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Bob: sorry I didn't mention that I wish you and your bride all the best with your FURRY FRIEND. I'm guessing you have a great VET that is doing his/her best.

prayers sent and some good luck too!!

I woke up to this today and I bet you haven't seen this stuff in a while. we didn't have any last year and this last week I bet we've had 18 inches.
 

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I think this is the perfect time to tear down that patchwork shed and build a true shop building.:beer:
John, you are absolutely right, it is the perfect time to do that. I can easily justify the expense, considering all the money I'll be making with the new building. Oh, wait, I just realized the only things that make money in our house are the investments I would have to cash in. I do have an upgrade in mind for the electrical. I can finish wiring the workshop and add a connection to the emergency generator or bury some conduit. Or both!

I think you and I are in the same boat. Your 25-foot metal building at the new residence is all you need now that you are retired. If my building was less attractive to termites I would be very happy.
I like the bucket cart and; a bucket vacuum? Did you get that at the HD also? Looks like a great thing for a wood shop. Bob you amaze me with your ability to find new ways to spice up a shop. How about a vacuum bucket after burner made with the weed torch so you can **** up the termites and blow them (to H---), into the furnace, at the same time. Caution, do not place the flame end inside the garage while in operation, and do not use alcohol operating machinery. May be a good idea not to let the neighbors know you have it either.
Bobby, my old wet/dry vacuum that clogs up every time I use it was going to get the cyclone separator, along with a home-made cart of some kind. I took Google shopping for a "two bucket cart" and it found a bunch of expensive solutions along with the "Bucket Buddy" at Home Depot. Unfortunately they aren't sold in stores and are out of stock online so I checked Amazon, where it was also out of stock. Of course Amazon has multiple sources so this popped up: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JBGJC7G/?tag=atomicindus08-20

At $60 all five of my "You can build that cheaper" enabler brain cells were yelling at me but my one "You can't handle another project" brain cell won out. Liane fertilizes that brain cell so it is pretty strong. I needed that little piece of plywood for the second table saw cabinet drawer so I added the buckets, lid and "Bucket Head" vacuum to my list. The whole mess came to less than $100.

Last September I bought the Chinese Knockoff for about half the price of a real Dust Deputy ($26.99 vs $49.99). Because the Bucket Buddy has a real small hose inlet, I had to buy a couple of adapters but overall I'm happy with the performance.

Bob: not sure if you have the room or like this idea, but several members have built their miter saws into their benches which might be something you could do and then you'd have yours out of that covered area that you could use for something else even though it looks like a good set up now.

also have you found any live termites yet or just their trails and damage?

also don't feel like the lone ranger having to tear up things you built or repaired 20+ years ago cause as soon as my deck is snow free (or sometime soon after) i'm tearing it apart and wish I would have used screws and not listened to my bride who for some reason wanted me to nail it down.

have a great day in the perfect weather in your part of the world while I get ready for another snow storm.

cheers
Drives, for the moment I'll have to live with the folding miter saw stand. It allows me to put the saw away inside the dry shed after each use. I do want to build another cabinet for the 12-inch miter saw that allows me to drop the saw down out of the way and roll the cabinet under one of the workbenches. Of course, the workbench/workshop repair is a higher priority at the moment. I do have the Craftsman 10-inch Radial Arm Saw built into one of the benches so I have that tool always at the ready. My 10-inch miter saw is also easily set up with a Workmate and roller stands. Like you I have pretty much maxed out the available space in both the garage and workshop.

I found live termites about six months ago and I sprayed termiticide in some of the exposed galleries. I also set off bug bombs on three occasions. So far all I have seen during this tear-down is their droppings.

Fortunately I used screws for everything I added to the workshop but the original structure has nails. I have a few reciprocating saws and one will have a metal cutting blade to fix the nail problem.

I spent more than enough time dealing with snow when I was younger so I am enjoying the return to normal Florida weather (winter chill in the 60s seems to be over). I do have to plan for a little of the white stuff -- one of our hedges is in bloom and will be dropping it's petals.
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Bob, glad to hear your monitoring of Ellie has allowed you to hopefully nip the issue in the bud. I hear you about "spending the children's inheritance." Specialized health care can be expensive, whatever the species.

We've had two canines with CA issues over-time, and I don't regret for one second the cumulative 'into five figures' costs of care. Fortunately we were both working at the time, and had the discretionary income to do the right thing for our canines. Now in retirement, if the need arises again, it's just another budget item, as our 'quality of health' is directly related to the health of our great little companion.

The first-time we took our shetland sheepdog into the vet, and got the referral to the canine oncologist, the oncologist told us, "it's an expensive process." I said, "it's like buying a used Toyota," when we were digesting the cost of the treatment.

The next time we returned to the oncologist for the current furry fellow needing care, I reminded the doctor of our reasoning for the cost of being similar to buying a used Toyota. She responded, "I'm afraid this is going to-be a step-up in cost, to a Lexus!" Actually the cost wasn't as-bad as that, but the care is definitely expensive. I hope Ellie gets-out the door with less-invasive procedures, and lower costs.

Since you like to wrench-on the vehicles, I'm gonna show a fix I decided to make, I wish I'd done-it a long time-ago! I have a '09 GMC pick-up I bought new, and over-time, the headlights developed cataracts. I put it-off, doing the sanding, until I finally decided, "time to fix it or to buy replacements." While it would be easy to go through Rock Auto for replacements, as I did with my wife's Camry, after one go-round sanding them, and when they got foggy-again, I just bought new aftermarket; I decided to once-again use the 3M kit I had for the first Camry headlight 'intervention.'

The sanding disc in the 3M kit is probably-about 3" and after using it for awhile, I decided I had better uses for my time. I broke-out my D-A pneumatic sander, and a 600 wet-or-dry, and resumed. Much-better! I continually wiped-off the residue frequently, and soon switched to an 800 grit. After I got done with that, I could actually see through the lens, and in an A-B comparison with the untreated lens, I felt-like one of those infomercial guys, touting the miracle product he's selling: "just look-at that transparency, folks!" Sand it and forget it!"

I did the opposite side and while it's not-done, it's much, much better than it was. I have to visit the body supply store to get some 1000 and 1600 grit wet-or-dry pads for the D-A, and once I use them, I'll try a polishing compound on a foam pad, the foam pad I'll make a trip to Harbor Freight, and pick a free gift for my troubles.

The dog was out of the Science Diet food/kibble, so last night after it got dark, I went to Pet Supermarket. As I turned out of the driveway, I saw light in-front of my vehicle again! I hadn't realized how-much the haze of the headlight lenses had affected my night-time vision. I had recently been thinking, "man, I'm not seeing so-well at-night, I've gotta get to the opthalmologist for a new-pair of glasses!" That, or sand-down your headlight lenses. When you take a look at the before/after, you'll see (again, as I did!)

Driving-around as I had been it was like having one headlight out, or worse. I still have-to finish things, but at-least I have my nighttime illumination nearly-back to normal.

I also replaced a failed relay for my WOLO airhorn, which had stuck on, creating an exciting minute in traffic, until the fuse popped. It spontaneously stuck 'on,' leaving me in the middle of the road, with drivers giving me the stinkeye at my continually-blaring horn. You need a good horn in south Florida, if-only to alert the texting driver drifting into your lane to get-off facebook, stop vaping, and pay-attention to the SUV's path before we "meet by-accident."
Philip, Ellie spent Friday at the Vet's office getting a thoracic ultrasound. It took all day because the procedure is done in a mobile lab that makes multiple stops. Her enlarged heart is working fine and the mass that showed up on the X-ray is pneumonia, not cancer. I think we outsmarted ourselves this time. When Ellie's normal breathing problems escalated into really loud and scary stuff, we took her to the vet and he prescribed a tranquilizer, which worked really well. She wasn't making scary sounds so we thought we had it cured. Well, the tranquilizer kept her from coughing so the infection in her lungs got worse. Ellie has gotten an antibiotic shot and we are giving her daily antibiotic pills for the next six weeks with visits to the new girl who claims to be a Vet (she looks like she's about 12 years old). Ellie is a spoiled and picky eater so I have to grind up her pills in a mortar and pestle and cook them into egg whites with a little butter. I tell Liane that the coughing is a good sign (it still wakes us up).

Our 2004 PT Cruiser is the first car I've owned with plastic headlight housings. I started sanding and buffing the PT Cruiser headlights when the car was four years old. It works well but requires annual re-buffing. After the PT spent a year outside in 2017 the fading accelerated, so I decided to spring for new housings. At $40 each I figured it would save me some time. After two years in the sun the plastic is still clear but the driver side lens looks like it has cracks in the coating.
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If you are going to spray clear on the lens, 800-grit scratches are perfect for adhesion. If you are going to just polish the plastic to a high shine, a few more steps in the grit makes polishing faster and easier. I like to go 800, 1500, 2500 and then either 3000 or 5000. If you take it to 5000, polishing takes seconds, not minutes or hours. The finer grits are meant to be used with water.

I feel like we are living in parallel universes. I just ordered a new horn for the Cruiser. It gets a workout because it beeps every time we use the remote lock on the key fob. It tries to honk but like Ellie's coughing, nothing but a croak comes out.
An addendum:
About a month ago I had to replace one of the driving lamp lightbulbs, which I did from underneath the front bumper. Last week, the other driving lamp lightbulb failed, so I had another contortionist work job under the bumper ahead of me. But since I already had the grille off, I merely removed two 10 mm hex head machine screws for the headlight shell, and did the driving lamp bulb replacement from above-deck, while sitting in my comfy Harbor Freight stool. Quicker, easier, and no lying underneath the truck.

I looked up the auto body supply chain store by me since their closest branch closed, & will get my wet-or-dry D-A discs today to finish the headlights.
Unlike you I ended up taking the front end of the car apart to replace the headlight assemblies but like you, I've replaced the driving light bulbs just laying on the ground. The driving lights are below the front bumper and they exploded when I drove through one of those foot-deep South Florida "puddles."
Drift--Great job on the lights. But I have a few questions about technique. Just could not seem to grasp it all in your brief post. It would help if you could come north and demonstrate. As a matter of fact, I have a good candidate for you. I am sure you could clear a few things up.
Good one Jim! I'm thinking of cleaning my 300 feet of shadow fencing but I'm not sure how to do it. You could come show me with a detailed demonstration. I can see most of the fence from a movable chair.
Definitely, please visit us and give a hands-on seminar. FYI-We have Ford and Chevy plastic. Lol.


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Stewart, does this mean you'll be coming south with Jim? I'd love to see your fence-cleaning techniques. I could set up a big stack of batteries so you can reach more boards.
Ah, you-guys! If I can do-it, you can, too! The #1 suggestion I have is to forget that ridiculous small sanding pad in the 3M kit, and just use something with surface area, like my elderly pneumatic D-A sander. As I mentioned, continually wiping-off the sanding pad from the accumulated residue will help to keep-cutting, and will greatly-shorten your time for the job, I used paper towels.

I thought I should go-to the auto body supply store for some finer grit paper than the 800 wet-or-dry I stopped-with. The counter guy suggested that I just use polishing compound now, that I didn't need to sand things any more, and to consider using some clear after being done with the polishing. I suggested lacquer as the clear, and he said that would work. he also said that whatever clear I used would probably eventually yellow, requiring another go-round with sanding. So, I think I'll stop with the sanding, buy a cheap Harbor Freight foam head for my D-A, and polish the lenses. After that, I'll see how I want to proceed. I looked at Rock Auto pricing for aftermarket headlamps, and they weren't too-expensive, <$100 before shipping, the pair.

I think there's some wipe-on treatment to provide some UV protection, but I assume the duration of the treatment lasting and being effective is inversely-proportional to the ease of use. I looked online, and 3M, Meguiar's, Turtle Wax and others all carry some sort of wipe-on or spray treatment, so I expect that you can get this from your local auto parts store, or Walmart.
Philip, I always get bitten by shortcuts. Anything that's easy or cheap turns out not to last. I have some high-solids polyurethane clear that has fantastic UV resistance. I saved the old headlights so I could sand them to 800 and then spray a full coat of clear.
I have a friend in Richmond, VA that sands the lens just as you suggest, with a DA sander using 600 to 800 grit paper (depending on how cloudy the lamp is) and then sprays it with automotive clear, and I've seen lamps he did over 5 years ago and they still look like new. Much better than polishing and lasts much longer.

Gil
Gil, that's what the pros on the SPI forum do and they all get years out of the process. These guys are doing headlights on Mercedes and other luxury vehicles and those customers provide a steady stream of referrals. If you are doing it for yourself, it doesn't matter if it lasts but if you are paying, the expectations go up quickly.
Bob: sorry I didn't mention that I wish you and your bride all the best with your FURRY FRIEND. I'm guessing you have a great VET that is doing his/her best.

prayers sent and some good luck too!!

I woke up to this today and I bet you haven't seen this stuff in a while. we didn't have any last year and this last week I bet we've had 18 inches.
Drives, our girl-child Vet is doing a great job. Ellie's tail is no longer dragging!

I haven't seen that white stuff since the DEA chased a Coke smuggler over our house. Oh, I see, you mean snow -- closest we get is the frost in the garage freezer.
 

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Bob,

Sending good thoughts for Ellie. I know what you mean about life on hold.

Many years ago, we went through chemo for our female beagle (Whitney) and then, later, radiation therapy for our male beagle (Max). Chemo was once a week but radiation was 5 days/week and he had to be knocked out each time.

A few years after they passed, we inherited a cocker spaniel from my BIL. Our little Lucy ended up with congestive heart failure and was on a lot of meds for 2+ years. One med was relatively new and specific to canine CHF. Incredible!

The things we do for our 4-legged babies... We've seen oncologists, acupuncturists, ophthalmologists, neurologists, general surgeons, orthopedic surgeons, cardiologists, and even behavior specialists.

Lucy's story: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237978
 
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Bob, glad to hear the dog is doing good.
Thanks Craig!
Bob,

Sending good thoughts for Ellie. I know what you mean about life on hold.

Many years ago, we went through chemo for our female beagle (Whitney) and then, later, radiation therapy for our male beagle (Max). Chemo was once a week but radiation was 5 days/week and he had to be knocked out each time.

A few years after they passed, we inherited a cocker spaniel from my BIL. Our little Lucy ended up with congestive heart failure and was on a lot of meds for 2+ years. One med was relatively new and specific to canine CHF. Incredible!

The things we do for our 4-legged babies... We've seen oncologists, acupuncturists, ophthalmologists, neurologists, general surgeons, orthopedic surgeons, cardiologists, and even behavior specialists.

Lucy's story: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237978
Roger, you are a good man. Our pets take care of us when we don't feel good so returning the favor is important.

Ellie rescued us from the Tri-County Humane Society in late November 2005 so we really owe her our lives (Possum, our Bichon Frise succumbed to renal failure shortly after hurricane Wilma, the 23rd named storm of that season).
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She was about 6 weeks old so she had to work hard to take care of us. She took us to obedience training so we would know when to go to the bathroom and when to eat. She also showed us the importance of flossing.
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She shopped for a place to spend her nights and chose a nice size place with room for her stuffed friends.
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She is improving daily and wants to thank all our GJ friends for their concern.
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Bob: HAPPY to hear your little furry friend is on the mend and can't say i've ever seen a dog's teeth flossed so that was a first for me.:bowdown:

are you saying termites don't like REDWOOD? I'm guessing then maybe they don't like CEDAR either?

funny about the DEA causing a winterlike situation in your part of the world. :bounce:

it snowed over 2 feet here in the lowlands and GOD must have said that's enough cause just as evening approached after snowing all day long at 5pm it started raining and kept raining for maybe 16 hours. now we've got sunshine and huge piles of wet slushy snow.

hope you don't have any more little wood eating critters showing up.
 

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Gosh Bob! All that critter damage and hard work makes me break out in sweat automatically. :shocking: Glad you are getting benefit of having the big items on wheels now. :thumbup:

Do like the bucket buddy. Been meaning to make on like that for my dust-deputy clone ages. Though I want mine to store vertical. You even beat me to reinforcing the bucket lid. Also want to run some all-thread with a strap over the top of the dust-deputy to stop it kinking and breaking off at the flange.
 
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Ellie is a very special girl to put up with Bob!

Get wellie Ellie.
Andy, she is! When I tell her a joke she gives me that "not funny" smile.
Pugs are the cutest puppies. We had Nicki and her son Tai. Great dogs. I think this is the first time I’ve heard of dog flossing. They definitely teach us to be good parents.


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Stewart, after dinner one night Liane was flossing and Ellie was sitting on her lap. When Liane put her hands down, Ellie grabbed the floss and moved her head side to side. I think she was attracted to the peppermint in the floss. It was really hard to get a picture because we were laughing so hard.
Bob, so glad the little pooch is doing well, but , egg whites with a little butter, :lol: I'm trying that next time I'm ill. I will report back, but I think we all know it won't end well. lol_hitti

Steve:beer:
Steve, you know she's spoiled but this bout of pneumonia has taken it to a new level. Ellie was a little slow eating the egg whites the next day so I scrambled a whole egg. She loved that but fearing it would elevate her cholesterol, I switched canola oil for the butter. Guess who is not fond of scrambled eggs fried in canola oil. A few paper thin pieces of top round solved her problem.
Thanks for that Markstang! You made my day.
Bob: HAPPY to hear your little furry friend is on the mend and can't say i've ever seen a dog's teeth flossed so that was a first for me.:bowdown:

are you saying termites don't like REDWOOD? I'm guessing then maybe they don't like CEDAR either?

funny about the DEA causing a winterlike situation in your part of the world. :bounce:

it snowed over 2 feet here in the lowlands and GOD must have said that's enough cause just as evening approached after snowing all day long at 5pm it started raining and kept raining for maybe 16 hours. now we've got sunshine and huge piles of wet slushy snow.

hope you don't have any more little wood eating critters showing up.
Drives, I haven't ever seen it either. It's even more amazing that Ellie chose to do it.

There are a few species of wood that termites don't like, including redwoods, yellow cedar, Laotian teak, and cypress. Douglas fir is somewhat resistant but spruce and hemlock are not. Their absolute favorite is pine.

We've been having some heavy rain recently (8-inches in 3 days) but our cold weather should be over. Of course "cold weather" is a relative thing. In this part of Florida anything below 70*F is hypothermia warning time.

I haven't seen any live termites so far but they swarm in May so that's when I'll start using spray bombs in the workshop again.
Andy, I wish I was there when that starving termite arrived.
Gosh Bob! All that critter damage and hard work makes me break out in sweat automatically. :shocking: Glad you are getting benefit of having the big items on wheels now. :thumbup:

Do like the bucket buddy. Been meaning to make on like that for my dust-deputy clone ages. Though I want mine to store vertical. You even beat me to reinforcing the bucket lid. Also want to run some all-thread with a strap over the top of the dust-deputy to stop it kinking and breaking off at the flange.
Guster, I'm having a good time preparing for fresh siding. I could probably push hard and get it done in a week but I'm going to go slow and maybe make fewer mistakes.
 
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I managed to make a run to the big box store for some pressure-treated lumber and ten bags of wood chips (wouldn't want the termites to starve). I decided to take out the damaged 8-foot 2"x6" stud in two pieces once I had a brace in place. What should have been a jack stud going from the bottom plate up to the header was just a cripple stud going from the bottom plate to the window sill. The header over the window is a single pine (untreated) 2"x6" with a huge knot in the middle. The window was originally closer to the full length stud but that made the awning window useless when the door was wide open. I believe that's the reason for the strange framing.
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I realized there wasn't much strength left in the stud.
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Turned out to be a good decision to remove the stud in two pieces. The previous owner used a western wall technique to attach the studs by nailing through the top and bottom plates and then standing up the completed wall. Following our building codes, the studs are also attached with Simpson ties, nailed to the stud and plate junctions. I was able to cut off the nails in the top and bottom plates and discovered the cripple stud wasn't attached to the bottom plate in any way. The bay to the left has an extra piece of wood added to it that doesn't make any sense.
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The top of the cripple stud isn't a whole lot better. Somehow they drove a toenail through the stud (scrap?) above the window sill but it seemed to miss almost everything. A small reciprocating saw is a wonderful thing for me. It isn't too heavy and powerful so I have functioning wrist, elbow and shoulder joints at the end of the day. I cut the window sill and header right where they cross the studs/scraps.
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I managed to get the king stud and jack stud attached to the bottom plate and the king stud attached to the top plate. In addition to the Simpson Ties, I plan to put some Kreg pocket screws in as well.
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When I removed that odd block at the bottom of the leftmost bay, it's reason became clear. The bottom plate split sometime during the original construction of the shed and I guess the block augmented the Simpson ties that bridged the split. I will be soaking the bottom plate with termiticide before installing a new pressure treated block (it's the block standing in the bay).
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Hey, that wall looks like it was framed by a one-armed carpenter !

I often thought I should own stock in Simpson Strong-Tie , we've used so many of their products over the years. I'm thinking Florida's hurricane codes might outdo Washington's tie-down requirements for earthquake preparedness.

Hoping Ellie is back to 100% soon.
 
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Good repair but I’m thinking if you had gone with our earlier suggestion of a new garage annex you could be working in the shop not on it.
Glad Elle is doing better.


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Stewart, I haven't sent in a request for a quote but I have been looking at steel buildings that are available as kits. On the other hand, I have all the necessary tools to do the repairs. I am going to see about some quality family time with my son -- I think he still owes me a little help.

Ellie feels so good she wants to play after Liane goes to bed. It has gone from worry that Ellie is dying to worry that Liane is going to kill her (you don't want to be the one who wakes her up for fun).
Hey, that wall looks like it was framed by a one-armed carpenter !

I often thought I should own stock in Simpson Strong-Tie , we've used so many of their products over the years. I'm thinking Florida's hurricane codes might outdo Washington's tie-down requirements for earthquake preparedness.

Hoping Ellie is back to 100% soon.
John, my first thought was a blind carpenter but you might be more on-the-nose.

I have a small collection of Simpson ties and it looks like I'm going to get some more. You're right about Florida's hurricane codes but your earthquake stuff might be worse. At least from my recollection of some California home repair projects I think were on This Old House years age.

For her own sake, I hope Ellie doesn't get a whole lot better but I am enjoying her current puppy moments.
 
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Spent a little time working with Liane in the gardens and then wandered down to the workshop. The door on the workshop is a 6-foot wide double door and the door has been getting a little harder to close in recent years. I know it's the framing but haven't wanted to tear into it until now. The door is tighter than it should be and that has worn the paint off the edge at top and bottom.
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I removed the 1"x6" trim from the door and discovered another pine hoes-d'ovre the termites have enjoyed. Once again it isn't a real structural member, as is the layer next to it. I enjoy using up my little scraps of wood but this is over the top.
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At least there is a jack stud next to the king stud. Unfortunately the jack stud goes all the way to the slab, which makes a nice water wick. There;s no damage to the end of that jack stud but I'm going to have to do something about it. Up top that rough door frame is really rough. The door jamb is screwed to that block of wood but the block is just a shim. WTF?
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I took down the clamp rack as well as the 1x6 trim across the top of the doorway. I found a little rot in one spot on the top jamb so I did a little poking. It appears the jamb needs to be replaced and I can't find anyone who sells a pressure treated one. Looks like there'sl a little creative woodworking in my immediate future.
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I feel the need to take a shower. :Violent:
 

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Great work, Bob! It always seems to me once I tear into those kinds of problems it seems to actually go quicker than I dread, and seem to put them off a long time needlessly. You're really knocking it in the head.
 
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Great work, Bob! It always seems to me once I tear into those kinds of problems it seems to actually go quicker than I dread, and seem to put them off a long time needlessly. You're really knocking it in the head.
Hi Andy, I wasted time on the Internet today looking for replacement door frames and it appears no one carries them in stock. I went back to the workshop and passed my new pressure treated 2"x6" lumber. I can make my own door frame pieces including the slots for the weatherstrip. OK, maybe I have never tried this before but it doesn't look that hard.
EDIT: I tested the lumber with my moisture meter and one of the four was at 11% (the other three were up in the 24-26% range). I may need to get a couple of dry boards and some header material this week.
Gave my dad one of these to help handle sheet goods and he always thanks me for it:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PE32UWO/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Been meaning to upgrade him to something like these:
https://www.delmaproduction.nl/en/transport-trolleys/heavy-load-material-dolly
...or even these for some of the heavier items when he works outside by himself:
https://www.usagranitetools.com/sho...ies-abaco-machines/abaco-3-wheels-slab-dolly/
I have one of these and use the heck out of it:
https://www.topmaq.co.nz/item/view/Carrier-for-Glass-Wood-Drywall-Panel?sku=HAMI2500
Guster, you posted this over on Andy's thread and it lit a fire in me. This workshop project is going to involve new siding. I will be replacing the rotted Texture 111 wood panels with Hardie reinforced cement panels. I plan to buy 16 panels and each one weighs 75 or 98 pounds (haven't decided if I want 8- or 10-foot size). In the past I have used my trusty plywood carrier (like yours but mine are orange).
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When I saw what you gave your dad, I went straight to Amazon to order a PlyWheel. They are unavailable with no clue when or if they will be again. I tried looking for one on eBay but they refused to believe I was searching for a PlyWheel -- and gave me lots of flywheels to choose from. I found a wheeled plywood carrier but the wheels are in a different orientation. It is rated for 300 pounds so it should handle the Hardie panels. I like it because it should be easier to store when not in use so I ordered one from Acme Tool (includes a free roadrunner/coyote anvil).
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I'm going to test it with a piece of drywall and if it is too flimsy, I'll order the 600 pound one from Northern Tool. The two carts will cost less than $100 and that will probably save me a visit to the ER to X-ray my foot (I'm guaranteed to drop at least one panel if I use the old carrier handle).
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Oh Bob! Always happy to light your fire(or was it reading about Andy and co. playing with their ball turners) I should have thought of you and your upcoming sheet material handling needs too. :thumbup:

The plywheel doohickey I bought my dad had a different brand name. I can check for you. Honestly if it wasn’t cheaper than a set of the wheels to make one I would have made him one. In fact I should have bought him two. He lent it to me when I was installing the 3/8” thick 4x8 fibrecement panels in the bathroom since I was working by myself. Those were uncomfortably heavy but nothing like the 3/4” fibrecement floor panels.

I used 1/4" Hardie fibrecement panels on my outside deck screen wall. About 17 in total and they came in 4x8. Honestly 4x10 would have killed me as each one had to be trimmed. While lifting and carrying was OK, laying them down nicely on the saw horses while sweating profusely and suffering mild heatstroke is not advised. Even with the aid of the plywood carrier. The fact that I was walking across 8m of open deck framing and didn’t slip or fall once was a slight miracle too. I’m certain the per sheet cost was a factor too. :headscrat

The Acme one looks cool. The larger wheel one looks just as handy moving stuff down the yard. I could have used either when I tried to move a 4x10 sheet of 3mm steel. Good thing concrete is self lubricating but it still made a lot of noise dragging that to the shed. Do like the Gorilla gripper Toolfool listed but they were not available anywhere locally yet and I was too lazy to make one. That would make laying heavy sheets down a lot easier without changing how you hold the sheet.
 

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Bob, a co-worker of yours was the first Chrysler Turbine car recipient, 10-29-1963, in Chicago. He was 25 year-old Richard Vlaha, a systems engineer for IBM. Since I expect you to be personally-acquainted with every IBM employee, ever, did you speak to him about his extended focus group/consumer experience? He would have something to talk-about with Jay Leno, who owns one of the few Chrysler turbine cars left.

I read about this in the book I learned-about from another GJ member, under the 'what are you reading' thread. It's "Chrysler's Turbine Car: the Rise and Fall of Detroit's Coolest Creation."

Some interesting facts I've seen:
  • the cars were buit by Ghia in Italy-55 of them
  • apart from the five prototypes, they were all painted in the same metallic root-beer color, and all had the same interior color scheme
  • they were fully-equipped, no options were available
  • because Ghia used lead to smooth the panels, the cars were substantially heavier than Chrysler expected
  • the turbine made as-much torque as a Hemi of the day
  • the rear-view interior mirrors were glued to the windshield, the first time Detroit used this assembly method for one of their vehicles
  • there was only one key pattern for the 50 cars given to the public, so anyone could theoretically drive-away in another's car
  • the aluminum hood and rear trunk panels were aluminum, and they used steel reinforcements bonded to the aluminum panels, another 'first' for Detroit

I'm reading the book on an amazon kindle, and expect that they will soon be contacting me about moving their new headquarters to Miami, since NYC/The Big Apple gave them the 'stink-eye.'
 
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I finally gave in and bought one of these : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004AJVC7M/?tag=atomicindus08-20 . It does make moving 4x8 panels around the shop easier.
John, I'm convinced! I think I have a pretty long arm, based on the guy who made my first artificial arm calling me long distance (Manhattan to the middle of Long Island) to verify the measurements he took. I can grab that plastic carrier over a 4x8 but not with a wrap-around grip. It hurt to carry one of those cement panels (used them on the shed in our old house) so a Gorilla-Gripper is in my future for sure.
Oh Bob! Always happy to light your fire(or was it reading about Andy and co. playing with their ball turners) I should have thought of you and your upcoming sheet material handling needs too. :thumbup:

The plywheel doohickey I bought my dad had a different brand name. I can check for you. Honestly if it wasn’t cheaper than a set of the wheels to make one I would have made him one. In fact I should have bought him two. He lent it to me when I was installing the 3/8” thick 4x8 fibrecement panels in the bathroom since I was working by myself. Those were uncomfortably heavy but nothing like the 3/4” fibrecement floor panels.

I used 1/4" Hardie fibrecement panels on my outside deck screen wall. About 17 in total and they came in 4x8. Honestly 4x10 would have killed me as each one had to be trimmed. While lifting and carrying was OK, laying them down nicely on the saw horses while sweating profusely and suffering mild heatstroke is not advised. Even with the aid of the plywood carrier. The fact that I was walking across 8m of open deck framing and didn’t slip or fall once was a slight miracle too. I’m certain the per sheet cost was a factor too. :headscrat

The Acme one looks cool. The larger wheel one looks just as handy moving stuff down the yard. I could have used either when I tried to move a 4x10 sheet of 3mm steel. Good thing concrete is self lubricating but it still made a lot of noise dragging that to the shed. Do like the Gorilla gripper Toolfool listed but they were not available anywhere locally yet and I was too lazy to make one. That would make laying heavy sheets down a lot easier without changing how you hold the sheet.
Eugene, it was a little of both but that PlyWheel cart was the match. I've decided to get one of the Northern Tool carts as well because, as you say, it's about as cheap as making it would be. I use my heavy-duty hand truck all the time but it is dicey when I'm moving long items like timbers. A strap around one end of the timbers and those wheels at the other end would be perfect.
Bob looks like you've got it covered, but for heaven's sake don't go for a ride on one.
Bobby, how did you get inside my brain? I was thinking how two of those heavy duty carts and a couple of 2x12 scraps would be perfect for a soap box racer.
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Bob, a co-worker of yours was the first Chrysler Turbine car recipient, 10-29-1963, in Chicago. He was 25 year-old Richard Vlaha, a systems engineer for IBM. Since I expect you to be personally-acquainted with every IBM employee, ever, did you speak to him about his extended focus group/consumer experience? He would have something to talk-about with Jay Leno, who owns one of the few Chrysler turbine cars left.

I read about this in the book I learned-about from another GJ member, under the 'what are you reading' thread. It's "Chrysler's Turbine Car: the Rise and Fall of Detroit's Coolest Creation."

Some interesting facts I've seen:
  • the cars were buit by Ghia in Italy-55 of them
  • apart from the five prototypes, they were all painted in the same metallic root-beer color, and all had the same interior color scheme
  • they were fully-equipped, no options were available
  • because Ghia used lead to smooth the panels, the cars were substantially heavier than Chrysler expected
  • the turbine made as-much torque as a Hemi of the day
  • the rear-view interior mirrors were glued to the windshield, the first time Detroit used this assembly method for one of their vehicles
  • there was only one key pattern for the 50 cars given to the public, so anyone could theoretically drive-away in another's car
  • the aluminum hood and rear trunk panels were aluminum, and they used steel reinforcements bonded to the aluminum panels, another 'first' for Detroit

I'm reading the book on an amazon kindle, and expect that they will soon be contacting me about moving their new headquarters to Miami, since NYC/The Big Apple gave them the 'stink-eye.'
Philip, in 1963 IBM was a small operation with less than 140,000 employees and everybody knew everybody else but I didn't join IBM until the middle of October 1964, along with 12,000 other newbies. We were hired to take up the slack for all the folks heading out for Sytem/360 training. I had just turned 20 and the old-timers, like Richard Vlaha would never speak to me.

My parents next door neighbor and my father's best friend was an IBM manager in Manhattan and his recommendation got me the interview.

I don't know what it was about IBM employees but a lot of them had cool cars. In September 1963 one of my neighbor's co-workers showed up at his house with a new car. It was a brand spanking new Pontiac GTO with the tr-power 389 and a 4-speed. No power anything so it was a beast meant for drag racing. In 1970 my neighbor bought a yellow Buick GSX Stage 1 automatic that the dealer was trying to sell for a big premium. He ended up buying it for the sticker price (around $5,500). Unlike most of the GSXs, his came with factory A/C. My neighbor kept the car garaged but drove the car to work in Poughkeepsie, NY for several years so it saw quite a bit of snow and salt. He gave the car to the twin who graduated from West Point but the car needed some rust repair and it used gas like it had a hole in the tank. It was too expensive for a junior officer so he sold the car in the late '80s for I believe $34,000. This isn't the actual car but his was identical.
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I do remember the Chrysler dealership in Babylon, New York having one of those bronze turbine cars on display. I don't know if it was sold or returned to Chrysler because I never saw it driving around town. Motor Trend, Car&Driver, Hot Rod, Popular Science and Popular Mechanics all ran feature articles on that car. I was certain we were all going to be driving turbine-powered cars in a year or two.
 

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Bob, making door frames, how hard can it be, look at me I've been doing it for nearly forty years, and I'm almost an idiot, I think you may be over qualified. :bowdown:
I have been told, I must have been doing it wrong all these years because I haven't lost even a little bit of finger or eye.
All my timber is imported hardwood, kiln dried with a moisture content of about 5-6%, softwood is generally higher, but the lower the better.:thumbup:
If you make the frame with loose door stops, its easy to run them upright over the table saw and put an interference fit weather stripping into the groove you've just cut.
Keep up the good work
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Bob, making door frames, how hard can it be, look at me I've been doing it for nearly forty years, and I'm almost an idiot, I think you may be over qualified. :bowdown:
I have been told, I must have been doing it wrong all these years because I haven't lost even a little bit of finger or eye.
All my timber is imported hardwood, kiln dried with a moisture content of about 5-6%, softwood is generally higher, but the lower the better.:thumbup:
If you make the frame with loose door stops, its easy to run them upright over the table saw and put an interference fit weather stripping into the groove you've just cut.
Keep up the good work
Send me the size you want and I'll FedEX you one

Steve :beer:

Something I knocked up to help pay for our visit.
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Steve, it was you! All those times I tried to grab the pebble from your hand I thought it was a dream. Please stop calling me Grasshopper.

Your description of cutting the stops is what I was thinking when I looked at the existing jambs. I will have a few test pieces to try my luck with while I'm waiting for the wood to dry. I think a couple of days running the A/C in the shop may help speed the process. I ordered a new blade for the table saw to improve my odds of success.

I sure hope Liane doesn't see the door you built. Wait, maybe I can get some new equipment.
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Philip, in 1963 IBM was a small operation with less than 140,000 employees and everybody knew everybody else but I didn't join IBM until the middle of October 1964, along with 12,000 other newbies. We were hired to take up the slack for all the folks heading out for Sytem/360 training. I had just turned 20 and the old-timers, like Richard Vlaha would never speak to me.

My parents next door neighbor and my father's best friend was an IBM manager in Manhattan and his recommendation got me the interview.

I don't know what it was about IBM employees but a lot of them had cool cars. In September 1963 one of my neighbor's co-workers showed up at his house with a new car. It was a brand spanking new Pontiac GTO with the tr-power 389 and a 4-speed. No power anything so it was a beast meant for drag racing. In 1970 my neighbor bought a yellow Buick GSX Stage 1 automatic that the dealer was trying to sell for a big premium. He ended up buying it for the sticker price (around $5,500). Unlike most of the GSXs, his came with factory A/C. My neighbor kept the car garaged but drove the car to work in Poughkeepsie, NY for several years so it saw quite a bit of snow and salt. He gave the car to the twin who graduated from West Point but the car needed some rust repair and it used gas like it had a hole in the tank. It was too expensive for a junior officer so he sold the car in the late '80s for I believe $34,000. This isn't the actual car but his was identical.

I do remember the Chrysler dealership in Babylon, New York having one of those bronze turbine cars on display. I don't know if it was sold or returned to Chrysler because I never saw it driving around town. Motor Trend, Car&Driver, Hot Rod, Popular Science and Popular Mechanics all ran feature articles on that car. I was certain we were all going to be driving turbine-powered cars in a year or two.


What, you didn't know all those people? My mom worked for International Business machines at the NY World's Fair-in 1939! She was the person who spoke to the fair-goers who entered the IBM pavilion, where they got to view a new invention which was going to revolutionize the business world:
the electric typewriter.

She addressed the crowd while "secretaries" typed-away, balancing glasses of water on the backs of their hands, to demonstrate the 'light-touch' needed to use the keyboard. Her aunt owned a business school in lower Manhattan, which I think is how she was selected for the job.

The Buick GS Stage 1 was a little-known force in the world of muscle cars, not often-seen. Their 350 cubic inch engine was much more popular with the buying public than the 455. I had an acquaintance who had a Stage 1, and that thing had torque-aplenty! Yes, it was thirsty.

Another friend had a 442, and that was a fast car. He had the performance version stronger than the garden-variety 442. He sold it in about 1989, it was in perfect shape, but I seem to recall it was sold for about $13,000, quite a bit less-than the GS you mentioned. He had a '74 Porsche targa w/a turbo engine in it, built by an IMSA GTP race-team's shop. That was much-faster!
 
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as another 1 arm long guy on here to another... This thing is great, I use quite a bit.

Here it is in action


I have also used 3 wheeled small furniture dolly to move large sheets around.

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Thanks for the Gorilla Gripper endorsement Casmurbax. I ordered the FivePears version one and it came in two days. I gave it a try and I expect it to work just fine. I plan to use the gripper at one end of the 100-pound panel and the wheeled thing at the other. I'm always looking for ways to cut my lifting weights in half.
What, you didn't know all those people? My mom worked for International Business machines at the NY World's Fair-in 1939! She was the person who spoke to the fair-goers who entered the IBM pavilion, where they got to view a new invention which was going to revolutionize the business world:
the electric typewriter.

She addressed the crowd while "secretaries" typed-away, balancing glasses of water on the backs of their hands, to demonstrate the 'light-touch' needed to use the keyboard. Her aunt owned a business school in lower Manhattan, which I think is how she was selected for the job.

The Buick GS Stage 1 was a little-known force in the world of muscle cars, not often-seen. Their 350 cubic inch engine was much more popular with the buying public than the 455. I had an acquaintance who had a Stage 1, and that thing had torque-aplenty! Yes, it was thirsty.

Another friend had a 442, and that was a fast car. He had the performance version stronger than the garden-variety 442. He sold it in about 1989, it was in perfect shape, but I seem to recall it was sold for about $13,000, quite a bit less-than the GS you mentioned. He had a '74 Porsche targa w/a turbo engine in it, built by an IMSA GTP race-team's shop. That was much-faster!
Philip, just like I know every one of the 98,000 people who live in Boca Raton.

My mother taught business courses in high school in the late 1940s and among other things taught typing (using manual typewriters) and shorthand. When my father started writing the textbook, she typed up all the drafts and they bought an IBM Electromatic typewriter (same kind your mother demoed at the Worlds Fair). Mom pumped out seven drafts over five years. Each draft was over 4,000 double-spaced pages, in triplicate (one master for Allyn & Bacon, one carbon copy for my father and a second carbon copy for the book's co-author). By the time I started using it in high school, the t and e letters were just black blobs.

Buick only built 400 GSX 455 Stage 1 cars in 1970 and many went straight into drag racing. Part of it's amazing performance was the weight of the Buick 455. It was 150 pounds lighter than the Hemi and the Chevrolet 454. It was even 50 pounds lighter than an Olds 455. When they called it a torque monster, they weren't kidding. The Stage 1 Buick 455 was rated at 510 ft. lbs. and that was a record for a production car for 33 years when the 2003 Series 2 Viper V10 surpassed it.

The special edition muscle cars are selling for crazy money. A black 1969 GTO Judge Ram Air IV convertible sold for $682,000 in 2010. The top price for a '70 Buick GSX was a mere $200,000 in 2015.
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Sometimes you wake up and wonder what you're going to do today. Other times the decision is made for you!
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I put a tripod under the big Staghorn fern two years ago and it seemed to be working fine.
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I had to rig up ropes and pulleys to lift it two years ago but now it's earned a come-along and chains. Spent some quality time at Harbor Freight and Home Depot today.
 

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I hope that gripper works out for you.

I am little lost at your pictures of the fern.

I take it your tripod failed and the fern fell over and the root ball came out with it?

is the second picture you fixing it or how it looked before?
 

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Sometimes you wake up and wonder what you're going to do today. Other times the decision is made for you!
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I know what you mean Bob, only yesterday - I was in the process of putting posts in the ground at the front of house to attach some shade sails.

When I went to the shed for something, I sensed that there was a disturbance in the force - the stitching had let go along one edge of our original shade sail (probably about 10 years old).

So for the rest of the day (and a portion of the night) I helped my wife hand-sew the edge again (about 15 feet or so - with 2 rows of stitching).

Of course, when I say "helped", I mean "I held the sail while Lyn sewed it" (it has been pretty windy due to a cyclone off the coast the last couple of days).


I feel your pain regarding the termites and the dry-rot (now there's a classic oxymoron) too - they're both prevalent in this region as well.


The 2-wheeled sheet carriers look like a good thing. [emoji106]

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I hope that gripper works out for you.

I am little lost at your pictures of the fern.

I take it your tripod failed and the fern fell over and the root ball came out with it?

is the second picture you fixing it or how it looked before?
I think the gripper is a winner. I can even set it on my shoulder when carrying lighter weight stuff. Frees up my hand to guide the panels in the normal ocean breezes we get.

Yeah, the pictures are hard to follow (even for me when I was posting). The second picture is the 'before" from two years ago. The first picture is the fallen fern. The tripod is intact but the steel shed anchor I used to hang the fern pulled through. Based on some other evidence we had a strong breeze blow though the night before so when the fern moved it must have tipped over the tripod and the weight of the plant overwhelmed my hanger. The anchors are almost three feet long 1/2-inch diameter steel rods with a welded loop and screw plate.
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I know what you mean Bob, only yesterday - I was in the process of putting posts in the ground at the front of house to attach some shade sails.

When I went to the shed for something, I sensed that there was a disturbance in the force - the stitching had let go along one edge of our original shade sail (probably about 10 years old).

So for the rest of the day (and a portion of the night) I helped my wife hand-sew the edge again (about 15 feet or so - with 2 rows of stitching).

Of course, when I say "helped", I mean "I held the sail while Lyn sewed it" (it has been pretty windy due to a cyclone off the coast the last couple of days).


I feel your pain regarding the termites and the dry-rot (now there's a classic oxymoron) too - they're both prevalent in this region as well.


The 2-wheeled sheet carriers look like a good thing. [emoji106]

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Mark, thanks for stopping by and I was pleased to see Oma downgraded. It was interesting to see the surfers huddled behind the seawall at Coolangatta right after a mate received treatment for severe head injuries. At least they aren't surfing trains like the elderly idiots here in the US.

Liane has been after me to put up shade sails (like our next door neighbor). Lucky for me he used PVC pipe instead of timber posts so the sails flop around a lot. I fear there may be some 12-foot timber posts in my future. Liane hates to sew but every time I get out a needle and thread she rips them out of my hand. It's one of my rare Tom Sawyer moments.

I remember the termite mounds up near Port Douglas. You folks have some seriously hard working wood eaters. I've never understood "dry rot" because it always starts with wet wood.

Between the gripper and the wheeled carrier I'm almost looking forward to the sheet goods arriving.
 

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I try not to even think about carrying drywall sheets - I did more than my share when I used to drive a truck delivering the stuff (the off-sider and I often had to carry it sheet by sheet to wherever the building contractor wanted it placed - often up multiple flights of stairs).

The gripper would have been handy then.

I always use steel posts (100x100x4 mm square hollow section)...



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