joe.striper
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200 bucks and a tank of gas [emoji5]
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PacificaVette
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Not digging the yellow. Not a slam Joe, just my opinion. I always wondered what a yellow vise would look like (seen many a yellow painted mfg machine in my life, working as an IT guy in predominantly MFG/Production plants) but it's not my cup of tea.
Don't worry Joe, you're not alone
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BrettJ74
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Here are a couple that I have recently cleaned up. I went with resale red on the Craftsman which I already sold to a guy at work. And the Rock Island I tried to replicate the green textured paint SK used to use (for some other future projects) 
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Bellaireroad
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Haha thanks... I thought it was a good deal.... I never find good deals... just got lucky
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Fretters
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Finally got the Parkinson 8A swivel jaw finished tonight.
That's a 2' ruler on the bench in front of her.
That's a 2' ruler on the bench in front of her.
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Bellaireroad
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Finally got the Parkinson 8A swivel jaw finished tonight.
That's a 2' ruler on the bench in front of her.
Fantastic .... you get the award for best finish [emoji1303]
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Fretters
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Cheers. I'm just glad she derusted as well as she did, considering this was the condition when I got her.
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damnesia
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Picked up this vise today for cheap and for it's size, it is very heavy. It has a couple of thick coats of paint on it that is hiding the casting marks and until I strip it and clean it, I'm thinking one of you could help identify the make anyway just by some pictures. Looks like it has the jaw inserts removed and I can see two holes on either jaw where the screw in. I'm thinking it's probably a Parker?
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If you would Black out the lettering, it would really pop on that yellow. Nice work
Thank you. I'm contemplating the black letters..
Best,
Rob
Not digging the yellow. Not a slam Joe, just my opinion. I always wondered what a yellow vise would look like (seen many a yellow painted mfg machine in my life, working as an IT guy in predominantly MFG/Production plants) but it's not my cup of tea.
Don't worry Joe, you're not alone
Ha.. thanks.. Sweet looking Prentiss.
My girls wanted me to paint one yellow and I wasn't opposed to it.
And, I actually like it.
Best,
Rob
GETRIDAONE
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I think you are right about it being a Parker. Union Manufacturing continued to remove the classic Parker features, round top jaws, cast spindle retainer, handle tension screw, and base locking wrench. You won't find any lettering under the paint, they used a stick on label in the end. Model 974 B for 4" jaws.
The stone texture provides an interesting effect. Thanks.
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dutchgray
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Very nice Fretters, the 8A came up amazing.
Fretters
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Cheers Dutch. Working on the stand at the moment, so hopefully I should have them paired together again later this month. Not refitting the swivel base though. Had to split one of the nuts on the stand due to the long coach bolt through the leg spinning, so I'll either need to repair that else find a replacement. Tried heat & everything, but that one nut wouldn't give up the ghost without extreme persuasion.
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trijeff
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Big Daddy ... Walworth
dutchgray
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It is a large vice to have on a swivel by English standards, normally want the vice as rigid as possible and a swivel usually isn't so, but the Parkinson looked like a pretty good design, so would be pretty solid I think, not sure I would want my 8a on a swivel though.
I guess its a whitworth coach screw and nut, not something I have about.
Fretters
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I'm of the same mind. Seeing the rear of the base floating mid-air doesn't inspire confidence. 
Aye, it's BSW. Not sure if it's a 5/8" or 3/4” yet, but it's definitely above 1/2". I may be able to resurrect the old nut, hopefully, as I was careful splitting it.
Aye, it's BSW. Not sure if it's a 5/8" or 3/4” yet, but it's definitely above 1/2". I may be able to resurrect the old nut, hopefully, as I was careful splitting it.
damnesia
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Thanks for the response. I did a little paint removal and it has a Parker Vise Company logo cast into it like this picture I found on the forum. For 20$ I'm going to call it a win, even though I will have to find jaw inserts for it.
Still trying to identify the anvil I bought at the same sale. I don't collect them but have been wanting to find an affordable one I could use. The one I found looks usable enough for my purposes but I have no idea who made it. After bad luck with garage sales and estate sales all year, I finally got amazing deals two weeks in a row.
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MissileBear
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Jaw inserts for Parkers are not universal - on my Union Parker, each jaw was milled a bit different (the static jaw wouldn't fit on the dynamic jaw).
I think this has been brought up before in this thread.
This little Athol followed me home from a swap meet yesterday. It is a 3.5 inch with a 711 on the opposite side of the Athol lettering and weighs in at 29 lbs (seemed a lot heavier hauling it back out to the car in my backpack). I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth it works as there is almost no backlash in the handle and the slide is very snug in the main body. The spring loaded handle is very unique and works perfectly.
Although this takes my vise count to 7, my wife actually encouraged me to buy it
Although this takes my vise count to 7, my wife actually encouraged me to buy it
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schor
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I'm still working on this but it's going good so far.
Ok guys, have any of you used a press to straighten a spindle handle? I came across a beautiful vise the other day with a handle that was bent at a 45deg angle. We bent the handle back straight and its nearly perfect. Will the bending of the handle cause any weak points in where its not safe to use?
AngryBeaver
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As long as it was not creased, it'll be fine.
Think rollcage...
Score a mint 204-1/2 M2 tonight. You'd be pissed. I thought the ridgid was mint ...
AngryBeaver
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Found a brother to my ridgid 45FCPN. I had been looking for a beater vise for the service truck. I wasn't expecting to find the gorgeous sister. I guess this means I need to weather proof the columbian made Ridgid or find another service truck beater. Lol
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hello all, over on the woodworking forum in the UK (ukworkshop.co.uk) I am conducting a bit of research into the history of the Record quick-release woodworking vices.
I saw on this whopper of a thread that a couple of you have managed to get hold of Woden and Record woodworkers' vices made in the 'Parkinson pattern' used in the Victorian era.
In your opinion do you think these were made by Parkinson and rebranded or were they copies?
Also, and forgive the rather obscure question, but I am trying to find out when the change was made (and who had the idea to do it) from placing the spring that engages the half nut directly under the half nut to - what is the standard arrangement in more recent UK QR vices - where there is a flat spring on the inside of the front jaw, next to the QR lever. Hope that makes sense!
Fretters/CwazyWabbit I think if anyone can help me, I think it will be one of you two fellas!
I know you have seen a million of them before, but here is a pic of my Record 52 1/2 (the best woodworking vice ever made, as you all know!).
Parky pattern Record (cwazywabbits?)
I saw on this whopper of a thread that a couple of you have managed to get hold of Woden and Record woodworkers' vices made in the 'Parkinson pattern' used in the Victorian era.
In your opinion do you think these were made by Parkinson and rebranded or were they copies?
Also, and forgive the rather obscure question, but I am trying to find out when the change was made (and who had the idea to do it) from placing the spring that engages the half nut directly under the half nut to - what is the standard arrangement in more recent UK QR vices - where there is a flat spring on the inside of the front jaw, next to the QR lever. Hope that makes sense!
Fretters/CwazyWabbit I think if anyone can help me, I think it will be one of you two fellas!
I know you have seen a million of them before, but here is a pic of my Record 52 1/2 (the best woodworking vice ever made, as you all know!).
Parky pattern Record (cwazywabbits?)
gman007
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Good Morning Gents
I have attached three photos of Parker 275 (that is all I have to go by and seller is several hours drive west of me, so it is not realistic just to go and see the vise). The seller states the jaw width as 6" and jaw opening as 12". I did a quick search and found some info based on past GJ posts
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230888
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98279
but no definitive information (photobucket issue did not help either). For example it appears that it might have a swivel jaw but I am not 100% sure. Also the numbering of the vise seems a bit odd, as I would have thought a Parker 275 might have 5" jaws (I know this is not 100% surefire rule but it seems to be generally through for Parkers). I have no idea about the weight either.
As for the condition of the vise itself, with all the heavy paint, it is not easy to judge what shape the vise is in. For example it seems the dynamic jaw might have been chewed up by a dog with steel teeth but I might be wrong. What do you think?
And there is the usual loaded question, a rough idea of what would be a good price assuming the dynamic jaw is not a complete goner.
Any advise and info will be greatly appreciated it.
Cheers
007
I have attached three photos of Parker 275 (that is all I have to go by and seller is several hours drive west of me, so it is not realistic just to go and see the vise). The seller states the jaw width as 6" and jaw opening as 12". I did a quick search and found some info based on past GJ posts
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230888
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98279
but no definitive information (photobucket issue did not help either). For example it appears that it might have a swivel jaw but I am not 100% sure. Also the numbering of the vise seems a bit odd, as I would have thought a Parker 275 might have 5" jaws (I know this is not 100% surefire rule but it seems to be generally through for Parkers). I have no idea about the weight either.
As for the condition of the vise itself, with all the heavy paint, it is not easy to judge what shape the vise is in. For example it seems the dynamic jaw might have been chewed up by a dog with steel teeth but I might be wrong. What do you think?
And there is the usual loaded question, a rough idea of what would be a good price assuming the dynamic jaw is not a complete goner.
Any advise and info will be greatly appreciated it.
Cheers
007
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meatsis
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Definitely not a 5". Here's a Parker 274 that a guy in jersey has been trying to sell. The 274 has 5 1/2" jaws.
https://newjersey.craigslist.org/tls/d/parker-vise-vice-274-swivel/6233836407.html
Here's an old ad I found with the 275 listed. It's obviously a little older as it has the old style swivel. But it has the 275 listed as either 6 1/4" or 6 1/2" jaws. Hard to read it. Either way that one you showed looks pretty beat up. I'd pass on it personally.
MissileBear
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Looks rode hard and put away wet, as the old saying goes.
In addition to the welds, the front collar is broken. The rear static jaw has a big chunk missing above the slide, and the slide looks pretty beat as well. Looks like it'd be useful for parts only, which there are few there. Personally I wouldn't waste the gas money.
In addition to the welds, the front collar is broken. The rear static jaw has a big chunk missing above the slide, and the slide looks pretty beat as well. Looks like it'd be useful for parts only, which there are few there. Personally I wouldn't waste the gas money.
va.grouseman
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What used to be a 275 swivel jaw is now a pile of 7018 welding rod.
That's a Lazarus vise.---You'd have to raise it from the dead.
That's a Lazarus vise.---You'd have to raise it from the dead.
gman007
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Master Scott, Crotalus, meatsis, MB and grouseman
Gentlemen, thank you for the fast response and great advise. It seems the consensus is a big pass. By the way the asking price was $125 which I thought for a 6" Parker was great (assuming the vise was not so beat up).
Rob (Joefriday)
It looks like I am for sure moving to Virginia
, as the vise desert here refuses to yield anything useable.much obliged
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I happened upon a free Wilton vise yesterday. The main screw is bent. Should I apply heat to get it back in shape? I have a 20 ton shop press and torch set. Just don't want to screw it up.
The Craftsman was a whopping $5. It's a little sticky to turn. But, there's a ton of crud to clean off it.
The Craftsman was a whopping $5. It's a little sticky to turn. But, there's a ton of crud to clean off it.
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The later C3's use the 800 base. If you can trust Ereplacement parts website it is 1984 up.
Outlawmws
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How much bend and where? (doesn't look like much) If the pressure is landing where the groove is for the C-Clip (stress riser...) I would use heat, if not, probably not.
If done cold, set it up on 2x or 4x's and cushion the ram with maybe a piece of ply...
If done cold, set it up on 2x or 4x's and cushion the ram with maybe a piece of ply...