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Continued...

The eyesore across the street from us sold last year and they are tearing it down, to be replaced with a McMansion.
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Took me a while, but I think I figured it out. That nice little white house between the trees is the eyesore. That would have made for some fine Section 8 housing! Boy do we ever have different standards!!

Of course I could have guessed that by looking at your fine cars!
 
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At this point I hadn't made any catastrophic mistakes so I quit and went to bed. I usually keep working until I've drawn blood for the second time because the third time always requires stitches. [FONT=&quot]To this point n[/FONT]o one has been harmed in this repair process.[/FONT]

What? Have you forgotten how you've hurt my pride with this show of skill and cunning? Have a little sympathy for us slugs, please.

Nice job all around! As you well know the way to avoid mistakes is to do nothing, which in itself can be a mistake...
 

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Bob,
The Weatherpack connectors and the T-12 crimp tool sure make wiring so much easier. I spent way too much on all the parts I thought I would need and have use it quite a few times and am still impressed with the results. My only criticism for them is the connectors are rather large and kind of a pain to fit in tight spaces. Following along to learn more from the master.
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So frustrating when you take on one already frustrating job and then have to add a few more just because it needs to be done and needs doing right. You did good Bob!

Hehe… fancy footwork! Being pedidextrous definitely makes up for not being ambidextrous. Though with use of the nose I guess it makes you more omnidextrous or is it paradextrous. :) I used to have a large bull terrier that loved to join me working under the car. Usually right in my face which hampered work quite a bit. Trained him to stay down by my feet and as long as I was rubbing him with my foot, usually pinned to the back of a wheel, he was happy and out of my way. Makes for some awkward evolution. Petting the dog while ratcheting. :)
 
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Bob, nice work on the sensor wiring and connectors you are welcome here to help me out with one certain MG F harness.

Regards
Steve, thanks for the compliment. I think I might enjoy working on wiring that is at table height. Wiring under the car or dashboard and in the confines of the engine isn't as much fun when you get older.
I love reading this stuff. You can learn and improve so much, and the unending variety is great.
Terrick, thank you and I do enjoy taking on new challenges. I'm not always successful but I'd much rather try and fail. Although it is sometimes embarrassing to take the failure to a professional and admit the disaster is of my own making.
Took me a while, but I think I figured it out. That nice little white house between the trees is the eyesore. That would have made for some fine Section 8 housing! Boy do we ever have different standards!!

Of course I could have guessed that by looking at your fine cars!
Andy, when we moved in, that house had just been renovated by a young man who made it very nice, inside and out.

The next owners preferred a more natural and hands-off approach. Their foster raccoons turned the attic into a nursery. Perhaps fearing a ceiling collapse, they stacked newspapers and miscellaneous treasures high enough to protect themselves. The bank disagreed with their hands-off approach to loan repayments and took ownership of the house for the $106K balance on the mortgage. The bank hired a crew to remove seven to ten dumpsters full of their safety structures.

The bank put the house on the market for $222K and a young man in California (former Floridian) bought the house based on some very carefully staged photos. When he entered the house for the first time the raccoon smell, not mentioned in the listing, was overwhelming. He must have gotten used to it because he pitched a tent inside the house and removed all the walls, ceilings, plumbing and electrical as well as the windows and doors. I lost count of the dumpsters he filled. His final act was to put the front door back in its original location. Apparently pleased with his progress, he decided to apply for a building permit. Like many before him, he discovered building department employees in trendy cities don't have a very good sense of humor. I do think they have a bit of a sadistic streak because the mess is located five blocks from city hall (where the department headquarters is located) and they never contacted him about his flagrant violations of procedure. When he did show up, they made it impossible for him to sit down ever again.

It may have been the last young man's improvements but more likely just the improving real estate market -- he sold the property (it wasn't really a house anymore) for $265K. The new owners hired a demolition team that leveled the house in 3 days (removing another 6 tractor trailer loads of debris). If they had another tractor trailer or two it probably could have been done in one day.
What? Have you forgotten how you've hurt my pride with this show of skill and cunning? Have a little sympathy for us slugs, please.

Nice job all around! As you well know the way to avoid mistakes is to do nothing, which in itself can be a mistake...
Andy, I'll see your skill and cunning and raise you my shame and embarrassment.

I am an expert at doing nothing. Witness the "brakes felt funny" start of this fiasco.
Bob,
The Weatherpack connectors and the T-12 crimp tool sure make wiring so much easier. I spent way too much on all the parts I thought I would need and have use it quite a few times and am still impressed with the results. My only criticism for them is the connectors are rather large and kind of a pain to fit in tight spaces. Following along to learn more from the master.
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JB, you are so right about the T-12 tool. I started with a pair of needle nose pliers trying to crimp a repair on a connector. Talk about epic fail -- I couldn't even get the mangled mess back together. The cheap crimper did a better job but I couldn't get all the strands of wire inside the crimp. You are welcome to follow along but your teacher (master:dunno:) is just sharing and learning right along with you.

So frustrating when you take on one already frustrating job and then have to add a few more just because it needs to be done and needs doing right. You did good Bob!

Hehe… fancy footwork! Being pedidextrous definitely makes up for not being ambidextrous. Though with use of the nose I guess it makes you more omnidextrous or is it paradextrous. :) I used to have a large bull terrier that loved to join me working under the car. Usually right in my face which hampered work quite a bit. Trained him to stay down by my feet and as long as I was rubbing him with my foot, usually pinned to the back of a wheel, he was happy and out of my way. Makes for some awkward evolution. Petting the dog while ratcheting. :)
Guster, good to hear from you. I am guilty of turning many fairly simple repairs into huge projects. I guess it's just an unintended consequence of having three running cars and not needing any of them to get to work.

One side effect of losing my arm was an interest in coping. One of my college professors suggested I teach a course on the subject. When you decide not to curl up in a ball after a physical setback, you notice how amazing people with disabilities are. I can't do much with my feet but I often remember to use them to help out. Cameras are not allowed near me when I'm doing construction work or holding the nut on the back side of a body panel. Sometimes I need even more help...
 

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Bob I like the story of the house next door!

Though it's not quite the mini series length of some of your other post!

Those I have enjoyed as well!

Keep up the updates on the new construction!
 
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And the brake job goes on...

The finished cable looks better but it was way too much work. I finished the front passenger sensor cable and left the rear alone.
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Once I had all the lines installed and zip-tied fairly neatly, I tried getting the five lines run to the ABS compartment. My feet failed miserably trying to hold the stainless spaghetti in place so I made a wooden guide, screwed it up and did it over on the opposite side of the wood. The notches in my stick line up with the notches in the cover.
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It worked better than I expected. This picture doesn't really show how springy those stainless lines are.
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Encouraged by my success, I made a diagonal brace to support the ABS unit (in it's steel mount) while I connected the five lines. As I mentioned earlier, it is almost impossible to get a wrench on the bottom fitting from the top.
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At this point I have tightened all the fittings finger tight. I go to my tool box and proudly bring my new-to-me Snap-On 12 mm flare wrench to begin the final tightening process. I am saddened to find that my beautiful new brake lines have 13mm fittings. I may have to get a glass case to store that wrench.

I tied the ABS unit to a piece of tubing laid across the top of the compartment and then managed to remove the slotted stick and begin the install of the bottom cover.
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I squeezed some RTV into the channels around the tubing before tightening the cover down (up?). Before I leave this spot I need to connect the vapor line with a piece of hose. I have a small addiction to braided stainless hose and AN fittings but decided to just use the hose and plain old screw clamps.
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You would think I could just button this project up and get on with the bleeding of the brakes but nooo -- I have to polish the aluminum steering shaft and paint the steel rag joint.
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[FONT=&quot]I know I’m going to have a leak but I’m hoping it will only be one or two out of the 20 connections.
4 – Caliper fittings
4 – Flex line fittings
3 – Rear T-fitting
5 – ABS fittings
2 – Front crossover line fittings
2 – Master cylinder line fittings

I had a couple of leaks (stainless lines need a little extra tightening to seal) but thought I was home free once they were fixed. I began the brake bleeding process and had immediate success withe the front brakes. The rear calipers seemed to take more time and I became impatient and really sucked the rear lines out with my Harbor Freight vacuum pump.

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[FONT=&quot]I tried pumping the [FONT=&quot]brake pedal, fir[FONT=&quot]st with the engine off and then with the engine running and vacuum supplied to the brake booster. The brake [FONT=&quot]pedal was sinking slowly to the floor, along with my enthusiasm.

[FONT=&quot]I had replaced the front calipers but re-used the rear calipers[FONT=&quot], which had been rebuilt a few years before.[FONT=&quot] I had somehow messed them up and the[FONT=&quot]re were large [FONT=&quot]pools of b[FONT=&quot]rake f[FONT=&quot]luid under the rear calipers. I ordered new rebuilt calip[FONT=&quot]ers and a week later had the system bled using close to a gallon of DO[FONT=&quot]T-3 brake fluid.

[FONT=&quot]The brakes work great and the ABS light on the information panel is permanently on. Done and dusted (I may remove the ABS bulb from that panel next time I have to go in there). Or, a future owner can swap the original ABS unit that was never touched and worked just fine. It's in a [FONT=&quot]clearly marked tear-stained cardboard box in the garage.[/FONT][/FONT]
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Bob, I just read through most of this thread the past couple of days so while it is on my mind I'll add a thought....

Your pressure regulator belt clip setup is very cool, I understand the need for it, but I solved it by putting a 25 ft hose between the regulator and the gun, that way I am not dealing with it. I just plumbed the male and female couplings on the regulator and plug in the hoses to it.

Keep up the good work,
Jason
 

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You've forced me to recount the story of an acquaintance. A nice reticent gentleman was moved by his company from Houston to work in our office in Tulsa. He had several months notice.

Being a competent astute individual, he spent several months preparing his house for sale, including new parquet in the entrance, new light fixtures and faucets, crown molding in two rooms, and fulfilled his wife's dream of granite counter tops. Even though she would not be able to enjoy using them.

The first young couple made a full price offer for their house inside the beltway in Houston. He was quite pleased that the improvement he had made got him not only full price but a quick sale.

After being in Tulsa for about six months he made a business trip back to Houston. While there he drove by his old house. It and the house next door had been demolished for a mega infill project.
 
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Bob I like the story of the house next door!

Though it's not quite the mini series length of some of your other post!

Those I have enjoyed as well!

Keep up the updates on the new construction!
Sub, I will keep you all posted on the new construction. I am hoping this isn't one of those "unintended consequences" stories. I try not to annoy my neighbors with late night grinding and hammering. I'm going to try to make friends with the new owners but you never know. I'll be spraying some primer in my garage and eventually may be spraying base and clear coat after that. Filters help but it's hard to completely eliminate the smell. Maybe I'll rent a booth on a weekend.
Bob, I just read through most of this thread the past couple of days so while it is on my mind I'll add a thought....

Your pressure regulator belt clip setup is very cool, I understand the need for it, but I solved it by putting a 25 ft hose between the regulator and the gun, that way I am not dealing with it. I just plumbed the male and female couplings on the regulator and plug in the hoses to it.

Keep up the good work,
Jason
Jason, thanks for posting and the kind words. Most of the paint I spray isn't real sensitive to pressure and volume but SPI Epoxy Primer and Universal Clear certainly are. According to the company owner/chemist/guru you can have problems if the pressure in the line from the compressor is below 120 PSI and you need to regulate down to 10 to 25 PSI at or very close to the gun for best results. In the past I have always done it the way you describe (I hate adding weight at the working end). I'm just trying to eliminate as many potential problem areas as possible.
You've forced me to recount the story of an acquaintance. A nice reticent gentleman was moved by his company from Houston to work in our office in Tulsa. He had several months notice.

Being a competent astute individual, he spent several months preparing his house for sale, including new parquet in the entrance, new light fixtures and faucets, crown molding in two rooms, and fulfilled his wife's dream of granite counter tops. Even though she would not be able to enjoy using them.

The first young couple made a full price offer for their house inside the beltway in Houston. He was quite pleased that the improvement he had made got him not only full price but a quick sale.

After being in Tulsa for about six months he made a business trip back to Houston. While there he drove by his old house. It and the house next door had been demolished for a mega infill project.
Andy, that very common around here. This particular section of our street has unusually deep lots for downtown. You can put a pretty big house on these lots and because of their elevation, some of the homes have basements -- unheard of in South Florida.
 

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Hello Bob,

It's been awhile since I took a good look at your thread. I wanted to say I like the modifications you made to the older vette (exhaust/body work), the lighting you did to your place (you know I'm big into yard/gardening) and of course the brake line project (Wow!)..

Very cool stuff, I like that you fixed many other (discovered) issues as you went along (and of course polished the aluminum steering shaft and paint the steel rag joint) :)

I very much enjoyed your attention to detail, the new crimpers and how nice those connectors turned out. :thumbup:
 

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Bob:

Think of how much your real estate is appreciating if the cost of a teardown was $265K plus the cost of demolition.

I have been watching the brake line repair with a high level of interest. I have a 2001 Chevy pickup and they are notorious for brake line failure. I watch my lines very closely since I had it happen on my 93 and was driving my dad's 2003 when it happened on it. At least I know how to stop using front brakes only.

Watching your methods of work takes me back to my early teens. A neighbor had a '66 and '72 Corvettes which he restored. He was a member of a local club and always had some buddies around in the evenings or on the weekends, but he got off work early in the afternoon and was usually willing to entertain me and let me help. I learned more from him about maintaining and working on cars and what he showed me about detail work has stuck with me as I work on my own vehicles, time and ability permitting. He also tried to not have to take it to someone, but knew enough other guys that had been there and done that that he was able to usually avoid having to shell out shop rates.

I don't know if you ever drive up to see your daughter, but if you do and can stand to make a little bypass, the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green, KY is well worth the visit for a 'Vette fan such as yourself. My wife had a broken foot and an all day meeting in Bowling Green about 10 years ago on my birthday. I offered to drive her and she was concerned that I would be bored. I told her for the price of admission I was good for the day. Getting to spend the day there without having to worry about someone else being bored was one of the best birthdays I have had as an adult.
 

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Great story on the neighbor's house history. I guess the young fellow got some city **** relief when he made a profit. At 260k for a lot, you have a nice retirement investment in your property.

Man, you could be a millionaire right now if you started your coping :rant: classes this past November.
 

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Of course where I live some people's driveways truly are an off road experience. I'll try to get some pictures for your viewing pleasure.

The driveway I was thinking about. The picture does not do it justice. Shadow was just in the wrong place. The car is parked at the road out of necessity.

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This one's not as bad

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Of course the advantage of both driveways is you cannot see the house from the road.:thumbup:
 

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[FONT=&quot]JB, great stories. As I said, I don't get the auto A/C shops. Ripping customers off is a bad word-of-mouth strategy and makes sure there's almost zero return business.

I inherited a second car when my father died in 1968. A 1963 Triumph Herald convertible. It was a tiny car with an unbelievable turning radius (I could make a no-reversing U-turn in a 2-car wide driveway). I had snow tires for the car and in a 14-inch blizzard with the county plows called off, we drove 30 miles home with no problem. In the rear view mirror I could see we were plowing the top six inches of snow and I couldn't make headway in 4th gear but it got us home. The one time I got stuck in the Herald, I lifted the rear end and moved it onto fresh snow.
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Andy, I have the same feeling about the self-driving cars. I will be that geezer hitting the accelerator instead of the brake and a dozen nearby Google cars will explode.

I'm wondering if the new Dodge Challenger GT AWD is going to be a big seller. A 4-wheel drive ponycar from the manufacturer, what will they think of next.

Rod, I like it -- I always turn the car around in the driveway to avoid backing onto the roadway. Sometimes I go a bit too far on the K-turn and put a tire on the lawn. Maybe I should invest in studded tires! :3gears:

Looking forward to it Andy!

The eyesore across the street from us sold last year and they are tearing it down, to be replaced with a McMansion.
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Monday morning we were greeted with the sound of heavy equipment and backup beepers.
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By Wednesday afternoon things got quiet again.
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All that sand is tempting. Maybe I'll rent a 4-wheeler and tear it up.

Looks warm. And we have frost -31
 
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Bob, top job..:thumbup:

Regards
Thanks for dropping by Steve and thanks for the compliment!
Hello Bob,

It's been awhile since I took a good look at your thread. I wanted to say I like the modifications you made to the older vette (exhaust/body work), the lighting you did to your place (you know I'm big into yard/gardening) and of course the brake line project (Wow!)..

Very cool stuff, I like that you fixed many other (discovered) issues as you went along (and of course polished the aluminum steering shaft and paint the steel rag joint) :)

I very much enjoyed your attention to detail, the new crimpers and how nice those connectors turned out. :thumbup:
Hello Kyle, glad you like the mods on the old Vette. I am pleased every time I go out and see the yard lit up. I finished the back yard and have been playing with different LED bulbs. I'll post some more about that shortly.

I have another 87 Vette project to report that predated the brakes. If you have an old small block (or big block) Chevy you probably have a puff of blue smoke on startup. It's a relatively small job for most to fix but I managed to turn it into another saga. I do like to polish metal and the 87 has plenty of aluminum to keep me as busy as I want.

Buying a special tool is wonderful but it really makes my day when they make a tedious job fun and successful.
Bob:

Think of how much your real estate is appreciating if the cost of a teardown was $265K plus the cost of demolition.

I have been watching the brake line repair with a high level of interest. I have a 2001 Chevy pickup and they are notorious for brake line failure. I watch my lines very closely since I had it happen on my 93 and was driving my dad's 2003 when it happened on it. At least I know how to stop using front brakes only.

Watching your methods of work takes me back to my early teens. A neighbor had a '66 and '72 Corvettes which he restored. He was a member of a local club and always had some buddies around in the evenings or on the weekends, but he got off work early in the afternoon and was usually willing to entertain me and let me help. I learned more from him about maintaining and working on cars and what he showed me about detail work has stuck with me as I work on my own vehicles, time and ability permitting. He also tried to not have to take it to someone, but knew enough other guys that had been there and done that that he was able to usually avoid having to shell out shop rates.

I don't know if you ever drive up to see your daughter, but if you do and can stand to make a little bypass, the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green, KY is well worth the visit for a 'Vette fan such as yourself. My wife had a broken foot and an all day meeting in Bowling Green about 10 years ago on my birthday. I offered to drive her and she was concerned that I would be bored. I told her for the price of admission I was good for the day. Getting to spend the day there without having to worry about someone else being bored was one of the best birthdays I have had as an adult.
Kenny, my kids may benefit from our house appreciating. For me it's a paid-off place with fairly low taxes ($3.2K).

If I were you, I'd buy a pre-bent stainless brake line kit. I don't know which model you have but a 2001 Silverado kit is about $100, which is pretty cheap insurance. Here's one site: https://www.1aauto.com/2001-02-brak...9Zj0N33Dl_9j0-Q2hVzbbTUxmODAYGT2MAaAs2L8P8HAQ

The whole working on my car thing was a labor of love when I was young although I didn't have the money to do otherwise. I have more money now but I seem to get ripped off every time I trust the work to someone else.

Our daughter (as well as her husband and 2 boys) abandoned Ohio and moved back to Florida in 2003. The world's largest and cheapest thrift store would have to be located within a few feet of the NCM in Kentucky before my wife would entertain a road trip. I would have to find a very trustworthy co-conspirator who had a family emergency in Bowling Green to make that trip possible. A week-long funeral would have to be arranged because I couldn't just spend a day. :evil:
Great story on the neighbor's house history. I guess the young fellow got some city **** relief when he made a profit. At 260k for a lot, you have a nice retirement investment in your property.

Man, you could be a millionaire right now if you started your coping :rant: classes this past November.
Hi Stewart! You are right that he lucked out -- I didn't think he would break even! Unfortunately my house isn't an investment -- it's a place to live. If I were to sell it and buy a place in Florida for a whole lot less, I'd probably be stuck with higher taxes or monthly maintenance fees (fees that grow faster than a Ficus tree).

I have a feeling my coping class would be a total failure. I teach people how to cope with reality and that doesn't seem of interest to anyone anymore (on either side).

The driveway I was thinking about. The picture does not do it justice. Shadow was just in the wrong place. The car is parked at the road out of necessity.

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This one's not as bad

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Of course the advantage of both driveways is you cannot see the house from the road.:thumbup:
Andy, I'm pretty sure my oldest grandson took that first driveway at about 60 mph in his lifted RAM diesel pickup. That would explain the toe-out on his front end. The second one looks like a typical driveway pour on a Florida tract home.
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Looks warm. And we have frost -31
Vieux, it has been a typical winter here. Winter is a very confusing season in South Florida. The maple tree lost its leaves a week or two ago...
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...while these bushes started blooming...
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...and this orchid bloomed.
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We are having a cold snap right now. It is about 50*F (11*C) tonight. I have only suffered through those extremely cold temperatures a few times when we lived up north. At -31 you are getting close to the magic temperature when minus 40 is minus 40 in degrees C and degrees F.
 

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Hey Bob, been trying to get through your thread, but every time I do, I get side tracked by the necessities of life and have to start over. Anyway, I the reason I had to drop you a line is that I had a dream about you last night. You were standing there trying to give me a prosthetic arm. Short but very strange dream. Anyway, I'm glad I dropped by because I love the ingenuity of your temporary holders. Well played.
 
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Hey Bob, been trying to get through your thread, but every time I do, I get side tracked by the necessities of life and have to start over. Anyway, I the reason I had to drop you a line is that I had a dream about you last night. You were standing there trying to give me a prosthetic arm. Short but very strange dream. Anyway, I'm glad I dropped by because I love the ingenuity of your temporary holders. Well played.
Kirk, I know what you mean about life side tracking our leisure activities.

I'm hoping me giving you an artificial arm isn't too disturbing to your future restful nights' sleep. My best dreams involve my left arm still being where it belongs.

That slotted temporary holder was actually a product of a good night's sleep. I had tried a plain paint stick first and the stainless lines just slipped all over the place. My first thought was to drill holes in a 1x2 and ripping the 1x2 in half but that meant setting up the table saw. Being a fairly lazy person, I cut the slots with the radial arm saw because it is always set up and ready to go. I get a fair number of decent ideas right after I wake up (having gone to sleep thinking about the problem).
 
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One of the neighbors behind my property put up a new fence a few years ago. Last week I noticed the fence was leaning toward his side. His yard used to be well-cared for but it is looking a lot like the mess across the street lately. They don't talk to me (or anyone else that I know of) so without asking, I decided to slow the collapse of the fence. The neighbor's fence is on the left in this picture. I have a 4x4 post holding up my fence on the right and it is a recently replaced one. Their fence used to touch mine but when they had the new fence put up, they didn't remove the rotted old one. I took care of that mess a few years ago and ignored the open space. I plan to continue ignoring it.
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I could have just tied a rope to the fence but because of this forum, I had to do it the GJ Way. Shopnut of the Asylum thread showed how to make a professional-looking eye in wire rope so I tried making up a short cable connected to a turnbuckle. I succeeded in making the cable a couple of inches too long the first time but I didn't give up. Here are the parts (screw eyes, thimbles and crimp connectors).
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I installed the screw eyes, one on the neighbor's fence (hidden from view on their side) and a second in my fence post. I couldn't take a picture of the process (my hand was full) but it involved a loop of rope over the neighbor's fence that I tied to my fence and pulled down on the rope with my chin, while hooking the turnbuckle to the screw eye on the neighbor's fence. I had already screwed the screw eye attached to the cable into my fence post. A few turns and the fence is closer to plumb. I'm going to let it settle for a week or two and tighten the turnbuckle some more.
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When you said wire rope eye I thought we were going to get to see a Molly Hogan!

Great job on the fence! One day, your cable will just be hanging down with a piece of rotted wood on the end.
 

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Nice job on the swage fittings -- I always like those for marine stuff.

One of the neighbors behind my property put up a new fence a few years ago. Last week I noticed the fence was leaning toward his side. . . Their fence used to touch mine but when they had the new fence put up, they didn't remove the rotted old one. I took care of that mess a few years ago . . .

That is just UN-f_ing-believable! You're a better man than I, Charlie Brown...

I cannot believe they left that mess on your side, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything these days. I guess you were thinking that the time needed to clear the rotted wood and fix the leaning fence was probably less hassle than arguing with them (and more certain to get results!) and I have to say, you were probably right. Well, at least the fence remaining upright means you don't have to stare at their yard!
 
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Ah Bob sneaky around to help improve the neighbors fence!

Nice work!
Matt, I live by the "ask for forgiveness rather than permission" rule when dealing with my neighbors' problems. I often fix broken sprinklers before the neighbor gets the $500 water bill -- I have a rather large collection of sprinkler repair parts.
Bob, now that is a top repair job..:thumbup:

We are fortunate that all our permitter fences have all been replaced in recent years and are all steel colour bond.

Regards
Steve, I would love to put up metal or some other more durable fencing. I have 300 feet (91.4 meters) of fencing on the north and south sides of my property under my control. Another 75 feet (23 meters) on the east side belongs to one neighbor and the 25 feet on that side that has started falling down belongs to another. I could put up better fencing but I'd still have the two neighbors' wood fencing. Neither of them seem to have money to spend on sprucing up there homes but both have open pools in their back yards (no screened enclosure) so they have to have a fenced yard by code.
Nice job on the fence. If it had been me having to fix it I would have done a few fancy twists with No 8 fencing wire. Mind you most of my fences here are all barbed wire given it used to be dairy paddock.

Did you listen to Cartalk today?
Simon, I have used wire coat hangers to tie things up, secure loose exhaust pipes and hang items to be spray painted. I was intrigued by Shopnut's use of swaged eyes on his cables and thought this would be a good place to try it out. I'm very happy with the result and I know it was 'GJ overkill' aka the least I could do.

Sorry to say I missed Cartalk. We have Cartalk on NPR (National Public Radio) on Saturday mornings and as much as I enjoy the show, I rarely get to listen. Please continue to remind us (me) because I have a sieve-like memory (according to my wife).
When you said wire rope eye I thought we were going to get to see a Molly Hogan!

Great job on the fence! One day, your cable will just be hanging down with a piece of rotted wood on the end.
Andy, bless you my friend. I was a little worried about Googling a Molly Hogan so I made sure my wife wasn't lurking nearby. I was still worried when I opened a YouTube video with a trucker sitting in his cab with a laptop and a piece of wire. What a relief to see him twist a loop in the cable.

I didn't use very big hardware on the fence repair. It's #14 screw eyes and 1/8-inch cable with a small stainless turnbuckle. I decided to put the screws in shear rather than tension so maybe it will take a little longer to fail.
Nice job on the swage fittings -- I always like those for marine stuff.

That is just UN-f_ing-believable! You're a better man than I, Charlie Brown...

I cannot believe they left that mess on your side, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything these days. I guess you were thinking that the time needed to clear the rotted wood and fix the leaning fence was probably less hassle than arguing with them (and more certain to get results!) and I have to say, you were probably right. Well, at least the fence remaining upright means you don't have to stare at their yard!
Rick, it's funny you mention marine stuff. When we lived close to the Hudson River and were into boating, it was always hard to put the boat up for the winter. When it snowed we went sledding and when it was cold we went ice skating. When it was sleeting or freezing rain, we hunkered down indoors. That's when I got out the lines for the boat and put eye splices in all the ends. I liked being able to quickly connect two lines and not have to check for granny knots. Most of the lines went with the boat when I sold it but I kept a 50-footer and use it to tie off or guide trees when I fell them. A neighbor bought me a new rope when he misunderstood my advise on pulling a palm tree off his roof after hurricane Wilna (forgot to tell him to take the slack out before driving away). I re-did the missing eye splice and then did the new line as well.
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I try to be a good neighbor but I expect few to reciprocate. It's always a pleasant surprise when one does. Being retired also helps my attitude. I have the time to take care of things that other people ignore.
Had to look up Molly Hogan. That's a cool technique. Thanks.
Stewart, I'm with you!
 

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Matt, I live by the "ask for forgiveness rather than permission" rule when dealing with my neighbors' problems. I often fix broken sprinklers before the neighbor gets the $500 water bill -- I have a rather large collection of sprinkler repair parts.

You're a Prince. But then we all knew that:bowdown:

Steve, I would love to put up metal or some other more durable fencing. I have 300 feet (91.4 meters) of fencing on the north and south sides of my property under my control. Another 75 feet (23 meters) on the east side belongs to one neighbor and the 25 feet on that side that has started falling down belongs to another.

I sort of feel your pain, I have 10 1/2 miles of barbed wire fencing from ten years old to 75 years old and I'm cleaning my shop:headscrat


Simon, I have used wire coat hangers to tie things up, secure loose exhaust pipes and hang items to be spray painted. I was intrigued by Shopnut's use of swaged eyes on his cables and thought this would be a good place to try it out. I'm very happy with the result and I know it was 'GJ overkill' aka the least I could do.

I truly pity poor people who don't have a stash of baling wire. Beats coat hangers by 1.61.clicks. I need to learn how to put on swages.


Andy, bless you my friend. I was a little worried about Googling a Molly Hogan so I made sure my wife wasn't lurking nearby. I was still worried when I opened a YouTube video with a trucker sitting in his cab with a laptop and a piece of wire. What a relief to see him twist a loop in the cable.

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti I do know some stuff, even if it's not very useful. But a good Molly Hogan is useful and does not require prying the rope open.


I didn't use very big hardware on the fence repair. It's #14 screw eyes and 1/8-inch cable with a small stainless turnbuckle. I decided to put the screws in shear rather than tension so maybe it will take a little longer to fail.

I think you misunderstood me, your repair is so good, I expect the fence to rot apart and fall down with your eye still holding on the the last piece of fence.

Rick, it's funny you mention marine stuff. When we lived close to the Hudson River and were into boating, it was always hard to put the boat up for the winter. When it snowed we went sledding and when it was cold we went ice skating. When it was sleeting or freezing rain, we hunkered down indoors. That's when I got out the lines for the boat and put eye splices in all the ends. I liked being able to quickly connect two lines and not have to check for granny knots. Most of the lines went with the boat when I sold it but I kept a 50-footer and use it to tie off or guide trees when I fell them. A neighbor bought me a new rope when he misunderstood my advise on pulling a palm tree off his roof after hurricane Wilna (forgot to tell him to take the slack out before driving away). I re-did the missing eye splice and then did the new line as well.
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Great Boy Scout splices:thumbup::thumbup:


I try to be a good neighbor but I expect few to reciprocate. It's always a pleasant surprise when one does. Being retired also helps my attitude. I have the time to take care of things that other people ignore.

Your wisdom is showing:rocker:

I love this thread! (Note: this was added solely because you can't just respond to a quote wholly within the quote. But I do love this thread)
 
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I have seen quite a few posts describing projects that have taken forever to start but have a real payback. This is one of those...

We bought our current home 20 years ago and the ceiling fan in the guest room had a problem. The light fixture had four lights on swivel mounts and two of them were loose. In addition, two of the light bulbs were burned out. I tried on numerous occasions to unscrew the light bulbs but the socket just spun and I was worried the wires would short out if I kept turning the bulb. I put up with the dead bulbs but the loose swivels meant the metal shade would hit the pull chain. An erratic bell overhead drove me nuts but my fix was to never turn the fan on. No big deal because I don't use the guest room.:rocker:

Before I retired, my home office was the back bedroom which opens onto the patio and back yard. It was a nice place to take conference calls, overlooking the pool.

After I retired I switched the office and guest bedrooms. Now the bells on the fan are over my head whenever the fan is on. Sometimes, in the summer heat, with three computers running and the thermostat on the far side of the house, the room is uncomfortably warm. It would have been nice to have the fan on. Instead, I just shut the computers off and left the room. :(

I have been looking for a replacement light fixture but the stupid fan and light fixture is peach color. I decided last week that I had everything I needed for the repair. I spent five minutes getting a step ladder, removing three screws and disconnecting two wires.
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I removed the loosest shade first. The swivel joint has spread open a bit and my recently acquired oetiker clamps slip over the outside and a quick crimp tightens the socket. Easy fix!!!

I moved on to the stuck bulb and unscrewed the socket. I got the bulb out and tried screwing the socket back in place. That's when I discovered the socket mount was stripped and it looked like it had been stripped at the factory. I knew I had some light mounting bars with the same threaded mounting hole. All I have to do is cut the bad threaded part off and weld the good threads on in its place.
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I'm pretty proud because I'm getting my Vieux on! I couldn't see a way to reproduce the bends on the new bar so...
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... I cut the threaded part out, leaving a tab to weld to the original piece.
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After I cut the old piece up, I used my HF MIG welder (with 75/25 shielding gas) and discovered I needed more than just MIN/MAX and 1/2 current settings. Not having much experience on this machine resulted in large weld with poor penetration.
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It was no surprise when the weld failed so I resorted to option 2: buy new sockets on Amazon ($3.98 each). Now I just have to feed the wire and insulation through the shade and swivel mount. After ten minutes of pushing on the flexible wire, I remembered I had a lot of that red sheathing left over from the 87 Corvette brake job. It worked perfectly!
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The couple of days waiting for the new socket to arrive was long enough for me to forget about the mounting nut that goes in the shade before screwing on the socket. I'll take the fixture apart again in another 20 years and put the nut in where it belongs. Until then, the shade is tight and doesn't make noise.
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After I had clamps on all four swivels, I tried screwing the light fixture back together. It's an easy job for a three-handed person so I resorted to my usual second hand -- the vise and a thin wrench to hold the swivel while I turned the nut on the inside of the fixture. I don't use those cheap thin wrenches very often but they are great for jobs like this.
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There you go, 20 years and a week of spare moments and I have a silent ceiling fan in my office.
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..........but the stupid fan and light fixture is peach color...........I'm pretty proud because I'm getting my Vieux on! I couldn't see a way to reproduce the bends on the new bar so...Not having much experience on this machine resulted in large weld with poor penetration...........It was no surprise when the weld failed so I resorted to option 2: buy new sockets on Amazon ($3.98 each)

Does that pink go better with your outfit or mine? :lol_hitti: Most of that kind of stuff is plated. Did you grind the plating off? Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. Nice recovery plan.
 

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What Dulux here calls "Florida pink". :headscrat

You just gave me a bit of deja vu Bob!

Colour aside, I was pottering around with pretty similar fixtures on Monday evening. Kids want study lamps and I refuse to spend what my wife had in mind on some new angle-poise lamps. I had replaced some of these old 3-way lamps a few years ago and currently being scavenged to make desk lamps out of them. Then realised I already have angle-poise lamps over some machines that are better suited for desk lamps. So while I clean those up for requisition to the house I am making some new machine lamp brackets for the scavenged light fixtures instead. Thus summing up my merry-go-round!
 

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What Dulux here calls "Florida pink". :headscrat

You just gave me a bit of deja vu Bob!

Colour aside, I was pottering around with pretty similar fixtures on Monday evening. Kids want study lamps and I refuse to spend what my wife had in mind on some new angle-poise lamps. I had replaced some of these old 3-way lamps a few years ago and currently being scavenged to make desk lamps out of them. Then realised I already have angle-poise lamps over some machines that are better suited for desk lamps. So while I clean those up for requisition to the house I am making some new machine lamp brackets for the scavenged light fixtures instead. Thus summing up my merry-go-round!

Cool! I wish I could find your thread...
 

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Cool! I wish I could find your thread...

My dog ate it. :sad:

Actually I think Lyndon is keeping score for us on how many times it's been inquired about. :lol_hitti

Last few months I've been spending all my spare time over weekends working outside on the front deck and entertainment area of the house. Just doesn't seem right to start a thread about "nothing to do with my workshop" :dunno:
 

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My dog ate it. :sad:

Actually I think Lyndon is keeping score for us on how many times it's been inquired about. :lol_hitti

Last few months I've been spending all my spare time over weekends working outside on the front deck and entertainment area of the house. Just doesn't seem right to start a thread about "nothing to do with my workshop" :dunno:

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti

Lyndon?
 
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Bob, you're learning from Vieux! Great job!!

That was a good welding job for your TIG rig.
Thanks Andy! The Professor is a patient and thoughtful person with an amazing eye for photography. I am proud to consider him a friend and mentor, even if it's just through the Internet tubes.
Bob ( aka Vieux ) done well..:thumbup::thumbup:

It is great to see that we have a little of Vieux in each of us.:bowdown:

Regards
Steve, it's funny that I look at every broken thing I come across a little differently. Before I throw it in the trash, I think "What would Vieux do?
Bob, looks good. Oops! Had to go back and put the comma in otherwise it read Bob looks good. :lol_hitti Now how much is your sanity worth?
Bobby, in ancient times, scribes didn't use punctuation or even spaces between words. Apparently paper was expensive and hard to come by. I appreciate the comma and I believe my sanity is worth a colon, OK, probably a semi-colon.
Does that pink go better with your outfit or mine? :lol_hitti: Most of that kind of stuff is plated. Did you grind the plating off? Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. Nice recovery plan.
Kirk, that's the same pink as my Utah arm and I was told that thing goes with everything!
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I thought it might have been plated and the swivel joints were brass and pot metal under the paint. The paint was a factory job because there was a clear UL sticker inside the light fixture and you could see the paint through it.
Bob, I think you can buy those L-shaped and threaded brackets. I believe they are called hickeys. Good job on MacGyvering!
Zeke, thanks for that and you are right, that is a hickey. Our anniversary is coming up so maybe I can give my wife one without getting smacked around. I was very Un-MacGyver buying the new sockets (with hickeys) and $4 seemed like a fair deal -- the wires are riveted to the socket.
What Dulux here calls "Florida pink". :headscrat

You just gave me a bit of deja vu Bob!

Colour aside, I was pottering around with pretty similar fixtures on Monday evening. Kids want study lamps and I refuse to spend what my wife had in mind on some new angle-poise lamps. I had replaced some of these old 3-way lamps a few years ago and currently being scavenged to make desk lamps out of them. Then realised I already have angle-poise lamps over some machines that are better suited for desk lamps. So while I clean those up for requisition to the house I am making some new machine lamp brackets for the scavenged light fixtures instead. Thus summing up my merry-go-round!
Guster, that's the curse/blessing of the GJ world: re-purpose something you already have. That or it's my big box store Agoraphobia.
Cool! I wish I could find your thread...
Andy, like New Zealand, it's well hidden.
My dog ate it. :sad:

Actually I think Lyndon is keeping score for us on how many times it's been inquired about. :lol_hitti

Last few months I've been spending all my spare time over weekends working outside on the front deck and entertainment area of the house. Just doesn't seem right to start a thread about "nothing to do with my workshop" :dunno:
Guster, I'm already having a hard time keeping up with all the great threads on here, yours would **** up the last little bit of free time I have left. If you think these "friends" of ours are cruel now, go ahead and start your own thread. Regret doesn't come close to describing the aftermath.
Andy, we should all be gentle with Lyndon right now. The pressure of finding a place Irene likes is tough but nothing compared to finding one that we all like.
 
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