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[Oregon rock crusher]

Hi Ed: I got it in Portland before the guy listed it for sale. You probably would have beat me to it otherwise.
There was one of these in the machine shop at the mill where I worked. I looked for one for probably 25 years with no luck. The only other ones I found were back east.
Should I put your name on it for when it comes up for sale someday?
I sent you an email.

There is quite a bit of info on the OWWM site crguy but I'm sure you've already found it. I'll add a couple pics I stole from there. There are probably a couple others examples in the area after checking out the OWWM pics but certainly not easy to find. That speed plate on these drills is a super nice feature for the time period and reversible for metric! If you ever get tired of it you would definitely have a ready buyer here.... Ed.

On edit the speed range palacard doesn't flip over. RPM is RPM. It is the spindle travel indicator that has both scales....Speed reading and thought I saw something that wasn't there.

 

[Outlawmws]

That is just funky as all get out! Nice score CRG!

 

[Provincial]

Nice DP crguy! I like the table adjuster, too.

One drawback of rubber tire drives is that you have to remember to back off on the contact pressure of the tires when it is not being used, otherwise the tires eventually "flat-spot" and make a thumping sound in operation.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

Nice DP's Adrian,

Which model is that camel back DP, that looks awesome, in great condition and I like the auto downfeed option; how do you like it? And did you ever get the leather belts for it?


Here's a Craftsman Mohawk that I use to have, sold it to a friend. Made in 1942 only for one year. I called it the Marque. The front art deco badge reminded of the fronts of old classic movie theaters.

The DP was almost solid black in color when I got it but after cleaning it up I decided to keep the original paint and not repaint, it was just good enough to keep; the blue color was really deep in person. The two milled table surfaces were in great condition.
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Ditto on the maker of the camelback.. ?? Could it be a Sibley? That's one of my hometown favorites....

 

[JoCoSawdust]

This machine appears in the 32 Sears catalog as a Walker Turner brand (DP 101). In 1933, it was re-badged Companion. Until recently, this machine was in service for a small company that produces plastic bags. A new foreman popped a cork when he saw it being used in the shop and ordered that it disappear immediately. I'll need to reverse the direction of the motor so the belt can be routed properly.

 

[Smokeshow69]

This machine appears in the 32 Sears catalog as a Walker Turner brand (DP 101). In 1933, it was re-badged Companion. Until recently, this machine was in service for a small company that produces plastic bags. A new foreman popped a cork when he saw it being used in the shop and ordered that it disappear immediately. I'll need to reverse the direction of the motor so the belt can be routed properly.

So Cool! I love that it was in use until recently... i think this helped to keep it preserved for you! And I think you should buy that foreman a beer or something for helping your collection

 

[Outlawmws]

Whats truly amazing is there is barely a hind of an Arc of shame...

Great Score JoCo!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Thanks Outlaw. That orange and white stripe probably contributed to the fact there's no arc of shame on the table! Only one bit strike on the table. Tomorrow I'll tackle trying to reverse that motor so I can get the figure 8 out of the belt. The motor is period-correct so I'm assuming it's probably been ran with the belt screwed up the entire time.

 

[y'sguy]

JoCo, Very cool find!
IMHO it seems like you would just want to reset the belt rather than reverse the motor? Looks to me that its just wrapped incorrectly. I'm not worried though I know you can figure it out and will have fun trying.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

The motor was running clockwise, which caused the spindle to rotate the wrong direction if the belt was routed properly. I swapped the start and run wires (to get the motor to run counter clockwise), put a new cord on it, routed the belt correctly and it runs like a charm now. Needs a new belt but the major battle is over.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Whats truly amazing is there is barely a hind of an Arc of shame...

Great Score JoCo!

"Arc of honest mistakes"...

 

[crguy]

"Arc of honest mistakes"...

It was correct when it was "arc of shame". No excuses.

 

[RBarnes]

Just picked up this fairly obscure friction drive drill press made by the Albany Hardware Specialities Mfg. Co., 1908 patent on the unique variable speed drive. drive.

Has anyone else seen one of these? I'd like to compare notes with other owners.

Really enjoyed seeing and learning about this drill press. Thank you for posting it! Would be interesting to know how well the friction plates work when one is in use.

 

[crguy]

Really enjoyed seeing and learning about this drill press. Thank you for posting it! Would be interesting to know how well the friction plates work when one is in use.

From the number of drill marks on the table, this one has seen a lot of use so it must have worked well.
It appears to have been in some sort of industrial setting as it had a non original, but well made, guard over the drive belt and guards around the sphere.

There was one of these being used regularly in a local machine shop as recently as 20 years ago that I was aware of. That one had always impressed me and inspired me to find another. It just took quite a while for me to find this one.

 

[czeglin]

Sears Roebuck model 101.03682
Appears to be actually manufactured by Atlas.

EDIT: Found it eventually on VM (here), via via this page on GJ

I’ve got my “new” drill mounted on a leveling base that’s up to my wonky basement floor




My next issue is a missing part. Any idea where to get a replacement 60-42 bent handle? This should have 4 of them including the table lift but one is missing. I found a comparable steel nut on MMC and thankfully the collars are all present.

It came with a brand new 1/4hp motor with 1/2in shaft. Spindle spline is 5/8 across the points. What’s the largest I can safely use? I have a spare 1hp that would probably tip it over backwards and otherwise be a poor idea. Motor mounting plate has 42-50 stamped in the casting.

Lastly, the table wobbles (pivots on its mounting axis). Can anyone here point me in the right direction to troubleshoot that? There’s some sort of pin on the underside of it that pulls in and out but doesn’t change anything.




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[firebirdparts]

Whats truly amazing is there is barely a hind of an Arc of shame...

Great Score JoCo!

On a nearly 100 year old machine. Just amazing.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

It was correct when it was "arc of shame". No excuses.

My former machine trades teacher and a good friend once said (paraphrased)... looks like a student used that drill press....

 

[Outlawmws]

Expletives deleted?

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

Expletives deleted?

No.. I only saw him get mad once .. in class when we were horsing around. Face turned red, got a bit louder than normal, and told us to get into the classroom where a good old fashion (and polite) *** chewing happened... Didnt have to worry about that again.

 

[damon18]

Can anyone tell what this one is? For sale locally but I couldn't find any manufacture badges or markings at all.

The lamp isn't original, looks kludged on by the owner.

It's a benchtop model, maybe 40 inches tall, forgot to measure.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Looks like a Walker Turner SD80 to me, hence the green paint (probably original to the machine). This is a Craftsman-branded one offered in the Sears catalog in 1934. Prior to that, Sears sold them wearing the Walker Turner name.

 

[damon18]

Looks like a Walker Turner SD80 to me, hence the green paint (probably original to the machine). This is a Craftsman-branded one offered in the Sears catalog in 1934. Prior to that, Sears sold them wearing the Walker Turner name.

Thanks, I figured there must be a belt cover that was missing. Is that something that can be sourced?

Looks like it would take some work to make it look like your picture. Are these considered desirable to use or collect? Could probably get it cheap if it's worth restoring.

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[JoCoSawdust]

I really like this machine. This is part of a collection so I didn't refurbish it as a daily user but I do like using it from time to time. I have 3 WT DPs from this era and the SD80 is my favorite of them by leaps and bounds. It's a light duty machine at best, I certainly wouldn't want this as the only DP in my shop but there's something very satisfying about drilling a hole with something that's older than my 82 year old Dad. I actually use this from time to time just for the hell of it.

I'd say finding the pulley cover is a long shot. I put mine together from two machines. The machine you pictured is missing the pulley cover and has a serious arc of shame going on with the work surface. Neither would effect the operation of the machine for day to day use. Be aware there's a bearing in that front pulley that's proprietary (to my knowledge) to Walker Turners. I don't think you can find a replacement for it. I was lucky and had one decent bearing between my two donor machines so I just cleaned and repacked it.

The first one of these I picked up looked about like the one in your picture. I got it dirt cheap and squirreled it away until I found another from which I could cobble together a complete machine. Getting that one pictured, or not, is your call. It is a cool little piece of history.

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Did a partial refurbishment on the Delta 220 paint was decent so just cleaned it up got the rust off and shot the painted parts with a clear coat.

 

[Outlawmws]

Nice!

 

[damon18]

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The first one of these I picked up looked about like the one in your picture. I got it dirt cheap and squirreled it away until I found another from which I could cobble together a complete machine. Getting that one pictured, or not, is your call. It is a cool little piece of history.

Thanks very much for the info, I'll know what I'm looking at next time. I'll pass on this one since I already have two drill press "projects" waiting attention. (Craftsman 150 and Dunlap bench top)

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Did a partial refurbishment on the Delta 220 paint was decent so just cleaned it up got the rust off and shot the painter parts with clear.

That turned out looking great. The clear coat really brought out the original color.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Thanks very much for the info, I'll know what I'm looking at next time. I'll pass on this one since I already have two drill press "projects" waiting attention. (Craftsman 150 and Dunlap bench top)

If I was you I would send the seller an offer explaining it is a parts machine at best...Maybe offer $40 and have that be the standing offer ? This machine may be able to help save a few other machines in need of parts ? I think you could recoupe your cost for sure!

 

[Smokeshow69]

That turned out looking great. The clear coat really brought out the original color.

I agree. That clear really did wonders for the original paint. Plus it has stopped any future rust from occurring.

 

[Davefr]

That turned out looking great. The clear coat really brought out the original color.

I agree, it brought out the color and preserved the original patina. I'll have to remember to try this some time. It really looks nice.

 

[2stroke1971]

I have a craftsman King Seeley drill press that I bought a couple years ago and fixed up, and I just found another one nearby for cheap so I bought that one. The base is a little different, its wider, but the front edge is shorter than the drilling platform. On my first one, the base matches the platform in size.
My original one has an id tag near the base, and it dates to 1947. my new one doesnt have a tag, I suspect it is just a bit newer. The seller thought 1950s.

The new one also came with a table, I think it might have come with it, or at least it dates to the same era...the cast iron base of the table is HEAVY. the table legs look suspiciously like the drill press' pole. I unbolted it from the table for now, not sure I will use the table, its seems like it may tip over....meant to be bolted to the floor perhaps.
Anyway Ive just started to tear the new to me press down. I has all three original handles, something my other one did not. Also the pulley is in better shape.

heres my latest drill press


Heres the table







Heres my other one which I use all the time:



I had since made some handles for it, added a light etc.

 

[HVACR1]

Hope the pics show. I didn't take pics before I dissembled the DP! I've cleaned the column. removed the headstock guts, ordered bearings and am looking forward to the clean-up process and refurb. I got the DP and a 10" Craftsman TS both circa 1964 at the same time from a customer (HVAC field) who hadn't used them in 15 years. Having trouble figuring out how to remove the Jacobs chuck from the threaded thrust collar. The spindle and quill are out and I want to replace the brgs, gotta get the chuck of first. I has a bit of a wobble which is fine if you want elongated holes, LOL. Any advice about the chuck removal?
Thanks.

 

[2stroke1971]

Hope the pics show. I didn't take pics before I dissembled the DP! I've cleaned the column. removed the headstock guts, ordered bearings and am looking forward to the clean-up process and refurb. I got the DP and a 10" Craftsman TS both circa 1964 at the same time from a customer (HVAC field) who hadn't used them in 15 years. Having trouble figuring out how to remove the Jacobs chuck from the threaded thrust collar. The spindle and quill are out and I want to replace the brgs, gotta get the chuck of first. I has a bit of a wobble which is fine if you want elongated holes, LOL. Any advice about the chuck removal?
Thanks.

I fixed the pics.....
My first one has the Jacobs 6A with the taper...the one I just bought has the jacobs with the threads...I havent tried to get it apart yet, but here is a good write up. Get some PB blaster ready

http://crawlsbackward.blogspot.com/2018/05/removing-threaded-jacobs-chuck.html

 

[HVACR1]

2Stroke1971, thanks for both the pics fix and the tutorial. My chuck is slightly diff even though it is a 633C. I thought I would post pics here in the event it might help someone else. I don't know why procedure in the link you sent wouldn't work, so I am going to give it a go. Clever idea! Thanks, I'll let u know if it worked.

 

[Provincial]

When you unscrew the collar, it will back off until it comes up against the base of the chuck. If you continue to unscrew it, it will apply pressure to press the chuck off the tapered shaft. A clever idea!

 

[HVACR1]

Provincial, thank you. I read a para about that in the Operating Instructions but didn't know what the "chuck holding collar" was. I didn't understand if it was the piece directly above the chuck or if it was the threaded thrust fitting until now. A very clever idea indeed.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Provincial, thank you. I read a para about that in the Operating Instructions but didn't know what the "chuck holding collar" was. I didn't understand if it was the piece directly above the chuck or if it was the threaded thrust fitting until now. A very clever idea indeed.

Hello and Welcome! Your table that came with your new press if for a craftsman jointer... a nice table but definitely a bit tippy. I wouldnt use it without stabilizing it for sure! In terms of the drill press foot... I am thinking that is perhaps actually older than the drill press ?? Perhaps made by atlas ? I can assure you it isnt original to the press. I would strongly recommend you check out the "craftsman drill press thread" started by user Franklee... it is dedicated mostly to this style of 80/100/150 model drill presses made by King Seeley/Emerson... You will find alot of great answers/stickies on the very first page.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227480&page=223

 

[HVACR1]

Smokeshow69, thanks but I think you have me confused with someone else. I did not show any pics of the table or foot. I have been reading the Craftsman Drill Press Thread, I think I am up to page 48! Lots of good reading and experience here. The last thing I refurbished was a 1953 F100 Pick-up and that was in 1977. i feel newer than a kindergartener who showed up early for the first day of class. Maybe I can help someone here at some point, perhaps on the HVAC thread until I get my feet wet up to my knees with tool refurbs.

 

[Dennis Leigh Henry]

Thanks, I figured there must be a belt cover that was missing. Is that something that can be sourced?

Looks like it would take some work to make it look like your picture. Are these considered desirable to use or collect? Could probably get it cheap if it's worth restoring.

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That table looks amazing...

All.. how do you deal with resolving the arc of shame? I've heard of people drilling and fitting new cast iron plugs in a Bridgeport table.. etc.. but nothing on a drill press with relatively thin castings. Curious what has worked ...

 

[Outlawmws]

Dennis I think the most common fix is a new top plate.

Also seen them filled, some tapped and a threaded plug, some with JB weld. (not a good color match)