Craftsman table saw... Vintage???

[thanhlybanghe]

Hey, I am new to this and I need help. I have a Craftsman 113 tablesaw. The blade binds up when I am ripping anything over 12" long. As I inspected my saw, it appears that the blade is not square to the table. It is about 2 millimeters out of square. The back edge of the blade is about 2mm farther to the right than the front. I cleaned out the groove that houses the blade angle guide but that did not help. Does anyone know how to get the blade back square to the table? Thanks. K

 

[exmaxima1]

Hey, I am new to this and I need help. I have a Craftsman 113 tablesaw. The blade binds up when I am ripping anything over 12" long. As I inspected my saw, it appears that the blade is not square to the table. It is about 2 millimeters out of square. The back edge of the blade is about 2mm farther to the right than the front. I cleaned out the groove that houses the blade angle guide but that did not help. Does anyone know how to get the blade back square to the table? Thanks. K

Have you tried loosening the trunnions and adjusting them?

 

[Countryhog]

Have, and love, an old craftsman saw. Suspect it’s 50s vintage but can’t find model no. anywhere. My motor, which I suspect is not the original, gave up the ghost today. I obviously need help. Would post pix kid I knew what the URL location is

Thanks for any help

 

[JoCoSawdust]

There should be a data plate on the outfeed side of the saw body. I think you need 5 posts on here in order to please the picture gods and be allowed to post.

 

[Countryhog]

I finally found it. 113.27610. Could really use a users manual if anyone has one. Like to replace the motor with original model. Thanks for assist

 

[Rileysan]

I finally found it. 113.27610. Could really use a users manual if anyone has one. Like to replace the motor with original model. Thanks for assist

Check here for digitized manuals.

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=222&tab=3

 

[Countryhog]

Thanks much Riley.

 

[Shiftless]

I finally found it. 113.27610. Could really use a users manual if anyone has one. Like to replace the motor with original model. Thanks for assist

If you find an old motor, it might not be much better than the one that just failed. Look for a motor repair shop and spend some $$$ if originality and useability is important to you. I have an old 113. saw myself that I inherited from my FIL who bought it new back in the early ‘50’s.

 

[Countryhog]

Unfortunately the motor that gave out is a WEG, 2hp, 22a, and not the original. I’m guessing the original was a 1 or 1.5 hp drawing 15 amps. So I’m in a pickle. Don’t wanna spend $$$$$ on that motor, though I may still do so. Thanks for input

 

[Countryhog]

Shiftless, If you don’t mind, What are the specs on your 113 motor? Model, Rpm, amperage, etc?

 

[Shiftless]

Shiftless, If you don’t mind, What are the specs on your 113 motor? Model, Rpm, amperage, etc?

Here you go

 

[Countryhog]

Thanks

 

[quartermeter]

Munsk,

If you have that number accurate, 113.22452, you have the exact same model # as mine:



$200 will be cheaper than mine after I picked up a motor mount and motor for it. Did yours come with a belt guard? If so, I'd give ya $50 for it

These saws were introduced in 1954 under King Seeley manufacture (code # 103.2xxxx) then were made by Emerson which denotes the 113 code. Production ended around 1966 or thereabouts. Given that yours is an Emerson (like mine) it was probably made in the 1960s. Did yours come with the original blade guard? If so, those are worth their weight in gold and you could probably recoup half the cost of the saw.

This saw is going to be my 'mainstay' 10" saw in the garage. Everything I have heard about these saws from owners of them is that they are an absolutely fantastic, well-built saw. The guts are mounted to the underside of the table, which while it makes alignment a little tough, it really is the most accurate and vibration-free design when you think about it, engineering wise. The trunnions are solid cast iron and the saw really has no deficiencies. Most report that the saw very easily cuts glass smooth.

Need some pictures!!!!!!!

Im confused. You say 113.** issame saw as you. But you show a 103.** KS saw. Which do you have?

 

[fdmorgan51]

I'm afraid I don''t agree, quality work can indeed be done on that saw.
What is the matter with this chimney cupboard I did using this saw?

Also an Emerson manufactured CMan saw, more like mine will have cheap plastic handwheels, not the heavy duty metal ones shown on Red Leaders saw.

You need to go get it if you think you want it IMO it won't last long.

 

[fdmorgan51]

How old is a Craftsman table saw model # 113 22452? It looks old to me, like 70'sish. Its $200 on craigslist montana. Good deal?
Thanks.
Munsk.

I just picked up a three horse single phase from 1972 was brand new when he bought it for 400 bucks within a hundred miles of my location. I wouldn't take a powermatic over it! This thing runs as sweet as it did today it was new.

 

[AntiqueBen]

I got lucky & found a Craftsman 113 10" table saw made by Emerson Electric Company for $15. I couldn't pass it up. I'll post more pics once I get it cleaned up. Motor runs great too. I'm just missing the miter gauge & blade guard. I already found & ordered these original parts online.

I read online that Craftsman advertised as early as 1948 the Emerson 113 table saw. I also read the first two numbers of the serial number is the year it was manufactured. The badge on my 113 doesn't have a advertised serial #, but there are some stamped numbers on the plate next to the model number. It's stamped 455. 1945?? Anyone know what this stamped 455 stands for?

 

[AntiqueBen]

This is why I was wandering if my 113 could be from the 1940's based on what Vintage Machinery says on their Emerson Electric Company page (pic below). They say "most" of these tools were made by King Sealey at this time. This would imply some Emerson's was made in the late 40's during the same time King Sealey was making "most" of them for Craftsman according to what Vintage Machinery is saying. They are also saying the 1948 Sears Tool catalog calls them Emerson saws.
Does this make sense to anyone?

 

[AntiqueBen]

I found the original miter gauge online for my Craftsman 113. It cleaned up nice. The Craftsman logo & all the numbers still have the original blue paint. Also has original bolts. I noticed not all the miter gauges like this one has the underlined Craftsman logo on it. Does this help date this tool?

Edit: That's right. The underlined C Craftsman logo was basically from 1934-44.