650’ pull

[wyliesdiesels]

Just curious...

Say we are starting with a gate located 650ft (or more) from the residence (and power source), but nothing has been done. No conduit, nothing installed yet.
What would be the recommended solution from the experts? I just recently visited a residence where the outer gate was easily a half-mile from the dwelling, with no adjacent structures/improvements/poco lines close by. As I punched in the gate code I was wondering how in the heck would they get power out here?

a good suggestion has already been made. DC gate opener ran on batteries, with a charger that operates on a trickle charge and/or solar.... The batteries are the primary supply so no huge in-rush on the AC line. The AC line only powers the charger and solar can supplement the AC feed.

 

[kbuhagiar]

a good suggestion has already been made. DC gate opener ran on batteries, with a charger that operates on a trickle charge and/or solar.... The batteries are the primary supply so no huge in-rush on the AC line. The AC line only powers the charger and solar can supplement the AC feed.

So it would still require running an AC feed a great distance from the dwelling?

 

[mike93lx]

So it would still require running an AC feed a great distance from the dwelling?

AC would not be needed with the right battery and solar setup

 

[larry4406]

So it would still require running an AC feed a great distance from the dwelling?

a charger that operates on a trickle charge and/or solar....

 

[The Cobbler]

where did the OP go?

OP hs not logged in since last post. Hope all is good on their end.
Unfortunately sometimes people see fun in just trolling the board. seen it many times . there's a few other threads on here that I'm wondering about too .

 

[PCustoms]

Unfortunately sometimes people see fun in just trolling the board. seen it many times . there's a few other threads on here that I'm wondering about too .

This could be fun....

Let us at 'em!

 

[kaffine]

Just curious...

Say we are starting with a gate located 650ft (or more) from the residence (and power source), but nothing has been done. No conduit, nothing installed yet.
What would be the recommended solution from the experts? I just recently visited a residence where the outer gate was easily a half-mile from the dwelling, with no adjacent structures/improvements/poco lines close by. As I punched in the gate code I was wondering how in the heck would they get power out here?

Depends on what all I want out at the gate. If I just want a gate opener then I'm going with a solar panel and batteries.

If I want a camera and intercom to the gate and or other security sensors ect, then I'm more likely to trench and pull power from the house. Also depends on if I have to trench water/sewer/gas from the street anyways. It is still possible with solar and batteries and a microwave link for the data.

My driveway is 180feet but it is ~500 from the street to the house. I had to replace the water line so when I had the trench open I put two conduit runs 2.5" because I got a good deal on it. I will put a security camera and driveway sensor in at some point.

 

[Noltz]

Depends on what all I want out at the gate. If I just want a gate opener then I'm going with a solar panel and batteries.
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My driveway is 180feet but it is ~500 from the street to the house. I had to replace the water line so when I had the trench open I put two conduit runs 2.5" because I got a good deal on it. I will put a security camera and driveway sensor in at some point.

@ 500' you could run a 2A load with 12 AWG. I'm still curious if anyone knows what the receptical rules are when the circuit is not rated for 15A. Can I just put a duplex outlet with a label on it "2A MAX" like they do for light fixture wattage ratings.?

 

[fitter30]

Go to voltage drop calculator 3% drop is max https://www.inchcalculator.com/voltage-drop-calculator/

 

[Bert_]

Go to voltage drop calculator 3% drop is max https://www.inchcalculator.com/voltage-drop-calculator/

No, 3% is a value suggested in the code book.

Some things are affected by voltage drop more than others so I do not consider it a hard rule

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Go to voltage drop calculator 3% drop is SUGGESTED https://www.inchcalculator.com/voltage-drop-calculator/

fixed it for ya


3% for feeders, 5% for branch circuits

 

[fitter30]

fixed it for ya


3% for feeders, 5% for branch circuits

I'm looking at a inductive load. Better larger wire than smaller. First post 650' or more.