trijeff
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Speaking of RR stands ... and word from the foundry VISEs?
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wrenchguy
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looks like we have similar taste in handles
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va.grouseman
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Just now turned on the computator, and man I can't believe all the iron you fellows have posted today.---Thanks a million fellows.---I needed my fix.---I was starting to get the shakes.---Mighty pretty iron.
FMC1959
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Bcom, check what 8" it is, assuming like already mentioned they don't mean the opening.
Columbians came in a 508/608, which are the ones that are hollowed out somewhat; they weigh about 150 to 170, not a lot for an 8". Although not loved by some, others think these are great.
The other 8" Columbian is the 108 or 108 1/2. These were referred to chipping vises and had a lot more meat on them. These were in the 265 or so pounds area.
I don't know what the market price is for 8" vises, these days it could be anything. Personally I would definitely push my budget if an 8" is available. Of course the heavier chipping vise would also make me spend more, but I would be happy even with the 508 or 608.
Hell, I would even be happy to get an 8" Record, which weighs less than 90 pounds with stationary base, but always relish the thought of getting a 250+ pound monster some day.
Good luck and don't lag too much, they usually disappear quickly...unless they are asking stupid money. Not that it means much but my opinion, in overall good condition, $400 or less is a good to great deal...jump on it or you won't see it again. The 508/608, I might go maybe $600 tops, the 108's, maybe $700-800 tops. But when your there, reason can go out the window.
Again, good luck.
va.grouseman
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Good post FMC.---('' Although not loved by some, others think these are great.'') is about as close a statement as you could make to describe the Columbian.---Well put FMC---Although hollower than most all other vises, Columbian boasts the Nodular type of cast in theirs, that is a lot more malleable than others.---Anyway, that's their claim to fame.---In fact it does brad before it will chip.---That said, I have seen a couple with a hole in the hollow of the tower.
I worked a STATIONARY 106 for over 30 years, till I wore the serration down to smooth faces.---Then got a bite on a 608 in good condition, and that's my user.---Won't tell what I paid for it cause there is no use.---You can't get one for that anymore unless you catch someone moving or your Joe.striper.
As far as me collecting, I'll go for a Reed every time and a host of other brands first, but the Columbians have proved to be good friends to me in the shop over the years..---Like FMC said, if you like them you like them, if you don't you don't.
I worked a STATIONARY 106 for over 30 years, till I wore the serration down to smooth faces.---Then got a bite on a 608 in good condition, and that's my user.---Won't tell what I paid for it cause there is no use.---You can't get one for that anymore unless you catch someone moving or your Joe.striper.
As far as me collecting, I'll go for a Reed every time and a host of other brands first, but the Columbians have proved to be good friends to me in the shop over the years..---Like FMC said, if you like them you like them, if you don't you don't.
Picked up a clean Parker 272 recently, but hadn't gotten around to posting pics. The swivel jaw is free, but snug. The pin appears original, and the jaws have some of the serrations left. I think it would be tough to find one in better condition. I'm trying to come up with a plan for it going forward since I'm not really a collector.
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Just a little eye candy.
That's what Im talking about!
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trijeff
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Honestly that's OK because it lets me fantasize about it a little longer ... I imagine they're going to come back with a price tag way bigger than my pocketbook. But it sure is nice to dream!!
jakemac
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Disappointing, but I can't blame the buyer for being upset. He ponied up a lot of money for a rare item. He purchased the right to enjoy that rarity.
Perhaps he had plans of his own to offer copies and didn't want to be undercut.
Perhaps he had plans of his own to offer copies and didn't want to be undercut.
wrenchguy
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the stand that came with my rigid above can't be that old, it should be available somewhere. anyone recognize it?
Pittsburgh Vise Catalog
So apparently there will be no copies made of the Pittsburgh vise catalog now since the ebay seller just told me this. Apparently the buyer whined too much about copies being made and the seller will no longer be making copies. So with that being said,its safe to say that the buyer is a big crybaby and is also a member of GJ.
The seller may have just told the buyer that no copies will be made until a certain time period has past in the where buyer cant renig on the auction. Copies might still be made.afterwards He has the copies as a pdf.
ritestuff
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The seller may have just told the buyer that no copies will be made until a certain time period has past in the where buyer cant renig on the auction. Copies might still be made.afterwards He has the copies as a pdf.
Quoted for preservation in case the buyer needs this somewhere down the road.
drivesitfar
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Jake: your comments are RIGHT ON!!
good to see you have access and time to post on this thread again. sorry to hear your attempt at making a REED MAGNET failed on it's first try. i've been perfecting mine for about 5 years now and i'm still not finding exactly what i want. even if i found it i'm not sure there are enough vise funds to buy everything i WANT which maybe is keeping my cash magnet from crashing my REED magnet.
Wrench: your Rigid stand almost looks like a gun mount maybe from a battleship or fort. I can't say i've seen one like that.
ALL: for some of you that want a nice vise stand some of the old HUGE 3 phase grinders had some cool cast iron stands that can be found.
good to see you have access and time to post on this thread again. sorry to hear your attempt at making a REED MAGNET failed on it's first try. i've been perfecting mine for about 5 years now and i'm still not finding exactly what i want. even if i found it i'm not sure there are enough vise funds to buy everything i WANT which maybe is keeping my cash magnet from crashing my REED magnet.
Wrench: your Rigid stand almost looks like a gun mount maybe from a battleship or fort. I can't say i've seen one like that.
ALL: for some of you that want a nice vise stand some of the old HUGE 3 phase grinders had some cool cast iron stands that can be found.
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Wrench: very interesting. speaking of HUGE GRINDER and CAST IRON tool stands do you have any pictures of yours or some of the ones you've seen cause you tend to see some pretty large stuff at you shows and where you shop?
Mark in Indiana
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All,
Here's a Parker 954-1/2 that I scored last night.
BTW: While I was looking for some information on the Parker vise, I noticed that Dayid's vise website was down.
http://scuttle.dayid.org/wiki/index.php/Charles_Parker_Vise
` Anyone know what happened?
` When will it be back in service?
Here's a Parker 954-1/2 that I scored last night.
BTW: While I was looking for some information on the Parker vise, I noticed that Dayid's vise website was down.
http://scuttle.dayid.org/wiki/index.php/Charles_Parker_Vise
` Anyone know what happened?
` When will it be back in service?
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kwoswalt99
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I don't know, it's been OOC for a few weeks now.
Mark in Indiana
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Concerning Dayid's website: It's been an invaluable resource for quick reference. I hope that it comes back on line soon.
drivesitfar
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Mark: Dayid is a member here and he posted on this thread maybe 2 or 3 months ago. maybe PM him and find out the skinny if you have some time. i think his user name is Dayid or Dayid's, but not certain and if anybody else knows him to ask please do. i know he used to let us post our pictures and information, but like any good thing some A hole posted up some **** so he had to turn our access off.
nice find on your Parker
nice find on your Parker
va.grouseman
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Mark, but the possibility exists that (dare I say it), he just got tired of fooling with it.
Mark in Indiana
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Drives, VA & All:
Just sent Dayid a PM asking about his site. I'll summarize his response here.
Drives: Thanks for the compliment on my Parker 954-1/2. Funny thing about that vise. Seeing the pictures on CL, there was some bubbled, flaking paint that, (I swear) looked like a braze repair at the bottom of the dynamic jaw body. Even that would have been fine because I could use some parts. When I saw the vise, it was fine. The seller & I came to an agreement on the price, making it a win-win.
Point is:
Buyers; Make sure to carefully look over the vise before you hand out the cash.
Sellers; Proof read your ad to show your product in the best light.
VA: Sorry I sound like I just fell off the turnip truck, but what does it take to fool with a site like Vise-Wiki?
All: I hope that everything is well with Dayid.
Just sent Dayid a PM asking about his site. I'll summarize his response here.
Drives: Thanks for the compliment on my Parker 954-1/2. Funny thing about that vise. Seeing the pictures on CL, there was some bubbled, flaking paint that, (I swear) looked like a braze repair at the bottom of the dynamic jaw body. Even that would have been fine because I could use some parts. When I saw the vise, it was fine. The seller & I came to an agreement on the price, making it a win-win.
Point is:
Buyers; Make sure to carefully look over the vise before you hand out the cash.
Sellers; Proof read your ad to show your product in the best light.
VA: Sorry I sound like I just fell off the turnip truck, but what does it take to fool with a site like Vise-Wiki?
All: I hope that everything is well with Dayid.
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va.grouseman
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Well Mark; I couldn't tell you a thing about maintaining a web-site, as I wouldn't have the faintest idea of even how to start one much less how much trouble it is to maintain.---And like Drive said, he was pretty flexible at one time until some got to messing with him, pissed him off and he had no recourse but to put up restrictions.---For all I know about cyber tactics, maybe some-one is still able to needle him.---There's always somebody that's more than willing to screw up a good thing for the masses.
va.grouseman
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VISEs, I believe you could post one a day for the next 2 years and we wouldn't see the same one twice.
kwoswalt99
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I've seen a lot of those, any idea who made them?
Define "seen lots of them"....I assume you mean in pictures as these 8" German vises are as hard to find as a Reed 8" vise.
I have looked and looked for the manufacturer of this vice and some of my others. But I have no idea... the only identifying marks are in these pictures.
Here is another one.
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Define "seen lots of them"....I assume you mean in pictures as these 8" German vises are as hard to find as a Reed 8" vise.
I have looked and looked for the manufacturer of this vice and some of my others. But I have no idea... the only identifying marks are in these pictures.
Here is another one.
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Ive used just the standard autotive rustoleum primer and them pained over top it but then i screwed up and had to put the vise back in a caustic dunk tank to remove the paint. The paint itself came off real easy but that primer stuck on there real good,even after being put in a hot caustic dunk tank for 3 days straight. Very tough stuff.
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What is this worth? I have been needing a vise for a while and don't want to get some harbor freight junk.. At my old shop we would use the vise sometimes for bearing into knuckle jobs..is the 3.5" jaw going to be a limiting factor? Thanks
American Red Seal vise
No. 62
3.5" Jaw
with
Swivel Base vise
American Red Seal vise
No. 62
3.5" Jaw
with
Swivel Base vise
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GETRIDAONE
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American Scale made nice vises and that one looks to be in really good condition. Price will vary quite a bit by location, and the local supply, but I'd say a reasonable price is something under $100. I've picked up very nice 3.5" Wilton bullets on a swivel base for $100 and most everything costs less than those on CL/eBay.
3.5" is on the small side for some things, but it's a really handy vise to have when you don't need something larger. The jump in size from 3.5" to 4" in the same model is usually pretty noticeable, and that's probably why 4" vises are really common. If you have room for a larger vise somewhere else the 3.5" might make a lot of sense. If you're going to be limited to just one vise, I'd probably want something a bit bigger for even normal home shop/auto work.
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Yep just any rustoleum off the shelf at walmart except for latex. Dont use latex spray paint.
We must be regional neighbors. I live about an hour west of that vise. That guy has some decent equipment cheap.
Mark in Indiana
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You could ask: How many purses, pairs of shoes, pairs of earrings do you own, honey?
But seriously, I wish I had a second woodworking vise for the other end of the workbench for long wood workpieces.
You could ask: How many purses, pairs of shoes, pairs of earrings do you own, honey?
But seriously, I wish I had a second woodworking vise for the other end of the workbench for long wood workpieces.
I like where your head is at...gonna need to write down that line for the next time I pick up a vise.
I just couldn't pass up a similarly patina'd wilton in great condition. I think it was built in '63 if the stamp on the back is a date code (W-9-63), can't remember what the code on the one already mounted is but both will only receive a simple green bath, light wire brush and a regreasing