The VISES of Garage Journal

[CrotalusAtrox]

Not sure what model but looks like there is weld bead on the dynamic jaw

 

[rusty65]

You mean on the jaw insert?

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[Tomthumb717]

Crotalus - Yes, i was curious what that was too.

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Rusty I was referring to the Parker that Tomthumb posted.

 

[drivesitfar]

TT: while Parker is down on my list of favorites they are well made and that would be a very strange place for a break. my guess is that it's not a weld and some sort of paint or other material that landed there. as always a personal inspection is the best and if you like it i'd carry it out in two pieces and while i have the dynamic out check it out better.

you've been paying attention cause i think the double screw mounts start at the 6 inchers and the one i had that was a non swivel weigh about 130 pounds so guessing that one is close to 150. if that issue is not a weld that would be a keeper cause most of it looks great.

good luck

 

[Tomthumb717]

Drives - Thanks for the insight. I will investigate it thoroughly before it goes up for auction.

 

[zoomieport]

Agreed on that one not going to lie I found the auction when it was first listed and was hoping to win it but whoever was at the top really wanted it.

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I don't think they overpaid, I think I underbid, LOL!

 

[zoomieport]

I did make a deal on a cool one today, not trying to be a tease, detail soon to follow.
Take care!
ZOOM

 

[va.grouseman]

Wasn't me.---I sniped at $287.53 and it went by me so fast, my bid wasn't even mentioned.

 

[FMC1959]

Looking for help to try to identify the Parker vise. I assume it is either a 6" or larger vise due to the the two screws holding the retaining collar in place. What is puzzling to me is the placement of or lack of centering of the U.S.A. Every one i have seen the U.S.A is directly centered beneath the C.T. I do not have a picture of the reverse side that would denote what model it is. Any help would be appreciated.

The rear part of the static tells you it is an Eclipse (not a Superior which would be an "x" numbered series for the older....29x, 49x for stationary, 229x, 249x for swivel AND an 800 numbered for more recent stationary, and 820's for swivel). The cylander lead screw versus a meatball means it is more recent, maybe 1930's (not a 100/200 Eclipse). It has a swivel base so it is a 970 series, and as you said 2 screws on the collar, probably a 976. Measure the jaw and it will confirm if it is a 976.

 

[drivesitfar]

FMC: thanks for the 411. shouldn't that Parker also have 976 on the other side that we can't see in the picture? or a different # if its not a 6 incher or an older model?

 

[zoomieport]

Wasn't me.---I sniped at $287.53 and it went by me so fast, my bid wasn't even mentioned.

DANG! I was hoping it was you! Now I am really bummed that one of us didn't get it!
Somebody better fess up, LOL!
I had to sit down for dinner, something a 45 YO bachelor rarely has to do (lol, unless the pizza kid tells me to settle down!), so I went $228.88 about :15 left, thinking nobody was that (blanking) crazy... NOT EVEN CLOSE!

I've got a rare one in "my hip" for you, VA, take care!
ZOOM

PS. I don't think you are crazy, I am pissed I didn't bid more...

 

[PghJKB]

Was it one of you guys who got the Welch jewelers vise on Ebay just now? Pretty cool pivoting mount, don't think I've seen one like it before. http://www.ebay.com/itm/11222294990...IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649&autorefresh=true
Had a snipe bid locked and loaded with about 8 minutes left, it was about $42 or $43 at the time, but was blown out of the water way before the end.

It is rare when I get my *** whipped on an auction, well done boys!!!

Agreed on that one not going to lie I found the auction when it was first listed and was hoping to win it but whoever was at the top really wanted it.

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I don't think they overpaid, I think I underbid, LOL!

Wasn't me.---I sniped at $287.53 and it went by me so fast, my bid wasn't even mentioned.

DANG! I was hoping it was you! Now I am really bummed that one of us didn't get it!
Somebody better fess up, LOL!
I had to sit down for dinner, something a 45 YO bachelor rarely has to do (lol, unless the pizza kid tells me to settle down!), so I went $228.88 about :15 left, thinking nobody was that (blanking) crazy... NOT EVEN CLOSE!

I've got a rare one in "my hip" for you, VA, take care!
ZOOM

PS. I don't think you are crazy, I am pissed I didn't bid more...

Et al:
That is the second Ek patent vise that I owned for a few fractions of a second on EvilPrey.

As for the EK patent; here is the link to USPTO:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...6S1=0807445.PN.%26OS=pn/807445%26RS=PN/807445

BTW: The patent date in the listing was wrong.

Here is the patent image:

JKB

 

[GETRIDAONE]

New reborn baby Wilton Sixty Six years old and sporting a new set of dentures.

 

[454ragtop]

GETRIDAONE, looks great. What's under the power arm, almost looks like a fan clutch housing?

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Good Eye. It came off my 70 GTO convertible when I found a NOS heavy duty one. I cut the bearing off the front and cleaned it up a bit. I thought it looked good and is very stable, I removed the spring so there is a hole in center if you wanted to attach to a bench.

 

[drivesitfar]

GET: that's another piece of ART you put together. WELL DONE SIR!!

ALL: so i know some of you have SKILLS shining up old cast iron and steel so if you want to share your techniques and products and tools you use over on the new BUFFING 101 thread please do. it's for wood and steel so some of you might also pick up a few tips as you are teaching what you know. there are several good posts so far and i'm sure more to come so any and all of the members with a VICE FOR VISES (VICES) can join in.

cheers and have a great FRIDAY

 

[TonyCH]

Here is something different. I made this small wise myself when I was 15-16 years old in high school class. That was some 34 years ago. The first time I used metal lathe ever but I even made the handle, screw and the spring myself. The jaws are made of an old file. I first removed the hardening and then cut them into size and then rehardened them. Oh, and also the first time I ever used a welding machine or infact any other metal work machine.

Now when computers and CNC are the norm it looks a bit crude work but back then it felt like an achievement. I still have it in my office.

 

[drivesitfar]

Tony: sir you have OLD SCHOOL SKILLS. WELL DONE and thanks for sharing. cool design too!!

 

[Monte]

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very cool !!!

 

[va.grouseman]

Originally posted by Zoomieport.

I've got a rare one in "my hip" for you, VA, take care!
ZOOM
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Zoomie, don't make me beg.

Now if I told you I had a rare one in my hip, it would mean I just got out of surgery and my new hip was made of platinum.

 

[jimreed2160]

Tony--That vise was a very ambitious project for a teen and you hit it out of the ballpark! I sure hope you signed it. If I made something that nice I would put a big brass plaque on it.

 

[Outlawmws]

That is an awesome little shop made vise, and even more impressive that it was a High schooler!

 

[TonyCH]

Thanks guys. Yes, it was more demanding project than I had tried before - mostly woodworking and some blacksmith things before that. Well, I did make a surfboard when I was 13 or 14 years old. I still have that one too. We had a good teacher in high school who encouraged kids to try stuff they could have not dreamed making before. With the vise he told me what to do but I did it all by myself.

 

[zoomieport]

Zoom, would love a group shot of the Reed "C"s if you have one. Never even heard of a 402.5, how cool is that!! What is the weight on that one.

Oops, it was a typo, I fixes it to 403-1/2, sorry.
I will get a group shot when I head home.
They are hard to find in that configuration.
Thanks Jeff, take care!
Mike

TRIJEFF, per your request...

The C3 is in the process of being restored, I will paint it Hammered Brown, the 403-1/2's and the 404-1/2 will remain in original paint.

Take Care!
Merry Christmas!
ZOOM

 

[zoomieport]

Originally posted by Zoomieport.

I've got a rare one in "my hip" for you, VA, take care!
ZOOM
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Zoomie, don't make me beg.

Now if I told you I had a rare one in my hip, it would mean I just got out of surgery and my new hip was made of platinum.

HAHA!, I hear ya!

I am just replacing coronary arteries right now, the hips and the knees will be coming up soon enough I am afraid!

We got a fair amount of snow this morning, kind of put a wrinkle in my plans, I hope to have the vise and post up some pics Monday.

Take Care!
Merry Christmas!
ZOOM

 

[72highboy]

Hi all,
That double pinned Wilton C0 is still for sale I asked about the other day, but it seems the seller is finally seeing some value in it. Whats the most you'd pay for one? He's now asking 250..

I does look in good shape and has the swivel base.
Looking forward to opinions
Cheers

 

[Cope]

Spotted a vise listed on CL this morning and looked at only attached pic by seller and appeared to be a Columbian #504 with what looked like a small stand probably used with an adapter to slide vise into a trailer hitch.

Decided had time, so called and left msg.

Got call 1/2 hour later and picked it up within 45 mins.

This afternoon, took off the small stand and stripped off the paint on the vise.

4 inch jaws and max opening of 6 inches. Weight around 42 pounds. Columbian # 504 with fixed base and USA Made in Cleveland OH.

Nice vise. I have the 505.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

All,
Last night I won a Parker 974-1/2 vise at an estate auction. Along with that, I won a fully charged fire extinguisher. a Cincinnati Tool Co. 6" C-clamp, Wilton 806 & 804 C-clamps and a vintage Craftsman portable sander.

Life's good!

 

[joe.striper]

Hi everyone. One of my customers asked me a question I cannot answer. Recently he bought a 5" Starret vise from me. He went to mount it and noticed the base had a tapered mounting hole, from 3/4" to 5/8ths. He asked me why and I could not explain it.

Can any of you give me a good explanation?

 

[zoomieport]

All,
Last night I won a Parker 974-1/2 vise at an estate auction. Along with that, I won a fully charged fire extinguisher. a Cincinnati Tool Co. 6" C-clamp, Wilton 806 & 804 C-clamps and a vintage Craftsman portable sander.

Life's good!

Nice haul Mark!

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Hi everyone. One of my customers asked me a question I cannot answer. Recently he bought a 5" Starret vise from me. He went to mount it and noticed the base had a tapered mounting hole, from 3/4" to 5/8ths. He asked me why and I could not explain it.

Can any of you give me a good explanation?

Joe,
The base was cast in a mold. To allow it to be released from the mold, there must be a draft, or angle of the pin that forms the holes, so the molded part can be easily released from the mold. You can look at any plastic box or Tupperware container and see that the top rim is larger than the bottom.

 

[Boatman53]

No I think he means the top surface slopes down at the back end. At least that's what it appears in the photo.
Jim

 

[trijeff]

Thanks for the family photo, Zoom!! Awestruck and jealous for sure! How long did it take you to collect all of them? I've never even seen one to buy or bid on myself. Any idea of the date range on those guys? Seems like it was a narrow window. For now I'll just have to settle for my transition 104.5 and old school 404.

Mark, thanks for dropping knowledge regarding the molding process ... so that means that any cast base with uniform hole size throughout depth necessarily must have been drilled out afterwards?

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[va.grouseman]

Nice family Zoom.---And every member of the family is an excellent specimen of it's kind.---Quality costs extra.

 

[zoomieport]

Thanks guys! I do recall a date stamp on one, if I remember correctly it was late 60's, I'll look again when I go back home.

Take care!
Merry Christmas!
ZOOM

 

[trijeff]

Hi all,
That double pinned Wilton C0 is still for sale I asked about the other day, but it seems the seller is finally seeing some value in it. Whats the most you'd pay for one? He's now asking 250..

I does look in good shape and has the swivel base.
Looking forward to opinions
Cheers

I'd try to chop some price off there, start at $200. But if it's clean (i.e. no cracks or welds and includes all parts including pipe jaws, end cap), you're getting an OK value at $250 and could even turn a profit if you restored it nicely. In sum, not a bad deal just not a you **** deal imo.

EDIT: if you plan on keeping it for a user, it is an especially classy version of that vise and will fulfill 90-95% of most folks vising needs imo. They look really nice all spiffed up, I believe CroA recently produced a real gem

 

[Outlawmws]

Hi everyone. One of my customers asked me a question I cannot answer. Recently he bought a 5" Starret vise from me. He went to mount it and noticed the base had a tapered mounting hole, from 3/4" to 5/8ths. He asked me why and I could not explain it.

Can any of you give me a good explanation?

Joe,
The base was cast in a mold. To allow it to be released from the mold, there must be a draft, or angle of the pin that forms the holes, so the molded part can be easily released from the mold. You can look at any plastic box or Tupperware container and see that the top rim is larger than the bottom.

No I think he means the top surface slopes down at the back end. At least that's what it appears in the photo.
Jim

Read the words, he means the hole...

 

[Boatman53]

I stand corrected.
Jim

 

[Outlawmws]

I stand corrected.
Jim

You're probably sitting, but that's OK