2020 Garage Sale Thread

[GalaxyRat]

Thanks Bimmer! Keep reading for another 4” adjustable suffix question!

Went to two sales today and got some interesting things despite missing out on a 3-1/2 inch Wilton bullet…

First stop, had an eclectic mix of brands but he definitely leaned toward Proto. Everything on the left side of the first pic is Proto (mostly LA) except the top two swivel sockets. The larger is Apex and the small one is unmarked.



It definitely was a day for swivel sockets. I had never seen the ball joint swivels before. The large stud extractor is something new for me, too. I’ll have to google how to use it.

Here is a question for the experts. The PO criminally defaced almost all his Snap-on sockets—see the first photo below—and therefore I passed on most of them. The group of three swivels at the bottom of the first photo all have the Proto name ground out. I distinctly recall reading about some company that was compelled to do that (I don’t recall which company or where I read it) but it may just be the PO’s penchant for defacing his tools. Maybe it was Plomb—can anyone recall that event?



Anyway, continuing. Snapped up a 6” S-K box with the biggest cotter pins I ever saw along with a couple of deep S-K sockets.
The group in the middle is all Snap-on, three of which are the only ones I found not defaced.
Two Wright swivels, one marked -45 and one 42+. Below them two Plomb swivels both with the arrows down/up.
Finally, I couldn’t pass up the cute little 6” Western Auto Supply pipe wrench. Forged on the reverse is MFD HB 2436—could HB be Herbrand?

Although the pricing started at $40, it ended at $25.


Second stop was a $7 mixed bag that included onesies and twosies from Proto, Barcalo, Indestro, couple of as-yet-unidentified wrenches, a New Britain socket, a very thin Indestro DOE, Vlchek, a Musselman Universal Bicycle Wrench, three Plomb WF pieces—9/32 rat & ext and 3/8 swivel—rat and swivel have the down/up arrows, Ford and Blackhawk.

Finally, another 4” adjustable—this time it’s marked with 704-S and the maker’s name has been ground off. Note the plain hanging hole with the N.3.6 code. Reverse has only Forged Alloy Steel. Plomb or Proto? PO defacing or manufacture?

I found a Snap-On socket with the name ground off. It's got the "E" stamp on it from 1944 (I believe). Not a clue why it would have been ground off.

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[GalaxyRat]

I did some checking and I believe that your 4” adjustable grind off is a post LA Proto due to the lack of broaching and reinforcement of the hanging hole.
-Don

Nice detective work!

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[Private Lugnutz]

I did some checking and I believe that your 4” adjustable grind off is a post LA Proto due to the lack of broaching and reinforcement of the hanging hole.

That makes more sense. That grind-off led me down two wild garden paths. So, 1956, my 2nd cup of coffee explanation, but just a routine 'factory second' grind-off for whatever reason, not because it was rejected for not being broached. When did they start reinforcing them and leaving off the broaching? My PENENS adjustables are all un-broached, but not reinforced.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Today's flea haul (Lugz 2020_45). Partial Williams midget set. Blue-Point tubular hack saw frame. A pair of Lutz file and tool handles. A Kraeuter DOE that I am hoping is not a dupe. Champion DeArment ball-pein. Oiler can. And a bullet and shot mold.

 

[bmwrd0]

"Thanks Bimmer! Keep reading for another 4” adjustable suffix question!"

Well, it looks like the 4" questions have been resolved, but there is a minor quibble...

Its Beemer, not Bimmer. See, they refer to two different things, the first one being in relation to motorcycles (motorrad) and the second is in relation to the automobile (automobil). I rode a '78 R100/7 for years, along with a '75 RD350.

 

[d42jeep]

Lugz,
If you decide to sell the partial Williams set, it will probably pay for your entire haul.
There was one garage sale listed in the Tahoe area Craigslist and it said lots of tools so my neighbor and I hit it early. It was obvious that the seller just wanted to move stuff because prices were practically give away. Here is what I brought home. The majority of the sockets are somewhat rusty Challenger by Proto and regular Proto. The large DOEs are two Armstrongs and a Whitman and Barnes. The last picture is for bmwrd0.
-Don

 

[pelletman]

What I got today

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[pelletman]

What I couldn't get today

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[pelletman]

Got this too.

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[bmwrd0]

You are starting to develope a bit of a vice there, Pelletman.

 

[Jim_No_Garage]

I hit some Estate Sales with Mrs_No_Garage as she was "working from home" today.

The find of the day was a Snap On 67-B 1/2" Ratchet adapter for $1. There is a little chrome loss but the date code is from 1951 - so it looks pretty good for 69 years of age.

Cheers

Jim

 

[b.well]

My neighbor and I revisited another neighbor’s storage shed that will soon be demolished and we grabbed several items that otherwise would have ended up in landfill. My neighbor grabbed the bulk of the goodies since I had scored there before.
-Don

Nice saves! Good to give new life to forgotten tools!!

I can state with certainty the these were permanently mounted on the vise I found yesterday before 1988 when the original owner passed away. Judging by their condition I suspect they were mounted long before that.
-Don

I bet that static jaw face is screwed in. I know some jaws have separate holes for the face and mounting (ie 4-6 holes total). If it does have more than two holes in the static jaw it doesn't answer what jaws with only two holes were meant to do.

I am not trying to dig deeper or carry this on . I think it's logical to have wood on both faces. Although, wouldn't leather be good enough on one?...lol.

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Holly Meatballs! Holly Vises! Cloudy with a chance of Meatball Vises today!!!

 

[b.well]

I was invited back to another estate sale over give away. Does this happen to anyone else? Both times were FB Market postings where we had a messenger chat.

This is where I bought the Disston and Atkins hand saws and Craftsman and Stanley hand planes. They must have had 4 estate sales. There were two different houses they were clearing out and I think they held all the estate sales at this one house. So maybe not always the same stuff. They said come today and take what you want. Anything left is going to the curb!!!

To my surprise I think all the wrenches, files and drill bits that were there last time were still there. And still, since my first visit, a rusty Stanley hand plane. Most of the wrenches are BluePoint, but there are also Bonney, Craftsman, Dunlap, Mascot, and the majority are DBE.

Everything in the house was up for grabs too so I got my wife and daughter some things too

Ohh the Wilton Vise just happen to be in my trunk. Not from today.

Almost forgot. Couple things not pictured.
1. Disston and Sons Philadelphia hand saw
2. Craftsman Vintage gas powered blower 185mph 385CFM I believe.

 

[3baygarage]

Sweet. Looks like you got a bunch of Whitworth Blue Points. I think that deserves a You ****!

Some nice scores guys.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Here are some cleaned-up photos..., more on 'Champion Dearment', 'Show your DOE's', and 'hacksaws' threads.

I might have to ask some questions about the Dowidat doohickey (see Pic 5) on the 'Old World' thread. Except for the box end being closed it kinda sorta looks like a snap-over type flare nut wrench for tubing and such to me, but the jaw doesn't open. As best as I can deduce, it is a gearless friction ratchet wrench. When you turn clockwise, that hinged piece holding the box end inside it grabs. When you turn counter-clockwise, it releases, and its free to spin, until you want to get another bite by turning clockwise again. Nifty.

 

[Old Radar]

I did some checking and I believe that your 4” adjustable grind off is a post LA Proto due to the lack of broaching and reinforcement of the hanging hole.
-Don

That makes more sense. That grind-off led me down two wild garden paths. So, 1956, my 2nd cup of coffee explanation, but just a routine 'factory second' grind-off for whatever reason, not because it was rejected for not being broached. When did they start reinforcing them and leaving off the broaching? My PENENS adjustables are all un-broached, but not reinforced.

Thanks for the through analysis gentlemen! Tin Medic and I attended an estate sale this morning and afterwards spent some time going over some of my collection. He posited the "lawsuit" explanation for the grind off, but we didn't delve into the broach/no-broach aspect.

 

[Old Radar]

"Thanks Bimmer! Keep reading for another 4” adjustable suffix question!"

Well, it looks like the 4" questions have been resolved, but there is a minor quibble...

Its Beemer, not Bimmer. See, they refer to two different things, the first one being in relation to motorcycles (motorrad) and the second is in relation to the automobile (automobil). I rode a '78 R100/7 for years, along with a '75 RD350.

Duly noted! Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Old Radar]

pelletman--That's some serious iron you scored! Congratulations!

b.well--Any tool for free is great, but that many free tools must mean you ****!

 

[LesserSon]

I found a Snap-On socket with the name ground off. It's got the "E" stamp on it from 1944 (I believe). Not a clue why it would have been ground off.

The alloy restrictions were in effect, so the steel was not up to the usual materials standards S-O guaranteed. I suspect the grind-off indicates it was unsold stock when the restrictions were lifted, possibly offered at discount without warranty.
I’m not suggesting this was universal practice, because individual sales agents could have handled things differently.

 

[bmwrd0]

The rains have hit, as of this AM, but at the end of the week I was able to get out and hit a few sales. Not a very promising weekend when I first started looking, but things have picked up. And here is what I dragged home!

The first sale I hit on Thursday didn't too promising, but it turned out to be more interesting than I thought it would be. This is a mid '30s four tube, which looks surprisingly good on the inside. And still has the original cord and plug.


The four tools to the left were from that same sale, and are a Proto 8oz pein, Bell System D snips which have interesting crimping ends, some sort of wire or sheet metal gauge, and a Snap-on 4c. Along with the radio $19.

On the right side of the pic are six wrenches I picked up at a fairly interesting sale on Friday, Which had several model A's, a vintage firetruck and cabin cruiser, lots of antiques and baby clothes, some vintage rowboat motors, but not too much tools. A lot of the house was blocked off, so I got the feeling that it wasn't so much an estate sale but a downsizing sale. Which is OK, but what was there was interesting enough that I would have loved to see what else was around. But the wrenches are Plomb flare, Vlchek, Plomb tappets, Cornwell and a Challenger. I also picked up a couple books


All of that cost me $7.50. But, as I was getting ready to leave I looked through the free pile off to the side and found what looked like a project Morris chair, complete! So, double checking that it was indeed free, I quickly put that in the back of the truck.


It needs cleaning and refinishing, a few small repairs such as replacing a dowl, and I would need to build a drop-in base for the jute weaving, but not something I could pass up, and I think it is my score of the week.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...but not something I could pass up, and I think it is my score of the week.

Um, yeah! And when you've finished the resto, you can put the radio with the splendiferous dials right next to it and sit back and listen to Radio Free America during the waning twilight years of your retirement, after the apocalypse.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I had a good day at the flea market - without leaving the house!

Yesterday I picked up my mother (94), who is going to be staying with us indefinitely (brother, 68, who has been taking care of her as a live-in, going through a rough patch, including an ugly 'gray divorce', involving a new GF...). She's all settled in, but I didn't want her to wake up in a new house momentarily disoriented without me here. Anyway, while cleaning the 'maid's stairway' in the kitchen (I don't have a maid, it's just an old house, and my mom is well beyond taking stairs, they were just embarrassingly unsightly even for a 60-year-old son to have his 94-year-old mother see! HAHA), I found a Singer "S" wrench that I found a few years ago (Lugz 20xx_??) and never cleaned or reported!

Pic 2 with the rest of the collection.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

After cleaning the hand-held mold I found yesterday, it turned out to be a “COLT’S PATENT” model, for a Civil War era black powder revolver pistol. I’d have to take some measurements to figure out what caliber. Guessing .44, maybe .31. It will cast both a round ball and a conical bullet at the same time. The cavities are in great condition. The hinged lid/sprue cutter move perfectly. These are not super rare, but not super common either. In excellent condition, with the legs (or handles) still coated in brass, they can fetch some decent pocket cash. One in this kind of condition (the black crud is the residue of rust I removed), probably not.

 

[Old Radar]

...some vintage rowboat motors...

You mean oars???

 

[LesserSon]

That’s interesting, Lugz. “Colt’s Patent” I think refers to the revolver (1851 Navy .36 or do you think 1860 Colt Army .44?), not the mold or conical projectile thus formed (like “Minie’s Patent” would), yes? I’m not really knowledgeable about blackpowder pistols - I didn’t know that model shot conical rounds. The traditional blackpowder guys I know are into longrifles and roundballs.

I admire the Colt Navy for looks, but if I had to choose, I’d pick the 1858 Remington New Army for the more ridgid frame.
Just thinking about it, I start to hear Morricone’s Il Triello. I know Clint wins that with a Navy, but I think that’s meant more as a result of the character’s preternatural skill (and buono-ness) than a comparison of the performance of the two featured pistols.

 

[LesserSon]

You mean oars???

Maybe small outboard motors is what he meant...

 

[Smokeshow69]

The rains have hit, as of this AM, but at the end of the week I was able to get out and hit a few sales. Not a very promising weekend when I first started looking, but things have picked up. And here is what I dragged home!

The first sale I hit on Thursday didn't too promising, but it turned out to be more interesting than I thought it would be. This is a mid '30s four tube, which looks surprisingly good on the inside. And still has the original cord and plug.



The four tools to the left were from that same sale, and are a Proto 8oz pein, Bell System D snips which have interesting crimping ends, some sort of wire or sheet metal gauge, and a Snap-on 4c. Along with the radio $19.



On the right side of the pic are six wrenches I picked up at a fairly interesting sale on Friday, Which had several model A's, a vintage firetruck and cabin cruiser, lots of antiques and baby clothes, some vintage rowboat motors, but not too much tools. A lot of the house was blocked off, so I got the feeling that it wasn't so much an estate sale but a downsizing sale. Which is OK, but what was there was interesting enough that I would have loved to see what else was around. But the wrenches are Plomb flare, Vlchek, Plomb tappets, Cornwell and a Challenger. I also picked up a couple books



All of that cost me $7.50. But, as I was getting ready to leave I looked through the free pile off to the side and found what looked like a project Morris chair, complete! So, double checking that it was indeed free, I quickly put that in the back of the truck.





It needs cleaning and refinishing, a few small repairs such as replacing a dowl, and I would need to build a drop-in base for the jute weaving, but not something I could pass up, and I think it is my score of the week.

Dude! That radio and the plomb flare wrench are scores but then you got that chair for free? You ****!


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[bmwrd0]

You mean oars???

Rowboat motor was the term used before outboard became common. I always found it to be delightfully whimsical.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That’s interesting, Lugz. “Colt’s Patent” I think refers to the revolver (1851 Navy .36 or do you think 1860 Colt Army .44?), not the mold or conical projectile thus formed (like “Minie’s Patent” would), yes?

Probably. As in made for Colt's patent black powder revolvers. I'll have to ask a Dragoon.

 

[Levaughn]

I picked up these non chrome half inch drive sockets at an Estate Sale today for about $2. It's stamped made in USA but has no makers name. It appears to be two different sets. The sockets on the left side are the 12 points. They go from 5/16 - 1 & 1/16. The odd sizes included in the 12 point set are 19/32 and 21/32. The eight point set goes from 5/16 - 5/8. The 1/2 inch socket is missing from both sets.

 

[bjt0055]

Don't usually hit garage sales. Been looking for a vintage jerry can, the locking lid is a nice feature. No rust inside, might even use it. $10 was more than I want to spend but it's in nice shape.

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[ChefRex]

Lugz,
If you decide to sell the partial Williams set, it will probably pay for your entire haul.
There was one garage sale listed in the Tahoe area Craigslist and it said lots of tools so my neighbor and I hit it early. It was obvious that the seller just wanted to move stuff because prices were practically give away. Here is what I brought home. The majority of the sockets are somewhat rusty Challenger by Proto and regular Proto. The large DOEs are two Armstrongs and a Whitman and Barnes. The last picture is for bmwrd0.
-Don

I wish my RD looked that good, need to do a oil pump removal and rejet as I have had no luck rebuilding it and remaining bubble free.
It's on the list.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Don't usually hit garage sales. Been looking for a vintage jerry can, the locking lid is a nice feature. No rust inside, might even use it. $10 was more than I want to spend but it's in nice shape.

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Hello! Nice find! Did you check the gauge of the metal before you purchased? That is a deciding factor for the discerning collect!


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[Provincial]

Beemer, you **** for this week.

Smokeshow, don't troll the newbie, that "discussion" was long enough ago that he probably hasn't seen it! And wouldn't know where to look, either.

 

[bjt0055]

Hello! Nice find! Did you check the gauge of the metal before you purchased? That is a deciding factor for the discerning collect!


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Nah. It was not rusty inside so that was good enough for me. I'm not really a collector anyways

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[BlueBomber]

Taking a truck and trailer load home from the family farm after helping Mom move into a smaller place down the road. I left a lot of stuff behind, but couldn't bring myself to abandon some of the treasures from 31 years of accumulation from my Dad's shops and outbuildings. Price was free for everything, but some of it I took on consignment to sell for Mom up in Boston, where I'll get better prices, I hope, than she would down in VA.

There's too much here for the usual detailed report, but I'll try to post some interesting highlights when I unpack tomorrow.

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[Smokeshow69]

Beemer, you **** for this week.



Smokeshow, don't troll the newbie, that "discussion" was long enough ago that he probably hasn't seen it! And wouldn't know where to look, either.

Things are slowing down so I had to troll a little bit[emoji23] besides, in 2 years he will be able to troll another newbie about the nuances of wood working vise mounting and proper backing materials [emoji23].

Speaking of slowing down- my wife and I have been looking for a nice antique side board/ buffet. We were finding a lot of newer overpriced junk or antique ones that “Etsy flippers “ had painted gross color schemes and wanted $400 for. This one was on my local Craigslist for $125 and I got it for $100! It is in good shape. The upper drawer handles are not original but I can replace with some nice vintage or reproduction ones. It has already been decorated and filled by swmbo [emoji23]



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[RTM]

Here is my score for the weekend. A handful from a sale I had to drive 30 minutes to get to, then sit in weekend tourists' traffic on the way home, the SawZAll was just across the highway. The SawZAll motor runs, but the chuck doesn't move. And the top of the blow molded case is pretty banged up. But its the Super Orbital with 1-1/4" stroke, so a step up from my others. But it was cheap enough to gamble on repair parts, will open it up in a night or three, see what is broken.

In the handful of things, the item that got me in the truck was the two NIB Workmate Grip Mates. I got there a few minutes early, and had to sort of lean in to grab that from underneath a guy who was being a real jerk, trying to negotiate a bigger than paper ream box on NIB drill bits, hole saws, arbors etc down to $40. The seller was having none of it. I just stepped away 'til he was done and left, paying $45 for a very small pile of stuff. When I started looking through the box, it was obviously worth well north of $100, lots of Greenlee bits, hole saws, arbors etc. I pulled a few items out.

I got a reasonable price on my stuff, would have paid her marked price, but she knocked about 25% off. There is a IOB Diamond nipper, assuming tile nipper based on the jaws not closing to zero, some Hilti long Phillips bits, 2 different Makita mini saw blades, and a Bessey edge clamp. Torx bits an arbor drill for hole saws, and a pair of workmate swivel dogs, unfortunately the newer orange in stead of vintage black, and the pair of Workmate Gripmates that got me in the truck.

 

[LesserSon]

I picked up these...made in USA...no makers name. It appears to be two different sets.

Post a few close ups. Those are pretty generic forms, and most of the 1st-half-of-the-20th-century manufacturers made something like them. Some in your pic look like they may have knurled bands and others don’t.
SK will have a small dot or dash on each side of the fractional size stamp. Indestro will have stars, Duro trapezoids. Others have a distinctive arrangement of the “Made In USA” stamp, or of the fractional stamp. If they lack all these features, you may never know.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I made a stop in at my favorite habitat for humanity today! Nothing earth shattering but did get a few things. Got some trim nails to replace the ones my son has used, got a huge box of small nails for him. He is 7 and loves to come into the garage and pound nails into wood so he has been using all my nails[emoji23] I bought this whole box for $2.50. If pounding nails is what gets him interested in working with his hands I am all for it! At his age is when I started out building air planes and rubber band guns out of small pieces of wood. I also got these heritage era nut drivers as well... I don’t really use nut drivers but since they are the early style I bought them for the collection! 1/4 and 3/16... now I have to find the rest[emoji15]





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