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The cordless screwdriver looks like a behemoth compared to the latest model impacts. Maybe we'll get a new, compact version in 2019?
 
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Hi all!
Is this type of tools not used in USA?
www milwaukeetool eu / m12-fuel-sub-compact-percussion-drill-with-removable-chuck / m12-fpdx-eu / (sorry for this kind of link, i have not enough posts to write it in usual way)
Previous version BPDX also have no corresponding analogue on milwaukeetool.com
As for me, it would nice to buy such tool in some USA store, cause I do not know where to buy Milwaukee tools in Europe with so big discounts as USA stores offer from time to time.
 

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I've seen some speculation that some tools are allowing a bit more room around the 12.0s possibly for something even larger in the future.

Interesting 'cause the water pump has this rubber spacer that slides out to make for even more room
 

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Those swappable attachment tools arent that popular in the states, though I thought Milwaukee was going to bring the next gen one here.

Personally I dont like them, would rather just have all the tools instead of swapping heads. To me its a gimmicky idea which would cause more frustration than benefit and prone to more failures.

Hi all!
Is this type of tools not used in USA?
www milwaukeetool eu / m12-fuel-sub-compact-percussion-drill-with-removable-chuck / m12-fpdx-eu / (sorry for this kind of link, i have not enough posts to write it in usual way)
Previous version BPDX also have no corresponding analogue on milwaukeetool.com
As for me, it would nice to buy such tool in some USA store, cause I do not know where to buy Milwaukee tools in Europe with so big discounts as USA stores offer from time to time.
 

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Also I recently sent in via e-service the water pump for my non-profit for whom I volunteer. They use it to water 60+ canines several times per week.

It was getting tired (performance seemed down), leaking from the front viewing window and we wanted to fit 12.0s. I received a NIB unit today (pic'd above and already setup for 12.0s.

Hard to beat Milwaukee's warranty...
 

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Those swappable attachment tools arent that popular in the states, though I thought Milwaukee was going to bring the next gen one here.

Personally I dont like them, would rather just have all the tools instead of swapping heads. To me its a gimmicky idea which would cause more frustration than benefit and prone to more failures.

THIS! I can't even stand things like snap ring pliers w interchangeable tips, or even the magnetic 1/4 hex bit holders - I'd rather have a complete 1/4" hex SHANKED bit that I swap out.

It's just more little **** to lose...
 

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Hi all!
Is this type of tools not used in USA?
www milwaukeetool eu / m12-fuel-sub-compact-percussion-drill-with-removable-chuck / m12-fpdx-eu / (sorry for this kind of link, i have not enough posts to write it in usual way)
Previous version BPDX also have no corresponding analogue on milwaukeetool.com
As for me, it would nice to buy such tool in some USA store, cause I do not know where to buy Milwaukee tools in Europe with so big discounts as USA stores offer from time to time.

To all who follow, click here.

I haven't seen anything like this, it sure would be handy, assuming you keep all the pieces together.

We don't get the great sales that they do in the US either. All our sellers in Canada have the same price, a price that I believe is pretty close to their cost.
 

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I've seen some speculation that some tools are allowing a bit more room around the 12.0s possibly for something even larger in the future.

Interesting 'cause the water pump has this rubber spacer that slides out to make for even more room

Larger batteries are coming
 

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Larger batteries are coming

That's sort of a given, but I see them making existing sizes more powerful/efficient, such as upgrading the compact 2.0 to 21700 cells. I know many things are stationary so battery weight isn't as much of an issue, but the usefulness of a big battery diminishes when it becomes to big to use comfortably. I have a feeling given the option, think many would swap out their 9ah battery for the new 6.0 HO. Less weight, but more available power.

Ideally I'd like to have 2 compact batteries, 1 12ah, & the rest 6ah HO. Get rid of all my 5s & 9s.

edit: product idea! a cable that could daisy chain multiple batteries together (maybe a switch for parallel or series), then plug into the tool
 

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Looks like I am buying the new M18 Fuel Circ saw 12.0x2 kit on next 15% coupon. My friend wants to buy my 2731 saw ASAP. Wah wah but the new one is bigger and heavier.
 

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But I am not happyI have to lay the 12.0 down on its side in my battery drawer.

That's sort of a given, but I see them making existing sizes more powerful/efficient, such as upgrading the compact 2.0 to 21700 cells. I know many things are stationary so battery weight isn't as much of an issue, but the usefulness of a big battery diminishes when it becomes to big to use comfortably. I have a feeling given the option, think many would swap out their 9ah battery for the new 6.0 HO. Less weight, but more available power.

Ideally I'd like to have 2 compact batteries, 1 12ah, & the rest 6ah HO. Get rid of all my 5s & 9s.

edit: product idea! a cable that could daisy chain multiple batteries together (maybe a switch for parallel or series), then plug into the tool
 

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I'm good with M18 5.0,6.0,9.0,12.0 Gimme cheap M12 compact 3.0,4.0 or a M12 HO 9.0

If you want to say that you just want "9.0 Ah battery in 3cell compact size", I think, we all need to wait more than 10 years.

In case you just need additional cheap batteries, AFAIK, M12 batteries almost do not have electronics inside. So you need just some good case and cells. The cells are cheap now (here in Ukraine I was purchasing them for less than 3 USD/pcs for the electronics shop, my supplier was purchasing them in Europe from nkon.nl, and all they had their profit).
So, I think, in general, Chinese manufacturers are capable to make good and cheap M12 batteries, just need to find one that has good plastic and using original cells.
Now I am waiting for M12 2.0Ah and 4.0Ah copies from China, will test them on ZKE battery tester when they arrive. I have payed something about 40 USD for both of them, including shipping. Not a bad price, I think (in case batteries will be good).
 
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Personally I dont like them, would rather just have all the tools instead of swapping heads. To me its a gimmicky idea which would cause more frustration than benefit and prone to more failures.
I can't even stand things like snap ring pliers w interchangeable tips, or even the magnetic 1/4 hex bit holders - I'd rather have a complete 1/4" hex SHANKED bit that I swap out.
I also prefer separate tools but not in case when I need to put all of them into my bag "just in case". This tool could be handy in some tight-space situations (European cabinets are made in a different way than US one, it might be the reason why this type of tools are not popular in USA). But in my opinion it is still overpriced now: I found it only in 1 or 2 shops with price about 330 USD for kit with heads and batteries, it is possible to buy it without heads (why someone might need such variant?!) but no offers with heads and without charger and batteries.
 
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Looks like I am buying the new M18 Fuel Circ saw 12.0x2 kit on next 15% coupon. My friend wants to buy my 2731 saw ASAP. Wah wah but the new one is bigger and heavier.

In the same boat. Got someone that regularly buys from me & just asked for a circular saw (of course after I bugged him when they were $111 at HD). Now my option is to sell mine that looks like it was the display model at HD, and upgrade myself. I was hoping for a blade opposite of the current orientation, which would make me totally forget about the extra heft. I'd sell the 12's, and get 6's for the new circular if I go that route.
 

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So finally got some time to pay a little attention to this lineup of USB rechargeable lights. Liking the swivel head flashlight a lot

Now does anybody have the USB rechargeable 550-Lumen Pivoting Flood Light yet? (HD says backordered, ACME Tool says preorder :D)

Or it is just the rage right now to have that little magnetic clip light Rover because it comes with the xtra battery offer which seems like a pretty decent deal :headscrat

But what's the fanboy consensus here guys... is it any good? :spit:
I was just reading reviews on that Rover pocket light at the HD sight, seems the magnet's holding power was the biggest complaint over there.

And did I read that here that at least one said one unit didn't seem to charge right and was returning/exchanging it. :dunno:


Along with my M18 and M12 lights I have so many little LED battery lights around now really I have to wonder if I need more :lol: being that I sell a bunch of different ones on my flea mkt tool table, most are pretty bright @ 250 lumens or so but generally they are also cheaply made. Though one in the picture though is a metal cased HF Quantam light. Its is pretty decent.

And did have a case of 500 lumen LED mini floodlights on a swivel stand (used 3 AA batteries @ 2.5 hr run time) that I sold out of fast this summer around $20 ea. People were hot on them. I looked around but don't seem to have one for myself.


I do see there is a 2 year warranty on the batteries. What about the rest of it?
 

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So finally got some time to pay a little attention to this lineup of USB rechargeable lights. Liking the swivel head flashlight a lot

Now does anybody have the USB rechargeable 550-Lumen Pivoting Flood Light yet? (HD says backordered, ACME Tool says preorder :D)

Or it is just the rage right now to have that little magnetic clip light Rover because it comes with the xtra battery offer which seems like a pretty decent deal :headscrat

But what's the fanboy consensus here guys... is it any good? :spit:
I was just reading reviews on that Rover pocket light at the HD sight, seems the magnet's holding power was the biggest complaint over there.

And did I read that here that at least one said one unit didn't seem to charge right and was returning/exchanging it. :dunno:


Along with my M18 and M12 lights I have so many little LED battery lights around now really I have to wonder if I need more :lol: being that I sell a bunch of different ones on my flea mkt tool table, most are pretty bright @ 250 lumens or so but generally they are also cheaply made. Though one in the picture though is a metal cased HF Quantam light. Its is pretty decent.

And did have a case of 500 lumen LED mini floodlights on a swivel stand (used 3 AA batteries @ 2.5 hr run time) that I sold out of fast this summer around $20 ea. People were hot on them. I looked around but don't seem to have one for myself.


I do see there is a 2 year warranty on the batteries. What about the rest of it?


Lifetime warranty on the LEDS. The tool says limited lifetime under the specs on the MKE page.

I picked mine up last week, glad I did as no bonus packages are left, and it is a great light. The magnet at the end of it is really strong, but not worth a hoot when flatter against the material. The magnets on the back need an upgrade. It seems like they used multiple (probably 2) magnets on the back that are a fraction of the magnetism power that is on the end one. I think someone thought they could use two magnets 50% of the holding power of the end one, and would hold, but didn't realize there was no holding friction anymore. Wonder who tested it? and must have only tested on material that prevented sliding.

I would buy it again even with that defect, the bonus pack that is :) (at 10% off + 11% Menards rebate match). Full price/no bonus, I think I'd wait for the mini rover.
 
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Just seen this from another thread

Geez ain't this sad in a way...

Looks to be a total clone. Guess when the FUEL'S came out...they let it go and turned it out :pimpflash

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074P53VYN/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Have you noticed Husky is offering one in the holiday swing area of HDs right now? Not saying it's an exact clone, I just think it's funny people kinda scoffed at the concept at first, now everyone wants on board.
 

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Have you noticed Husky is offering one in the holiday swing area of HDs right now? Not saying it's an exact clone, I just think it's funny people kinda scoffed at the concept at first, now everyone wants on board.

Ya a thread was posted early with a Tool Craze link and I seen the ad for this one at the bottom of the page...the similarity here is just way to close :lol:


Write up on the Husky offering says has a non removable/replaceable battery though :wtf:


Liking you got the pump replaced.

I need to get a retrofit on mine also
 

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I've got the m12 XC battery that I run my 1/4" impact with at work. I use it for everything from screws to drill bits all day and can usually kill the battery each day. I've been looking a little at the m12 6.0 battery. Do you guys think it will be much better? Is it worth the extra cash? I would like it to last longer and if it has more power that's great but not to concerned about power...
 

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I must have been asleep ! When did they come out with the M12 3.0 Ah Compact battery ? Pricey little devils !

They've been out for over a year, along with the 6.0 XC packs. And yeah the price is crazy high. I can pick up 6.0s on ebay for the price of a 3.0 pack. I'd like to have one or two for my heated gear but not at those prices.

I've got the m12 XC battery that I run my 1/4" impact with at work. I use it for everything from screws to drill bits all day and can usually kill the battery each day. I've been looking a little at the m12 6.0 battery. Do you guys think it will be much better? Is it worth the extra cash? I would like it to last longer and if it has more power that's great but not to concerned about power...

I don't notice any extra power between the 4.0 and 6.0, you'll just get longer run time. Is it worth it is only a question you can answer. If you have plenty of 4.0s already then I wouldn't bother. But if you need more batteries then I would get the 6.0s.
 

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They've been out for over a year, along with the 6.0 XC packs. And yeah the price is crazy high. I can pick up 6.0s on ebay for the price of a 3.0 pack. I'd like to have one or two for my heated gear but not at those prices.

The main reason I went with M12 was light weight so I am not about to buy any of the XC packs.

If I could find a used M12 1.5 cheap, I think I would try rebuilding it myself.
 

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The main reason I went with M12 was light weight so I am not about to buy any of the XC packs.

If I could find a used M12 1.5 cheap, I think I would try rebuilding it myself.

I like the XC's for my circ saw, hackzall, jigsaw and vacuum (it balances better). And depending on what I'm drilling I might throw one in the drill for the extra power.
 
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I've been looking a little at the m12 6.0 battery. Do you guys think it will be much better? Is it worth the extra cash? I would like it to last longer and if it has more power that's great but not to concerned about power...

I think it should not give you more power. Moreover, it theoretically could be even weaker.
Hi-capacity cells usually have less max-current ratings. Probably, Milwaukee use Samsung cells, and their INR18650-20R (2.0Ah) and INR18650-25R (2.5Ah) cells are rated for 20A continuous discharge while INR18650-30Q (3.0Ah) is rated for only 15A. LG declare 20A for their HG2 3.0Ah cells but, when I was testing them, real performance of Samsung 30Q was better.
So, as for maximum power it should be something like this: 3.0Ah Compact battery is the weakest (15A continuous discharge) < 2.0Ah Compact Battery (20A) < 6.0Ah XC battery (30A) < 4.0Ah XC battery is the best with 40A max continuous discharge rate. But not every tool need so many power and, I think, impact driver should not change the performance with any of these cells, only run-time will be different.
 
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The 2438 sander runs stronger and longer w the 6.0 over anything else. I can tell you this as someone who uses it for several days several times per month when processing large orders.

For most of these tools max discharge is less important than duration or when voltage starts to drop off. The 6.0 just seems to stay in the sweet spot the longest.

Paper quarterbacking is always fun but I live in my shop in the real world, building actual things to pay actual bills.

Just ordered the 6.0/3.0 combo at HD, thanks 2manytools! Seems I never have a 6.0 available in the shop when I need it, and between myself and my gf all my 3.0s are always in heated gear or charging.
 

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I like the USB Rover, the magnet is decent but I did knock it off once into a bucket of coolant. After drying it, it still worked, but finally died from corrosion inside. Brought to service center and they gave me a new one.

The non M12/M18 lights have a limited lifetime warranty.

I dont understand why they are making all these USB lights in AAA/AA versions. I think issues with charging are related to people using cheap cables. I use the one Milwaukee supplied but sadly its short. Its plugged into the USB on my Milwaukee 52 bench box or the M18 jobsite radio USB plug.

The USB lights are nice, pricey yes, and run time isn't the best. Glad I now have a spare battery with my 2nd USB rover.

So finally got some time to pay a little attention to this lineup of USB rechargeable lights. Liking the swivel head flashlight a lot

Now does anybody have the USB rechargeable 550-Lumen Pivoting Flood Light yet? (HD says backordered, ACME Tool says preorder :D)

Or it is just the rage right now to have that little magnetic clip light Rover because it comes with the xtra battery offer which seems like a pretty decent deal :headscrat

But what's the fanboy consensus here guys... is it any good? :spit:
I was just reading reviews on that Rover pocket light at the HD sight, seems the magnet's holding power was the biggest complaint over there.

And did I read that here that at least one said one unit didn't seem to charge right and was returning/exchanging it. :dunno:


Along with my M18 and M12 lights I have so many little LED battery lights around now really I have to wonder if I need more :lol: being that I sell a bunch of different ones on my flea mkt tool table, most are pretty bright @ 250 lumens or so but generally they are also cheaply made. Though one in the picture though is a metal cased HF Quantam light. Its is pretty decent.

And did have a case of 500 lumen LED mini floodlights on a swivel stand (used 3 AA batteries @ 2.5 hr run time) that I sold out of fast this summer around $20 ea. People were hot on them. I looked around but don't seem to have one for myself.


I do see there is a 2 year warranty on the batteries. What about the rest of it?
 

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I think I'm done for '18
Recent additions is 3/8 stubby, underhood, mid torque, Super Sawzall and new Gen 3 hammer and impact. Nothing else I don't already have
 

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I just got the Milwaukee 2554-20 M12 3/8” Impact.
Anyone know where I can get a rubber boot for it? Having a hard time finding one, but maybe it’s just me. LOL
 

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I was at the HD today and I came across the Milwaukee straight jaw and v jaw pliers, anyone have any idea if they are worth the money? Thanks
 
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