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Is there a better show anywhere than the Circuit Revival or the Festival Of Speed?

Glad you're enjoying the thread so much. :thumbup:

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You keep asking these questions....

& the answer is "yes".. Flying Legends at Duxford...in July.

Heres the trailer for the '09 show (filmed at the '08 show):

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How many can you identify? ;)


BTW, we ran the Tigercat on Thursday... & hosed down someones Gulfstream with AeroShell 120 :)
 
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thanks for showing more pics of the car.
I'll have to go the the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race this year when it comes to Stanton.
 

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Twenty five years ago I had an old country farm welder build a trailer for me. The only drill press he had was one of those old belt drives converted to a small electric motor. His shop was a basic pole barn and the drill was mounted to the side of one of the posts. He had it set up to run really slow. It drilled fine and was easy on the bits. Clean yours up and if you don't use it then put it on display.
 

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Thomas: I hope this does'nt sound too creepy but take some of the crud off of the old parts being restored and sweep it up and put it in "Mason pint jars, for the true gear heads to smell when they come by to visit. I remember that smell of real gasoline in the late 60's, back when you could still buy premium or as we always called it "Ethel". Can't get that smell back, nowadays!
Just my .02, and we are all still awaiting your next threads on the restorations, also maybe just shoot some with clearcoat, so they still have the patina. Thanks D.J.:headscrat
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BB767/ Thomas, this is a fantastic thread- thank you very much for taking the time to show it to all of us. It is things like this that drew me to this forum, and it has been an absolute pleasure watching it all progress, as well as seeing the before and after pics. I've driven people mad talking about it at work, and I hope to do so for a lot longer! Thanks again!

That's the modern world for you. Some good, innocent folks in New Zealand are being driven mad from the strange behavior of some guy in a little town in the middle of the United States!

BTW, closest I ever got to New Zealand was Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea. That was when I was flying for Air Micronesia in the late 80's, based in Guam. Close being a relative term here! Need to come visit that area of the world!! World's fastest Indian and all that you know! :D

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first of all : I love wat you have done with the place:bounce:
and i love the variable speed on the camelback drill press,don't get rid of it
refurbisch it ,put an motor on and place it back in your shop . you wil love it.
if you want to know more about it,ask it on practicalmachinist /antiq :
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/forumdisplay.php/antique-machinery-and-history-19.html
ps sorry for my bad englisch as i'm dutch


regards wim jan boon

Why you!!!! Now we all have ANOTHER forum to check out and consume our time with. LOL Thanks for the link, none the less. Being a Tool & Die Maker, I know this one will eat up gobs of my time. I'm not complaining though, really. This is all great stuff to be admired & inspired by. Thank you Thomas and all who've added to this wonderful thread.

P.S. Does Chris have an available sister?
 
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I drove by that property a lot growing up in Sidney, IL and going to school at Unit 7, and I never even noticed that there was a shop back there! You've done a Fantastic job on the rebuild. Congrats on all the hard work paying off.

Daniel

For those of you who don't know, Sidney is a little town similar to Philo located 5 miles away. To get to the high school in Unit 7 called - Unity High School, Daniel occasionally drove down this road which is in front of the shop.

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Just to the left is the family home and shop.

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This picture was taken after the sale contact had been signed and before I took possession. This would be October, 2005. My treasure just waiting for me to bring it back to life. That curved power pole is the one I climbed to take the overhead pictures seen on page 5 in post #98 of this thread. The rock drive way leads to the back of the shop and now to my new barn.The white building in the background is the family home. The shop, further left out of frame, was even more buried which is why, when Daniel drove by on his way to school, he never even knew that the shop was in there.

BTW the large ash tree toward the left on the other side of the rock drive way is the one with a chain around one of it's limbs. See it on page 5, post #98, second and third pictures if you like.


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Wonder how many engines were pulled using this and a come-along . I did removed the tree. It was not very healthy and too close to the driveway.

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New replacement power pole and the ash tree is gone.

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Taken in 2008, three years after the top pictures.

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Thomas...... I remember reading on one of the past pages that you are building your retirement home there? Is there not a house on the property now or are you going to build a new one? IIRC I thought I seen one pic that had a newer barn and a house to the right of that all behind your shop.

Similar to this picture?

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The new barn is lurking in the background. Yes there is the old family home out there, part of it seen just to the right, behind the fire hydrant.

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Here is the homestead from around 1939. The house was built around the turn of the century. Originally it was just four rooms.

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As the family grew ( 8 eventually ) they needed more space. Mr Johnson remodeled the home. He added an upstairs and also jacked the house up and dug a basement under it. See the shop in the background on the left? BTW, that mail box is still there, the Johnson's name is still on it. I will change it but that's not an easy thing to do. The Johnson family have had a mail box with their name on it on top of that hill for close to 70 years, Mrs. Johnson having passed in 2008.

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The above two pictures were taken right after the remodeling in the early 1950's. That's the side of the original shop in the background. The lift hadn't been enclosed yet.

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Here is the home from the late 1960's. It is now functionally obsolete, not suitable for our retirement home. We don't want any steps, newer utility technologies etc. Also we want it positioned back from the road, further in the woods. The family knew we would be tearing it down and all agree it's time for that home to go.

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first of all : I love wat you have done with the place:bounce:
and i love the variable speed on the camelback drill press,don't get rid of it
refurbisch it ,put an motor on and place it back in your shop . you wil love it.
if you want to know more about it,ask it on practicalmachinist /antiq :
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/forumdisplay.php/antique-machinery-and-history-19.html
ps sorry for my bad englisch as i'm dutch


regards wim jan boon

Wim Jan Boon, first of all, please don't apologize for your English, it is so much better than my Dutch!!! Thank you for replying and bringing that idea to my attention and the link to antique machinery . I hadn't thought of doing that to the press. I will keep it for now and give the idea some thought. The problem might be time and the lack of it. I have much to do and little time to do it all in! :willy_nil


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That sounds like a great idea. You might want the following picture below also.

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It was taken at the same time as your wall paper picture just a little further to the east. Family told that this was in the late '60'/early 70's.

Thomas

That picture is from about the mid 70's . Look at the truck it gives it away .;)
 
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You keep asking these questions....

& the answer is "yes".. Flying Legends at Duxford...in July.

Heres the trailer for the '09 show (filmed at the '08 show):

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How many can you identify? ;)


BTW, we ran the Tigercat on Thursday... & hosed down someones Gulfstream with AeroShell 120 :)

Well, now see.... I was just trying to keep this automotive related. I didn't want a PM telling me what's with all the aviation stuff. This is " Garage Journal ", not " Hanger Haven " or " Aircraft For Airheads " some such!! You are correct of course, Duxford is right up there as a fantastic show as only the English can!

I'd have paid money to see that Gulfstream get doused!! Even more to see the owner come back and find it...... christened shall we say. :D

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That picture is from about the mid 70's . Look at the truck it gives it away .;)

Good eye, the daughter gave me the picture and she only guessed when it was taken. I don't know much about Ford trucks from back then. Thanks.

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BTW, that mail box is still there, the Johnson's name is still on it. I will change it but that's not an easy thing to do. The Johnson family have had a mail box with their name on it on top of that hill for close to 70 years, Mrs. Johnson having passed in 2008.
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Just install a new one with your name on it nearby & leave theirs where it is?




Well, now see.... I was just trying to keep this automotive related. I didn't want a PM telling me what's with all the aviation stuff. This is " Garage Journal ", not " Hanger Haven " or " Aircraft For Airheads " some such!! You are correct of course, Duxford is right up there as a fantastic show as only the English can!

I'd have paid money to see that Gulfstream get doused!! Even more to see the owner come back and find it...... christened shall we say. :D

Thomas
That's the great thing about this place it's *garage* journal, not *automotive* journal, so all things *shed worthy* & involving tools are allowed.

3 months ago someone elses private 727 got hosed with the DC3 :) VNY is Gulfstream Central, there's over 100 of them based there. Luckily not all there at the same time.
 
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There's an old Dodge garage on I70 just east of Columbia, MO that I would love to own. It's part of a farm operation but they keep the building up. It's straight outta the 50's. I'll take some pics when we go to St. Louis next time.

Is that garage on the south side of I-70, set back about 50 yards from the frontage road, just about 1/2 mile west of the north/south road that goes over I-70?

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Just read the whole thread. This is an amazing restoration. I envy anyone who has a shop especially now when there is 9 inches of snow on the ground. Great work.
 

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I've told the family many times it will always be their dad's shop, I am just the present caretaker. His presence is always there. The entrance door is in the same spot, his welder is just inside to the right as before, Pepsi machine in it's designated spot as well, his cast iron welders bench is within inches of where he placed it, through the doorway is the lift, his " CASH only " sign over the tool box etc. These are my memories too from my past history of being in there at a very young impressionable age. This shop may have had a bigger impact on my life than I know. It's just a very special place to me.



I have to say, this is my favorite thread ever posted in this forum. While I'm truly blown away at the craftsmanship in every aspect of the restoration, what touches me the most is the respect that you've paid to the Johnson family and to your own father. It seems to me, as I browse through so many pictures of the build, that you're a very family-oriented person, and hold a lot of respect to those who've influenced your life.

For that, Sir, I take my hat off to you.

Looking at the final product, I can picture the completion of a long day of work, tools scattered about, and a rugged figure of an older man with hands of leather pausing by the workbench to sip a Pepsi before heading into the house for dinner with his family. It's more than obvious to me that you built this place to share with that old man, should his spirit decide to drop in and look over your shoulder as you skin your knuckle on a part clamped in the vice, just as he had done so many times before.

Thanks so much for this thread, the pictures and descriptions, and the inspiration. I hope that some young boy in your town is equally inspired by these events, and is moved in the future to preserve the history of a time gone by, and a place remembered for what it used to be.
 
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Just read the whole thread. This is an amazing restoration. I envy anyone who has a shop especially now when there is 9 inches of snow on the ground. Great work.

Oh we get snow here too!!

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This is the front of the new barn I've mentioned. It's all heated inside so let it snow!! Also, you know me and car ports. Just can't get enough of them it seems so I put one on the barn. The "old" shop is back to the left.

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This is the front of the new barn I've mentioned. It's all heated inside so let it snow!! Also, you know me and car ports. Just can't get enough of them it seems so I put one on the barn. The "old" shop is back to the left.

Now that you've showed the new barn. You do know that WE NEED PICS of it also.

As far as the original house, you say you are going to tear it down. Any plans on recycling any of it also? I know that a house doesn't have as good of things either internally or structurally as good as your resurrected building, but as much as you've saved and redone, I just wondered if you had plans to save any of the house? Or just 'doze it and be done with it?
Are you currently living in it now? And when the new one gets started, you do know that WE WILL NEED PICS!!!! :lol_hitti
 

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Now that you've showed the new barn. You do know that WE NEED PICS of it also.

As far as the original house, you say you are going to tear it down. Any plans on recycling any of it also? I know that a house doesn't have as good of things either internally or structurally as good as your resurrected building, but as much as you've saved and redone, I just wondered if you had plans to save any of the house? Or just 'doze it and be done with it?
Are you currently living in it now? And when the new one gets started, you do know that WE WILL NEED PICS!!!! :lol_hitti

another option would be to gut the old house & turn it into an office / storage space if the county will let you build another house on the property. more space always trumps less space. :beer:
 

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I was in Town visiting the family this weekend and drove by the garage. You've done a Flat out amazing job. What you've done to that property has cleaned up the apperance of that whole section of town. You should be very proud of what you've done, and I'm sure the family is happy seeing someone get more use out of their old property.
 
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Floor Treatment: Part I
The existing concrete was structurally all fairly solid with few cracks. Cosmetically though, it was lacking. You can well imagine what 40, 50 in some cases 60+ years of doing dirty, greasy work out there had done to the concrete. Before I had decided how the floors would be finished I knew that I had to clean them first. The hardest part of this operation was that the shop had to be totally cleaned out of everything. As you've seen is previous pictures I tended to move equipment from one work area to another. Now it all had to be removed. I waited for a good, dry day to do this.

A portable steam " hotsy " was rented. For those who don't know, this is a machine that heats water to near boiling (steam) and a pump that puts it under high pressure, about 2400 psi (pounds per square inch). I don't know the metric conversion for our international members. In short, the water gets real hot and has a lot of force. Next a good sweep with a broom followed by a blow from a gas powered leaf blower to get the fine dust out. The lift was raised and the exposed cylinder was wrapped in plastic sheeting. Then I took Simple Green ( a concentrated cleaner/degreaser ) and spread it over all the grease/oil stains and let it soak for a while. Then I used some more cleaner and this time agitated it with a stiff, bristle brush. Then the hotsy was fired up, the nozzle placed close to the floor and the floors were then blasted to lift and remove deep down grease and oil, much like what you would do when cleaning your living room carpet, or then again, maybe not. :wtf: We used a squeegee to move the dirty water out. Once this was done, we did it all over a second time to catch spots we may have missed the first time. We also applied bleach and Simple Green to the walls, using a stiff brush on a handle and cleaned the walls down at the same time. There were spots on the walls, which were still bare concrete block at this time, where there was mold and mildew that needed bleach while the floors didn't. The change in the floors and shop in general was rather dramatic.

Using box fans to move air, the floors were dried. There were areas that were still stained. For these, I used some concentrated concrete cleaner. This is material that has the consistency of pancake batter. It was poured over the stains and let sit over night. The next morning it had dried, pulling up oil and grease which I then vacuumed up with a shop vac. The worst places I had to do this 3 - 4 times but I finally got the floor clean and degreased.

As I've mentioned, concrete is functional but cold appearing and fine concrete dust never goes away. I had done another garage a couple years previous, and had used a 2 part epoxy floor paint. However, I didn't feel it would be durable enough over the years. It looks good when first applied and for home garage use it's adequate but for heavy use I don't think it holds up. This was in 2006 so there may be better products out now, I don't know. I finally decided that VCT, vinyl, composite tile would be the best compromise for I what I needed. This is the same tile used in warehouses, grocery stores etc. It's inexpensive, easily repairable and has a wide range of color options. An all light color would show spots and tire marks too easily and black and white is a somewhat " classic " look so that's what I used. Love it or hate it, it's there and it's worked out very well. It is extremely easy to keep clean. Liquids, oil, grease especially clean up well. I use 1/4", 4' X 8' sheets of Masonite to protect it when doing heavy duty work or rolling heavy equipment across it and that has been fine. I do need to put something under car tires when sitting for more than a few minutes, otherwise the rubber will transfer dark tire tread marks to the white tile. Black tiles seem fine. This shop is not used for commercial purposes so I don't mind " fussing " with it on occasion.

More in Part II.

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Thomas: I hope this does'nt sound too creepy but take some of the crud off of the old parts being restored and sweep it up and put it in "Mason pint jars, for the true gear heads to smell when they come by to visit. I remember that smell of real gasoline in the late 60's, back when you could still buy premium or as we always called it "Ethel". Can't get that smell back, nowadays!
Just my .02, and we are all still awaiting your next threads on the restorations, also maybe just shoot some with clearcoat, so they still have the patina. Thanks D.J.:headscrat

That doesn't sound creepy at all. Real gear heads would understand immediately! It's amazing what memories just a whiff of that old shop smell brings back. Same with the smell of " high test " gasoline. Thanks for the suggestion.

As for keeping patina, I'm all for keeping items as original as possible............to a point. We've all seen " Antiques Road Show " where there is a nasty, upholstery all torn up, wreak of a chair being displayed and the commentator saying don't touch a thing it is so wonderful! Boy, if it looks terrible, been neglected and is non functional because of deferred repairs that's where I draw the line. The lift worked just fine, but it was rusty from one end to the other. It had boat loads of patina but if you just touch it and it'd leave rust residue all over your hand. There was no original finish left to preserve. Same with the Walker floor jack. Most of the old finish is gone and paint does preserve and prevent rust so I'm restoring it. The old Sun Distributor machine you've seen in the background is still very nice and I wouldn't dream of redoing it. It's a judgment call. What really frosts my cake is when some rich cat takes a wonderful, original 95+ out of 100 point car and does a " full frame off restoration ". That's almost criminal. Look at all that lost history. Criminal I tell you, criminal! :rant:

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You keep asking these questions....

& the answer is "yes".. Flying Legends at Duxford...in July.

Heres the trailer for the '09 show (filmed at the '08 show):

More:

How many can you identify? ;)


BTW, we ran the Tigercat on Thursday... & hosed down someones Gulfstream with AeroShell 120 :)

BTW thank you for the youtube link to Duxford. It's hard not to get a lump in your throat or a tear in your eye when you see and hear those magnificent machines come to life and take to the air. And you get to do it routinely! Better to be lucky than good any day! And in your case both!! ;)

Thomas
 

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Well today wasn't much fun, Electrickery on the DC2... :(

But at least now we'll have fuel gages that work... instead of staying on *full* for ages & then plummeting from full to empty in about 2 seconds. I'm told the pilots & co pilots eyeballs got REALLY big when it turned into a glider on the flight down to VNY. They were circling a USN sub coming out of SanFran Bay at the time which could have some pretty epic consequences... ;)
 
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Looking at the final product, I can picture the completion of a long day of work, tools scattered about, and a rugged figure of an older man with hands of leather pausing by the workbench to sip a Pepsi before heading into the house for dinner with his family. It's more than obvious to me that you built this place to share with that old man, should his spirit decide to drop in and look over your shoulder as you skin your knuckle on a part clamped in the vice, just as he had done so many times before.

A very thoughtful and insightful reply. You might have more insight into this than you realize. ........." should his spirit decide to drop in and look over your shoulder "......... I'm just going to retell the facts as they occurred.

The property consists of close to 5 acres which I have cleaned up over the last few years. The backyard behind the family home was full of material and overgrown as was the other acreage. I've yet to post those pictures, but I think everyone gets the idea of what it was like. I've been all over that yard by now, literary hundreds of times, clearing and cleaning. For the last couple of years, especially around the house I've had it all cleaned up and looking very nice. I've got grass there now that has been mowed for the last 2-3 years. Last spring I was walking the property as I do several times a week to pick up mostly small tree branches in preparation for mowing. On my way back to the shop by way of the back yard I was about 30 feet from the back of the family house when I spotted what at first glance was a small piece on paper I had missed while doing my clean up. As I got closer, this is what I found laying on top of the grass, face up and not down in the grass but right on top of it.



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It's a name tag from one of Mr. Johnson's shirts.

Where it came from I have no idea at all. There is nothing left around there anymore for it to be trapped under, nothing at all. It was just laying in the backyard grass, face up. It's not a new tag, but one he wore. This happened this last May, 2009, about 3 1/2 years after I bought the property. While you can't escape his presence in the shop, after all there are his machines, tools etc. reminders all around in the shop, the yard is different.

I've never mentioned this incident before but your reply and it's sharp, vivid, mental imagery immediately made me think of this incident. So there you have it, take from that what you will as I have done and leave it at that.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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I always believed that where a person lived and raised a family for years and years, they always will leave reminders behind for someone else. Is it ghost. Probably not. But the spirits have ways of communicating, I would say Virgil would be proud as you have done what he could not do. Life may have been simpler back then but tougher and to raise 8 in the family as you said he did along with adding on to the house, and having a business, he probably was pretty well strapped from time to time. So now he can take that leisurely stroll through the yard with you.
And don't be surprised that when you eventually tear into the house, you will find other pieces of history that Mr. Johnson will tell you about. The hidden note, a hidden picture, an overlooked newspaper clipping that will bring about more history into light.
 

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I love the shop and all the pictures you've posted. Keep them coming. In fact, it was this thread that I saw somewhere else that led me here.

One question about the lift. I like the nostalgia of it and it fits great with the period of the whole garage, but it just doesn't seem like you can get much work done with it. How do you remove tires, work on brakes, exhaust work, remove transmissions, etc...? I think you would also need to have a modern 2 post electric frame contact lift as well.

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a name tag from one of Mr. Johnson's shirts.

When I took over my shop five years ago it had been in the same family from the time it had been built in 1948. It was an Esso gas station from the beginning, right up until Exxon pulled out in 85. It had been passed down from father to son, with the mother pumping gas right up until they discontinued gas in 86. There was all manor of things inside, but not as many as you'd think ( One was a really heavy 15 yr service award plaque from Esso). The one thing I did find was the fathers Coast Guard dog tags. I also have one of his old jump suits with the garage name on the back.
 

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Re. the nametag, you might consider having it sewn onto a shirt or a pair of coveralls that you could use in the garage. Just a thought.

(you remind me of my uncle "Red" - the hardest working sonofagon I have ever met. A mechanical engineer by trade, he also ran a five acre spread - to a state of immaculate perfection, in the eyes of a small boy. Never saw him watching tv. Never saw him doing anything but working.)
 
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Floor Treatment : Part II

See Post # 464 for Part I

I now had a clean, oil and grease free floor or as oil and grease free as possible. The floor had very few cracks and was quite level. To repair the cracks we used a masonry repair epoxy and to level the floor a bit better a concrete grinder was rented and then we went over the whole floor removing the high spots. It also ground the top layer of the floor a little to expose fresh concrete and made grooves so there would be more surface area for the next step.

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Fab room here. The lift can be seen through the doorway. The repaired crack shown here was the only major crack in the original shop floor.

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You can faintly see the grooves in the floor from the grinder. They run from the overhead toward the back of the shop.

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Other side of the fab room. What appears to be stains is just the way the photograph came out. Compare the above and below pictures of the same room.

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Other end of fab room. That's a score line down the middle of the floor that was put in the floor when it was poured back in the '30's.

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This is the north room. Just one long longitudinal crack repaired which was really the score line but it was pretty ragged so we repaired it. That '57 Chevy in the background doesn't look that bad does it? Couldn't give it away so it was junked!! This picture also shows a sheen to the floor. A primer has been laid down in preparation for the application of a self-lever. This primer was also a sealer to prevent oil or grease from coming back to the surface and dissolving the tile adhesive.

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Here the self-leveler is being used to build up a low spot. The floor area where it transitions from the original shop to the 1958 addition wasn't too level. To minimize that, the self-lever helped ramp to the different levels. You can see where the outside wall of the original shop was cut to make the opening for the north room just to the left.

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Go with your strengths. I'd never tiled a floor from an old automotive shop and the potential for problems was such that I hired professionals to tile it. They took over starting with the application of the primer which was rolled on with a paint roller.

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Looking back into the shop. We did the shop in three sections. Starting with the north room, then the fab room, finishing up with the lift room. I had to move equipment from from one area to another while this was being done.

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The fab room here. All the equipment is back in the north room while this is being tiled.

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Lift room of course.

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That shelving on the wall was made by Mr.Johnson for that spot. I just cleaned and repainted it and reinstalled it. The white pipe to the right of the shelf carries the wiring from the lift pump to the circuit panel box.


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The two above pictures show the tile being formed for the base of the lift cabinet.



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The skillful work necessary to cut, form and install the tile is seen here.

After this the tile was scrubbed clean with a power scrubber as it comes with a protective coating and then I applied 5 coats of wax to protect it.

Key to success here was degreasing the floor thoroughly to start. I vacuumed the whole floor just prior to the sealer being applied so there would be no debris. Using a sealer that would prevent petroleum based products from resurfacing from deep in the concrete. Also because the property is on a hill there is never any moisture build up under the concrete. When I pour new concrete for interior areas I always use a vapor barrier. Thankfully, since I doubt one was used here, the topography saved me. If there was a problem with moisture I probably wouldn't have tiled it.

Thomas
 
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What really frosts my cake is when some rich cat takes a wonderful, original 95+ out of 100 point car and does a " full frame off restoration ". That's almost criminal. Look at all that lost history. Criminal I tell you, criminal! :rant:

Thomas

I totally agree!


Your shop is outstanding, your attention to detail is amazing!
 
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Just install a new one with your name on it nearby & leave theirs where it is?

We're dealing with the United States Postal Service here. I really don't think that would " fly " so to speak. Only one mail box per property/household I'm thinking. :dunno:

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Now that you've showed the new barn. You do know that WE NEED PICS of it also.

As far as the original house, you say you are going to tear it down. Any plans on recycling any of it also? I know that a house doesn't have as good of things either internally or structurally as good as your resurrected building, but as much as you've saved and redone, I just wondered if you had plans to save any of the house? Or just 'doze it and be done with it?
Are you currently living in it now? And when the new one gets started, you do know that WE WILL NEED PICS!!!! :lol_hitti

Kevin I guess that goes without saying re: the pics :D Not to worry!

As for recycling the family home, we have a strong architectural preservation society here in our area. They will come in and remove any useful hardware, doors, trim and other items on buildings built before 1950 I believe. I've already found someone who is going to move the two car garage seen in the background and the " Honey House ". Mr. Johnson was a bee keeper of long standing and at one point had about 75 hives out back. He was president of the Illinois Bee Keeper Society in the 60's. The Honey House was where he harvested the honey. A semi truck would come after harvest to collect all the 1 gallon cans he'd fill with honey. A family member took all that equipment.

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There were many jars of honey still in the Honey House labeled with the type and year. Here are a few. You can't read the one to the right but it's lid says " 1940 clover sweet & white "

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BTW, honey never goes bad. They've found it buried in tombs from 2,000 years ago and it's still safe to eat. But I digress.............

We'll save what can be used and the rest disposed of. We did a quick remodel of the kitchen and bath and the house is currently being used.

Thomas
 
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I love the shop and all the pictures you've posted. Keep them coming. In fact, it was this thread that I saw somewhere else that led me here.

One question about the lift. I like the nostalgia of it and it fits great with the period of the whole garage, but it just doesn't seem like you can get much work done with it. How do you remove tires, work on brakes, exhaust work, remove transmissions, etc...? I think you would also need to have a modern 2 post electric frame contact lift as well.

Shawn

Shawn, good question of how that is done. Bottles jacks are used under each corner of the car to do tire or brake work. For transmisstion work here's how................

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Note how the car is positioned on the lift. That's it's Muncie to the right, draining it's bodily fluids.

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There are two support stands, left and right positioned in the front of the lift.

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That allows the car to be moved forward so the front tires touch the wheel chocks.

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With the car forward on the lift there is complete access to the transmission now.

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The lift had a slow leak and the previous owner fabricated these supports to help hold the lift up. Since I fixed that leak and the lift now stays put, this is how I use them. I raise the car normally. Then I position the auxiliary supports ( aux sup ) we'll call them, under the front of the lift and gently lower the lift to them. When it's contacting the aux sup, it's also engaging the bottom tab of the safety leg coincidentally. Next I roll the car forward on the ramp until it touches the front wheel chock. With the car positioned this way I can do any necessary work under the front haft of the car easily.

BTW, isn't it great to see the shop being used for what it was built for?;)

Now as to your other statement " I think you would also need to have a modern 2 post electric frame contact lift as well " , I couldn't agree more. So.....................



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Hi Thomas.

Thanks for sharing so much detail of the shop restore...it's a truly fantastic read. From the items that you saved from the original shop to new touches you have added, it's been great fun. I've really enjoyed it and can tell from your posts that it was a labor of love for you and your family.

It's really great that you have memories of this place as a kid to an adult...really cool.

Love the classic Bow-ties as well! Big fan of the classic Chevrolet (in case you couldn't tell from my screen name). The Vette has been in my family since '62 - my Dad traded in his '56 Bel Air vert for it. We're also keepers of a highly modded '65 Impala SS that my wife's Grandfather bought new in '65.

Take care and I continue to look forward to reading more.

Randy

Geez - never realized that I haven't posted here since I joined the site in '06. Oh well - think this thread is certainly worthy of a first post.
 
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