The VISES of Garage Journal

[KMScott]

Can someone test this link and see if it works?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sHFRfY_DFXMz6bFeeYI7UKRpUd3aheAE86KBQRBGb9s/edit?usp=sharing

Should come up as an Excel Spreadsheet on Google docs with collected vise info. There are about 2200 entries and there should be filters at the top to select specifics....e.g....Prentiss, Stationary base, 6" jaw...etc.

It is a work in progress so there could be some errors, or many errors.

For now I just want to know if people have access and if it is functional.

Excellant Work FMC. If you need any info that I might have like Jaw spec:s then let me know. There is hours and hours of work done on this Spreadsheet and I appreciate what you have done. This will help me and everyone greatly.

 

[bluebolt]

Excellant Work FMC. If you need any info that I might have like Jaw spec:s then let me know. There is WEEKS and WEEKS of work done on this Spreadsheet and I appreciate what you have done. This will help me and everyone greatly.

Fixed it from my experience Kevin!

 

[blsnelling]

A blue/green/gray combination that is very hard to duplicate. I haven't seen anybody get even close. I have had vises from 1966 to 1973 with that color original paint and it's going to be very hard to match. It also looks very different in different lighting conditions, making it even harder to match.

I took one of the vises to a paint shop and four of us spent 45min trying to find something close. They scanned it without much luck and then tried a color wheel without much luck. In the end one guy just started trying combinations and got pretty close, but there's no formula for it to duplicate or share.

So these are from the "hospital green" era? I really hate to paint these that color, lol.

I've read that this is the closest match. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BZZ1KI/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[FMC1959]

Thanks everyone for the compliments...as well, thanks to everyone on this thread for the info. The majority comes from this thread, B100 also has been a great resource over the years, and Dayid also....then bits and pieces from everyone else.

Anyone wanting to contribute info or specs (Meatsis, KMS and others), gladly down the road, still have stuff to enter for now.

Jake, I have the link in my sig now, so it should never get buried 50+ pages back. Also, anyone can save a shortcut or download like you did for convenience.

 

[bluebolt]

It should be a sticky in my opinion!

 

[1NRO]

Thanks everyone for the compliments...as well, thanks to everyone on this thread for the info. The majority comes from this thread, B100 also has been a great resource over the years, and Dayid also....then bits and pieces from everyone else.

Anyone wanting to contribute info or specs (Meatsis, KMS and others), gladly down the road, still have stuff to enter for now.

Jake, I have the link in my sig now, so it should never get buried 50+ pages back. Also, anyone can save a shortcut or download like you did for convenience.

Over 2000 listed models, amazing.

 

[blsnelling]

What hardware is originally used to secure the pipe jaws in a Wilton C0?

Everything I can find online shows the newer style that clips in. Mine are secured by a bolt or pin that passes through the jaw and both sides of the vise body. Was a typical bolt/nut used or perhaps a pressed in pin?

 

[drivesitfar]

BLS: there are 3 types of Wilton C0 pipe jaws. the oldest ones have two large pins on each side. then next (I think) is a hex screw on one side. then the last generations have a spring or clip behind for sort of a relaxed fit that compresses when something is actually in the jaws, but they don't seem to fall out.

can you post up a picture of yours?

here's an older one i owned that is now on a local GJ member's workbench that has the screws from the sides. there are lots of Wilton C0's on this thread if you want to do a search.

 

[blsnelling]

BLS: there are 3 types of Wilton C0 pipe jaws. the oldest ones have two large pins on each side. then next (I think) is a hex screw on one side. then the last generations have a spring or clip behind for sort of a relaxed fit that compresses when something is actually in the jaws, but they don't seem to fall out.

can you post up a picture of yours?

here's an older one i owned that is now on a local GJ member's workbench that has the screws from the sides. there are lots of Wilton C0's on this thread if you want to do a search.

This one is from 1986.

 

[drivesitfar]

BLS: looks like a prior owner modified it. can you get the pins (or bolts) out? then you can see if the pipe jaws maybe were from an older version with 2 holes in them or maybe drilled through by the person that put in the bolts.

good luck

 

[72highboy]

1967

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[blsnelling]

BLS: looks like a prior owner modified it. can you get the pins (or bolts) out? then you can see if the pipe jaws maybe were from an older version with 2 holes in them or maybe drilled through by the person that put in the bolts.

good luck

They are out. It was a brass bolt with the threads turned down on all but one end and peened over on the other end. Yes, it went all the way through.

 

[drivesitfar]

BLS: can you post pictures of your C0 with the pipe jaws out of it and also the pipe jaws? i'm still thinking it's a prior owner's modification.

 

[zoomieport]

WRENCHGUY (MIKE), came through in Excellent fashion today, what a GENTLEMAN!!

The WILTON 800 will be on eBay soon, I think you guys are going to dig it, its 99% "ready to paint"!

Thanks again Mike (WRENCHGUY) and all of the rest of you that have helped me on my "quest" to raise money for CHILDHOOD CANCER research!

You guys are AWESOME!

Thank you GENTLEMEN!
Mike Dillon

I CAN'T WAIT TO BE BALD!

https://www.stbaldricks.org/participants/mypage/883781/2017

 

[wrenchguy]

no, thank u for what ur doing! i hope it brings a ton as drive it says. good luck.

 

[RG Rude]

WRENCHGUY (MIKE), came through in Excellent fashion today, what a GENTLEMAN!!

The WILTON 800 will be on eBay soon, I think you guys are going to dig it, its 99% "ready to paint"!

Thanks again Mike (WRENCHGUY) and all of the rest of you that have helped me on my "quest" to raise money for CHILDHOOD CANCER research!

You guys are AWESOME!

Thank you GENTLEMEN!
Mike Dillon

I CAN'T WAIT TO BE BALD!

https://www.stbaldricks.org/participants/mypage/883781/2017

If it's allowed can you post the link to FleaBay when you put it up?

 

[zoomieport]

If it's allowed can you post the link to FleaBay when you put it up?

Will do for sure, IT'S A SOLID BEAST!

 

[stretch1947]

Before the "resto"

After.

Best $35 dollar vise ever. Columbian 204 1/2.

I have a solid bronze vise that is the same make and model as your vise. My garage is located at another property- so I will have to get a picture to post. I will try to make a long story short. In 1962 when I was a teenager, I lived on a barrier island and I found this vise in the street. it was the only thing left of a home that had recently been sucked into the ocean by a violent storm. Even as a teen I knew I had something special. Being made out of bronze - there was and never has been a trace of corrosion. If anybody knows about the value - I am real interested- but not to sell!

 

[blsnelling]

BLS: looks like a prior owner modified it. can you get the pins (or bolts) out? then you can see if the pipe jaws maybe were from an older version with 2 holes in them or maybe drilled through by the person that put in the bolts.

good luck

BLS: can you post pictures of your C0 with the pipe jaws out of it and also the pipe jaws? i'm still thinking it's a prior owner's modification.

Here it is almost complete.

Here are the holes for the pins. They're a "loose" 5/16".

Here are the jaws. The holes look to be unmodded to me.

 

[drivesitfar]

BLS: they look modified to me and i'm not the WILTON EXPERT on all their little changes, but i've seen thousands of these Wilton bullets (I think i still own 2 or 3 C0's too) and your one hole through pipe jaw and pin is the first one i've seen. i'm still thinking modification, but at least it doesn't look too terrible.

did i miss what date stamp you said was on the slide?

i'm sure some of the handy guys that work on these Wiltons in their sleep and flip them might help you with a solution. i'd say find a touch bigger pin and use them instead of the old bolt, but we do have more than a few machinists on this thread that might have a better idea.

you might mention how many tools you have available and how handy you are if you want to that might help with the fixes that you are able to do.

good luck and nice work so far. and GREAT PICTURES so thank you

 

[Yingpin]

So I am new here and have been slowly working on my garage since I moved in last November. It has been slow but this year I am getting after it. Picked this up locally for $40 and it looks to be in good shape. Would love to refinish it like some of the ones here.



Chas Parker No. 973. Not sure what year it is but will try to look it up.

Looks like it is complete, picked it up today and I think it is a good piece.


Any idea on the approximate year of this Parker?

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[blsnelling]

BLS: they look modified to me and i'm not the WILTON EXPERT on all their little changes, but i've seen thousands of these Wilton bullets (I think i still own 2 or 3 C0's too) and your one hole through pipe jaw and pin is the first one i've seen. i'm still thinking modification, but at least it doesn't look too terrible.

did i miss what date stamp you said was on the slide?

i'm sure some of the handy guys that work on these Wiltons in their sleep and flip them might help you with a solution. i'd say find a touch bigger pin and use them instead of the old bolt, but we do have more than a few machinists on this thread that might have a better idea.

you might mention how many tools you have available and how handy you are if you want to that might help with the fixes that you are able to do.

good luck and nice work so far. and GREAT PICTURES so thank you

Well, I'm certainly NOT the expert here, lol.

I do have a small machine lathe. I already drilled and tapped the holes for the vise nut housing pins. I've ordered 1" long set screws and will turn them down to 3/16" on the end that goes into the vise nut.

I was considering doing the same for the pipe jaw pins. I could also take a single long piece of round stock, turn it to size, and knurl one end. Thoughts?

 

[drivesitfar]

BLS: I don't think i've ever seen a pin on a Wilton or Reed with knurling so just turning to a tight fit might just be the ticket.

good luck

 

[blsnelling]

BLS: I don't think i've ever seen a pin on a Wilton or Reed with knurling so just turning to a tight fit might just be the ticket.

good luck

I appreciate your advise.

 

[drivesitfar]

BLS: you are welcome and good luck

Ying: your Parker's patent date looks like 1880's so guessing late 1800's or very early 1900's made. and in great shape for being that old too.

welcome to the forum and to the vise thread!!

 

[S4cruiser]

Got a lead on this little guy...fingers crossed I get it! 160 bucs

 

[RG Rude]

Got a lead on this little guy...fingers crossed I get it! 160 bucs

Good luck. That would be a mega bonus. That is a big one!!

 

[zoomieport]

Looks like it is complete, picked it up today and I think it is a good piece.


Any idea on the approximate year of this Parker?

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That's original paint. Well Done.
ZOOM

 

[KMScott]

blsnelling, those are the correct pipe jaws and Wilton used a custom round head 5/16 pin with a knurled opposite end that presses into the vise. They also made a double pin set. You can use a C-Clip like I did on this C1 restore. I forged the head from a long bolt. Remember the pipe jaws should be loose and wiggle around to locate on a pipe, it is hard for the casting company's to accurately locate the pocket locations. The C0 pipe jaw has a .360 hole through it and the pin used is a 5/16 pin (.312). Good luck.

 

[kwoswalt99]

Got a lead on this little guy...fingers crossed I get it! 160 bucs

You better have a fast car... the police will be after you.

 

[zoomieport]

blsnelling, those are the correct pipe jaws and Wilton used a custom round head 5/16 pin with a knurled opposite end that presses into the vise. They also made a double pin set. You can use a C-Clip like I did on this C1 restore. I forged the head from a long bolt. Remember the pipe jaws should be loose and wiggle around to locate on a pipe, it is hard for the casting company's to accurately locate the pocket locations. The C0 pipe jaw has a .360 hole through it and the pin used is a 5/16 pin (.312). Good luck.

That is exactly what I was going to say, Kevin!

 

[zoomieport]

That is exactly what I was going to say, Kevin!

You're a good man to know...

 

[zoomieport]

Anyone spot the "Unicorn" on the BAY?

 

[FMC1959]

Got a lead on this little guy...fingers crossed I get it! 160 bucs

That would be a steal if you get it, good luck

 

[blsnelling]

blsnelling, those are the correct pipe jaws and Wilton used a custom round head 5/16 pin with a knurled opposite end that presses into the vise. They also made a double pin set. You can use a C-Clip like I did on this C1 restore. I forged the head from a long bolt. Remember the pipe jaws should be loose and wiggle around to locate on a pipe, it is hard for the casting company's to accurately locate the pocket locations. The C0 pipe jaw has a .360 hole through it and the pin used is a 5/16 pin (.312). Good luck.

Fantastic. That's great news. Thank you!

 

[rusty65]

Anyone spot the "Unicorn" on the BAY?

This one?


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[zoomieport]

This one?


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No, that ain't the one...

 

[va.grouseman]

I have a solid bronze vise that is the same make and model as your vise. My garage is located at another property- so I will have to get a picture to post. I will try to make a long story short. In 1962 when I was a teenager, I lived on a barrier island and I found this vise in the street. it was the only thing left of a home that had recently been sucked into the ocean by a violent storm. Even as a teen I knew I had something special. Being made out of bronze - there was and never has been a trace of corrosion. If anybody knows about the value - I am real interested- but not to sell!

That would be the third 204 1/2'' Bronze Columbian I've seen once I've seen it.---It seems that Columbian only made 4 1/2'' bronze vises, at least until I see one bigger.---They were made for mine sweeper ships during WW11.---They are designed for zero sparks during operations.---It appears they are pretty rare.---You finding it close to the ocean 55 years ago sounds about right.---Probably came off a decommissioned ship after the war.---We need many pics.---You would do well to keep it, but it's money in the bank if you decide to sell.---Here's some before and after's.

 

[trijeff]

Anyone spot the "Unicorn" on the BAY?

The Studebaker?

 

[va.grouseman]

This one?


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Now that is a real novel altercation.---A real conversation piece.