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Sir Thomas;

I tip my hat to you & your family for the extraordinary efforts expended on this venture.

Mr. Johnson left you his Seal of Approval right where he knew you would find it, and immediately grasp it's significance.

"Beau Travail" from Phil in Montreal.

Thank you so much and I truly believe he did. Really extraordinary isn't it?

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Wow, I am so jealous of cool old neat stuff you found. I ran across a picture of your Hudson (I believe that what it was) with the tree growing through it on another forum. I just registered and posted here so that I could receive updates to this thread.

Your shop reminds me of my fiance's grand father's garage. He mainly restored small engine's and tractors.

You are most welcome here. Maybe combined tractor and small engine repair was more common than we realize? There were dozens and dozens of small engine blocks left about.

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It's not for everyone, but yes, he is the detail guy in everything he does (takes after his father)(drives some people crazy sometimes)(others get use to it after prolonged contact with the guy!). But, you want that trait for anyone who is up in the cockpit of those big jets carrying you and 250+ others, don't you?

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[awesome pics of workshops that I could look at all day :bounce: ]

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Since I was putting in black and white tile floors I thought I'd use that same theme on the outlets. Past experience showed that they were not only difficult to find in white, they also showed dirt and grease easily.

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Nice idea re: contrasting colours for wall and points/switches... a guy I knew here in NZ had points with low-shine (brown!) LED's that turned on when the lights were off, so you could find them in the dark. Took him aaages to find them (I think he got them from Hungary in the end?)... I dunno, on the one hand I like it, on the other... [shrugs]
 

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Oh, and one more thing... FRP stands for FIBERGLAS REINFORCED PANELING (some might say PLYWOOD) and everybody has seen it around every day... it's the stuff many large truck and/or semi-trailer body sides are made with.
 

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Here are more "items" in the tool shed.

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This is the shop made grinder.

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Side view. The bottom feet of the stand is wood.

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This is the back side, belt drive easily seen. The grinder wheel on the right shows they got their money's worth out it! Not much left of it. :)

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I haven't looked at the motor yet but it's pretty old. BTW this grinder was operational in the shop as long as I can remember as a little kid and the sound of the flat belt slapping when it was running is very distinctive. It still works, turns fairly slow. The sound of it really moves me back in time. Almost eerie the way that sound also conjures up sights and smells from back then. Shut your eyes with it running and it's like a kind of time machine, really.


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This is an early honeycomb radiator. Guessing from the 1920's. There are no identifying marks as to the manufacturer that I've found. It's in pretty decent condition. I suppose that's why it was left.

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There are a bunch of items here. Gates Radiator hose display board on the left, steering column and steering wheel still attached from before 1920. I think it's from a truck, not sure. The valve cover is a Chevrolet script one.

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I think the blue cabinet falling over has a Walker script of some sort on it as I recall. To the left of the Gates hose display board is a red Thermoid Radiator hose display board. The curved object in front is a wood handled, horse drawn, single bottom plow. Wood is in excellent condition.

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There's a display board that I can't remember the manufacture's name but it's for brake lines. Bendix maybe.The plow share is buried in the dirt. In the foreground what looks like two 2 X 4's next to each other is really a steel wheeled portable engine stand. They used these to move a large single cylinder engine around the farm when that was the only power source. This was before the Rural Electrification Program (REP) in the 1930's which brought electrical power to the country's farms and remote areas. With a single cylinder gas engine and belt drive, farmers were able to pump water from their wells when the wind died down, power a clothes wash machine etc. They didn't have dedicated engines back then usually, couldn't afford them. Instead they had one and moved it from task to task. In some cases farmers couldn't even afford that so engines were brought to the farm by the engine's owner and rented out to the farmer for a few hours or days. I'm sure there is someone reading this who can fill us in more on this. Anyway, that's the stand for one of those engines, pretty cool really. It's in great condition. I'll have to get better pictures of it, that's all I've got right now. Sorrrrrrry :dunno:

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The curved wood handles of the plow seen. Two steel spoke wheels from some farm machine. They still have grease in the hubs. I'm betting they're in good condition and not too worn. Lack of grease is what usually wore them out. The dusty white angled object on the blue cabinet is an exterior sun visor for a car or truck.

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Beside the older Studebaker radiator shell, note the old " gum ball " red emergency light in the background. There is also an illuminating red "STOP " light that was used on the back of an ambulance which is what this is from I'm told. The ambulance checked in for repairs and never checked out. It was parted out and these parts were saved.

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Here's an old wood bench I just recently uncovered. That's a specialized vice whose name escapes me. OK, here's someone's chance to dazzle us with their vast knowledge. What kind of vice is it and what was it used for? :dunno: Don't be shy. It has a leg in the rear that goes all the way to the floor.

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These are a bunch of old tools I rounded up. A lot of them are sockets on dedicated handles before they made interchangeable socket heads. Haven't looked to find any manufactures marks yet. All in good time. Patience grasshopper, patience. :D

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Oh, and one more thing... FRP stands for FIBER REINFORCED PANELING (some might say PLYWOOD) and everybody has seen it around every day... it's the stuff many large truck and/or semi-trailer body sides are made with.

Thanks for that. I know it can be made with many types of backing wood panels bedsides plywood, like OSB which is what I used. It really is great material.

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It's not for everyone, but yes, he is the detail guy in everything he does (takes after his father)(drives some people crazy sometimes)(others get use to it after prolonged contact with the guy!). But, you want that trait for anyone who is up in the cockpit of those big jets carrying you and 250+ others, don't you?

Chris


Now just who is driving whom crazy here? Who would you be talking about Chris? :wtf: Have you gotten "use to it" from 35 years of "prolonged contact with the guy" hmmm?????:bounce:

Thomas
 

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In the foreground what looks like two 2 X 4's next to each other is really a steel wheeled portable engine stand. They used these to move a large single cylinder engine around the farm when that was the only power source. This was before the Rural Electrification Program (REP) in the 1930's which brought electrical power to the country's farms and remote areas. With a single cylinder gas engine and belt drive, farmers were able to pump water from their wells when the wind died down, power a clothes wash machine etc. They didn't have dedicated engines back then usually, couldn't afford them. Instead they had one and moved it from task to task. In some cases farmers couldn't even afford that so engines were brought to the farm by the engine's owner and rented out to the farmer for a few hours or days. I'm sure there is someone reading this who can fill us in more on this. Anyway, that's the stand for one of those engines, pretty cool really. It's in great condition. I'll have to get better pictures of it, that's all I've got right now. Sorrrrrrry :dunno:


I'm surprised in all this stuff you haven't run across a hit-n-miss motor, or at least a MayTag washer motor?? Just about every old farm had one around, my grandmother had and used a gas powered MayTag washer in her basement in my early memories, complete with the flexible exhaust pipe with teh muffler ball on the end, run up the basement stairs and out into the yard.
My dad swore there was a hit-n-miss motor around somewhere, but we looked several times and never came up with it.

My wife spotted me looking at the latest of your inside pics the other nite, first she'd seen of it, she said "some people just got too much time on their hands". I then showed here what you started with and she was fittingly impressed.
My wife is one of those that curls her nose at alot of stuff I do, yet supports it under her breath. I announced a couple weeks ago I was looking for a 70's Ford F250 Hi-boy truck, "whatta you want that for??" was her first reaction, but now she watches the papper for one every day??:thumbup:
 

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Another awoesome update...damm... such beautifull nice vise and information....you need to restore that vise.....

Only one question...where do you have all that stuff in the pics...? do you have another compartment to store all these things near garage?

Maybe you already explain this here....probably i skip this...don't know....grrrrrrrrr:shocking::shocking::shocking::shocking:
 

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Wow... great restoration!


After reading this it really made me remember my dads old shop and where I spent my time getting off the school bus when I was little.

My dad and grandfather owned an old blacksmiths shop right down the street from where I live now. It really resembled that building you have in alot of ways. It was also a blacksmiths garage, then auto repair shop throughout the years, until my dad and grandfather bought it and used it as a small engine/tractor repair shop up until 1990. Its since been torn down and the lot leveled. But, alot of what I've seen in your pics remind me of what I used to see/mess with down at their shop as a kid.

Also, we've got a vise just like that from the old shop as well as a single post, two I-beam lift similar to yours.
 

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I have been following this thread for quite awhile. I have enjoyed every bit of it.
A funny story we are at Smoky Mountain National Park today, they have an old blacksmith shop here, I was looking at the shop and told my daughter, this is a working blacksmith shop, it has an anvil, bellows, and a blacksmith vice. My daughter asked me how I know all of this stuff, it was funny because I did not know what a blacksmith vice was until this morning from this thread!
Those sleds would be cool to restore and ride down a hill.
The Chevrolet valve cover with the Chevrolet script are getting pretty rare.
 
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Another awoesome update...damm... such beautifull nice vise and information....you need to restore that vise.....

Only one question...where do you have all that stuff in the pics...? do you have another compartment to store all these things near garage?

Maybe you already explain this here....probably i skip this...don't know....grrrrrrrrr:shocking::shocking::shocking::shocking:

Dang Crusty, I thought you'd be taking notes while you read this.:dunno: Maybe you didn't know there's going to be a quiz on all the material in here at the end! :wtf: Look back on page 22, post #432 to see an early picture of the tool shed and 2 car garage where these items are found.

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The building I'm talking about is to the far right in this picture. It's a 2 car garage with an attached tool shed.The shop can be seen to the left by the backhoe. (this photo is from March 2006 BTW for those of you who ARE taking notes. :D)

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Here's what it looks like now.

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And in the background this is the barn that I built to replace both those buildings plus......

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.....the honey house where Mr. Johnson harvested honey. Both the 2 car and honey house are being moved this spring to another location and then the tool shed will be........ah, recycled.

Now about that quiz at the end of this thread. It will consist of part multiple choice, fill in the blank and part essay. I will grade on the curve but no extra credit questions will be allowed. Well OK, there will be this extra credit question, who sang - Hot House of Omagararshid?

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Wow... great restoration!


After reading this it really made me remember my dads old shop and where I spent my time getting off the school bus when I was little.

My dad and grandfather owned an old blacksmiths shop right down the street from where I live now. It really resembled that building you have in alot of ways. It was also a blacksmiths garage, then auto repair shop throughout the years, until my dad and grandfather bought it and used it as a small engine/tractor repair shop up until 1990. Its since been torn down and the lot leveled. But, alot of what I've seen in your pics remind me of what I used to see/mess with down at their shop as a kid.

Also, we've got a vise just like that from the old shop as well as a single post, two I-beam lift similar to yours.

That's kind of an amazing coincidence isn't it? Do you have any old pictures of it inside? How about the lift? Love to see them. :thumbup: Too bad it got torn down, that could easily have been the fate of my shop. :sad: Thanks for sharing the memory and do post pictures if you can come up with any.

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I'm surprised in all this stuff you haven't run across a hit-n-miss motor, or at least a MayTag washer motor?? Just about every old farm had one around, my grandmother had and used a gas powered MayTag washer in her basement in my early memories, complete with the flexible exhaust pipe with teh muffler ball on the end, run up the basement stairs and out into the yard.
My dad swore there was a hit-n-miss motor around somewhere, but we looked several times and never came up with it.

My wife spotted me looking at the latest of your inside pics the other nite, first she'd seen of it, she said "some people just got too much time on their hands". I then showed here what you started with and she was fittingly impressed.
My wife is one of those that curls her nose at alot of stuff I do, yet supports it under her breath. I announced a couple weeks ago I was looking for a 70's Ford F250 Hi-boy truck, "whatta you want that for??" was her first reaction, but now she watches the papper for one every day??:thumbup:

I'm a little surprised also that no hit-n-miss engines surfaced. Frankly I don't ever remember there being one out there even "back in the day" back when I was there as a youngster. I'm sure they were repaired in the shop over the years but by the early 60's at least they were long gone. I'm still finding things in the tool shed so maybe part of one is lurking around yet. They were pretty crude affairs but they worked and were simple, simple.

As for your wife, truth be told Chris used to be like that also. Over time ( I've know her since I was 14 ) as some of my more memorable projects have almost always turned out OK she's pretty supportive now. Sounds like we're both blessed with great partners doesn't it? :thumbup::thumbup:

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Yardbirds... on Roger The Engineer

Should have know you'd come up with it Rick, but did you have to do a Google search first?

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..........there is some relevance here........

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...........I was listening to this while I was replying...........

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This was recorded on.........

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............Edsel Records so it is automotive related.....somewhat, don't ya think? :dunno: See side two, cut # 2. :D

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Yes he does :) Could have that derusted, painted, greased & mounted someplace over a weekend....

Maybe mount it on the welding bench...

Since I just came across this I haven't given it any thought really. Restore it for sure, probably powder coat it, more durable. As to where to mount it, ya, maybe the welders bench........good call Rick, thanks :thumbup:

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Nice...because i will be in holidays during a week, so i will be checking this thread every moment...we need some pics before.:beer:

You need to understand I've got 2 Walker floor jacks projects going, the bulk oil tanks (3), a pedestal ECO air meter almost done, recalibrating my wall hung ECO air meter, shelving in the barn to put up, benches for the barn, outside lighting to install on the barn, landscaping and grading around the barn now that the ground is drying out, drag racing season is starting soon and I need to get out on the track for test and tune, Chris needs to be told how sweet she is etc. sooooooooooo it might be a while on that vice. :confused: Besides I think you need to go back and reread everything taking notes this time around. :D

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I have been following this thread for quite awhile. I have enjoyed every bit of it.
A funny story we are at Smoky Mountain National Park today, they have an old blacksmith shop here, I was looking at the shop and told my daughter, this is a working blacksmith shop, it has an anvil, bellows, and a blacksmith vice. My daughter asked me how I know all of this stuff, it was funny because I did not know what a blacksmith vice was until this morning from this thread!
Those sleds would be cool to restore and ride down a hill.
The Chevrolet valve cover with the Chevrolet script are getting pretty rare.

Donnie, the rumor is this thread will soon be required reading in school since it's so all encompassing. History, physics, construction trades, architecture, horticulture, chemistry ( Well I think Chris and I have good chemistry, don't you? :dunno: ) and now music.:thumbup:

Thomas
 

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You need to understand I've got 2 Walker floor jacks projects going, the bulk oil tanks (3), a pedestal ECO air meter almost done, recalibrating my wall hung ECO air meter, shelving in the barn to put up, benches for the barn, outside lighting to install on the barn, landscaping and grading around the barn now that the ground is drying out, drag racing season is starting soon and I need to get out on the track for test and tune, Chris needs to be told how sweet she is etc. sooooooooooo it might be a while on that vice. :confused: Besides I think you need to go back and reread everything taking notes this time around. :D

Thomas

;) thanks for the explanation....my problem its the english.....probably its not good enought.....:S and probably i read this before....but not catch....

But you're right...i need to make one second read on this since the begining...

A few days i'm thinking...." That thread should give such a nice book!!!" you need to think about it...eheheheh

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Donnie, the rumor is this thread will soon be required reading in school since it's so all encompassing. History, physics, construction trades, architecture, horticulture, chemistry ( Well I think Chris and I have good chemistry, don't you? :dunno: ) and now music.:thumbup:

Thomas

Ah yes, a new direction for the thread.

I give you, "The Renaissance (Man) Thread"

PS Don't forget proper writing skills(z).:thumbup:
 

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Should have know you'd come up with it Rick, but did you have to do a Google search first?


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............Edsel Records so it is automotive related.....somewhat, don't ya think? :dunno: See side two, cut # 2. :D

Thomas

I like the note:

"All drawings are ficticious and are not meant to represent in shape or form the following: Arthur Sledge.... etc.
 
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The steering wheel is a Ford product a little newer than a Model A, no throttle lever or spark advance just under the wheel.
The vise is commonly called a post vise.
The steel spoke wheels are from farm implements.
Most of the tee handle tools in the bucket are from vehicle tool kits.
Don't recognize the honeycomb radiator, 20s era tho.


Grew up around a wrecking yard and this is the back yard of the family home.

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the steering wheel is a ford product a little newer than a model a, no throttle lever or spark advance just under the wheel.
The vise is commonly called a post vise.
The steel spoke wheels are from farm implements.
Most of the tee handle tools in the bucket are from vehicle tool kits.
Don't recognize the honeycomb radiator, 20s era tho.


Grew up around a wrecking yard and this is the back yard of the family home.

Nuts
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wow!!!!!!!!!
 
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Continuing with some outside material,

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This is the Case tractor (on the right) that was left. Beyond it is the trailer where radio repairs were done. That's a comparatively newer (early 1960's) Case to the left that was used for my grade work. You can see they are close to the same size.

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It's a 4 cylinder gas engine, has hydraulics. Behind are the '57 Chevy and the '48 Dodge.

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It did have small trees growing up through it, but nothing like the Terraplane. I can not find a data plate anywhere so I really don't know what model it is. It's been in this spot I'm told about 20 years. It ran when parked!

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I relocated it inside for a while until I could find a home for it. The wood wall in the background is the back side of the 2 car garage. The tool shed was grafted to it much like the lift enclosure was grafted to the original shop. I would have liked to restore the Case but I knew that I couldn't get to it for several years and it was a little larger than I really needed. I've now got a John Deere 855 diesel, 4 wheel drive that is much more suitable. It's replacing the JD 650 that I used for the shop restoration as seen in several pictures here. These are the only close up pictures I have of the Case. It wound up with a young neighbor who had just recently graduated from the University of Illinois in engineering. He trailer it to his grandfathers farm not all that far from here and it is being restored by the two of them. He checks in periodically and tells me it's going fine so far. Forgot to ask him if he ran down the model.


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Here's an old friend to you might remember. This is the tractor Mr Johnson made to tend to his garden. Note the two transmissions, chain drive, the spoke rear wheel etc.

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Here's the front view of it. Solid rear wheel on this side, single cylinder engine. He made it with parts laying around the shop. I'll bet it was a bare to steer! Shop in the background with no concrete driveway yet tells me this was early, early spring 2006.

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A few more items that were left for my care. That's the 2 car garage and tool shed in the background.

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In the background is an interesting implement. For use in home gardens, gas powered, it had that sheet metal nose to allow it to maneuver in close rows of plants without harming them. Bet someone here recognizes it and can clue us in. Maybe Nuts? :dunno: That's the original weed whacker in front. Those were usually used to mow along roads and ditches. Behind it on the right is a steel wheeled milk can carrier. It would carry two metal (correct me if I'm wrong here on the size) 10 gallon milk cans. The pickup in the rear has sunk up to it's axles. All these (except the home made tractor!) and more farm implement items were donated to an auction that befitted a local agriculture historical society as I've mentioned before.

Here's a heads up. I've got some pictures of an old power hack saw that was left along with more tool shed items coming shortly. It's a great old piece of power equipment that will find it's way back into the shop!

Thomas
 

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In the background is an interesting implement. For use in home gardens, gas powered, it had that sheet metal nose to allow it to maneuver in close rows of plants without harming them. Bet someone here recognizes it and can clue us in.

I can't tell for sure from this angle but it looks like an early Jari Mower to me (do a google search on that name and a bunch of photos will turn up.) My dad had one when I was a kid, it did a great job of cutting brush and weeds. Today I live four blocks from their original factory; at some point years and years ago they were sold to a company in Mankato, MN. http://www.year-a-round.com/jari_sickle_mower.html#2
 
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I like the note:

"All drawings are ficticious and are not meant to represent in shape or form the following: Arthur Sledge.... etc.

This whole cover is a hoot. The "Rodger" they're taking about on the title BTW was the recording engineer on that LP, not a railroad engineer. If you look closely at many of the '60's and '70's Rock record albums you see all kinds of interesting, fun things like that. Sometimes it even extends to the sleeves that held the record. Pink Floyd was probably the master at that. They had all kinds of gags going on. CD's are convenient, but you're missing a lot with them.

Ops,off topic again! Bad Thomas, bad!!! :)

Thomas
 
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I can't tell for sure from this angle but it looks like an early Jari Mower to me (do a google search on that name and a bunch of photos will turn up.) My dad had one when I was a kid, it did a great job of cutting brush and weeds. Today I live four blocks from their original factory; at some point years and years ago they were sold to a company in Mankato, MN. http://www.year-a-round.com/jari_sickle_mower.html#2

Stuart very interesting, thanks so much. I'm afraid that might be the only picture I have of it. The sheet metal was rusty but it wasn't dented up and everything was there. I hope some collector bought it and restored it. Pretty rare to find one not all beat up. Very distinctive piece of equipment that just looks cool.

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Wow from me too!!!!!! Thanks Nuts for the information. :thumbup: Any chance you could stop by for a few hours here and I.D. some more "stuff"?

Thomas


Be happy to Thomas, I find your quest to rebuild this shop and the goodies
you found to be fascinating.

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Unflipping believable

Thomas,

I cannot finish this 46 pages (up to now I guess) and not say something... Not only is this a WOW but truly inspiring level of detail and work. :bowdown:

If I read this correctly it seems it took about 4.5 years to get it to where it is today or was it shorter (or longer). The amazing part to me is all of the equipment and parts, the building is a find and I have to imagine the parts are a treasure.

I showed a few pictures to my wife and I think she is now nervous of additional future projects.

Thanks for sharing :thumbup:
 
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