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[superautobacs]

Nice haul!

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[Qualitytools]

Very Nice Indeed!

 

[losvre]

Not bad[emoji16]

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[maico]

It's a bit like a baby with candy, difficult to stop buying this stuff once started...they put vanilla essence in the transparent cellulose acetate and rubber to make it smell nice.

 

[superautobacs]

My latest PB purchase:


PB Swiss Insider by ChrisCas aka Superautobacs, on Flickr



PB Swiss Insider by ChrisCas aka Superautobacs, on Flickr

 

[GrayEngineer]

This is my first PB Swiss haul. These are some seriously high quality tools.

 

[CGarage]

Great tools and great company!

 

[measuredtwice]

This is my first PB Swiss haul. These are some seriously high quality tools.

Nice haul! I picked up a few more full size and precision sets during the holiday sale. I haven't tried their swappable handles yet but maybe I'll try them during the next sale.

 

[GrayEngineer]

Nice haul! I picked up a few more full size and precision sets during the holiday sale. I haven't tried their swappable handles yet but maybe I'll try them during the next sale.

Thanks!

I went with the swappable set since it it seems to offer a lot of bang for the buck, especially since it was my first foray into PB Swiss. I'm highly impressed with the level of quality and attention to detail given to all aspects of these tools. I've been a big fan of Snap-on tools, but the past couple of years I've noticed their QC slipping, as well the over all quality in regards to some tools they offer. This has cause me to seek other options for high quality tools. Just from this initial order, I have no doubt I'll be purchasing a bunch more of PB Swiss's offerings.

 

[measuredtwice]

Thanks!

I went with the swappable set since it it seems to offer a lot of bang for the buck, especially since it was my first foray into PB Swiss. I'm highly impressed with the level of quality and attention to detail given to all aspects of these tools. I've been a big fan of Snap-on tools, but the past couple of years I've noticed their QC slipping, as well the over all quality in regards to some tools they offer. This has cause me to seek other options for high quality tools. Just from this initial order, I have no doubt I'll be purchasing a bunch more of PB Swiss's offerings.

Those swappable blades have that nice knurling on the shafts. I'm jealous that my fixed blades don't have it--haha!

 

[visionguru]

My "seldom used" screwdriver drawer. Love the workmanship of PB, a little too nice to work on a car with. I save them for computer and electronics work. Haven't seen much action.

 

[Mr. Tool]

Here are the PB Swiss 225 Series sets that I recently received, their.....

Slotted screwdrivers (225 Series)

Nut Drivers (226 Series)

Philips screwdrivers & Hex (227 Series)

 

[Jack84]

Most of the PB stuff.

 

[JBH]

This is my first PB Swiss haul. These are some seriously high quality tools.

How do you like the micro screwdrivers? The 3.5mm shafts don't work with other handles (and the standard 4mm ones don't work in the PB Swiss handle). The plus side there is that I've run into recessed screws where a 4mm shaft won't fit, but the 3.5mm PB Swiss one does.

I would prefer some sort of ball detent system (a la Wiha System 4) to the friction collet, which for all the jewel-like knurling will not hold the shaft at a given length when pressure is applied.

 

[GrayEngineer]

How do you like the micro screwdrivers? The 3.5mm shafts don't work with other handles (and the standard 4mm ones don't work in the PB Swiss handle). The plus side there is that I've run into recessed screws where a 4mm shaft won't fit, but the 3.5mm PB Swiss one does.

I would prefer some sort of ball detent system (a la Wiha System 4) to the friction collet, which for all the jewel-like knurling will not hold the shaft at a given length when pressure is applied.

I like the micro drivers a lot. The handle secures the blades very well, and you can tighten the collet nut to the point that the blade won't slide into the handle unless there is a significant amount of force applied to it. I also like having the knurling of the collet nut on the handle since my finger tips land right on top of it and gives me more grip to turn the driver. This is the best interchangeable tip or blade micro/precision driver I've used to date, I like it much more than my Wiha micro driver.

 

[Mr. Tool]

A couple more of my PB Swiss tools that I have (even have their bottle opener too!).

 

[Ton ton]

Nice screwdrivers. Thanks for the thread.

 

[CGarage]

Some of my stash

 

[JBH]

Recent PB Swiss acquisitions:

515 precision screwdriver set, TX20 security socket, long-nose ratchet screwdriver with bit compartment.

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515 is an extremely compact set. Here it is rolled up, compared to a Wiha 4mm interchangeable blade pouch:
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The handle is also tiny; here compare to 4mm Felo, Engineer, Wiha standard, Wiha Picofinish:
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I will say the collet, while impeccably machined and finished like jewelry, does not grip the 3.5mm shaft as well as 4mm Felo or Engineer handles grip 4mm shafts. Don’t push down too hard on it! A ball detent system (e.g. Wiha System 4) is better design. Also, there's basically no rolling resistance on the thing. If you put it on a slightly non-level surface it's off to the races! With System 4-style shafts and a Swissgrip handle this set would be perfect.

Yes, that 3.5mm above is correct. PB Swiss micro screwdrivers shafts proprietary, are incompatible with standard 4mm micro shafts. So don't expect to buy the set and supplement the blades with Wiha or Felo, or use the blades with an Engineer handle. However, the 3.5mm PB Swiss blades do fit places where 4mm ones can’t, here for example it will fit deeply enough to engage the set screws in a Neutrik double banana plug but a 4mm hex shaft is too thick:
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The TX20 security socket is so beautifully machined it makes Stahlwille and Hazet bit sockets look crude. However, read the specs carefully, from multiple sources. I assumed that this bit socket was 1/4" drive. Nope! 3/8". So I can either buy an adapter or add a ratchet to the kit where I intended to use it. That means it goes in the pile of tools to put on sale once I find the time to photograph properly and write ad copy...

On to ratcheting, bit-holding screwdrivers. PB Swiss are IMO best of breed in terms of feel in use. I've had the short nose one for a long time, and just added the long nose.
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Both feel exactly the same, unlike different samples of ratcheting tools from a certain white van company popular around here.

I thought the long nose ratchet screwdriver would just be an extra tube on the end of the short nose, but actually they’re fairly different.

 

[Mr. Tool]

Also have the Precision 515 set as well.

 

[CallumRD1]

For those of you with the 215 series screwdrivers with interchangeable blades, how do you like them? I like the concept a lot but I’m a little worried about how much wobble and slop may exist in the system. I frequently end up in situations where I want to be using very precise, high quality screwdrivers but can’t fit a 1/4” bit driver and don’t want to carry a large set of normal screwdrivers. For this use case a comprehensive set of the 215 series would be perfect.

 

[superautobacs]

I can't speak for the 215 series, but I have an assortment of 225 series stuff that I bought some years ago and they are by far, my least favourite PB tools. In case any one out there is wondering and thinking of purchasing the 225 series stuff, they have a lot of slop. During actual use, the inherent wobble, coupled with the fact that there's no way of keeping the hinge in a locked position (straight or 90* degree positions), it can be a bit fiddly... not very user-friendly.

photo is from when they were relatively new:

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[testwerke]

A couple more of my PB Swiss tools that I have (even have their bottle opener too!).

Absolutely love the PB Swiss pick tool set. Never thought I would have a use for picks, but it comes in handy so often! Just the right size too.

 

[JBH]

Also have the Precision 515 set as well.

Thoughts? Are they your go to mini-screwdrivers, or do you prefer others?

 

[Dave455]

For those of you with the 215 series screwdrivers with interchangeable blades, how do you like them? I like the concept a lot but I’m a little worried about how much wobble and slop may exist in the system. I frequently end up in situations where I want to be using very precise, high quality screwdrivers but can’t fit a 1/4” bit driver and don’t want to carry a large set of normal screwdrivers. For this use case a comprehensive set of the 215 series would be perfect.

Firstly, the concept of interchangeable blades, rather than bits, works well.

You can often fit an interchangeable blade into places that an interchangeable bit won’t, e.g. electrical terminal screws. A comprehensive set is still easy to carry and light weight. The PB blades are the best out there.

I bought my first probably nearly 20 years ago in a roll up set on a deal. Awesome quality, and the fit of handle to blades is great - zero slop or wobble. I bought a spare handle at the same time and it’s as good.

I bought another set to leave where I worked, maybe 15 years ago, and the blade to handle fit is nowhere near as good. The importer said there had been some problems, and they had introduced a handle that was a looser fit, but I don’t know why you would. In the end I realised that most of the slop was longitudinal rather than lateral, so I machined a small spacer and glued it in, and that sorted 95% of the problems. Shouldn’t have to, but there you go! Don’t know what the current handles are like, but it’s likely they have sorted this out!

Personally, for the use you have in mind I think the system would work well. I’d buy a handle and one blade and try it out! Despite the issues, I still prefer the PB to the other systems out there! Second choice would probably be the Felo. I have a set of these in my electrical box, so I always have every style of driver on a job!

 

[Dave455]

Some pictures.

First shows the regular size PB215 handle and blades. This is the handle I had to modify with a spacer, and is now fine! One advantage of this system, I’d that even using blades with small tips, such as the 2.5mm ball hex, you still get a full size handle. As I still have a full size hand, this suits me.

Second picture shows one of the ball hex tips. Despite heavy use there is very little wear. The finish, sure, but the tool tip, no. Don’t think anyone can beat PB in this respect.

Third pic shows the bigger PB 225 driver and blades. Not everyone likes the jointed handle that’s standard, but personally I do. You don’t flex it when twisting, but you can get extra leverage if needed. These blades go up to a 1/2 inch slotted, so are quite sizeable.

Last picture shows my favourite combo ever. The PB “ratcheting cross handle” for 225 series blades. PB ratchets are lovely, very strong and silky smooth, and this handle is probably the most ergonomic ever designed. I’d prefer a harder material, but can’t deny the santoprene is comfortable!

 

[measuredtwice]

I only have fixed blades from PB and am curious about the interchangeable sets so I'm enjoying reading the comments and seeing the photos.

 

[mr.lemons]

This is my favourite PB swiss driver. Completely subjective but to me is has perfect proportions/ergonomics for small jobs around the house.

 

[wout]

My latest Swiss tool buy is a little bigger...

gr
Wout

 

[Qualitytools]

My latest Swiss tool buy is a little bigger...

gr
Wout

But Wout, it's not a Hazet!

 

[wout]

But Wout, it's not a Hazet!

Sorry sometimes good quality comes with another name

Wout

 

[Mr. Tool]

Thoughts? Are they your go to mini-screwdrivers, or do you prefer others?

All depends.

In all fairness....

I keep the PB Swiss mini screw set in a tool box with special tools, one of a kind tools, etc. so when I use that specific tool box, then yes they do get used.

I also have a Wiha mini screwdriver set that I keep on my work bench and so whenever I'm working there, well of course those are within arms reach and so get used.

Really so both sets get used when needed so I really don't have a specific "go to set".

I will say though that the PB Swiss set is of a bit higher quality made compared to the Wiha set ( which is of good quality as well ).

The following picture is the Wiha mini screwdriver set (which came with a free plier!) that I had purchased back in 2013 on a Black Friday special deal offered from KC Tools.

https://www.kctoolco.com/wiha-26190...n=1011897.iqsneu9&subid=k4hgveo09f0025g3058mf

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225792

 

[superautobacs]

My most frequently used PB Swiss tools:

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[Gezginite]

My latest Swiss tool buy is a little bigger...

gr
Wout

What maschine is that?

 

[dkroth]

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I use this for that job.

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[Krokodil]

I have been looking at those coin drivers. Might pull he trigger.

 

[superautobacs]

I use this for that job.

Given the choice, I'd take my flat-blade any day. The coin driver would mar the corners of the plastic and be prone to cam out.













The stubby, 100° angle hex key came into good use.


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100° angle provided the clearance against the transmission housing, and the stubby length meant no hassling with the hard cable line:


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[Gezginite]

Today, the I finally got the tools that I ordered.
Shows that the Swissgrip ESD handle with magnetic bitholder for 1/4" bits is first produced when someone places a order (at least on the page I ordered it why it took a bit longer time and with the pandemic issues.
Anyway, I payed 350€ (around $380) including shipping (almost $19) for all the items.

This is my whole order:

Pliers
1 Knipex - 02 01 180 - High Leverage Combination Pliers, 180 mm
1 Knipex - 74 01 180 - High Leverage Diagonal Cutter, 180 mm
1 Knipex - 86 03 180 - Pliers Wrench, 180 mm

Screwdrivers
1 PB Swiss Tools - 249 - Classic screwdriverset, Slotted/Phillips/Pozidriv, 12 pieces
1 PB Swiss Tools - 192.0-60 - Classic screwdriver, Pozidriv size 0, blade 60 mm
1 PB Swiss Tools - 192.3-150 - Classic screwdriver, Pozidriv size 3, blade 150 mm

Hex keys
1 PB Swiss Tools - 212.LH-10 RB - Rainbow L-key set, long, Inbus with ball end 1,5 to 10 mm

Hammer
1 PB Swiss Tools - 303.3 - Nylon hammer, without rebound, size 3 (32 mm)
1 PB Swiss Tools - 300.C 3 - Spare plastic head with hardened steel insert, size 3

Bit related items
1 PB Swiss Tools - 8451.10-30 M ESD - Swissgrip ESD handle with magnetic bitholder for 1/4" bits
3 PB Swiss Tools - 970.Leer - BitBlock without bits for C6/E6.97x set, red
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/5 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T5
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/6 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T6
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/7 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T7
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/8 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/9 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T9
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/10 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T10
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/15 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T15
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/20 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T20
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/25 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T25
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/27 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T27
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/30 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T30
1 PB Swiss Tools - C6.400/40 - PrecisionBit Torx, 25 mm long, size T40

Other tools
1 PB Swiss Tools - 630.60 - Bradawl light-duty, round 4 mm
1 PB Swiss Tools - 820.3 - Electricians flat chisel, 10 mm, 250 mm long

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[cbracer]

Some pictures.

First shows the regular size PB215 handle and blades. This is the handle I had to modify with a spacer, and is now fine! One advantage of this system, I’d that even using blades with small tips, such as the 2.5mm ball hex, you still get a full size handle. As I still have a full size hand, this suits me.

Second picture shows one of the ball hex tips. Despite heavy use there is very little wear. The finish, sure, but the tool tip, no. Don’t think anyone can beat PB in this respect.

Third pic shows the bigger PB 225 driver and blades. Not everyone likes the jointed handle that’s standard, but personally I do. You don’t flex it when twisting, but you can get extra leverage if needed. These blades go up to a 1/2 inch slotted, so are quite sizeable.

Last picture shows my favourite combo ever. The PB “ratcheting cross handle” for 225 series blades. PB ratchets are lovely, very strong and silky smooth, and this handle is probably the most ergonomic ever designed. I’d prefer a harder material, but can’t deny the santoprene is comfortable!

So how is the play in the 215 series? I would go for it if there was no play, can't stand rattling bits.

 

[Qualitytools]

I thought this thread is fitting for this video, enjoy!