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drivesitfar

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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

Wrench: thanks for offering up, but not sure how it works when not posting your own pictures from your personal websites. i'm not even sure how the members are hosting pictures and posting them from their own web site yet, but hearing some are trying so I (we)'ll keep you posted.

ALL: anybody have a great way to post pictures other than directly to GJ like i do please post up the procedures so that a 6 year old could understand cause some of us old guys still need some help with a computer even though we might be able to send a man in space.

cheers
 
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As a very un-tech person who kept everything on PB this was really disappointing. Was able to download my photos (I understand at lower resolution but now I can go back and look for them in my files) and deleted my PB account. Lots of good suggestions on alternatives here . . .but a bit gun shy at this point.:eyecrazy:
 

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Is there a reason people don't save the pics on their laptop/desktop and just upload them here as Drives mentions? With terabyte hard drives these days do you really have to store them on some other server/cloud?
 

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Like I said in the other thread, and kelpaso said above . ........ just upload the pictures directly. That way they will always be here as long as this site exists. I really do not see the need for a third party host for pictures.
 

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At one time many websites like this one did not offer local image hosting. The only way to reliably get a photo to show in your post was through third party image sites like photobucket. You had the option of having a full size pic or a thumbnail or just a link in your post to a picture that should always be there. The concern for me with photobucket hosted pictures is that if they cancel my "free" account for non payment years of accumulated pictures could disappear from old post leaving them much diminished. I could care less about getting my pics back from PB. I have them stored on my hard drive and a thumb. I just hope the links I posted years ago in older posts remain active but I have no intention of paying ransom to ensure they do. Ed.
 

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Re: Photobucket alternatives...

1. Many times I upload photos that get posted to a couple different forums. Would have to upload the same photo two or three times to each forum. It's nice having all the photos in one place, just copy and paste the links.

THIS, especially when it was the early days of the internet. A site like PB made it a central location for all the pics you might want to post on a forum, just grab the links/code and post. But it has its downside, we are seeing that downside right now.
 

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What do you think is behind Photobucket pulling this stunt? This seems a little surprising for a company that is as well known as Photobucket to do something so seemingly dumb.
 

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What do you think is behind Photobucket pulling this stunt? This seems a little surprising for a company that is as well known as Photobucket to do something so seemingly dumb.

Theyre braindead??? :lol_hitti

This isnt the first time a website, or a photo host has done something this stupid and it wont be the last.

Im guessing that this is the beginning of the end for PB. This is one last cash grab before they sell off the husk of whats left.
 

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Like I said in the other thread, and kelpaso said above . ........ just upload the pictures directly. That way they will always be here as long as this site exists. I really do not see the need for a third party host for pictures.

Nope.

I won't upload directly to a forum beyond a scenario where I'm too tired to notice that's what I've done. Usually, it's accompanied by a... "less than stellar" post, from a grammar point of view.

Many people won't do that. We all have different reasons, and it doesn't matter what they are; because they are related to individual use scenarios. All that matters is the reasons exist, and they are good reasons.

If it doesn't matter to you, that's fine. But the whole net that isn't flipping out right now is going on about "That's the price for hosting remotely." and "What did you expect for free?".

That's not the issue at all. It has absolutely nothing to do with the problem beyond idle and unavoidable association.
 

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This sounds like a bit of good news. I posted about the PB fiasco on another website and someone replied that if you're using Google Chrome, it has an extension that automatically fixes the pics. At least that's what I got out of it. I'm far from computer savvy (I don't even know what an extension is!) so maybe someone can clarify.

All my pics in all the forums I'm on are still there. I uploaded a pic to PB yesterday and then put it on the HAMB with no problems. Still there too. Check the 4th reply down on the thread...............

https://www.killbillet.com/showthre...et-is-pulling-a-fast-one!-Check-your-accounts!
 

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Re: Attention GJers-Check your Photobucket accounts

Well, now Photobucket is dysfunctional again. It just freezes when I try to download my other libraries. I have all the originals, but it would be nice to keep the files separated for future posting...

Tommy


it's basically bogged down by all the millions of users trying to do exactly what you are doing. Try for odd hours, or peak working hours when fewer are trying.

also, if you have sub-albums, you'll have to click the download in each. Doing it at the top level when you have subs will net you only the loose stuff you have at the top level.
 

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What do you think is behind Photobucket pulling this stunt? This seems a little surprising for a company that is as well known as Photobucket to do something so seemingly dumb.

About two years ago, they made a switch to Beta without a notice. Not only did they make a switch, they didn't seem to really know what they were doing. It was almost like one day they said "hey let's try this."
 

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Is there a reason people don't save the pics on their laptop/desktop and just upload them here as Drives mentions? With terabyte hard drives these days do you really have to store them on some other server/cloud?

Since I bought a better phone, I have uploaded pictures right to PB. Before I had this phone, I had a flip phone that din't always take the best photos and I would use the digi camera, SD card to the PC.

Using my phone, I can merely upload the picture to PB by sending it as a message. Later in the day when I get on my laptop or PC, I can go to PB, copy/paste the link while I have GJ open and making a post.
 

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Re: Attention GJers-Check your Photobucket accounts

Same with google photos....forums don't seem to like them.

I guess I get it....bandwidth costs money and they make money showing you all those ^%&%^$@*$#$((&@^%#*^($^(% AD's.

It is free, and you get what you pay for....so looks like we may have to start shelling out even more money to someone to host our photos so we can play on the forums.....wish google would work.

I just started a thread posting picture from google photos without a problem.

I think the trick is not to use the URL in the address bar when you browse to your picture but instead to right-click on the picture itself and use "Copy image address...". You will get a long *** url that finished with something like =wXXXX-hXXXX. These last url parameter are the resolution of the image and you can change it! This is great so that a high res image can be scaled down to fit nicely in a thread post. For example I'll delete =w1234-h987 and replace it with simply =w600 so that my image is scaled down from 1234x987 down to 600px width (height is calculated automatically).

Google photo is great and cheap. Anyone with different experience?
 
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Re: Photobucket alternatives...

Another successful Google photo user -

I just started a thread posting picture from google photos without a problem.

I think the trick is not to use the URL in the address bar when you browse to your picture but instead to right-click on the picture itself and use "Copy image address...". You will get a long *** url that finished with something like =wXXXX-hXXXX. These last url parameter are the resolution of the image and you can change it! This is great so that a high res image can be scaled down to fit nicely in a thread post. For example I'll delete =w1234-h987 and replace it with simply =w600 so that my image is scaled down from 1234x987 down to 600px width (height is calculated automatically).

Google photo is great and cheap. Anyone with different experience?

Referenced thread w/ photo's
Lean-to Shed Construction Progress
 

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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

ALL: some members are buying their own domain name website and paying about $150 a year to have it and host their own pictures as another option.

a couple places to buy these websites and have them hosted that i've talked to and gotten pricing from are:

1) GoDaddy.com
2) Google.com

anybody else have a place they like to get a domain name and start their own web site and have their own pictures or do a blog or whatever do say so and let us know the costs if you can.

thanks and to all of you that have the PB pictures in hostage mode i feel for you, but it's better than having your computer crash is all i can say. not much better and just trying to help since i left PB years ago.

My website is hosted by Dotster.com

Most of these have photo sharing apps, but they are not that great. Clunky at best.
 

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Too soon? hosted at imgflip

vunzk.jpg
 

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Nope.

I won't upload directly to a forum beyond a scenario where I'm too tired to notice that's what I've done. Usually, it's accompanied by a... "less than stellar" post, from a grammar point of view.

Many people won't do that. We all have different reasons, and it doesn't matter what they are; because they are related to individual use scenarios. All that matters is the reasons exist, and they are good reasons.

If it doesn't matter to you, that's fine. But the whole net that isn't flipping out right now is going on about "That's the price for hosting remotely." and "What did you expect for free?".

That's not the issue at all. It has absolutely nothing to do with the problem beyond idle and unavoidable association.

What are some of the possible downsides of uploading directly to sites that allow it? I don't doubt that there are good reasons for avoiding it, I just don't know what they might be.

I'm sorry but I don't understand your last paragraph. Could you please elaborate?
 

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What are some of the possible downsides of uploading directly to sites that allow it? I don't doubt that there are good reasons for avoiding it, I just don't know what they might be.

I'm sorry but I don't understand your last paragraph. Could you please elaborate?

x2, What's the reason for avoiding it?
 

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JUNK: that's pretty close to what i'm thinking. from FREE to $400 per year is desperation and i'm guessing they will be gone soon. too bad it ruined a lot of great threads that some of us might have liked to keep on GJ for years to come for others to enjoy. also going to another online picture hosting site that is free, cheap or a good option now possibly that site could always change ownership and we'd be dealing with their problems later.

ALL: so there is mention of GJ's owner saving money if all the pictures are not hosted on their site, but honestly i think that's BS. if GJ's site has pictures to go on with their threads that keep building and creating a better web site the site will or should create a lot more interest and hence bring in more money. plus HIGH COST MEMORY is in our past. i remember guys 20 years ago paying $500 for 5 ram to add to their laser printers so they could print their projects and 10 years ago when i bought the same chip new for $5 i think you get the point.

how much memory is a TERABYTE (sp?)? i've seen server farms built in the desert that have their own water and power station to keep our CLOUD and other memory savers out of expensive high dollar buildings in the cities. just for an example i'm not sure how many pictures i have in my old laptop and now my newer laptop i've had for a year, but somebody told me there was a tab in my GJ profile to show me what i've posted on GJ so i saw i've got over a Gig of pictures posted directly on GJ currently.

Attachment Statistics
You are currently using 1.38 GB to store 12,911 uploaded attachments.


i still like the idea of downloading directly to GJ using one of their methods and not sure why some of the members don't want to keep pictures on their own computers and laptops with all the memory we have. if you have an older computer you can buy some memory sticks to save your pictures on or an exterior hard drive if you don't want to buy a new computer.

keep posting up great ideas to solve the issue and we all know there is a problem so let's fix it or do the best we can and move on.

those of you that are still using PB cause it still works maybe you have not reached that limit they imposed for some of the members that post a lot of pictures. BTW as far as i know PB gave ZERO warning before shutting the pictures down and then asking for $399 per year. or did anybody get a warning?
 
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Class Action lawsuit?
 

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1) i've got over 12,000 pictures on GJ

Wow. Do you realize the impact that 12k photos has on a site like this? Sure Ryan is storing 1.4 gigs of "your" pics, but it's not just storing the photos that creates the cost.

The cost comes out like this: Cost per photo = storage cost + bandwidth cost. Then bandwidth cost = file size multiplied by the number of downloads.

Respectfully, I'd ask you to become an Alliance member because there's a financial impact on Ryan. Having met him, in person, I get that he's a regular guy that provides something of great value to lots of us - you included.

With PhotoBucket, part of their business plan was to provide space to LOTS of folks and their traffic helped bring in significant ad revenue.

However, revenue dollars change with the times. As well, PBs format grew ever complicated and bloated to gain as much revenue as possible because more ads were needed to get them where they want to be.

If a dozen other guys posted like you, Drives, it would really impact the site and obviously the rest of us - you included.
 
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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

BRENT: you don't think my time is worth anything? would you think that I should delete all my pictures and quit posting?

if Ryan actually sent me an email (yes he has it) and told me to do something different i'd be happy to post less or post less pictures.

as far as donations i feel that my donations are made in helping others which is maybe worth more than money.

speaking of ALLIANCE DONATIONS i don't see your name in RED so maybe it's time for you to donate. in all fairness i think the members that are active like you are help Ryan build and own maybe the best forum on the internet and hoping it keeps growing.
 

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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

That is the main reason I don't store my pictures on GJ, it can bog things down and cost Ryan money.

But when you post an average of almost 16 posts a day, every day for four years, I guess your time is worth something, not sure how much though.
 

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BRENT: you don't think my time is worth anything? would you think that I should delete all my pictures and quit posting?

I'm not judging what your time is worth. You don't need get passive aggressive with me. I didn't call out your time, I commented on the amount of photos and the space/cost.

I'm meant exactly what I said. I think it would be helpful/respectful for you to become an Alliance member ESPECIALLY for the sole reason of how many photos you post.

Ryan doesn't have a **** ton of advertising (thankfully). Nor does he have a horde of Alliance members or sponsors.

And since I don't like your attitude in response, I will say it's selfish to not see the regular guy behind the site. You can justify it anyway you want to but I see it how I see it and how I'm seeing it - isn't the same way you do.

If you think you're more valuable to this site than someone else, do it, take a week off and see how the site implodes... or doesn't.

If I need to be MORE CLEAR, I don't think you're any more important than any other member here. I have gotten HUGE value from folks with a fraction of posts. Are you better than them?

speaking of ALLIANCE DONATIONS i don't see your name in RED so maybe it's time for you to donate. in all fairness i think the members that are active like you are help Ryan build and own maybe the best forum on the internet and hoping it keeps growing.

You're right! However, I was a HAMB alliance member for the first 6 years or so. I've participated in HAMB auctions and spent hundreds on Atomic Industry swag and I still don't think I'm above anyone else and the site owes me. I backed off to crush debt and to send my kids to a decent school.

But I get your weird, childish rationale. Still, I'm a guy that has 56mb in attachments. And because F-you, I'm not going to sign up... I'm just going to PayPal Ryan $50.

I'm disappointed in you, Drives.
 
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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

Wow. Do you realize the impact that 12k photos has on a site like this? Sure Ryan is storing 1.4 gigs of "your" pics, but it's not just storing the photos that creates the cost.

The cost comes out like this: Cost per photo = storage cost + bandwidth cost. Then bandwidth cost = file size multiplied by the number of downloads.

Respectfully, I'd ask you to become an Alliance member because there's a financial impact on Ryan. Having met him, in person, I get that he's a regular guy that provides something of great value to lots of us - you included.

Brent,

Thanks for the reminder.

FWIW I have just become an Alliance member. As I don't contribute (i.e. post) nearly as much as some of the die-hards out here, I figure $50 a year is the least I can do. Considering the amount of enjoyment I derive from this site I figure it is a worthy investment.

Coming from an IT background, I can't imagine the hassles involved with keeping this site (and HAMB) up and running. And based on recent developments, it doesn't sound like it is going to get any easier.

Plus, Ryan seems to be a straight-up guy who deserves our support.

Cheers! :beer:
 

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But I get your weird, childish rationale. Still, I'm a guy that has 56mb in attachments. And because F-you, I'm not going to sign up... I'm just going to PayPal Ryan $50.

Since Ryan wouldn't let me make a donation, (Damn you and your values, Ryan! :lol:) I spent the $50 on a membership.

That came out of my hot rod and garage budget... which coincidentally I was going to use on SmugMug to host the photos in my thread.
 

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Re: Photobucket alternatives...

I think I have google drive figured out. Found these simple instructions on Stack Overflow. Now the question is do I find all of my pics in previous posts and move them over to google drive. I suspect google is less likely to change their policies about sharing images.


here is how from @ https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/drive/yU_yF9SI_z0/discussion

1- upload ur image

2- right click and chose "get sharable link"

3- copy the link which should look like

https://drive.google.com/open?id=xxxxxxx
4-change the open? to uc? and use it like

<img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=xxxxx">


https://stackoverflow.com/questions...-g-images-stored-in-google-drive-on-a-website


Test the process with a pic of my Krl:
uc


I am using this method of posting photos. I have used it in the past, but its hit an miss as to who can see the photo. I was originaly thinging your browser needed to be logged into a Google acount to see these photos posted to google, but opening an "In Privet" browser tab and viewing the threads on this forum, and i still see the image.
So i can not quite put a finger on it, as to why only some can see "google hosted" photos.

Here is a sample, Can you see my coupon? below?
wRB0c6LsBsCXlK-d7eyPsAi7xY3JYr4rQrdBr6yel4XTl_x0dBLz0ll3NA1zdz8g2OaJ_hIILP-dbzCh5c0SelBEIwiknwEIOYN0TDSJC8ypDDm2W2jnKh-4Oe9gQwI0_8sIVtzMHTu6-RHzU0xUM30dqBWasPlbedCtV5s8i0FRyCYTcqzsTY62VB-orPWssS5_JlDphs_gcRMVmA9D-4YCSqCvpApbSMvBSM61R42H390eTrl87YtrvaeMF4WK5Rer_7ZrrCkr6pLK2nVQryDT9iART7PE9mH4SAZLxr3oZvynoHacDtTmhwzTWjryalLGwQ0ujIzZgXtvV0xbMhtQNBQNFqSX-_CXU2kh0VseFVnTD744sZRDCCCy4Bmv0Vb96KQclSSC3ldN1oK_ONRfB5JHdzoHF3U9gWQxPkNMT7ePuLFnA9BYlL6V-l0YbyMAtLj6oudASYhF96nYZMU75mBxIbMV10t0lExPHCo2hIQ6pUY6S0HanCSYOeFDtYDa1MIN33U9-zu7z-5Cr5VJ2JBjHPR6auCSNgRH71wJAcQ7TyiYNIxn17cspjKWhUd8tByy_ZLzDnlS3ukV0dPOY5v5BXF8mR9UeblNMI7yeuTsDiBSXeSwXrihDAMLzSiuKHvBA9OXMedQIWa9Q10d0-7BNYQDM2t4aG3yuWM=w800-h331-no
 

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Re: Photobucket alternatives...

I am using this method of posting photos. I have used it in the past, but its hit an miss as to who can see the photo. I was originaly thinging your browser needed to be logged into a Google acount to see these photos posted to google, but opening an "In Privet" browser tab and viewing the threads on this forum, and i still see the image.
So i can not quite put a finger on it, as to why only some can see "google hosted" photos.

Here is a sample, Can you see my coupon? below?

So I noticed that when I was on a windows desktop using a chrome browser, I could see the google drive photos. However, when I pulled the thread open on my iPad using safari, the image didn't show. Now what was really weird, I grabbed the link in the img tag of the post, put it in a different safari tab, went back and reloaded this thread and not only my image came up but the previous images that were google drive also displayed.

This whole thing is kind of a pain. We lose a lot of past threads info without the images.
 

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I am really selfish, I refuse to join the alliance because I don't want my username to be red.
 

pendragon1998

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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

I can't even imagine the costs that would be incurred by PB to host an enormous number of photos in perpetuity in exchange for basically nothing from their users. It just doesn't seem like the way they were doing it could have been sustainable, and I guess it wasn't, hence the change. Now, it's pretty lame of them to just flip a switch without giving users a heads up.

On the other hand, this illustrates a wider concern I have for the internet - there is relatively little archiving going on to preserve the vast amount of information and knowledge that is shared daily. Even material from 5 years ago is replete with broken links and (now) all those missing PB images. I can't think of a solution, but it's a problem, that's for sure. Imagine if 40% of content in books disappeared from libraries after just a decade.
 

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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

I can't even imagine the costs that would be incurred by PB to host an enormous number of photos in perpetuity in exchange for basically nothing from their users. .

Google does this all the time, that is how they got so big. Build a product that can be given away for free (gmail is a good example in the very early days), then charge for upgraded services or extra features.

Photobucket sort of did this. Free photo hosting to attract users. Run "light" ads for passive revenue. Then they had services like you could order prints, and other physical items with your photos on them. Mind you this was novel and worth while in the early 2000's when they started as people were still in transition of film to digital and getting physical prints from digital was something people wanted. Obviously the landscape of what pictures people want to have as physical media has changed.

Photobucket is a little late to the party in coming up with a tiered set of packages for more storage or services. They tried upping the advertising, but putting "resource heavy" ads in probably drove more and more people away from even accessing the site OR drove people to run an Ad-blocker on the site. Both scenarios reduce Ad impressions and thus revenue share.

I also think mobile computing (ie. people with phones) sort of affected this as people on phones use "the internet" differently through apps rather than browsers which affects how that traffic can be monetized. Also I don't know but I might assume Photobucket didn't have an app or if they did it might have been cumbersome.

Now they obviously had to make a drastic price hike and use a version of extortion (I am using the term very loosely here) to get people to buy into it.
 

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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

Google does this all the time, that is how they got so big. Build a product that can be given away for free (gmail is a good example in the very early days), then charge for upgraded services or extra features.

Photobucket sort of did this. Free photo hosting to attract users. Run "light" ads for passive revenue. Then they had services like you could order prints, and other physical items with your photos on them. Mind you this was novel and worth while in the early 2000's when they started as people were still in transition of film to digital and getting physical prints from digital was something people wanted. Obviously the landscape of what pictures people want to have as physical media has changed.

Photobucket is a little late to the party in coming up with a tiered set of packages for more storage or services. They tried upping the advertising, but putting "resource heavy" ads in probably drove more and more people away from even accessing the site OR drove people to run an Ad-blocker on the site. Both scenarios reduce Ad impressions and thus revenue share.

I also think mobile computing (ie. people with phones) sort of affected this as people on phones use "the internet" differently through apps rather than browsers which affects how that traffic can be monetized. Also I don't know but I might assume Photobucket didn't have an app or if they did it might have been cumbersome.

Now they obviously had to make a drastic price hike and use a version of extortion (I am using the term very loosely here) to get people to buy into it.

A lot of good points here.

I read a while back something like there are more pictures taken in a day, now, than the all the photos ever taken prior to the smartphone (with camera).

That data ends up being stored and/or posted somewhere.
 
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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

Is Ryan worried about bandwidth? Every time someone is told to search on something that comes up weekly I'm told it's rude and we have hundreds of threads for the same topic.

All I can figure is Ryan thrives on high traffic on this site because from what I've seen 98% of members come and go in a few months tops. It's just a constant rotation but he's gotta keep people coming in to hopefully click and buy on Amazon or the other ways he makes whatever money he does get (which I'm not saying is or is not a lot - I have no idea)

But I remember PBB ~15 years ago always crashing and people were constantly told Search Newb and don't quote tons of pictures in replies because of bandwidth. None of that goes on here and we have literally hundreds of threads on What's the Best ShopVac

The site feels to me like a supermarket business model: very low margins so you gotta keep people coming for VOLUME

Anyway.....I was also wondering.....can anyone recommend a good tap & die set? Thanks!

It would actually be interesting to see Ryan pipe up on what the photos cost him and/or just his feelings on it.

PBB won't allow photo attachments unless you've got a red star. Ryan COULD do the same if he's eating Ramen every night.

Oh and can anyone point me to a good set of drill bits that'll stay sharp? Is HF good? Or should I go Snap-On?
 

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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

Is Ryan worried about bandwidth? Every time someone is told to search on something that comes up weekly I'm told it's rude and we have hundreds of threads for the same topic.

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PBB won't allow photo attachments unless you've got a red star. Ryan COULD do the same if he's eating Ramen every night.

The GJ membership/culture is so much different than PBB. I don't have to tell you that but the rise and fall of PBB wasn't riding on the site's culture. Developing and taking care of the tech is what I got out of some of the folks telling people to read the FAQ or search.

For me, and why I think folks should be mindful of posting pics directly to smaller sites actually comes from what happened to sites like PBB. That place clamped down pretty hard on the membership, especially after Lance sold it. It got so commercial that it lost its essence.

I'd hate for that to happen here. Obviously, it's doubtful, but as can be seen in other sites over the last decade+, the membership has a lot to do with the direction of the site.
 
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Re: Photobucket alternatives...

Here is a sample, Can you see my coupon? below?

I can see it.
One thing I've noticed about the Google hosted photos is that they have an insanely long URL address, I wonder why that is? Most of the URL's on my photo host site are about as long as my pinky finger.
 

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Re: Photobucket alternatives...

In some cases, I use my companies domain to upload pictures too. Photobucket, in my experience has become very slow, and often unresponsive. and have since shyed away from them.

the biggest benefit for using a photo site is that you can easily see thumbnails of the images you uploaded for easy snagging...

outside of that, technology will only get cheaper and faster. not sure why they decided to begin charging people money for something that has been free for over a decade.
 

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Re: PHOTOBUCKET is holding some member's photos as hostage. what are the best options

Cool, my name is now in red. Thank you for raising my awareness.
 
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