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Thanks for all the kind comments! @zigzagfrog, I laughed while reading your post and began to wonder if there was a hidden camera filming me......you hit the nail on the head! I actually shared your post with my wife and she agreed your comments were spot on. The garage has been a huge undertaking, but well worth the effort. At this point I probably won't pour the floor until late next spring, I'm ok with that since I want to take my time on the layout for electrical and radiant floor heat.
 

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Crook, will you have any usable attic storage or are the joists just for ceiling and insulation support?

Great looking build.
 

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You can save some labor later and run some PVC conduit from your electrical panel area, under ground, to the man door area for you light feeds, and to the 4 corners....set a large outlet box...4 11/16". Sure save trying to drill holes and pulling wire up ...over...down. Plus if late, ya need a 240 circuit WAY over there, ya have a conduit WAY over there already. Just a thought. I did his and it has turned out a smart move. Nice build by the way.
 
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65cayne, I looked into attic trusses but the cost increase was not acceptable to my budget. Honestly if 2000 sf is not enough room then I am doing something wrong, LOL. The joists are rated for a ceiling and insulation but no further load. rburke65, thanks for the good advice, I will be running some conduits to known locations under the floor prior to the insulation/slab being poured. Here are a couple more update photo's. The two longest pieces of steel are 19 feet long, at that length they become interesting to work with. The best way we have found to work with the longer pieces is with me in the lift supporting the top after we stand the steel on end. My wife manages the bottom of the steel as we step it on the Z flashing on top of the wainscot. Once I put a screw in the sheet 3/4 of the way up, I go down to the bottom and make sure it lines up with the wainscot ribs and start screwing it in.
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The rear wall is done! I have to say with one side complete the interior space is definitely darker. I hope to start on the upper wall steel for the North wall today.
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The North wall on the garage has been finished. I photo shopped shutters on to see how it would look. The overwhelming response from people is to add shutters. Only 2 walls left to side!
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Looks great. I love watching peoples builds. Gives me motivation and ideas for my own shop one day. Have you been pleased with the design and construction manual?
 
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I finished siding the South wall. I also dug the trench for the electrical service, installed the conduits and had it inspected before backfilling. I am fighting the dropping temperatures here in the Northeast, I was really hoping to have all the sheet metal up before temps dropped below freezing. I finished framing the front wall and the overhead door openings. The front wall has been the most challenging since 6 of the 8 posts have substantial twist/warp in them. This wall is also a sheer wall so I had to install plywood as a sandwich to add sheer strength. Here are a few more update pictures.
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A few more update pictures.
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I understand your pain with the warped posts. I put up my posts and because I don't have my own man lift I couldn't install the header beams before the wall girts like should have been done. By the time I got the wall girts installed up the posts a couple of the posts had started to warp at the top. I tried to pull them back to vertical with ratchet sttaps but those 6x6 posts don't like to move if they don't want to.

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It has been a while so here are some more pictures. I am done with the roof!!! The roof was a big accomplishment for me due to my aversion to heights. I am happy with the finished roof along with the soffits and eaves. The wainscot is going well so far, hopefully I will get some wall steel up today.

How did you handle the roof panels? Could conceivably become quite dangerous in a hurry.
 
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Ah, the roof panels. Lets just say that I am glad I am done with the roof! The panels are 24' 7.5" long, at that length they become VERY flexible. The way my father and I handled this was interesting to say the least. We started out by placing a 20' long board onto the scissor lift with one end tucked up under the eave and the other end near the ground. We would slide a panel onto the board with the top hanging over onto the roof. Then we raised the scissor lift up so the board angle matched the roof angle. Then I would climb a ladder that I had affixed to the roof slope and pull the panel up to the peak and started to fasten it down. It may not have been the most efficient way but working with only myself and my father, it was virtually the only way for us to do it. Its done, and I am happy with the results :thumbup:
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If you roll the panel into a "U" or "O" shape it's a lot easier to handle the long pieces without fear of kinking them. I used regular motorcycle straps and carried them up a ladder.
 

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It has been a while so here are some more pictures. I am done with the roof!!! The roof was a big accomplishment for me due to my aversion to heights. I am happy with the finished roof along with the soffits and eaves. The wainscot is going well so far, hopefully I will get some wall steel up today.

You are taking on quite the accomplishment taking this on nearly by yourself! Well done sir!

I was curious as to the lighting in this post.
It appears you've install eve lighting?
I'm a huge fan of nearly hidden, very functional, yet solid accent lighting and want to know more details?
Do you have lighting installed at this point? And of so, what light fixture is it?
If not, what other kind of sorcery is producing this effect?


Keep up the good work? You'lol be enjoying the fruits of your labor soon enough!
 

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Wow, great job doing it all yourself! May I ask specifically which of the three towns you're in? I live in Rochester and so do my parents. My father is going to put up a 32x30 pole barn in the spring and we are trying to decide on who to go with. I was looking at Hansen pole buildings as well as DIY. I have seen a DIY brand building and it looked nice. We don't plan on erecting the building ourselves though, wish we had the time...
Keep up the good work.
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Ah, the roof panels. Lets just say that I am glad I am done with the roof! The panels are 24' 7.5" long, at that length they become VERY flexible. The way my father and I handled this was interesting to say the least. We started out by placing a 20' long board onto the scissor lift with one end tucked up under the eave and the other end near the ground. We would slide a panel onto the board with the top hanging over onto the roof. Then we raised the scissor lift up so the board angle matched the roof angle. Then I would climb a ladder that I had affixed to the roof slope and pull the panel up to the peak and started to fasten it down. It may not have been the most efficient way but working with only myself and my father, it was virtually the only way for us to do it. Its done, and I am happy with the results :thumbup:
Sean

Yeah...that looks like no fun at all. I'd be a happy camper to pass that milestone as well.

If you roll the panel into a "U" or "O" shape it's a lot easier to handle the long pieces without fear of kinking them. I used regular motorcycle straps and carried them up a ladder.

Simple and clever. I wouldn't think you could roll them up like that.
 
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You are taking on quite the accomplishment taking this on nearly by yourself! Well done sir!

I was curious as to the lighting in this post.
It appears you've install eve lighting?
I'm a huge fan of nearly hidden, very functional, yet solid accent lighting and want to know more details?
Do you have lighting installed at this point? And of so, what light fixture is it?
If not, what other kind of sorcery is producing this effect?


Keep up the good work? You'lol be enjoying the fruits of your labor soon enough!

I installed recessed cans in the soffits prior to installing the vinyl soffit. The cans on the gable ends are for sloped ceilings and are damp rated
Halo H47ICAT
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Halo-6-i...Ceiling-IC-Air-Tite-Housing-H47ICAT/100599762

The cans on the sides are regular damp rated Halo H7ICT
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Halo-6-i...g-New-Construction-IC-Housing-H7ICT/100068963

The sloped ceiling cans are HUGE, so large that they almost did not fit into the overhang that is 1' wide X 10" deep. I went with sloped cans because I didn't care for light being cast at an angle over the ribbed steel. I haven't installed my electrical panel yet, I wired all sides into a plug and used an extension cord to test the lights. The bulbs are Sylvania LED Glass Edition 14W bulb that I scored on sale from Lowes by chance. My plan is to install smart light switches that can be controlled remotely from inside my house as well as from the garage. Thanks for the kind comments.

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I have a 42x48 with doors just like your plans except mine are 12x12 doors.
Me sidewall height is 14 ft.
2016 sq. ft. gives decent shop room plus storage for a few cars or toys.
Good luck with it and keep us posted.
 
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Wow, great job doing it all yourself! May I ask specifically which of the three towns you're in? I live in Rochester and so do my parents. My father is going to put up a 32x30 pole barn in the spring and we are trying to decide on who to go with. I was looking at Hansen pole buildings as well as DIY. I have seen a DIY brand building and it looked nice. We don't plan on erecting the building ourselves though, wish we had the time...
Keep up the good work.
-Bill

I live in Rochester, great town to raise kids with a good school system. I wish I had the money to have the building built for me, but if I wanted it this size I was going to have to build it myself. I shopped several brands and this kit was the best for my needs.

Sean
 
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OK,
You can't leave us hanging. You MUST give us details on the deck and porch!

Bill

The farmers porch is 68 feet across the front of the house, 10 feet deep. It wraps the left side for 25 feet and the right side for 20 feet. I built the farmers porch when I had the house set on the foundation 10 years ago (its a modular house.) At the time I built it, Trex was the popular product to use, I used the Brasilia. I am unimpressed with the Trex product, it was supposed to mimic a Brazilian Hard wood.....it has basically faded to a purple/maroon color and has swelled more on one edge due to uneven extrusion. I may replace it eventually with Azek product. I really enjoy the porch and spend as much time out there as I can.
I poured the footing for the 35X20 deck when I built the house 10 years ago, I framed the deck in 2013 and finished it with Azek decking, Azek Radiance Rail, and Azek post cap low voltage LED lights in 2014. When I installed the decking I used the Cortex plug system and really like the results. The lighted caps are $$$ but well worth the money.

Sean
 

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I like that lighting idea, very nice touch. Also big kudos for all the work you have done so far. Keep up the good work!

I figured the can lights would be the easiest way to have light around the perimeter of the garage without overly expensive fixtures. Thanks for the compliments.

Sean
 
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I have a 42x48 with doors just like your plans except mine are 12x12 doors.
Me sidewall height is 14 ft.
2016 sq. ft. gives decent shop room plus storage for a few cars or toys.
Good luck with it and keep us posted.

I should have made the door on the side of the building a 12X12 but wasn't thinking when I started sketching my ideas for the garage. As big as the garage is, I am sure it will fill up quickly.

Sean
 

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.....it has basically faded to a purple/maroon color and has swelled more on one edge due to uneven extrusion. I may replace it eventually with Azek product. I really enjoy the porch and spend as much time out there as I can.


Sean

I was able to get an 8 year old deck surface replaced under warranty this year. It was not Trex but a competitor. A lot of the decks of that era had problems and have replacement warranties with them. Check it out.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310079

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I live in Rochester, great town to raise kids with a good school system. I wish I had the money to have the building built for me, but if I wanted it this size I was going to have to build it myself. I shopped several brands and this kit was the best for my needs.

Sean

Unfortunately that is part of the reason his shop will only be 30x32. When he first started talking to a local guy the amount he quoted him for a larger building was insane. So, my dad downsized and got the permits and variances needed for the smaller building only to find out he could have gotten a larger building for a much better price online. A friend of the family paid $8k to have his 40'x32' building erected from DIY pole barns, which seems reasonable to us.

I have lived in Rochester my entire life and my dad has been here pretty much his whole life too. I absolutely love it and am very happy we are raising our family here.

-Bill

P.S. - The lighting looks great!
 
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All the large sheet metal is up!!! I have the corner trim to hang, a small triangle where the front wall metal meets the soffit and one piece of Z flashing at the wainscot line by the right most over head door to install. The temperature today is around 15 degrees and windy, I have decided to not work on the garage today. More updates to follow when I start the bulk of the electrical work.

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Final update for the exterior this winter. All the sheet metal has been hung on the exterior! I am happy with the finished product thus far, looking forward to having the floor poured in the spring of 2017. I will begin the wiring after the first of the year, I actually enjoy doing electrical work.
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Nice work! I hope I never build a shop again, but if I do, I'd love to build it myself like you are doing.

It looks like you already hung 2*6s between the trusses to hang your ceiling on. Can you tell me more about that? Why not 2*4s? What spacing did you use? How did you attach it to the trusses?

Thanks!
 
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Nice work! I hope I never build a shop again, but if I do, I'd love to build it myself like you are doing.

It looks like you already hung 2*6s between the trusses to hang your ceiling on. Can you tell me more about that? Why not 2*4s? What spacing did you use? How did you attach it to the trusses?

Thanks!

The engineered plans called for 2X6's to be used between the double trusses for the ceiling. The trusses are engineered for a ceiling load but no storage load. The 2X6's are attached using 2X6 joist hangers nailed to the face of the truss and are spaced 24" OC. I originally wanted to use attic trusses to create a usable room over the garage but the price increase placed it out of my price range.

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I passed my electrical rough inspection! I'm continuing to move forward with the electrical and garage doors. The overhead doors (Garaga) should be hung this coming Monday and Tuesday along with liftmaster 8500 jack shaft openers. Soon I will begin to install the foam board insulation along the interior perimeter of the grade board to begin prepping for the radiant floor slab. Coincidently putting the foam board in place will also help to close up the garage from weather and further bird intrusion. Here are some updated pictures and links to the electrical and lighting.
Sean

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348336 electrical

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=355882 lights
 

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I passed my electrical rough inspection! I'm continuing to move forward with the electrical and garage doors. The overhead doors (Garaga) should be hung this coming Monday and Tuesday along with liftmaster 8500 jack shaft openers. Soon I will begin to install the foam board insulation along the interior perimeter of the grade board to begin prepping for the radiant floor slab. Coincidently putting the foam board in place will also help to close up the garage from weather and further bird intrusion. Here are some updated pictures and links to the electrical and lighting.
Sean

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348336 electrical

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=355882 lights

I think you'll like those Insteon switches. I have started swapping out switches in my house with these. Started with the main switches that the kids don't seem to know how to turn off. Best think about them is you can use them to make a 3-way, 4-way, infinite-way circuits.
Making good progress on the building and it looks great! Electrical rough is a good milestone!
 
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It's been a long time since my last post, I have been working on the inside so that I cane begin preparing for the floor. I added vertical insulation to protect under the slab from frost and I'm currently finishing up the ceiling installation.
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I should have been updating this thread right along but late is better than never. So, here goes.
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More progress.
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Once the slab was poured, I then began to place the lifts so I could drill the holes and epoxy the floor. Plans changed and I went from 2 2-post lifts to 1 2-post and 1 4-post lift.
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