Who made it?

It takes about an hour to fill up from 0 to 150 psi, but is very quiet. I was pretty excited that it was left behind for me. I had to replace the pressure switch, but so far nothing else. Here's a few pics.

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I recently aquire an old, HUGE westing house air brake co. Air compressor that was used as an air circuit breaker system. I'm having a very hard time getting any info on this, since it's old. The tank says Westinghouse air brake co, 300 lbs max, etc... and dated 1970?...the motor is a Westinghouse 2hp singlee phase 220, and the compressor head looks like a typical 2 stage Westing house compressor, but the I'd tag on the side says AirComp model 100W8 ....... I can't find ANYTHING by the model number, and the setup looks just like all the rest of the old Westinghouse compressor heads? Any help and info would be great!!!!
Fyi, I think this things sitting on a 100, or 120 gallon tank, because it's HUGE!!!
It's almost double the size of my Husky 60 gal tank!, and overall is @ 81" tall!
Also I included two pics of the "circuit breaker contraption" that was bolted to the side.. all brass, and heavy!!!
 

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A few more px, to show the size of this thing!

Any info tips,or tricks for maint., repair, set-up, etc..y'all have to help me, will be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!! Anyone have any digital manuals?
 

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1930-1932 Champion Pneumatic Machinery, Model X-4, that was my Grandfathers. It runs great and I am refurbishing it. The pulley is not original....the search continues!
 

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I posted this in the main forum, but was directed here. Anyone have any information on this compressor??

I'm having difficulties finding out any info, and wondering if it is worth acquiring. Runs fine. Tank is from the 20s and the motor is from Leland Motors.

Here are some pics:

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Thanks in advance!
 

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Not terribly old but I bought this little 1/2 HP Smith cast iron pump unit back around 1980. I had just started work as an Air compressor/pneumatics mechanic. I bought it for airbrushing graphics/artwork on motorcycle tanks/fenders. Its still all original including the belt and runs perfect.
 

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Not terribly old but I bought this little 1/2 HP Smith cast iron pump unit back around 1980. I had just started work as an Air compressor/pneumatics mechanic. I bought it for airbrushing graphics/artwork on motorcycle tanks/fenders. Its still all original including the belt and runs perfect.

Here's a pic of the compressor
 

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fbpd227

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Ok, so now I'm deeper into my project of "converting " my old WABCO circuit breaker into a traditional shop compressor. ........ here's my sticking point.....
Need help!
First option for me was to buy a 2 1/4" drill bit- figure out how to adapt it to a hand dtill, then dtill out the THICK welded In plate on the side of the tank, then run my 2"NPT tap in, and , WALAH!!! Screw in my 2" x 3/4" bu g adaptor!!! Sounds easy, but NOT!!!!
Ono my Second option....
The air circuit breaker had this huge , and heavy, brass bolt on adaptor, that when u bolted leaves me a 2 bolt flange to the side of the tank, and male threaded end, which would need adapting.... BUT! here lies the issue........
The "pipe" is 3.5" diameter on the threads, at 14 TPI, which is NOT COMMON, and I can't even find a reducer for it to me a 2" NPT x 3/4" bung!
Any and all help would be AWESOME! !!!
I'm stuck with where to go.......... not really wanting to weld onto the tank, as I like the "threaded" option for future u see. .....
And don't trust any welders around me to be able 5o safely weld it in, without making a bomb in my garage......
If I could just identify WHAT thread pipe reducer I need, I'd be set, but 6 hours of research led me know where!!! It's the 14 TPI, that throws everything off!!!!
Standard pipe being 8 TPI...... PLEASE HELP!!!
do you think I could safely re-thread the 3" 14TPI to 3" npt 8 TPI, with alt of thread tape, and o ly running g 150 psi, versus the 300 psi the sir-break tank is rated for, or would "re-tapping" brass threads just be an invite for trouble!?!?!
 

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Hi,

I've had this for nearly two years. Just now getting around to restoring it. Identifying this pump has been a challenge. It seems to be an older Champion. I would say possibly a model RE-10. If you look at the crankcase, the oil filler is in an odd location and not indicative of most Champion pumps. It didn't come with a motor and the tank is, well, it's an old tank made in San Francisco in 1947 with what has got to be 1/4" steel. I'd snap a pic of the brass nameplate (at least I think it's brass, it too is 1/4" thick) but it's currently taped up as I am in the middle of priming.

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I really believe it's a Champion pump, I just have not seen any similar pictures online (again, the oil filler is in the strangest place). I have taken the thing apart and there are beautiful shiny pistons inside, in like-new condition. Just trying to confirm the actual model number. I also have a call in with Gardner-Denver/Champion, we'll see if they can help.

I would love to know the vintage of this pump. I have one similar without the unloader to the HP exhaust manifold. It measures out to a 3" stroke but only pumps in 3.7-5 CFM range at 700 RPM. I got it with an old GE Tri-Clad motor & on a tank dated 1957. The only RE-4/RE-7/RE-10 literature I found indicates it should have a 16"-18" flywheel but mine is smaller, like yours. The crankcase/block is aluminum with steel covers. Oil fill location is just the same as this.
 
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