The VISES of Garage Journal

[bastel]

Now, now, I see before me a classified ad for a FPU stamped 80mm vise that is more or less a clone of the Boley vise above. No adjustment possible.
Also most good back dynamic jaw vises use the rotating nut, fixed screw system. One system has a cover over the screw, works fine, too.

 

[zkling]

Interesting...all the FPU vises I have seen also had the dovetail reversed of the boley / leinen style.

 

[bastel]

Man that is some eye candy. Here is a little German I picked up not to long ago.





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How much did you pay for that one.. cuz I picked one up, too. Mine must be a bit younger, seeing that it is no longer a private company but a state owned that made it.
And did you get it from the states? Because even here they are not seen often.

But what I actually wanted to ask is about the one pictured. I might have asked before and I could swear I even saw a catalog picture, maybe in the vise info thread?! Does anybody remember or know. Also, are these common or not or of any value?

 

[bastel]

Interesting...all the FPU vises I have seen also had the dovetail reversed of the boley / leinen style.

Ah, now I see what you mean. Thought you meant those adjustment screws. Ok this is reversed, but otherwise it really looks alike, right?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/kleiner-massiver-schraubstock/1269195357-84-4750

 

[ricleh]

Boley described this model as mini and I believe that is accurate. 1 1/8 jaw and 3 1/2in long and weights 12.3oz.

My little Boley looks slightly different than yours. The size is the same.

 

[ZRX61]

Boley described this model as mini and I believe that is accurate. 1 1/8 jaw and 3 1/2in long and weights 12.3oz.

The one I have has *Made in Japan* on the end of the rear jaw & *Valstar* on the end of the front jaw.

 

[bastel]

Inverted screw system on Leinen, LES and SZ vises. Note how the nut is getting shorter. You can still open the vise but at one point the screw becomes exposed. Boo. But every mm saved is a penny earned I guess.

 

[dannyr]

bastel

the lower picture is very like (but not quite, or missing a sleeve?) a small Peter Wright bench vice (English co, English spelling), which was much advertised in late C18th, early C19th catalogues but still made up to 1950s? (in a wide range of sizes up to 10in jaw)- P W specialised in blacksmith's leg vices and this registered design was a bench-top version - generally made of real wrought iron, hammer welded where necessary and steeled jaws.
There were many makers of leg vices, but PW were one of the few who marked them as maker .. often made anvils as well

 

[rusty65]

My little Boley looks slightly different than yours. The size is the same.

Mine is actually a Lienen brand model which was another German company that was closely related to Boley.


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[bastel]

bastel

the lower picture is very like (but not quite, or missing a sleeve?) a small Peter Wright bench vice (English co, English spelling), which was much advertised in late C18th, early C19th catalogues but still made up to 1950s? (in a wide range of sizes up to 10in jaw)- P W specialised in blacksmith's leg vices and this registered design was a bench-top version - generally made of real wrought iron, hammer welded where necessary and steeled jaws.
There were many makers of leg vices, but PW were one of the few who marked them as maker .. often made anvils as well

Thanks for the tip. I googled a bit and the design of the oneI found is more a triangular slide instead of an inverted T? Probably a german copy, have seen one or two more that looked exactly the same. Still pondering if to get or not. Hmmm.

 

[Shiftless]

Bastel:
You said:
“Still pondering if to get or not. Hmmm.”

I’m afraid you’ve come to the wrong thread if you expect an unbiased opinion about whether or not to buy another vise.
Get it!

 

[dannyr]

Thanks for the tip. I googled a bit and the design of the oneI found is more a triangular slide instead of an inverted T? Probably a german copy, have seen one or two more that looked exactly the same. Still pondering if to get or not. Hmmm.

Yes couldn't see that v slide, but do now
(also correction -of course I meant late C19th, early C20th - shows my age .. how the centuries fly by
R van W

 

[bastel]

Bastel:
You said:
“Still pondering if to get or not. Hmmm.”

I’m afraid you’ve come to the wrong thread if you expect an unbiased opinion about whether or not to buy another vise.
Get it!

I need to find out its weight, so if there is any chance to get rid of it if I don't like it. It's 50€. Guy has a 5" heuer front vintage, too. For 30€. That would be the small vise. So if it is the big one, chances are it's too heavy :/. Plus I don't know if there would be any demand. For the heuer I know. Hmmhmm
I missed a deal for 50€ with such a vise in 6" + a VS4 not too long ago due to distance. But then the VS4 was worth it alone.

 

[ricleh]

Mine is actually a Lienen brand model which was another German company that was closely related to Boley.


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Leinen worked for G. Boley and designed the bench vise while working there. He left G. Boley and started his own company, Leinen, to make vises. G. Boley also made vises with his original design. Later Leinen started making watchmaker's lathes in competition with G. Boley. He convinced a widow surnamed Boley to become a partner in his company so he could rename it Boley and Leinen. Leinen and Boley & Leinen were the same company. Neither of these companies had any connection to G. Boley. Both G. Boley and Leinen were located in Esslingen, Germany.

 

[Outlawmws]

Not sure what you mean by exposed, but it appears to have a threaded shaft and follow the same principle as the Bison-Bial. Dove-tailed, too!

I guess I never looked that close at the European reverse vises, to notice the way the screw was. on (cheap) Homeowners vises with the screw above the slide and exposed (unlike the machinists vises) they tend to take a beating. the sleeve setup like that protects the threads.

On these the jaw driver mechanism IS exposed, but not the threads. Almost as well protected as a Machinist vise.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Yup. And thanks zkling for the distinction.

 

[Shiftless]

Merry Christmas

Wishing all of my online vise buddies and their families a happy holiday season.
This little display is here in our dining room until after New Years.
My wife bought the Santa and the workbench in Grass Valley CA. from the couple who made them. I added the vise after a long eBay search and successful bidding. No ID markings on the vise. Penny added for scale. A beer bottle didn’t seem quite appropriate.

 

[Loydski29]

Merry Christmas

Wishing all of my online vise buddies and their families a happy holiday season.
This little display is here in our dining room until after New Years.
My wife bought the Santa and the workbench in Grass Valley CA. from the couple who made them. I added the vise after a long eBay search and successful bidding. No ID markings on the vise. Penny added for scale. A beer bottle didn’t seem quite appropriate.

Shift that’s an awesome display the craftsmanship looks very good! Merry Christmas to you and your family as well!

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Merry Christmas

Wishing all of my online vise buddies and their families a happy holiday season.
This little display is here in our dining room until after New Years.
My wife bought the Santa and the workbench in Grass Valley CA. from the couple who made them. I added the vise after a long eBay search and successful bidding. No ID markings on the vise. Penny added for scale.

The vise should be about a 6 inch in "santa scale"
I just know someone is going to build a Vise Tree this year
Tis the season, Outlawmws has his santa hat on

 

[SkyPuncher]

Morning everyone, picked up a vise this weekend and just wanted to see what the model it is. I am assuming I know, but want to make sure before ordering some parts. It is a wilton 4" swivel. Weight is 55.8 pounds. One side has the numbers 101157 on static jaw, 101158 and K481 below it on dynamic jaw. Other side does not have any number. I am assuming this would make it a 400S model?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Clever, meticulous, joyful work, Shifty. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Outlawmws]

Very cool little bench display!

 

[Vise]

Man, some really nice finds on here since I last posted. Wanted to share the progress on the 286lb Rock Island 67 . Here it is with a set of 8 3/8” custom jaws from KMScott .

Now I’m going to send it off to Jeff Zariczny and his brother to get a meatball bushing pressed in and a new handle. Should look pretty good when it’s done.










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[Smitty]

Shift
Great job on the bench, you’re officially off the naughty list this year.

 

[Shiftless]

Thanks guys!
Get’s comments made me bring out a measuring tape. That carved wooden Santa is 12” tall. So the scale is approximately 1:6
The little vise jaws are 1.25 inches wide.
So Santa is posed behind a 7 1/2 incher !
SANTA GOES LARGE..
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(But not quite as much as Vise’s real monster RI 67. That one is really shaping up. Good work...
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[thin_concrete]

Two Wiltons and a Parker with some new paint and a little polishing. There is more time in the basement when there is not as much yard work

Those look wonderful! What colors are the Wilton and Parker?

 

[Shiftless]

Those look wonderful! What colors are the Wilton and Parker?

to that.
I have a Shop King in line for restoration. Get as usual, has set a high bar. Great work!

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Those look wonderful! What colors are the Wilton and Parker?

Thanks, The Parker is Krylon Italian Olive satin & Wilton is Ford tractor gray.

 

[Shiftless]

Thanks, The Parker is Krylon Italian Olive satin & Wilton is Ford tractor gray.

Thanks...
What about that attractive shade of red on the Shop King?

 

[Smitty]

I spent yesterday watching the Rams fall apart so I decided to clean up the Prentiss no 19 that I got a couple of weeks ago. I could tell that underneath 90 years of filth there was a pretty clean vise. The vise has 3 1/2” jaws and weighs in at 32 lbs. The swivel jaw moves freely and the smooth jaws are like new. This is by far the cleanest no. 19 that I have.


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[damon18]

Educate me please, what is this thing? Looks like it's on the end of a pole, what's the hole for?

 

[jonshonda]

Nice work Smitty. That would look great sitting next to my No 22 and No 5.

 

[zkling]

Educate me please, what is this thing? Looks like it's on the end of a pole, what's the hole for?

A versa vise missing its factory base.

 

[Shiftless]

Educate me please, what is this thing? Looks like it's on the end of a pole, what's the hole for?

That’s a Versa Vise
Here is a picture of mine with the factory mount.

 

[dannyr]

'Thing on a pole' is a vise.

Various makers (still available new?) - not sure of the original mfgr (versa vice as above?) but it's described sometimes as a carvers vise or maybe a gun vise (for carving wooden ****/handle, not the gun vice for target shooting or maintenance).

The tall thin jaws are for good access to the wood, fairly delicate, so don't whack em. A similar jaw was used in wooden tool handle making, eg fancy hand saws etc.

The 'pole. should be mounted near bench edge, and the vise can be attached as shown swivelled around it or taken off the pole and remounted at right angles for further access to the part being held.

 

[Smitty]

Nice work Smitty. That would look great sitting next to my No 22 and No 5.

Thanks Jon, I’m still waiting to see some pics of that no.5 and 22 as well.

 

[damon18]

The 'pole. should be mounted near bench edge, and the vise can be attached as shown swivelled around it or taken off the pole and remounted at right angles for further access to the part being held.

Thanks for the info, makes sense the hole gives two ways to mount the vise.

So what are these type vises called? I tried googling Pole Vise but nothing and Pipe vise gets a whole nother group of vises for working pipe.

 

[damon18]

Thanks zkling, Shiftless, dannyr

Found they still make them.
http://www.willburtversavise.com/

 

[Vise]

Thanks, Shift. And nice clean up Smitty. I have Prentiss 19 I got from a GJ member that I still need to clean up. It's not as clean as yours though.

 

[Smitty]

Thanks Vise. I’ve been lucky enough to find four since I’ve been collecting.


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