wbarnes1001
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Bones, I really like your restoration on the Fulton too! There is something addictive to working on raw iron and steel.
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redragoon
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I may be confused, but is the slide installed backwards in these pictures? I would expect the outer L slot to allow it to extend or turn upwards. In this picture, it looks like it would swing down at the back of travel.
KMScott
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Thanks, take your time. Appreciate all info I get from vise collectors.
CRSINMICH
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I am trying to do a FACTUAL count of all the railroad style vise stands out there. If you have a modern color image/photo of one that is an OLD vintage one, please send a photo to me at [email protected]. I would also enjoy knowing any history on the stand that you wish to share. Trying to be as accurate as possible, so especially appreciate a before and after photo if you repainted one etc. Also appreciate a photo of the cast numbers of the side if you happen to also have that.
If you request, I will keep your photo(s) to myself, but just telling me you have one is not a fact that I can verify for this count - I need visual hard evidence. So far I have photos of 11 of them that are different ones. NOT the new re cast ones, but the old vintage ones. Curious to see how many are out there.
I will keep this board updated on the number.
Russell
If you request, I will keep your photo(s) to myself, but just telling me you have one is not a fact that I can verify for this count - I need visual hard evidence. So far I have photos of 11 of them that are different ones. NOT the new re cast ones, but the old vintage ones. Curious to see how many are out there.
I will keep this board updated on the number.
Russell
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LT95
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This 4.25” jaw Wilton now rides on the back of my service truck. When I got it the main nut was worn through and required some modification. Not exciting, but it works
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ncgun99
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I look forward to seeing what comes up on these bases. I really like the big old stuff.
RTM
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With plenty of searchable clues, I discovered it was a late 1950's "Made in Japan" vise distributed by Wisler Western Arms, a gun supply company in San Francisco.
Hey there, remember this post. I was poking around, trying to remember the name of mine, knew I had mentioned it here. So afterwards, I decided to search for Wisler in this thread. Turns out someone had posted one earlier, but his link to the pix had died. Dang, could have saved a few years of wondering.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5767824#post5767824
Mark Stansbury
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Another vise manufacturer added to Vintage Machinery, the Varco by Abegg & Reinhold Co. This firm of Swiss-educated metallurgical engineers also made socket and other wrenches circa 1920-24. The vise was probably later, as a patent was issued in 1932.
Pics of Varco vise from Oct. 2020
Varco catalog pages from GJ turned into pdfs on International Tool Catalog Library
Pics of Varco vise from Oct. 2020
Varco catalog pages from GJ turned into pdfs on International Tool Catalog Library
Mark Stansbury
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Some updated and new links for the Float-Lock and Mity 7 vises. These were made by Float-Lock Corp., a subsidiary of American Machine & Foundry Co. (AMF), in the mid-1950s. By 1981 the vises were made by Wahlstrom Float-Lock Product Co., possibly an AMF spin-off. We have these links:
- Updated AMF article on Vintage Machinery
- Updated Wahlstrom Float-Lock Product Co. article on Vintage Machinery
- New 1955 full-page ads for the Mity 7 on International Tool Catalog Library
- Demo from 2019 of Float-Lock vise on YouTube
- 1981 Walstrom catalog/price list/parts diagrams on Vintage Machinery
Note, I found no evidence that these vises were branded DeWalt, although AMF owned DeWalt at the time.
- Updated AMF article on Vintage Machinery
- Updated Wahlstrom Float-Lock Product Co. article on Vintage Machinery
- New 1955 full-page ads for the Mity 7 on International Tool Catalog Library
- Demo from 2019 of Float-Lock vise on YouTube
- 1981 Walstrom catalog/price list/parts diagrams on Vintage Machinery
Note, I found no evidence that these vises were branded DeWalt, although AMF owned DeWalt at the time.
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Jan-Sietze
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Here are all my vises photographed:
Only a Paramo No.0 is missing, but I have no ambition to find one
The No.6 is and remains my favorite!
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1122936&stc=1&d=1618509746
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1122937&stc=1&d=1618509746
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1122938&stc=1&d=1618509746
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1122939&stc=1&d=1618509746
Only a Paramo No.0 is missing, but I have no ambition to find one
The No.6 is and remains my favorite!
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1122936&stc=1&d=1618509746
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1122937&stc=1&d=1618509746
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1122938&stc=1&d=1618509746
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1122939&stc=1&d=1618509746
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zoomieport
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I got the Wilton Toddler vises together for a group shot today. They all have 2-1/2” jaws and weigh in at 12 lbs. The clamp-on models are my favorites.
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Mark Stansbury
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Another US vise manufacturer, Harcliff Co. of Rushville, IN, added to Vintage Machinery.
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KMScott
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wbarnes1001, I remember talking to you a while back. Just to let guys know you can repair a broken foot and have it pretty close to as strong as original. I added a couple pics of a repair I did. Yes it will take some time but hand working a cast foot from a donor vise can be done and quit rewarding. This foot was repaired on a 200lb RI 544b.
I also ship a lot of vises and have found bolting a vise to a piece of particle wood or plywood then build a wooden frame around it with cheap 1-1/2 x 1-1/2 lumber or a 2x4. Request this when bidding or purchasing a nice vise, happy to share more pics of even bigger vise packing.
I also ship a lot of vises and have found bolting a vise to a piece of particle wood or plywood then build a wooden frame around it with cheap 1-1/2 x 1-1/2 lumber or a 2x4. Request this when bidding or purchasing a nice vise, happy to share more pics of even bigger vise packing.
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mikeswrenches
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The patent no. for the float-lock is 2,552,580 in case you don’t have it.
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Outlawmws
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I picked up this vise several years ago, not knowing anything about it's origin. I was just sure that it was a very early (1900's) rare double-swivel vise that I needed in my collection. It seemed to be a quality vise and the only mfg. clue was the stamping on the back plate.
With plenty of searchable clues, I discovered it was a late 1950's "Made in Japan" vise distributed by Wisler Western Arms, a gun supply company in San Francisco.
Well, turns out, it's a pretty good electronics soldering vise and with the sky rocketing price of "baby" Wilton's on a Powrarm, it seemed like a good idea to retire mine to a display shelf.
I have 2 of the "suction cup base" version; also made in Japan, and had one when I was a kid given to me by my parents for Xmas for my model building... I'd like to find a clamp on...
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You sure do nice work KMS! Do you miss your jaw making days yet?
My current project: A Parker 49x. It came without a handle. Not surprisingly it had a spot in the thread, about as long as the nut, that was binding pretty tight, where I'm assuming some heavy hammering did it's dirty work. The thread showed some flattened spots in this section. I tried to clean up the thread and it is not perfect but much improved. Any advise on how to smooth out the action at this damaged stretch of thread will be much appreciated!
Now it needs a handle!
Before and after clean up:
Now it needs a handle!
Before and after clean up:
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Mark Stansbury
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Baker USA vise mystery solved (probably). The clue is in this 1950 ad for the Baker bench vise and Stiletto push drill. Stiletto is a well-known brand of Baker, Hamilton & Pacific Co. which means this store carried their stock. So, Baker must have been their second-quality line of the era. I don't have any catalogs of the era to confirm, though. I have edited their Vintage Machinery article to include this ad and another 1958 one that includes a Baker 1/4" drill. Ads are from Newspapers.com.
Baker USA post
Baker USA post
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Mark Stansbury
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1950 article on Dodge Manufacturing Co. vise; pdf is on Vintage Machinery.
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KMScott
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Not really but I will mention that I am sad to see over 50% of the jaws out of stock. I will be going back to the shop in Colorado next month and try to show them again how to work efficient.
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I posted this over on the garage sale thread also. Here's my latest vise finds, C-2 wilton & 2" baby bullet from the same seller. Both vises are in good shape, the clamp for the power arm has been brazed back together.
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Probably sold already, but this old craftsman looks mint. Im no collector and already have more vises than incan use. Passing on the find https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/...e\":0,\"commerce_channel\":503,\"value\":0}"}
It looks like you had a great day for sure. That baby bullet looks like it has quite a bit of the original paint. Is that the big or the small PowerArm clamp? It looks like the smaller size, if it is it will have a 347J stamped on the inside. That C2 is in beautiful condition, I’ll guess 6/72 on the keyway stamp.
It does appear to be original paint, I am going to try and lightly clean it up. I can't make out the number on the inside of the clamp, because of the repair. I think the C-2 was stamped 78 on the keyway.
I look forward to seeing the finished pics on that baby bullet. 78 seems a bit late for a C2 with an exterior mounted front collar. I found one of the bigger powerarm clamps that fit the 301 & 311 size. I had seen them in catalogs but didn’t realize how big they were.
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drivesitfar
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Bones: you posted your Fulton 19 the other day and it looked very familiar so I took a look to see why the one I have had removable jaws that were missing. well mine is a L. M. & V which I thought was a company Fulton worked for before he started Fulton. since my vise does have removable jaws now i'm wondering if Fulton moved to or sold to L. M. & V.?
I own another maybe one or two L. M. & V.'s and several Fulton vises and the L. M. V. vises are the only ones I recall that have the screw set sleeve at the back holding the dynamic jaw onto it.
Smitty: I was lucky enough to find a baby bullet with a power arm and it's Wilton separate clamp years ago and it's one of my favorite vises i use quite a bit. nice collection of small baby bullets and in the background the baby Prentiss vises are nice too.
I own another maybe one or two L. M. & V.'s and several Fulton vises and the L. M. V. vises are the only ones I recall that have the screw set sleeve at the back holding the dynamic jaw onto it.
Smitty: I was lucky enough to find a baby bullet with a power arm and it's Wilton separate clamp years ago and it's one of my favorite vises i use quite a bit. nice collection of small baby bullets and in the background the baby Prentiss vises are nice too.
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Mark Stansbury
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Just discovered that E. E. Hanna made vises c. 1903.
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Mark Stansbury
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I have added these US vise manufacturers to Vintage Machinery. They are on the vise spreadsheet with one example of each.
John J. Moore
Peoria Steel & Tool Co.
John J. Moore
Peoria Steel & Tool Co.
Mark Stansbury
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Who made the metal patternmakers vise (circled)? I was looking for the Hanna vise when I found it.
Link to catalog Archive.org
Link to catalog Archive.org
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Mark Stansbury
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Here's a 1918 catalog with all the Fulton Machine & Vise Co. Star vises listed.
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akasrick
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Assigned to Emmert
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=00728858&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO1%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsrchnum.htm%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526s1%3D0728858.PN.%2526OS%3DPN%2F0728858%2526RS%3DPN%2F0728858&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=NONE&Input=View+first+page
From: http://mprime.com/Emmert/index.htm
A few examples on the spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sHFRfY_DFXMz6bFeeYI7UKRpUd3aheAE86KBQRBGb9s/edit#gid=666157805
akasrick
Drives: thanks, I like collecting smaller vises at this point. Prentiss vises are my favorites but Reeds and Wilton’s are right behind them. Your baby bullet with the raised anvil looks like it’s in awesome condition. Your vise, power arm and clamp make a great combo.
Speaking of Fulton star vises I have this rarely seen 6”no.58, it’s a beast.
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