US General Series 2 - beats Blue Point

[firworks]

By the way while we are all attacking each other for sport. Would someone please figure out how to purchase the new style lid so those of use with the old cart can purchase it?

You might be able to just contact HF for a "replacement part". Maybe they'd sell you just the lid and the struts.

 

[Hiball]

Would someone please figure out how to purchase the new style lid so those of use with the old cart can purchase it?

Supposedly all it takes is a email/phone call to acquire replacement parts, i suspect it’s not going to be cost effective for a replacement lid versus the Cost of a New Cart, but you never know till you call.

 

[WhiffySpark]

List price for a replacement blue point lid - $120
List price for the entire HF cart $149 - but this is the model that always had $99 coupons..


Husky price $198

They're not even similar

 

[firworks]

Supposedly all it takes is a email/phone call to acquire replacement parts, i suspect it’s not going to be cost effective for a replacement lid versus the Cost of a New Cart, but you never know till you call.

Yeah that's true. You could probably move your old cart on CL for enough that you could just buy a new one and it'd be cheaper than buying a lid.

 

[Specs]

Why not buy 2, one in red and one in black and make 2 cheapo fire and ice boxes??? Then when one starts breaking you sell and take out unused one?

... well not fire and ice, but you get the idea...

 

[kctyphoon]

For parts all you need to do is contact product support. You don't NEED to send an email. "I" did cause I was too lazy to call, and just wanted to get the part number for what I wanted. (I ordered 4 shelves for the old style locker) with the part number you need, it's literally 5 minutes on the phone to process the order. My shelf kits were like $15 each and $6.99 shipping. Took like 5 days for each order cause I bought 2, then bought 2 more..


Product support -
Many of our products have replacement parts available for purchase. To purchase a part, please contact Customer Service at 1-800-444–3353, Monday thru Saturday 5am to 8pm (PT), Sunday 6am to 6pm (PT), or via email. Specify the product name, item number and description of the part when making your inquiry.


Here's the number I called to order parts after they emailed me the part number, this was part of their response.

The part you are requesting can be ordered by contacting our Inbound Sales department at 1-800-423-2567. We are available Monday–Saturday, 5:00am–9:00pm and Sunday 6:00am–6:00pm (PT).

I'm not lying or exaggerating when I say it was honestly one of the most painless things I've done over the phone. No waiting, real person, from this country, speaks English like a normal person.. with my part number and credit card ready, both orders took 5 minutes and change - cause I timed the calls on my cell phone after having another "HF has no support" debate..

 

[kctyphoon]

They're not even similar

You don't consider those similar products?? Or was that sarcasm??

 

[SilverBulletZ06]

I assume you've never seen his other vids. He does very in depth reviews on everything. His subscription numbers have exploded in the last year or two because of that I assume. He's also a member on here. His method has always been to explain the features and show what each product offers, not slam one to endorse another.. if he's making enough money doing it to drive a $65,000 truck and buy a small building to do more reviews, then good for him. Better than laying on your back killing yourself for a living. Stop hating.

If he's validating claims that HF makes when he compares the same products they do in their advertising, that's hardly being a shill.. it would be something else all together if he was lying. Consumers being educated on MASSIVE markup based solely on a name is hardly a bad education to have while people blindly throw money at products thinking that price gets them something. Where are snap on's demos, or the YouTube reviews showing their sockets and wrenches removing bolts that their competitors can't? Those videos don't exist do they?

This is basically what I want from reviews. I give a grain of salt with everything, but I want a comparison of products so I can make a decision. I don't turn wrenches professionally so if I can see that Cart/Wrench/etc is giving similar results but costs 20% of the brand name, that is exactly what I look for.

It's also why I am on this forum.

 

[Snakebyt]

They're not even similar

they are very simular.. I own the HF 4 drawer as well as the blue point 4 drawer, guy a couple stalls down from me owns the Husky.. they are all pretty much the same
i work out of my 2 carts on a daily basis, can honestly say as far as function they both work the same. At one time i had looked into getting another side shelf for my bluepoint, they wanted $150+ just for a side shelf.

IMO, for price and value, you cannot beat the HF carts.

 

[p_mori7]

You don't consider those similar products?? Or was that sarcasm??

 

[Specs]

Sorry, Kellys not supported, i dont see anything else... what thread is this?

 

[Snakebyt]

Sorry, Kellys not supported, i dont see anything else... what thread is this?

got you too huh

 

[Motorman55]

I'm a die hard Harley guy who goes out of his way to Buy American when ever possible. Even so, I purchased a red HF 5 drawer cart and used it for a few years before selling it to another friend at work when I left.

I got it for $139.99 on sale. It was a no brainer purchase.

Now how did it hold up? Well I worked as a forklift mechanic in a 7-bay shop. My HF cart top and drawers were all as full as could be with a side S/O locking screw driver/pry bar box on one side and a side shelf on the other with the original can holder shelf under that. In the bottom open shelf were a couple gallons of various wt. oils, grease and grease guns, various size/types of funnels, misc. stuff and of course a bunch of rags Add to that I modified the top lid to sit at 90o and had magnetic trays, tool holders, etc., etc. on the front and rear of that lid.

I had absolutely no problems with it.. period. Rolled smoothly, tracked straight when pushing or pulling because of the two set wheels on one side (which I do prefer over four turning types.) I kept it in really nice shape and when I sold it, you'd be hard pressed to find a nick or scratch on it.

I sold it for $125.00 less the S/O locking box and side shelf which I still have. Oh and it sits in my friends garage holding all his polishes, cleaning stuff he uses to maintain his 69 Camaro.

I took care of it and it took care of me. Paid for itself many times over.

 

[kctyphoon]

I think reality is starting to sink in and the negative posts have slowed... Wait for the day when HF creates a premium socket and wrench brand, and flank drive gets copied on to a wrench just as strong.. garage journal might see it's first suicide note.

 

[Tonyuk]

'flank drive' Has been on every 12 point (and 6 point) socket and spanner i've ever bought. Even the open end grips are becoming very common amongst the quality brands they just get called something different. OGV for Facom for example. ASD for Proto.

 

[toddoky]

I think reality is starting to sink in and the negative posts have slowed... Wait for the day when HF creates a premium socket and wrench brand, and flank drive gets copied on to a wrench just as strong.. garage journal might see it's first suicide note.

The reality is that HF continues to represent the same thing they always have in the market, regardless of whether you post a new thread about them every other day or not.

No market-changing new tool technology has ever come through the doors of the HF "R&D" department and every type of tool HF sells is a reverse-engineered copy of a tool some other company developed years prior to HF's version.

There's no debate that HF is the king of "me-too" tool development, but that methodology is far behind the innovation curve and is inadequate to service the needs of many tool users out in the world.

I don't think anyone on this site or elsewhere will be considering committing suicide due to someone choosing to buy any brand/type of tool. Nobody here really gives a **** once they logout of the forum.

 

[Motorman55]

I should also add that by purchasing the HF 5-drawer cart for $139.99 it allowed me to spend a few hundred more dollars on specialty tools that I needed for work.

The tools enable you to make the money...carts and toolboxes can save you money.

 

[AceofSpad3s]

I watched the video, not really sure why since I have no business buying either but I seem to do that with a lot of things.

I was pretty shocked when they came to the end of the video, that Bluepoint is CHINESE?
I hope they at least give people buying them some lube, $900 freaking bucks for a Chinese cart, here I was thinking snap on was a bad value but at least those are made here.

 

[kctyphoon]

The reality is that HF continues to represent the same thing they always have in the market, regardless of whether you post a new thread about them every other day or not.

No market-changing new tool technology has ever come through the doors of the HF "R&D" department and every type of tool HF sells is a reverse-engineered copy of a tool some other company developed years prior to HF's version.

There's no debate that HF is the king of "me-too" tool development, but that methodology is far behind the innovation curve and is inadequate to service the needs of many tool users out in the world.

I don't think anyone on this site or elsewhere will be considering committing suicide due to someone choosing to buy any brand/type of tool. Nobody here really gives a **** once they logout of the forum.

Exactly how many decades of development need to go into a socket before it becomes "adequate" by your standards? So - it's ok for blue point to have the same marketing strategy of - let's make cheaper copies of good stuff - but if HF does it, and sells it for a lot less money and markets their products to a different crowd, they are somehow "less than"? Lol

 

[toddoky]

As usual, you missed the point. How many tools has HF developed that they were first to market with? How many design patents have they filed or been awarded? You tout the superiority of Milwaukee of tools all the time, you must find their innovative products/features worth buying or you'd choose to stop getting ripped-off by Milwaukee and buy Bauer and Hercules cordless tools instead...as you say, they do the exact same job as the Milwaukee tools for less money.

 

[kctyphoon]

As usual, you missed the point. How many tools has HF developed that they were first to market with? How many design patents have they filed or been awarded? You tout the superiority of Milwaukee of tools all the time, you must find their innovative products/features worth buying or you'd choose to stop getting ripped-off by Milwaukee and buy Bauer and Hercules cordless tools instead...as you say, they do the exact same job as the Milwaukee tools for less money.

Who cares???????? You're venturing into murky waters trying to compare tool carts to power tools? You're stance is the HF cart is inferior.. ok - that's your claim - so prove it.. present your case with some evidence of the how's and whys someone like me is better off spending $900 on a few pieces of bent metal.. I could give a **** about who patents something if someone else makes essentially the same thing that's just as durable for 1/6 the cost.

You guys make it out like "Milwaukee" is the uber brand in power tools. Well thanks - I'm flattered you admire my taste - but I buy milwaukee over brands like festool, snap on, and hilti for the very reasons I'd buy the HF cart over the blue point. I don't believe Milwaukee owns the patent on the electric drill, so I guess that means they **** after all.. lmao

 

[toddoky]

Who cares???????? You're venturing into murky waters trying to compare tool carts to power tools? Your stance is the HF cart is inferior.. ok - that's your claim - so prove it.. present your case with some evidence of the how's and whys someone like me is better off spending $900 on a few pieces of bent metal.. I could give a **** about who patents something if someone else makes essentially the same thing that's just as durable for 1/6 the cost.

I never mentioned the cart specifically and I wouldn't buy either one of them. I wouldn't buy the HF because it's too small and bolted together (I've owned one before) and I wouldn't buy the Blue Point because it is also too small and overpriced. Unlike yourself, I am not enlightened enough to know the specific reasons why each individual would choose to buy one cart over the other. Just because HF has a like item that is cheaper than another source does not make it the best option by default. If you don't give a **** about patents you really should look into dumping your Milwaukee tools since you're paying extra for those patents.

 

[Tonyuk]

If you like the cart get one, if not then dont.

My 'tool cart' is one of those roll around 2 tray plastic jobs, i find it perfect to just dump tools in which the the best use of a cart imo. I keep the tools in my box then just take out what i need for a certain job.

I keep grease etc.. on the bottom.

 

[Mr_B]

* I do much same with a trolley and have other ones for holing parts as cars stripped and sat waiting repair .
concept of tool cart seems silly as it just a rolling cabinet really.
I decided I would prefer a 36" to 42" workbench rolling cabinet over a tool cart as that worktop dump space is a must for my working methods, top of a tool cart would be useless to me .