Sam'sAutoParts
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Neither had I, it was closed on the sellers table, so it was a surprise when I opened it.
2016 Garage Sale Thread
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Neither had I, it was closed on the sellers table, so it was a surprise when I opened it.
Private Lugnutz
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Outlaw,
Thanks for the pics. I'm thinking the gaffs on the climbers in the figure in the manual I posted, the museum pics in the links I posted, and my recently found examples all look the same. I don't know if they'd be identified as tree gaffs or pole gaffs, but they all look the same. None of those (manual, museum, mine) are as widely spaced from the climber shank as the tree gaffs in your pic 1. But they're considerably longer than the pole gaffs in your pic 2.
Thanks for the pics. I'm thinking the gaffs on the climbers in the figure in the manual I posted, the museum pics in the links I posted, and my recently found examples all look the same. I don't know if they'd be identified as tree gaffs or pole gaffs, but they all look the same. None of those (manual, museum, mine) are as widely spaced from the climber shank as the tree gaffs in your pic 1. But they're considerably longer than the pole gaffs in your pic 2.
BlueBomber
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Nice job, rp! The Snappy alone bring $25 on the 'Bay all day long--well done!
Private Lugnutz
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joe.striper
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Good scores Joe, the Lufkin machinist square is real nice.
RedVise
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Outlawmws
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Joe you look to have two Colton patent vises in that pile! Well done!
Youngguns
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What are the two hammers on the right? Also, Mr. Viseman, no good shot of that blue vise?
joe.striper
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Jakey, i knew youd see that. Yeah it is f'in loud...holy **** it is loud. The 8 year old in me bought it.
Younguns, one hammer is US made and it is beryllium. The two big ones are brass, Chinese I think, but at $5 each I'm not complaining. I'll take better shots of the vises tomorrow. I pd $3 or 4 bucks each for those....
Younguns, one hammer is US made and it is beryllium. The two big ones are brass, Chinese I think, but at $5 each I'm not complaining. I'll take better shots of the vises tomorrow. I pd $3 or 4 bucks each for those....
Outlawmws
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Joe... you have a little jewelers anvil hiding in the vises, don't you... 
crackit
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Lug, what did you use to clean those climbers?
drivesitfar
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Joe: yep cool stuff for certain. i think Outlaw is mentioning the little Jeweler's or salesman sample anvil and is it brass or do tell? also you might already know this, but DON'T GRIND THE BERLINIUM HAMMER BECAUSE THE DUST IS TOXIC. i don't see why you would but just in case you wanted to clean it up with a grinder please don't.
OUTLAW AND LUG: interesting pics on the different styles of spurs. i sold mine a few years ago, but only used them a few times.
OUTLAW AND LUG: interesting pics on the different styles of spurs. i sold mine a few years ago, but only used them a few times.
Private Lugnutz
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Toilet bowl cleaner.
If you try it, make sure you get the kind with 9.5% HCL. The eco-friendly brands will not work. Depending on the size of the tool and the extent of the rust, either fully immerse and flip (less than a minute will do on most old tools) or slather it on. It's thick, so it clings. For the most stubborn rust, you may need to scrub it on with a soft abrasive (scotch pad, 0000 steel wool, etc). You need to rinse very thoroughly with cold water immediately, dry it thoroughly with a shop rag immediately, and apply oil (I like WD-40) and/or wax immediately. The stripped bare steel tool will develop a very thin and dusty layer of oxidation quickly otherwise. I like to scrub again with a different set of steel wool and WD-40, wipe clean, then oil again and let it sit.
If you don't wear gloves, it will sting a little in any cuts etc on your hands, but it's not so strong (like pool cleaner, etc) that you have to worry about real burns or fumes, etc.
The first time I tried it I will admit it felt a little ignoble to use on these classic relics. I got over that right quick when I saw the results. Easily the quickest, cheapest, simplest method I have ever used, and that includes e-tanks (disassembled years ago), vinegar, molasses, and Evaporust.
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It's been a while since I checked in on this thread. You guys are killing it! 
I had a decent bit of luck at the flea on Sunday.
A couple of male/male 1/2" drive extensions
Craftsman (U) extension, BE speeder ($1 ea)
Wizard 1/4" drive breaker ($1)
SK and SnapOn sockets ($0.50 ea.)
Big Vlchek DBE 1-1/8" x 1-1/16" ($0.50)
Long handle PROTO 1/2" drive ratchet ($5)
Big PROTO L.A. DOE 1-1/8"x1" ($1)
And the big blue socket box in the background... That's all OTC (Owatonna) ($15)
I had a decent bit of luck at the flea on Sunday.
A couple of male/male 1/2" drive extensions
Craftsman (U) extension, BE speeder ($1 ea)
Wizard 1/4" drive breaker ($1)
SK and SnapOn sockets ($0.50 ea.)
Big Vlchek DBE 1-1/8" x 1-1/16" ($0.50)
Long handle PROTO 1/2" drive ratchet ($5)
Big PROTO L.A. DOE 1-1/8"x1" ($1)
And the big blue socket box in the background... That's all OTC (Owatonna) ($15)
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joe.striper
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Outlaw, younguns et al.... here are follow up pics.
I got a bit of a surprise on the small vises. One was a Craftsman and the other a Starrett Defiance. So VERY happy about that. Yes the other two are Colton patent vises. If anyone wants those I will move them out pretty cheaply. Trying to pay for my Porter Cable B10 sander I bought for vise restoration use.
The little anvil is cute isn't it?
I got a bit of a surprise on the small vises. One was a Craftsman and the other a Starrett Defiance. So VERY happy about that. Yes the other two are Colton patent vises. If anyone wants those I will move them out pretty cheaply. Trying to pay for my Porter Cable B10 sander I bought for vise restoration use.
The little anvil is cute isn't it?
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jeffmoss26
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Nice stuff!
Private Lugnutz
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Jack-fuggin'-pot, UNAIU!
The handles and extensions look to be plain steel finish. As for the sox, from here it looks as if the bases are rough finished and the walls are either plated or polished. Can you tell which? (If plated, I would not hesitate to put that set in a GMTK and call it either transitional early or late war, but I am curious.)
3baygarage
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Username over the OTC set
Joe- Nice tiny finds there.
over the OTC setJoe- Nice tiny finds there.
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Lugz, The sockets are bright chrome plated all the way down. The breaker bar isn't the same that we've seen and is also chrome plated. I'm thinking it's an immediate post war set with some wartime pieces. The ratchet is the push through type that only ratchets in one direction. As you noticed, the ratchet and the extensions are plain steel.
Thanks 3bay! I was very happy to find it.Username
Private Lugnutz
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That would be a pre-war vestige as seen in the specs in pre-war and early war manuals, before they updated it to reversible. Which means the different breaker bar could be early, too. The box looks post-war, but you could have a mixed vintage set there as you suspect. Either way, nice set.
racinfarmer
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It's been a while since I checked in on this thread. You guys are killing it!
I had a decent bit of luck at the flea on Sunday.
A couple of male/male 1/2" drive extensions
Craftsman (U) extension, BE speeder ($1 ea)
Wizard 1/4" drive breaker ($1)
SK and SnapOn sockets ($0.50 ea.)
Big Vlchek DBE 1-1/8" x 1-1/16" ($0.50)
Long handle PROTO 1/2" drive ratchet ($5)
Big PROTO L.A. DOE 1-1/8"x1" ($1)
And the big blue socket box in the background... That's all OTC (Owatonna) ($15)
I have one of those H-160 roto ratchets. Haven't used it yet, but it is neat to see another one pop up.
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joe.striper
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Picked this up today: Getstner box no door, with machinist tools, 5" starret vise, 4" reed swivel jaw, exact clamps, rr track anvil, battery charger.coolest thing, a Tesa inside micrometer.
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bulletpruf
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Nice haul, Joe! Prior owner had good taste in tools. What brand are the outside mic's?
joe.striper
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Starret and Browne and Sharp...one Polish one as well.
Private Lugnutz
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Resisting the urge to follow this up with a classic 1970's style Polish joke book joke!
Private Lugnutz
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The set of four (4) mud hook chains are marked with patent 1,879,584 (Sep 1932) and "6.00 - 6.20 - 6.50". Canvas straps are vintage OD and they have brass rivets. No mfgr.
K-D No. 205 battery strap.
The odd DBE with the intentionally lopsided offsets is a vintage BLACKHAWK 2675 (3/4 x 5/8).
The speeder is an INDESTRO MFG CO.
The combination wrench that has been butchered for clearance on the open end is a wartime Plomb 2012 with a plain steel finish.
The 4-inch bit is also wartime Plomb, a screw extractor marked "DRILL 13/32 9525" and "PAT NO. 1,875,484".
Gaffs get sharpened so they get short.*@#$Klein was the only company I knew that made replaceable gaffs. Most other makers made one piece spurs. All you have to do is look at a fir tree that is 4' in diameter or bigger to see how deep the crevices are in the bark to understand why the tree gaffs reach out so far. Tree gaffs are 2 1/2" - 3" long whereas pole gaffs are under 2" usually but I don't think there is an actual industry standard designation. Kickouts (when the bark or wood around the spur breaks away) occur easier on bark than wood so tree spurs often point more outward. If you have to work bowl-legged to keep your spurs in, your legs will tire very fast. The closer the spur is to your leg the easier it is on your legs for stamina. I think Lug's spurs are pole spurs but long enough to work in bark or sap wood if necessary.
Private Lugnutz
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Thanks, 2oolhound. This explanation makes sense and is what I was getting at with the dual-purpose (pole/tree) environment Signal Corps linemen and/or Combat Engineers would work in. (Or it could just be wishful thinking to self-rationalize these into vintage military vs vintage telco/forestry service...
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Resisting the urge to follow this up with a classic 1970's style Polish joke book joke!
Hey Lug, dont ************ down there!!
Thanks, 2oolhound. This explanation makes sense and is what I was getting at with the dual-purpose (pole/tree) environment Signal Corps linemen and/or Combat Engineers would work in. (Or it could just be wishful thinking to self-rationalize these into vintage military vs vintage telco/forestry service...
I'd agree they would be the obvious choice for Signal Corps linemen and/or Combat Engineers but probably not a determining factor as they should have been available to all users as well in that length.
Ole Slewfoot
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Picked this up free at the dump, it was stuck, but after a few whacks, now its not
Tag missing anyone recognize?
Once was sprayed gold over gray paint.
Tag missing anyone recognize?
Once was sprayed gold over gray paint.
joe.striper
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Picked this up free at the dump, it was stuck, but after a few whacks, now its not
Tag missing anyone recognize?
Once was sprayed gold over gray paint.
I am 99% it is Wissota, a very good name in grinders
Ole Slewfoot
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Thanks, this looks like a cousin at the very least
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=9312
the bearing spin well, but are pretty noisy, I'll tear it down to see.
It vibrates a good bit, but the knotty wheel is in terrible shape.
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=9312
the bearing spin well, but are pretty noisy, I'll tear it down to see.
It vibrates a good bit, but the knotty wheel is in terrible shape.
Craptain
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Just picked this up from Freecycle. All works except the timer but if I can't fix it that is no big deal.
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joe.striper
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Many of these grinders post ww2 were made by a few Companies. Wissota made for Milwaukee and others. Both my 10" Baldors are labeled as Delta Rockwell....know the shape and you will learn to identify them from 20 feet.