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Thanks for the update Bob. The phone/tablet holder came out great. Especially with the tung oil on it. Good luck on finding your electrical gremlin.

I need to build one of those timer outlets for my shop air cleaner so I don't have to remember to go out at bedtime and shut it off.

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Bob, you have done well.:thumbup:

Neat and tidy...:thumbup:
Thank you Steve, I have to get in gear and catch up with all the little jobs that are piling up. They take so little time to do but require so much startup and shutdown time
STREWTH !! No small wonder you don't have a problem with Alligators in your pool , my best guess is they have heard rumours about the Local Anaconda :shocking:

... and I thank you for your kind thoughts
Greg, I'm more worried about the small mouth bass going after the worm.
Thanks for the update Bob. The phone/tablet holder came out great. Especially with the tung oil on it. Good luck on finding your electrical gremlin.

I need to build one of those timer outlets for my shop air cleaner so I don't have to remember to go out at bedtime and shut it off.

Bret
Bret, thanks for the encouragement. It wasn't raining today so I did a little yard work. I really hope that dead outlet I found is the source.

The way my memory is changing (Baker Act makes it dangerous to call it "failing") I am going to need a few more myself. If she hadn't started barking, there's a good chance the dog would have spent the other night in the yard because I got distracted after I let her out. Good thing I heard her first or I would have spent the night out there.
Nice job on the repairs. I like your timer idea, and I really need to incorporate that too.:thumbup:
Hi Andy and thanks for stopping by.

The way my memory is changing (Baker Act makes it dangerous to call it "failing") I am going to need a few more myself. If she hadn't started barking, there's a good chance the dog would have spent the other night in the yard because I got distracted after I let her out. Good thing I heard her first or I would have spent the night out there.
John, I'm going to have to put that on my wish list. Looks a lot better than the one's I am using.
And, where did you get the timer ? Link ? Thank you.
John, I found it on Amazon for a whole lot less than the GE it replaced.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001XCWLVU/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 
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A year ago I took this photo of the Cuban Coconut Palm in our back yard just in front of the workshop. I was trying to stabilize it with ropes and stakes because it was very wobbly. Over the past 12 months I added more stakes and ropes and thought it was getting stronger and the roots getting established.
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I was optimistic because the palm has doubled in height. With the rainstorms we've been having the past week, the stake (a pick axe handle) snapped off and the tree leaned toward the shop. Because it is big enough to cause damage, I gave it the stability test -- I give it a push. I was able to push the tree several degrees with very little effort. I decided to cut it down before it gets any larger so in the heat and humidity of mid-day I cut off the fronds and then went to work on the trunk. I had to wait for the Inspector General to come out and supervise so I wouldn't damage any decorations, pots or plants. Three hours and a gallon of sweat later and this was the little pile of yard trimmings. The little stump was far too heavy for me to lift so the hand truck came out to help me get it to the end of the driveway.
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The tallest fronds were more than 20 feet tall and this was the root system trying to hold it in place. Probably less than a square foot and all of the roots went straight down perhaps a foot into the sand. No bueno! :scared:
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I'm probably wrong but I thought I heard a hiss of steam when I went in the pool. I know my hair dried very fast.
 

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Rather take my chances with the bass than Candiru... hehe. Bob is probably far enough south to know the rumours about that one. :)

Looking at that palm base it doesn't seem to have taken. Their root bases are quite something to clean up when they've established themselves. Done well performance managing that one. :)
 

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I would have left it well enough alone but because of Lyndon, Bret and a host of others on the GJ, I had to coat the project with some Tung Oil.
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Bob

I only do it now after copping a pissling from others on here about something I posted....

Sorry.

Also, great work on the palm. It certainly looked like a disaster waiting to happen with that small a root system. No wonder your hair sizzled when you went for a swim.... :D :rocker: :D

Lyndon
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Sir,
Were you to welcome Greg, sans speedos,you can rest assured that your "furniture" will be well and truly uncovered. :lol:

Shame you couldn't save the palm tree.

Typed with my eyes closed
Steve.
Steve, I wore speedos in my water skiing days because the boxers acted like parachutes and tended to slip off. With no way to pull it back up, it was a dangerous situation -- the boat's driver was laughing so hard he couldn't see where he was going.
Bob, I don't like loosing trees like that what a shame.

You put so much nurturing in to them...

What are you replacing it with??

Regards
To both Steves, thank you for following along and I do feel bad when we lose a tree. Unfortunately we have lost quite a few of them over the years.
John, I found it on Amazon for a whole lot less than the GE it replaced.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Thank you, sir.

( I think I've mentioned that I have a cousin in Boca. Her sister just moved from LI to Delray Beach and I'm told I'll be visiting both of them in the winter.)
John, please be sure to let me know if we can get together while you are down. I'm in the phone book (oh wait, you have no way to get access to one :headscrat). Just PM me when you know the dates (I can PM my number now but I don't answer calls with no CID or far away area codes).
Bob the logger!!:thumbup:

Bob was not harmed in the tree removal.:bounce:
Andy, you should see me with a chainsaw. I wish I could say the palm tree was not harmed. :(
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Stewart, at least I know it worked at least twice....
Rather take my chances with the bass than Candiru... hehe. Bob is probably far enough south to know the rumours about that one. :)

Looking at that palm base it doesn't seem to have taken. Their root bases are quite something to clean up when they've established themselves. Done well performance managing that one. :)
Guster, I rarely lose sleep but I expect to have a restless night tonight.

I have removed my fair share of healthy ones and if they are healthy it's a real job.
Bob

I only do it now after copping a pissling from others on here about something I posted....

Sorry.

Also, great work on the palm. It certainly looked like a disaster waiting to happen with that small a root system. No wonder your hair sizzled when you went for a swim.... :D :rocker: :D

Lyndon
Back at the work desk. :( :(
Lyndon, wonderful to have you stop by. No need to be sorry! It's one of the great side effects of the GJ that we step up our game.
 

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I read the part about the Speedos and it made me laugh. We were in Las Vegas last week and a guy walked through our hotel from the pool wearing a T-shirt and carrying his trunks. My wife said that day we didn't even have to hit the strip to see a little ******.
 

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Steve, I wore speedos in my water skiing days because the boxers acted like parachutes and tended to slip off. With no way to pull it back up, it was a dangerous situation -- the boat's driver was laughing so hard he couldn't see where he was going.

:lol::lol::lol: that's funny.
It's not often you see the full moon , mid-day.
Did you look like this:scared: or this:shocking:
Colonic irrigation, anyone.

Regards
Steve.

Can I apologise , I cant remember what the topic was, but I think we're wayyyy off it. I'll stop now.
Have a nice day
 

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:lol::lol::lol: that's funny.
It's not often you see the full moon , mid-day.
Did you look like this:scared: or this:shocking:
Colonic irrigation, anyone.

Regards
Steve.

Can I apologise , I cant remember what the topic was, but I think we're wayyyy off it. I'll stop now.
Have a nice day

Last I saw we were discussing Florida wildlife with Bob being ever-so-humble despite the street vibe from the extremely scared local alligators, spurious references to small mouth bass ( note: well that did break me up ) . Fortunately Bob used his chainsaw on the smaller log. The small mouth Bass was just a rumour. The worm can be seen in the photo of the palm treee roots if you look carefully. I guess you are now up-to-date ?? Gotta pay attention here my friend, fast pace and all.... :beer: :thumbup: :lol_hitti
 

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Last I saw we were discussing Florida wildlife with Bob being ever-so-humble despite the street vibe from the extremely scared local alligators, spurious references to small mouth bass ( note: well that did break me up ) . Fortunately Bob used his chainsaw on the smaller log. The small mouth Bass was just a rumour. The worm can be seen in the photo of the palm treee roots if you look carefully. I guess you are now up-to-date ?? Gotta pay attention here my friend, fast pace and all.... :beer: :thumbup: :lol_hitti

I can't afford to pay attention like you do:sad:

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Bob

Better to have a fine smallmouth bass that likes your worm than a school of bitchy largemouth bass that want more, more, more......
So how's the Sheetrock install going.


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Colonic irrigation, anyone.

Reminds me of going water-skiing with school friends. One of them, a lovely but rather uptight girl. Moreso than any practical sense at least. Offered her a wetsuit, making light of water getting up places where it shouldn't. Not really wanting to go into detail about the consequences of high pressure hydraulics on the tender female anatomy I didn't know much about at the time. Mind you the wetsuits had their normal wetlocker aroma which didn't help make our case. The staunch lass insisted she'll be fine in her two-piece as long as she has her lifejacket. We let her go given her claims of having done this before.

Sure enough she managed to get up on two skis without too much effort. Though it was a rather busy day on the dam and the lass took a spectacular spill when we crossed some wake lines of another boat. I was sitting on the transom keeping rope clear of the outboard as we went round to fetch her I could tell she was not very comfortable with the whole new experience and won't forget her face... it was both :scared: and :shocking: and :eyecrazy: At least I let her have her dignity with a towel and a sly wink that hinted at 'told you so'!

Strangely enough the word quietly got around as the other girls opted for smelly wetsuits after that. :lol:

I think that was the same day my friend let the pretty girl drive the boat taking the wrong side passing another boat, right through the reed bank. I was the one on the rope and didn't have much time or room. Let go and veer out. I was just finding my wits on a wakeboard at the time and had a hard stop in the reeds when I caught a front side edge cracking some ribs in the process. Made it very hard to laugh about it at the time.

Funny how misery finds good company as the princess and I ended up big friends over a few beers later that day. :beer:

Bob

Better to have a fine smallmouth bass that likes your worm than a school of bitchy largemouth bass that want more, more, more......

Too true! :thumbup:
 
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I read the part about the Speedos and it made me laugh. We were in Las Vegas last week and a guy walked through our hotel from the pool wearing a T-shirt and carrying his trunks. My wife said that day we didn't even have to hit the strip to see a little ******.
Kenny, that's one of the reasons my wife and I don't go to the beach anymore.
That is so very , very clever.... seamless segue from large snake to large log , risk of random chainsaw injury if you mistake the palm tree for "your log"...
Andy you're gonna give me a heart attack one day !
Greg, I have to agree and my vote is to nickname him Clever Andy.
:lol::lol::lol: that's funny.
It's not often you see the full moon , mid-day.
Did you look like this:scared: or this:shocking:
Colonic irrigation, anyone.

Regards
Steve.

Can I apologise , I cant remember what the topic was, but I think we're wayyyy off it. I'll stop now.
Have a nice day
Steve, I was momentarily embarrassed but my ride was going so well I just waited until my arm got tired -- as long as the skis stayed on, my trunks weren't going anywhere.

I prefer to be unconscious whenever my colon is involved in anything but evacuation.
Last I saw we were discussing Florida wildlife with Bob being ever-so-humble despite the street vibe from the extremely scared local alligators, spurious references to small mouth bass ( note: well that did break me up ) . Fortunately Bob used his chainsaw on the smaller log. The small mouth Bass was just a rumour. The worm can be seen in the photo of the palm treee roots if you look carefully. I guess you are now up-to-date ?? Gotta pay attention here my friend, fast pace and all.... :beer: :thumbup: :lol_hitti
Greg, I think the pace of my posts has slowed significantly since we passed through the worm hole.
I can't afford to pay attention like you do:sad:

:bowdown:
Andy, I made so little money when we were first married that we couldn't even afford to pay attention. Now that we have more money, my attention span has . . . . .
Bob

Better to have a fine smallmouth bass that likes your worm than a school of bitchy largemouth bass that want more, more, more......
So how's the Sheetrock install going.


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Stewart, are we still talking about fish?
Reminds me of going water-skiing with school friends. One of them, a lovely but rather uptight girl. Moreso than any practical sense at least. Offered her a wetsuit, making light of water getting up places where it shouldn't. Not really wanting to go into detail about the consequences of high pressure hydraulics on the tender female anatomy I didn't know much about at the time. Mind you the wetsuits had their normal wetlocker aroma which didn't help make our case. The staunch lass insisted she'll be fine in her two-piece as long as she has her lifejacket. We let her go given her claims of having done this before.

Sure enough she managed to get up on two skis without too much effort. Though it was a rather busy day on the dam and the lass took a spectacular spill when we crossed some wake lines of another boat. I was sitting on the transom keeping rope clear of the outboard as we went round to fetch her I could tell she was not very comfortable with the whole new experience and won't forget her face... it was both :scared: and :shocking: and :eyecrazy: At least I let her have her dignity with a towel and a sly wink that hinted at 'told you so'!

Strangely enough the word quietly got around as the other girls opted for smelly wetsuits after that. :lol:

I think that was the same day my friend let the pretty girl drive the boat taking the wrong side passing another boat, right through the reed bank. I was the one on the rope and didn't have much time or room. Let go and veer out. I was just finding my wits on a wakeboard at the time and had a hard stop in the reeds when I caught a front side edge cracking some ribs in the process. Made it very hard to laugh about it at the time.

Funny how misery finds good company as the princess and I ended up big friends over a few beers later that day. :beer:



Too true! :thumbup:
Guster, more than one female friend gave up water skiing after a fall.
 
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I've actually accomplished a few things. I fixed the wiring problem and I made it to Home Depot between the downpours.

I opened up the dead outlet on the patio to check the wiring. I replaced this outlet many years ago and used a commercial grade one. I also attached the wiring with the screws (it doesn't even have the push connectors). I did find quite a bit of ant nest material in the box so I vacuumed it out. The outlet is in perfect shape except for some light oxidation. I am sure this outlet is not the problem. My 1940s Star Fuse Co. fuse puller and tester still works but it doesn't indicate faulty wiring (reverse polarity/ground etc.) like my fancy new one.
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To eliminate the possibility of an internal problem, I connected the wires and moved on to the next outlet.
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With the power back on, I plugged the tester into the next outlet in the circuit and the power lights flickered on and off several times. When I turned the power off and pulled the outlet, I see that it is connected using the push connectors.
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I did a quick test by removing the outlet and connecting the wires like the previous outlet. The outside lights are working and nothing is flickering. Shut the power off and replaced the outlet with another commercial unit with the wiring connected with the screws. New weather covers on the patio outlets and we're back in business.
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Bob, well done on the electrical.:thumbup:

I hate gremlins like that.....:shocking:

Electricals in your neck of the woods really fascinate me as they are just so different. We don't use solid cables, just multi stranded. All our cables including the earth are insulated and your fittings are just way different..

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Apologies for hijacking your thread but I just had to..

Have a great day..:thumbup:
 
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I don't have a vehicle capable of transporting 4'x8' panels so I usually rent something when I need to get multiple sheets of material home. The laundry repair needs a single sheet of drywall but it doesn't need to be a whole piece. Once the seats are removed, the little PT Cruiser has a decent size space.
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I brought my drywall T-square with me to Home Depot and cut the 4'x8' sheet into three pieces -- two 48"x42" and the leftover piece. The 42" dimension fit perfectly into the PT.
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I decided to fill the voids around the window with foam. They have a new spout on the foam injector and I didn't really figure it out. Oh well, the multi-tool is perfect for cutting foam as well as all the other stuff.
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I decided to remove the baseboard and strip of old drywall so the new drywall could be better secured at the bottom. I used the multi-tool to slice both ends of the baseboard at an angle so it would be captured when I put it back in place (a little caulk and the cuts should be invisible.
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Rather than coat the laundry room with drywall dust, I made all the cuts outside, in the shade. It was in the 90s in the shade but closer to 200 in the sun.
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The lower piece went in with no problem. OK, only one small problem. I measured at least five times before I cut the notch in the drywall so it would go around the window. The final size for the piece needed to be 41 inches and I had cut it oversize (42") so leaving 3" tabs on both sides would fit perfectly -- NOT. The piece needed to be cut to the right width and then 3" tabs would be perfect. If I had measured all the cuts relative to one side or the other it would have been obvious but I was having a senior moment.

When I cut the piece for over the window, it fit fine but stuck out from the wall on the right by almost a half inch. That bow in the wood has come back to bite me. In addition to the bow, my decision to attach the hurricane strap with Kreg screws just exaggerated the problem. I removed the Kreg screws and replaced them with Simpson screws that have flatter heads. This helped but it was still too far out to blend with compound. I decided to embed the hurricane ******** the right side. Used the strap to guide the multi-tool to cut the wood, moved the strap out of the way and chiseled out the wood.
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Re-installed the strap with the Simpson screws and the drywall fit much better. I thought I could finish the job in one session but cutting the notch with a chisel was very time-consuming (chisel AND hammer goes much faster as I recall).
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I installed the drywall over the window, cleaned up the mess and quit for the day. Fitting the drywall on the sides of the window opening should go fairly fast. Then it's just corner bead, tape and compound. Then I can make a monumental dusty mess filling and sanding.
 

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Bob, well done on the electrical.:thumbup:

I hate gremlins like that.....:shocking:

Electricals in your neck of the woods really fascinate me as they are just so different. We don't use solid cables, just multi stranded. All our cables including the earth are insulated and your fittings are just way different..

Apologies for hijacking your thread but I just had to..

Have a great day..:thumbup:
Steve, thanks for that! I really liked the outlets in our Manly apartment, especially the ones with switch control. I was shocked when I lived down under that I wasn't allowed to play with the electrical in our unit. I was going to surface-mount a couple of extra outlets in the garage but was warned that I was breaking the law doing it myself. I didn't push it because my tolerance for 220v power passing through my body is quite low.
 

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I don't have a vehicle capable of transporting 4'x8' panels so I usually rent something when I need to get multiple sheets of material home. The laundry repair needs a single sheet of drywall but it doesn't need to be a whole piece. Once the seats are removed, the little PT Cruiser has a decent size space.
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Bob, you need one of these little Berlingo vans......

Like the PT Cruiser, they are so much more versatile than people realise.






Thank you so much for your contribution to the Charity Cycling Challenge I am participating in. As I mentioned elsewhere, every cent or penny collected means it's one less to worry about.

I was showing Katy the website of the charity when I saw your name on the home site. I had not realised you could comment on the "Together for short Lives" home page as well.


https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/GeneralMedicineTriathlon2017






Right, off to a bootfair now and then have to go take a ride again....... I am so unfit. :D
 

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Bob, those twist electrical connectors always make me cringe when I see them on the renovation shows. Do they actually do a secure fit ?

1/2 Cup has pictured my favourite Clipsal 2000 series. :thumbup:

Wall repair looks good. They are always fiddly for some reason.

Cheers GB
 

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Bob, those twist electrical connectors always make me cringe when I see them on the renovation shows. Do they actually do a secure fit ?

1/2 Cup has pictured my favourite Clipsal 2000 series. :thumbup:

Wall repair looks good. They are always fiddly for some reason.

Cheers GB

Wire nuts, as they are called, give pretty good service if installed tightly. They are used all over over here. Quick and secure but when joining three or more wires one must be careful to get all wires in tightly. Of course Bob was just using them for a temporary connection there.

Great work Bob. Apparently one handed chisel users appreciate a sharp chisel. Relieving for the hurricane strap was good cabinetry:thumbup::thumbup:
 

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Bob, those twist electrical connectors always make me cringe when I see them on the renovation shows. Do they actually do a secure fit ?

1/2 Cup has pictured my favourite Clipsal 2000 series. :thumbup:

Wall repair looks good. They are always fiddly for some reason.

Cheers GB

GB:

I second you on the wall repair looking good.

The wire nuts do make a secure connection on solid wire if they are sized right and installed correctly (ie: proper size, no exposed wire, wire cut same length and twisted tight). They also work great for a temporary cover to exposed wires in renovation work to keep from getting a shock. There are some cheap ones that typically come with light fixtures and so forth which do not have the spring steel insert and they are not worth the plastic they came from. Those get thrown out without a second glance.
 

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Bob, those twist electrical connectors always make me cringe when I see them on the renovation shows. Do they actually do a secure fit ?

1/2 Cup has pictured my favourite Clipsal 2000 series. :thumbup:

Wall repair looks good. They are always fiddly for some reason.

Cheers GB



How do you guys connect wires together in the land down under?


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How do you guys connect wires together in the land down under?


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mate we're tough over this way, us all being ex-convicts and all; just grab one end with your left hand and the other with your right...
seriously , sparkys over here try and have un-interrupted cable runs else junction box etc with screw terminals (but wait to be corrected by a real sparky !! )
 

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mate we're tough over this way, us all being ex-convicts and all; just grab one end with your left hand and the other with your right...
seriously , sparkys over here try and have un-interrupted cable runs else junction box etc with screw terminals (but wait to be corrected by a real sparky !! )

Spot on, but we do twist the seven strands of copper conductor in the same way as the cable strands are laid from manufacture. When you twist two together is the same process, easy.
My rule of thumb I have no more two conductors at any one terminal if possible but at some light fittings on one terminal you will have three depending on how you do your initial design and rough in

I trust this helps..:thumbup:
 
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Bob, you need one of these little Berlingo vans......

Like the PT Cruiser, they are so much more versatile than people realise.

Thank you so much for your contribution to the Charity Cycling Challenge I am participating in. As I mentioned elsewhere, every cent or penny collected means it's one less to worry about.

I was showing Katy the website of the charity when I saw your name on the home site. I had not realised you could comment on the "Together for short Lives" home page as well.

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/GeneralMedicineTriathlon2017

Right, off to a bootfair now and then have to go take a ride again....... I am so unfit. :D
Rian, I really like your Berlingo and would buy one in a heartbeat if Citroen had even a small presence in the US (I kept my X1/9 for years after Fiat left the US market). Unfortunately the only Citroen parts available here are for 1975 and older models. I'm just as enthusiastic about my PT Cruiser but some of that enthusiasm is because of the gas-guzzling hopped-up turbo 4-banger. Your Berlingo is far more practical in that regard.

I was happy to contribute to your cause. I have become disillusioned with many charities so I don't give like I used to. When the head of a charity gets paid like a corporate CEO I stop giving. When I get a cold call from a charity it may mean a room-full of people are well-paid instead of the money going to the needy. When a charity sends me mailers every month after I've made a donation, I have second thoughts. When an almost identical charity sends me mailers after I donate to another, I know I'm on a sucker list.

Your charity is helping the helpless when just about everyone around them is just making sad faces. You are most welcome and thank you for sharing this charity with us.
 
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Bob, those twist electrical connectors always make me cringe when I see them on the renovation shows. Do they actually do a secure fit ?

1/2 Cup has pictured my favourite Clipsal 2000 series. :thumbup:

Wall repair looks good. They are always fiddly for some reason.

Cheers GB
Rod, those twist electrical connectors work just fine when the right one is used by the right person. I probably need to explain a little more.

I agree with you on those Aussie electrical fixtures. I'm pretty sure that's the series installed in our unit back in 1989. If not, they looked like that from the human side.

I have never done a "simple" drywall repair bigger than a knee-size hole.
Wire nuts, as they are called, give pretty good service if installed tightly. They are used all over over here. Quick and secure but when joining three or more wires one must be careful to get all wires in tightly. Of course Bob was just using them for a temporary connection there.

Great work Bob. Apparently one handed chisel users appreciate a sharp chisel. Relieving for the hurricane strap was good cabinetry:thumbup::thumbup:
Andy, I learned a long time ago to pull on the joined wires with extra emphasis on the stranded wires that seemed most likely to slip out.

I have had a 4-wood-chisel Craftsman set, along with a few no-name spares. I do my best to keep the four razor sharp and stored in a drawer where other tools can't touch the edges. Pushing on a dull chisel is one of my recipes for disaster.
GB:

I second you on the wall repair looking good.

The wire nuts do make a secure connection on solid wire if they are sized right and installed correctly (ie: proper size, no exposed wire, wire cut same length and twisted tight). They also work great for a temporary cover to exposed wires in renovation work to keep from getting a shock. There are some cheap ones that typically come with light fixtures and so forth which do not have the spring steel insert and they are not worth the plastic they came from. Those get thrown out without a second glance.
Kenny, thank you for the compliment -- even the boss was impressed (or at least made positive comments).
How do you guys connect wires together in the land down under?


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SF, I think Steve (1/2 Cup) has quite a few posts showing proper (and WTF) wiring down under. The re-wiring of the rental unit next door is truly amazing. These two posts should help.
WTF wiring...
Shorty no problems happy to oblige.:thumbup:

The West Wing is of solid brick construction and that includes the internal walls as well. I think you guys call them cinder blocks, then they are all rendered or stucco finished. Due to the fragile nature of the cinder block most of the chase work and removal of the old wall boxes and conduit had to be done by hand. That little exercise took nearly a day.

The old socket outlet you may remember.

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Then the new wall box and conduit set in place using a rapid cure Bostik epoxy adhesive. That took another day just to get the nine of them set correctly.:thumbup:

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The key things were that the wall boxes has to be set level and just below the finished surface which went well.

The other consideration I had was in order to install the conduits in each case which had to go down into the sub floor space so that I could wire them later I did not particularly want to remove the base board and not damage it.

That took quite some time and fiddling with to achieve.

So yesterday it was time to wire each of the outlets. I had always known that this part was going to be a challenge due to the construction style of the building being all brick both inside and out.
The other factor was that there is not a whole heap of room to move easily and it is like working in a maze.

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I donned a set of coveralls and began the decent into the abyss so to speak, to give you an idea it is a stomach crawl to get where ever you need to go with just enough room in places to lay on you side and do what you had to do. I took just enough tools to do what I had to do and a LED lamp to light the way.

Rather than drag the cable that feeds the socket outlets with me I precut plus some, the lengths I needed and had fed them down into the floor space from each room. This made the job a whole heap easier.

I took three trips down into the subfloor to complete the new wiring an remove the old conduits and cables. In total I spent 5 odd hours under the floor and I needed a long hot shower after it let me tell you.

So today basically all I have to do is to cement / mortar in and refinish each of the wall boxes, then fit off each of the outlets tomorrow and apart from the mains and main switchboard will basically complete the electrical upgrade.

I trust this answers your question. Have a top day.:thumbup:
...And how a proper job looks:
Thank you Coop, I am really happy where things are at with the West Wing at the moment, I have achieved what I set out to do three weeks ago plus some.:thumbup:
The Quality Shed Time was great for a change and to that end I spent several hours last night with beer in hand sorting a whole bunch of old but usable electrical fittings and outlets from the West Wing plus some of the bits and pieces that one tends to accumulate over the years. The is quite a heap of stuff and I intend to sell it on Gumtree ( Craigs List )



drives I supposed I could have done it, but my friend has all the right sheet metal gear and did it in a flash for me which was fantastic.:thumbup:

I did install the chimney cowl yesterday and it took a whole 10 minutes to do.:thumbup:

I will be catching up with our prospective tenant at work Monday as he has been filling in for me while I have been away, more just directing traffic so to speak.:thumbup:

He will be surprised at the changes we have done thus far. :thumbup:

I have had a fantastic few weeks off work, yes it has been challenging at times but I have stepped off the Merry Go Round that is called work 100% for that time. Some have said you should go away for a holiday, take a break and my response to that is " what I am doing is a holiday ":thumbup:


All. Yesterday, I concentrated on the final 9 socket outlets that working on over the last few days, fitted the Chimney Flue Cowl, installed the new main earth stake and its bond to the water main incomer and then for the most part cleaned and moved all my stuff back to the Shed Downunder.

Just to show you guys how a socket outlet is wired out here, you will note the standard cable colours are different the Red is what we call the Active ( hot ) and the Black is the Neutral.
We switch the active in all cases.

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The cable from what I understand would be similar to your Romex? It is what we call TPS ( Thermo Plastic Sheath ) and as you can see it is double insulated.
The copper conductors are 2.5mm stranded ( 7/065 seven strands of .065 mm ). We don't normally use solid copper out here nowadays.

Typically where the circuit is fed from say a 20 amp circuit breaker you can have 20 outlets on one circuit, not that you would do that as you would split them over serveral.

The finished double 10 amp socket outlet.

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While I was at the electrical wholesalers ( Laurence and Hansen ) I picked up these great little numbers for when I was under the floor and in the roof space. These are a 10 and 20 watt LED units and they work a treat. I can highly recommend them for a host of applications, they come with a three year warranty as well.

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Anyway that's it for me this morning I out to the Shed Downunder:thumbup:

Have a great day and thank you one and all for dropping by...

Enjoy your Memorial Day long week end and please take a moment to reflect on its significance.

As we say out here in Australia on such occasions:


LEST WE FORGET.



mate we're tough over this way, us all being ex-convicts and all; just grab one end with your left hand and the other with your right...
seriously , sparkys over here try and have un-interrupted cable runs else junction box etc with screw terminals (but wait to be corrected by a real sparky !! )
Greg, you may have hit on the real reason why there are only 24,641,662 Australians living on a continent the size of the US. I have been tickled by 110 AND 220 power and feel fortunate to be alive and still holding on to usable brain cells.
Spot on, but we do twist the seven strands of copper conductor in the same way as the cable strands are laid from manufacture. When you twist two together is the same process, easy.
My rule of thumb I have no more two conductors at any one terminal if possible but at some light fittings on one terminal you will have three depending on how you do your initial design and rough in

I trust this helps..:thumbup:
Thank you Steve! I am going to post a bit more on the US wiring and the wire nuts.
 
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Our house wiring systems are confusing to many outside the US (along with a fair number inside as well).

Most 110v outlets and switches have a "back wire" and "side wire" connections. There's a guide molded in the plastic that shows how much insulation to strip to make a safe connection. The least expensive units have a somewhat unreliable connection. Here's an illustration from HandymanHowTo.Com:
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When I removed the outlet causing the problem in my outdoor circuit, I didn't see anything obviously wrong with it. I took it apart and nothing jumps out as being defective. The rust on the one screw shouldn't be a problem because this outlet was back-wired.
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I conclude the broken connection is simply the cheap outlet's back-wire design. All of the electrical current has to run through the connection made by spring pressure on a bent piece of metal. Being out by the pool, a fair bit of chlorine gas is probably making that connection break down just enough to make an open circuit.
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As I replace outlets in the house, I always install the new one using the side-wire attachment. When there are multiple fixtures in a box, I connect the black and white wires with wire nuts along with a pig-tail that goes to the fixture, which is side-wired.

Wire nuts come in all shapes and sizes. The two most common are the winged Red and Yellow with the latter handling two or three 14-gauge wires. As Kenny mentioned, more reliable wire nuts come with a spiral metal insert that cuts into the wire and makes a very reliable connection. Many electrical products are shipped with cheaper wire nuts that have the spiral molded into the plastic. In the group below, the small blue wire nut has a metal spiral but white and yellow ones next to it don't. The blue and red wire nut is an outdoor or underground wire nut that has the metal spiral and that flexible seal to hold the gob of silicone inside. The green wire nut is for bare ground wires and has a hole in the top so a longer bare wire can pass through to connect to the side-wired ground connection on the fixture. Not sure why I have the big gray wire nut but it's for higher-current capacity wiring.
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I made some progress on Father's Day. A long dormant brain cell hinted that I already had some corner bead left over from another repair. Sure enough there were two 4-foot pieces on a shelf above the paint cans in the workshop and an 8-foot piece on the pole-saw rack (Floridians who prune their own trees have multiple pole saws).

I don't own a drywall screw gun and it doesn't come close to making my "need a tool" list, even on my most generous days. Instead I invested in two drywall hex bits. Even if you only do drywall repairs on rare occasions, this is a "must-have" hex bit. It allows you to drive the drywall screw as hard as you want but prevents the screw from going through the drywall. It automatically sets the screw below the drywall surface and dimples the surrounding drywall, giving a perfect countersunk attachment.
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This bit has seen a lot of use and has held up well. I bought two of them years ago, thinking it would not hold up this well.

I used up 80% of that off-cut piece of drywall to fill the gaps on the sides of the window and the inside of the window frame. No fancy millwork around the windows in this house, just a piece of marble for the sill.

After I installed the corner bead, I peeled back the paint around the perimeter of the window. The paint sticks real well to the paper on the drywall but didn't stick at all to the spray texture (orange peel look) applied when the house was built. When I painted this room last year I scraped off all the old paint and sanded all the texture off the drywall.

After I taped all the joints and the corner bead with mesh, it was time for the first coat of mud. The finishers that worked on this house when it was built didn't use mesh on any of the corner bead so big chips of drywall compound have been knocked off the metal whenever something bumps it.
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First coat of compound is on and I'm giving it a day or two to dry. I added too much water to the slightly dried up compound a couple of years ago so it sticks just fine but the 1/2-inch deep gaps take a while to dry completely.
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I'm so glad I'm retired. This repair has already taken more than a month. When I was working and had no time to do anything this would have been done over a weekend with paint completed the next evening.
 

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I'm so glad I'm retired. This repair has already taken more than a month. When I was working and had no time to do anything this would have been done over a weekend with paint completed the next evening.

Bob: You probably didn't have as large of an audience when you were working waiting to see your step by step processes on Garage Journal. As Andy would tell you, today is the first Saturday of your week.

Time for me to get back to work.
 
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