On the Snap-On Truck

[JonDick13926]

What tools you are going to buy should depend on what you plan to do with those tools. As someone who spent years working on cars, I bought a lot of Snap On stuff as well as other high end US brands like Wright, Proto, and SK. I used those tools 8-10 hours per day. Quality wise, I never had a problem out of any of it. The difference was that I didn't have Wright, SK, or Proto coming to the shop each week making sure my tools were all good and asking if I needed anything else. Snap On was convenient and brought good quality straight to me.

What do I use at work now? The cheapest I can find, that's what. I work in industrial maintenance in a refrigerated factory where you and your tools get soaked as soon as you walk out onto the production floor to fix something. Tools rust, get lost/stolen frequently, etc. All of my good stuff sits in my home garage now and I buy my tools from Menards/Lowes/HD.

I doubt I'll ever buy Snap On again unless I end up in an environment where that convenience returns. If I still want good tools that are SLIGHTLY more affordable then I know where to go (online).

 

[ngk22r]

This is totally rude. Do you have some personal grudge?

Mods, please close this down and ban this guy.


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[3baygarage]

Yeah, I think a lot of snap on hate stems from jealousy. Either people can't afford them, or have no accessibility to them. Or they don't really need them. This same type of jealousy can apply to anything else in life like cars, houses, clothes, etc. But this is Garage Journal so we talk about tools.

I've been getting paid to work on cars for a living since 1989. I've been in both independent shops and dealers. Every shop I've been in for the past 30 years, 90% of those guys have tools and toolboxes from either snap on, mac or matco. My tools at work are a mix of brands, mostly from the tool trucks. I have no loyalty to any one brand, but I try to buy the best. Snap on in my opinion is one of the best. Anyone looking to make a career in this should also try to buy the best tools available. I would estimate my work tools are valued at close to $100k. Sure I owed a lot initially when I was a kid making payments every week. But it was a good investment and has been paid off for decades. I'll still buy stuff now and then, but usually just pay in full. If I ever have a truck balance now, it's usually no more than a couple hundred dollars.

I've got other good brands in my work toolbox like William's, sk, proto. I don't even remember where I bought them from. If and when they break, I have no idea where to get any of these tools warrantied or replaced. I don't need the hassle or have the time to be running around trying to get them warrantied. When my tool truck brands break, I give it to my dealer and he gives me a replacement. I've never had an issue in 30 years of getting anything warrantied from snap on, matco or mac.

I do a lot of side jobs at home and my toolboxs in my garage are from Menards and Home depot. Less than 10% of my home tools are tool truck brands. The tools are a mix of Craftsman, harbor freight, gearwrench, menards brand, ebay and Amazon purchased tools, etc. Total value of my home tools is fraction of what my work tools are worth. If they break, they're cheap and I'll just toss them out and buy another. Sure these tools work but I find more often than not that I'm cussing them out wishing I had a certain work tool instead. Many times I'll have to wait until I can bring a tool home from work. The cheap tools get by for side jobs but I wouldn't even think about using them on a daily basis at work. If I could afford to buy a matching set of tool truck brands for home I would, but it wouldn't make sense financially to do so.

If I didn't do this for a living and was just a weekend DIY'er, I doubt I would fill my toolbox up with tool truck brands unless I had the money to blow. Plus, it would be too difficult to get tool truck service or warranty at home for a DIY'er.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Whether using a Snap On or Harbor Freight hammer, I don’t know, doesn’t matter. That plus maybe bad credit experiences or perhaps bad tool truck experiences in general. Likewise, some guys are plenty happy with their HF tools or other, and people are equally jealous of those who are satisfied with the less expensive stuff they have. It works both ways.

Personally I don’t like Harbor Freight, and have never even been there. Do I have some deep rooted hatred of the Taiwanese, Chinese, etc. people or country? Absolutely not. I walk around the flea markets and estate sales, stores, and look at some of the junk that’s been passed off over the years as “Professional” or quality, and just laugh and wonder what were they thinking? Who are/were they trying to fool? Who let this be?

I believe our own countrymen dumbed down so many products by allowing junk to be sold here, it’s ridiculous. No one else to blame. A lot of them design it too. Yet, it’s part of what makes the world go ‘round. Different products for a different market or buyer.

 

[Yarpo]

I also come from the trade. Grew up in my dads shop using his snap on and when I had to buy my own it did not take long to notice that there is a difference.. owned a napa store and full machine shop ( did very well) and sold millions to shops, but not tools as the vast majority preferred snap on and the like for the higher quality.( napa handled decent tools) again most DIY have cheap boxes with cheaper or cheaper tools in them and most professionals have quality boxes with quality tools. I know why this is as do you if you are truly in the trade as a professional. You also know darn well this is easily proven by going around town and checking out what is in the professional shops.. the "better" stuff. Cheers


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You made my point..thank you... you base your opinion on something you are not a professional in... who's opinion carries the most weight? You or the professional?

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So you're also not a professional mechanic, so your opinion holds less weight in this matter too, right?

 

[ngk22r]

Yes, that counts. Nice ratchet! Probably works just like mine.



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Well of coarse your Snap On ratchet is going to work just like his Snap On ratchet....

 

[Jaysreal]

Hmmm seems you misquoted me( go back and reread what you said I said and what I said I made it easy for you in the past post) it's all good... seems to me that if you don't like to hear something you can just switch "channels" ? Or you going to play the offended like this past Christmas when some forced a old Christmas song off the radio? ( google if unsure of what I'm talking about) to me and I suspect most Its all fun,games and cheap entertainment and nobody is worse for wear... or are you feeling bad? Do you need to talk it out? I'm only joking!!!! Cheers.

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NOPE, no misquotes here. Others can see how you were rude, others can see how you immediately invalided his opinion, others can see how much of an assumption-ist you are. NOBODY EVER claimed his opinions held as much weight as a Professional Technicians, that was something YOU projected on to him in addition to being disrespectful. It was just a guy sharing his experience.

You can spew all the garbage you want, but don't expect to wish others away when you are challenged.

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[Partsguy57]

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So you're also not a professional mechanic, so your opinion holds less weight in this matter too, right?

I don't turn wrenches for a living now but am from the trade. Grew up in a professional shop (making a living)using professional tools mostly snap on and then went into the auto parts and full machine shop business for many years ( very successful) I have experience in the use and sell of tools to professionals and my personal shop at home rivals most professionals. I own only quality tools. So yes I am from the trades and still wrench far more then the average guy and have no problem buying snapon and the like as I know it's better based on real world experience... and you?

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[Partsguy57]

NOPE, no misquotes here. Others can see how you were rude, others can see how you immediately invalided his opinion, others can see how much of an assumption-ist you are. NOBODY EVER claimed his opinions held as much weight as a Professional Technicians, that was something YOU projected on to him in addition to being disrespectful. It was just a guy sharing his experience.

You can spew all the garbage you want, but don't expect to wish others away when you are challenged.

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You are the only complaining about the tone.... cheers

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[Partsguy57]

Well of coarse your Snap On ratchet is going to work just like his Snap On ratchet....

Hmmm who would have thought... thanks for helping me out cheers

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[JulianMorrow]

It's Ok for you to buy a SO on wrench because you only spent $30 on one wrench, but anyone who acquires "thousands of dollars" has to be acquiring debt. Do you believe it's not possible for them to cash flow the tools required for there job/hobby?

Ok, let’s try to clear this up, once & for all. Lt Cheg wrote two posts (which you didn’t bother to read) regarding Snap-On’s pricing structure. Try to focus now, here’s what Cheg wrote:

You're missing part of the equation. You are also paying for a no interest loan in the price of tool truck tools….So baked into the cost of the tool is some overhead cost for running a loan operation.

I have no idea if Cheg’s post is true or not regarding Snap-On’s pricing structure. But in my reply to Cheg, I stated that I’m not willing to pay Snap-On’s markup to cover their financing operation. Somehow you’ve completely jumped to this strawman: I think “anyone who spends thousands of dollars (on Snap-On tools) has to be acquiring debt.” I never stated that, nor can you quote me anywhere saying that. You’re just trying to pick a fight and are boring everyone to death.

 

[Yarpo]

I don't turn wrenches for a living now but am from the trade. Grew up in a professional shop using professional tools mostly snap on and then went into the auto parts and full machine shop business for many years ( very successful) I have experience in the use and sell of tools to professionals and my personal shop at home rivals most professionals. I own only quality tools. So yes I am from the trades and still wrench far more then the average guy and have no problem buying snapon and the like as I know it's better based on real world experience... and you?

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But you're not a professional mechanic then, which is what you grilled OP on.

I am a professional mechanic for the second time in my career. I was an EVT for 4 years and rolled into a euro/luxury shop as a tech about a month ago.

I too have no problem buying Snap on, but am very aware that there's countless alternatives that will do the job just as well. They may not be as exciting or enjoyable for the user, but there's tons of tools outside of Snap on that professional techs use day in and day out without issue. For example, I'm always pleased to use their ratchets, but their sockets are...sockets to me. They do nothing for me and I've never had a bolt that I couldn't loosen with my quality alternatives.

Now I dont know where this conversation is going or has gone, I've gotta read the last 3 pages....

 

[Negen]

I read nearly all the responses in this thread. It is quite odd to me. I went to a tech college got two degrees in IT related fields and a handful of certifications. Very similar process to guys or gals going to school to become an auto mechanic. During my school included in my tuition loan I bought a bought 5,000$ worth of computer and network analyzing tools and equipment. My total college bill was about 35,000$ low interest rate loan. The type where you get the years worth up front.

Anyway as far as new techs go I do not see doing this route or similar any different. I know if you go to some bike schools to become a bike tech the snap on tools are already included in your bill. Mind you at a discount of course.

Now I work in a industry building with about 1,000 people. Our main box is mostly 10 year old or so craftsman with some bluepoint , proto ,black hawk and snapon. Mind you every day i have a wrench or a ratchet or a bit driver in my hand. Mainly 5,5.5,7,10 mm or 1/4 ,1/2 11/64(?) And 7/8 in sae. It is predicable what size fastener I will turn every day. The stands that we put together are to hold 6-10 500# computers. We move and build new stands quite often.

I am sure that by the standards here I would not be called one who wrenches professionally. IT people do not consider my job IT either we only have about 5,000 nodes on our network.

For me I like proto and SK and koken for ratchets or sockets. The proto 90 tooth are odd to me though. I like the old Armstrong 90 teeth round heads or the maxx 88. Klien is too bulky for my needs but make good wire stripers. I not only like tools like using them. Although Bosch type a injection pumps intimidate me.

PS: does anyone know if partsguy owned a parts store and a machine shop?

PSS: just teasing partsguy

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[Shane6377]

Yeah, I think a lot of snap on hate stems from jealousy. Either people can't afford them, or have no accessibility to them. Or they don't really need them. This same type of jealousy can apply to anything else in life like cars, houses, clothes, etc. But this is Garage Journal so we talk about tools.



I've been getting paid to work on cars for a living since 1989. I've been in both independent shops and dealers. Every shop I've been in for the past 30 years, 90% of those guys have tools and toolboxes from either snap on, mac or matco. My tools at work are a mix of brands, mostly from the tool trucks. I have no loyalty to any one brand, but I try to buy the best. Snap on in my opinion is one of the best. Anyone looking to make a career in this should also try to buy the best tools available. I would estimate my work tools are valued at close to $100k. Sure I owed a lot initially when I was a kid making payments every week. But it was a good investment and has been paid off for decades. I'll still buy stuff now and then, but usually just pay in full. If I ever have a truck balance now, it's usually no more than a couple hundred dollars.



I've got other good brands in my work toolbox like William's, sk, proto. I don't even remember where I bought them from. If and when they break, I have no idea where to get any of these tools warrantied or replaced. I don't need the hassle or have the time to be running around trying to get them warrantied. When my tool truck brands break, I give it to my dealer and he gives me a replacement. I've never had an issue in 30 years of getting anything warrantied from snap on, matco or mac.



I do a lot of side jobs at home and my toolboxs in my garage are from Menards and Home depot. Less than 10% of my home tools are tool truck brands. The tools are a mix of Craftsman, harbor freight, gearwrench, menards brand, ebay and Amazon purchased tools, etc. Total value of my home tools is fraction of what my work tools are worth. If they break, they're cheap and I'll just toss them out and buy another. Sure these tools work but I find more often than not that I'm cussing them out wishing I had a certain work tool instead. Many times I'll have to wait until I can bring a tool home from work. The cheap tools get by for side jobs but I wouldn't even think about using them on a daily basis at work. If I could afford to buy a matching set of tool truck brands for home I would, but it wouldn't make sense financially to do so.



If I didn't do this for a living and was just a weekend DIY'er, I doubt I would fill my toolbox up with tool truck brands unless I had the money to blow. Plus, it would be too difficult to get tool truck service or warranty at home for a DIY'er.

You make a lot of good points.

I think many mechanics have been fooled into thinking that they need to have Snap On tools to be a good mechanic. There is a culture in the industry that looks down on those who don't have $100,000 worth of Snap On in their box. That culture has been on display in this thread. I think a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high-skill field. They compensate with a box of shiny tools.

I think for every jealous DIY'er hating on Snap On there is an insecure professional cheering them on.


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[Hiball]

Ok, let’s try to clear this up, once & for all. Lt Cheg wrote two posts (which you didn’t bother to read) regarding Snap-On’s pricing structure. Try to focus now, here’s what Cheg wrote:



I have no idea if Cheg’s post is true or not regarding Snap-On’s pricing structure. But in my reply to Cheg, I stated that I’m not willing to pay Snap-On’s markup to cover their financing operation. Somehow you’ve completely jumped to this strawman: I think “anyone who spends thousands of dollars (on Snap-On tools) has to be acquiring debt.” I never stated that, nor can you quote me anywhere saying that. You’re just trying to pick a fight and are boring everyone to death.

Ok... We are obviously not getting anywhere, Yes All products have multiple costs built into there pricing structure, I didn’t realize this was such a discovery, throw in front door service via big trucks and there better be some room to negotiate.

 

[Lassen Forge]

Let me give you a page 4 in one day summary...

(Snap-on haters) (Snap-on users)
-----------------------(GJ Readers)

Any questions?

 

[Shane6377]

Well of coarse your Snap On ratchet is going to work just like his Snap On ratchet....

That's a Craftsman... and yes, it will work just like his Snap On.


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[Partsguy57]

But you're not a professional mechanic then, which is what you grilled OP on.



I am a professional mechanic for the second time in my career. I was an EVT for 4 years and rolled into a euro/luxury shop as a tech about a month ago.



I too have no problem buying Snap on, but am very aware that there's countless alternatives that will do the job just as well. They may not be as exciting or enjoyable for the user, but there's tons of tools outside of Snap on that professional techs use day in and day out without issue. For example, I'm always pleased to use their ratchets, but their sockets are...sockets to me. They do nothing for me and I've never had a bolt that I couldn't loosen with my quality alternatives.



Now I dont know where this conversation is going or has gone, I've gotta read the last 3 pages....

I was and moved to auto parts and machine shop and from there to even more lucrative things.. I can assure you also will be I "was" at some point in time. Correct?

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[Partsguy57]

I read nearly all the responses in this thread. It is quite odd to me. I went to a tech college got two degrees in IT related fields and a handful of certifications. Very similar process to guys or gals going to school to become an auto mechanic. During my school included in my tuition loan I bought a bought 5,000$ worth of computer and network analyzing tools and equipment. My total college bill was about 35,000$ low interest rate loan. The type where you get the years worth up front.

Anyway as far as new techs go I do not see doing this route or similar any different. I know if you go to some bike schools to become a bike tech the snap on tools are already included in your bill. Mind you at a discount of course.

Now I work in a industry building with about 1,000 people. Our main box is mostly 10 year old or so craftsman with some bluepoint , proto ,black hawk and snapon. Mind you every day i have a wrench or a ratchet or a bit driver in my hand. Mainly 5,5.5,7,10 mm or 1/4 ,1/2 11/64(?) And 7/8 in sae. It is predicable what size fastener I will turn every day. The stands that we put together are to hold 6-10 500# computers. We move and build new stands quite often.

I am sure that by the standards here I would not be called one who wrenches professionally. IT people do not consider my job IT either we only have about 5,000 nodes on our network.

For me I like proto and SK and koken for ratchets or sockets. The proto 90 tooth are odd to me though. I like the old Armstrong 90 teeth round heads or the maxx 88. Klien is too bulky for my needs but make good wire stripers. I not only like tools like using them. Although Bosch type a injection pumps intimidate me.

PS: does anyone know if partsguy owned a parts store and a machine shop?

PSS: just teasing partsguy

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Lol I did... store # *** out of the Portland dc.. anyone from the napa family will know what I am talking about. Cheers

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[Shane6377]

I don't turn wrenches for a living now but am from the trade. Grew up in a professional shop (making a living)using professional tools mostly snap on and then went into the auto parts and full machine shop business for many years ( very successful) I have experience in the use and sell of tools to professionals and my personal shop at home rivals most professionals. I own only quality tools. So yes I am from the trades and still wrench far more then the average guy and have no problem buying snapon and the like as I know it's better based on real world experience... and you?

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OMG... after all that **** you were giving me! LMAO



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[Partsguy57]

OMG... after all that **** you were giving me! LMAO



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Clue, you to will also be a I was.. I can promise you that. I also had the selling end and you? ( if still confused my father is also a "I was" he retired from turning wrenches his entire life) again I did ( wrench for a living) and now longer do as you will someday do the same with whatever your career is.

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[Formula]

I think a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high-skill field.


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LOL. That couldn't be farther from the truth. I could give a million examples but I would be wasting my time.

A better way to have said it is, a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high paying field.

 

[ngk22r]

You make a lot of good points.

I think many mechanics have been fooled into thinking that they need to have Snap On tools to be a good mechanic. There is a culture in the industry that looks down on those who don't have $100,000 worth of Snap On in their box. That culture has been on display in this thread. I think a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high-skill field. They compensate with a box of shiny tools.

I think for every jealous DIY'er hating on Snap On there is an insecure professional cheering them on.


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Where did you get $100k worth of Snap On tools????

What is funny is people who do not work in the industry ASSUME costs of tools and then what other mechanics/techs think...

A person could have $10k in Snap On tools and not know the difference between a piston head and their sisters *****...

What you have wrong is WHO has this perception on tools and being good at a job.

 

[Partsguy57]

LOL. That couldn't be farther from the truth. I could give a million examples but I would be wasting my time.



A better way to have said it is, a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high paying field.

Lol yea you would be wasting your time.. you quoted the reason why I left the automotive trade not near enough money for the skills required..

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[dsimatt]

You make a lot of good points.

I think many mechanics have been fooled into thinking that they need to have Snap On tools to be a good mechanic. There is a culture in the industry that looks down on those who don't have $100,000 worth of Snap On in their box. That culture has been on display in this thread. I think a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high-skill field. They compensate with a box of shiny tools.

I think for every jealous DIY'er hating on Snap On there is an insecure professional cheering them on.


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Do you enjoy blowing that **** out your *** or are you that jealous of snap on. I dont know anyone that's got $100k in tools that isnt a business owner, also dont know anyone that looks down on people not using truck brand tools.

To say people using tools for a living is low skill shows the stupidity in your opinions, I suppose to you all we do is just what a computer tells us to.

 

[ngk22r]

That's a Craftsman... and yes, it will work just like his Snap On.


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I circled the Snap On ratchet in your picture

 

[ngk22r]

Do you enjoy blowing that **** out your *** or are you that jealous of snap on. I dont know anyone that's got $100k in tools that isnt a business owner, also dont know anyone that looks down on people not using truck brand tools.

To say people using tools for a living is low skill shows the stupidity in your opinions, I suppose to you all we do is just what a computer tells us to.

That’s what the boys from autozone like to do...

Customer “the guy at autozone said all I needed was a new O2 sensor.”

 

[jd_1138]

LOL. That couldn't be farther from the truth. I could give a million examples but I would be wasting my time.

A better way to have said it is, a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high paying field.

Amen, modern vehicles have tons of computers, PCM's, ECM's, sensors, etc.. I saw an ad from the 1940's for a correspondence course in auto repair, and it came with a complete set of Proto tools. It only had like 60 tools -- most of which were wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, a few various sizes of breaker bars.

About the only electrical tools it came with were a simple test light and a spark plug gap gauge.

 

[Negen]

Lol I did... store # *** out of the Portland dc.. anyone from the napa family will know what I am talking about. Cheers

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Lol I was just teasing because I think about 70% of your posts mention that.

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[Partsguy57]

You make a lot of good points.

I think many mechanics have been fooled into thinking that they need to have Snap On tools to be a good mechanic. There is a culture in the industry that looks down on those who don't have $100,000 worth of Snap On in their box. That culture has been on display in this thread. I think a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high-skill field. They compensate with a box of shiny tools.

I think for every jealous DIY'er hating on Snap On there is an insecure professional cheering them on.


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Lol now you went and did it... that no skill comment is going to generate a lot of "love" cheers and good luck

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[Partsguy57]

Lol I was just teasing because I think about 70% of your posts mention that.

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Ok you got me .. lol did I mention I used to own a napa store?

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[ngk22r]

Ok you got me .. lol did I mention I used to own a napa store?

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Wait, hold on a second.... Is that why you have the user name of partsguy?!?!?!

 

[Yarpo]

PS: does anyone know if partsguy owned a parts store and a machine shop?

PSS: just teasing partsguy

I think it was VERY successful

You make a lot of good points.

I think many mechanics have been fooled into thinking that they need to have Snap On tools to be a good mechanic. There is a culture in the industry that looks down on those who don't have $100,000 worth of Snap On in their box. That culture has been on display in this thread. I think a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high-skill field. They compensate with a box of shiny tools.

I think for every jealous DIY'er hating on Snap On there is an insecure professional cheering them on.


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I don't think so, I'm sure it happens but its probably not as much as you'd think. I rolled into anew shop with my NOT Snap on box, and my boss will pickup my tools and use my WrightGrip wrenches, Gearwrench Screwdrivers or Grey Pneumatic impact sockets for example and not bat an eye. This guy is buying Snap on stuff every time the Snap on guy comes buy and is replacing his red Snap on tools with orange, just cause he likes his **** to match. Hes now got an extra snap on box with extra snap on tools, but again hasn't said a WORD about any of my tools.

Oh, and I think the field is very highly skilled, now more so than ever. You've gotta be an IT guy ontop of a Mechanic to work on anything super new

 

[plinker]

Oh, and I think the field is very highly skilled, now more so than ever. You've gotta be an IT guy ontop of a Mechanic to work on anything super new

LOL. That couldn't be farther from the truth. I could give a million examples but I would be wasting my time.

A better way to have said it is, a lot of mechanics are insecure because their field is no longer a high paying field.

About right. I have a cousin (with no real life skills at all) who works second shift at a cheese factory making about the same money as I do.

Kinda wonder where I went wrong.

If you look at any other trade, plumbing or electrician for instance, they make considerably more money and have far less investment in tools. There is big demand for all types of mechanics around here, but the pay isnt there.

 

[Partsguy57]

Wait, hold on a second.... Is that why you have the user name of partsguy?!?!?![emoji38]_hitti

Let's see here cs786,rr175, rr165, rr167r.. sitting here at in and out burger for lunch and here are your echlin part numbers for a tune up on a old Chevy small or big block... points
Condenser cap and rotor.. I could go on for quite a while by memory... ford fa79 fa157, cs751, fa82...... cheers

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[ngk22r]

Let's see here cs786,rr175, rr165, rr167r.. sitting here at in and out burger for lunch and here are your echlin part numbers for a tune up on a old Chevy small or big block... points
Condenser cap and rotor.. I could go on for quite a while by memory... ford fa79 fa157, cs751, fa82...... cheers

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My work needs a good parts guy.... But they don’t want to pay for one...

 

[Shane6377]

Where did you get $100k worth of Snap On tools????



What is funny is people who do not work in the industry ASSUME costs of tools and then what other mechanics/techs think...



A person could have $10k in Snap On tools and not know the difference between a piston head and their sisters *****...



What you have wrong is WHO has this perception on tools and being good at a job.

I got the $100k figure from post #113 that I quoted. That was what he valued his work tools at.


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[Negen]

Let's see here cs786,rr175, rr165, rr167r.. sitting here at in and out burger for lunch and here are your echlin part numbers for a tune up on a old Chevy small or big block... points
Condenser cap and rotor.. I could go on for quite a while by memory... ford fa79 fa157, cs751, fa82...... cheers

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In n out burger /old folks home its all the same once the meds kick in.

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[Partsguy57]

About right. I have a cousin (with no real life skills at all) who works second shift at a cheese factory making about the same money as I do.

Kinda wonder where I went wrong.

If you look at any other trade, plumbing or electrician for instance, they make considerably more money and have far less investment in tools. There is big demand for all types of mechanics around here, but the pay isnt there.

I would totally, I would not recommend the automotive field for most in its current state. For the level of skill required and investment in tools one can do better elsewhere..

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[ngk22r]

I got the $100k figure from post #113 that I quoted. That was what he valued his work tools at.


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One person having $100k of Snap On tools doesn’t mean all techs have $100k worth of Snap On tools.

But if you could go to where I posted your picture and circled the ratchet I was referencing.

 

[Formula]

Lol yea you would be wasting your time.. you quoted the reason why I left the automotive trade not near enough money for the skills required..

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Unfortunately, that's the way it's been trending. My pay has been the same for 10 years now. I actually made more in the late 90's and early 2000's. It makes no sense financially for a younger guy to get in this business now. But for an older guy like me, I can stick it out for a few more years and then get out.