Outlawmws
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It just looked like a more prominent rise than most I've seen...
Yeah I think because I sanded the face to bring out the logo it makes it look way more pronounced in the pic than in real life...It just looked like a more prominent rise than most I've seen...
Beautiful condition on the Fisher, it would look great in the optional wood case. I collect Fisher tube gear but have never had that model.
Saukit is that a raised hammer face on the side of the BPH?
It just looked like a more prominent rise than most I've seen...
[PLUMB] hammers are known to have a "cheek" that is very pronounced, very round, and also very flat, much more so than other mfgrs, where the cheek is neither round or flat and almost flush and crowned explicitly so it does not have an edge, like the [PLUMB] does. As a wartime collector, I am always looking for 4-oz (GMTK), 16-oz (jeep, and very early GMTK) and 32-oz (GMTK) ball-pein hammers, so it's very identifiable to me. If you have a ball-pein hammer drawer with a mix of makes (Williams, Heller, Fairmount, etc) including a PLUMB just look at them all together and you'll see what I mean.Yeah I think because I sanded the face to bring out the logo it makes it look way more pronounced in the pic than in real life...

Bookmarked, thanks for the reference Don! I'll have to dig through my SK deep sockets to see what I have floating around. Looks like there was one remaining SK deep socket left from the set in the stuff that I picked up. I'm kind of kicking myself for not looking more carefully for the remaining Herbrand metric sockets while I was at the sale so if I find myself back in the area I may run by the sale again today and dig for the SK stuff as well.saukit, the S-K 3/8” drive deep set box looks to be in good condition. They used that one for several years with a variety of 12 and 6 point sockets included.
-Don
Great info, thank you Lugz! This one is marked 1 1/2 pounds but I'll keep an eye out for Plumb hammers in the GMTK sizes moving forward. I usually find them in very rusty condition so this bit of information should be helpful for identification![PLUMB] hammers are known to have a "cheek" that is very pronounced, very round, and also very flat, much more so than other mfgrs, where the cheek is neither round or flat and almost flush and crowned explicitly so it does not have an edge, like the [PLUMB] does. As a wartime collector, I am always looking for 4-oz (GMTK), 16-oz (jeep, and very early GMTK) and 32-oz (GMTK) ball-pein hammers, so it's very identifiable to me. If you have a ball-pein hammer drawer with a mix of makes (Williams, Heller, Fairmount, etc) including a PLUMB just look at them all together and you'll see what I mean.
Not to stifle your interest, but [PLUMB] ball-peins are actually pretty common, saukit, and unless it has a martial "U.S." marking next to the logo, it probably wouldn't flip well or easily, and I would leave it. Unless you need it as a user. I didn't mention my interest in GMTK collecting wrt that particular hammer, just as prelude for knowing the raised cheek. As Don already mentioned, the one you found is postwar. Model numbers (e.g., HBP- etc) often seen on other brands are generally postwar as well. If there are any size markings at all, they will be the antique system ("00000" or "5-0" or "5/0" for 4 oz, "0" for 1 lb, and "4" for 2 lbs). Good hammer though! Not the place or enough space for a primer on wartime ball-pein ID, sorry.This one is marked 1 1/2 pounds but I'll keep an eye out for Plumb hammers in the GMTK sizes moving forward.



Lugz: I picked up a pair of dykes like yours a few years ago. Mine are French-made. Here're pics of the markings.
Thanks, BB. I was thinking they looked vaguely familiar, but I couldn't remember! Mine could be French. Definitely a European box joint, which is unusual here. No cool French 'cast steel' marking like yours, though. Did you ever figure out the application? (EDIT: Disregard. I think I see a partial "JEWELRY" stamp.) Where did you post them other than here? It's weird we don't have a general Pliers thread. I'll post more here I guess in a bit.I picked up a pair of dykes like yours a few years ago. Mine are French-made.






Only here, Lugz, and no other info than what you've already deduced.Thanks, BB. I was thinking they looked vaguely familiar, but I couldn't remember! Mine could be French. Definitely a European box joint, which is unusual here. No cool French 'cast steel' marking like yours, though. Did you ever figure out the application? (EDIT: Disregard. I think I see a partial "JEWELRY" stamp.) Where did you post them other than here? It's weird we don't have a general Pliers thread. I'll post more here I guess in a bit.
Not bad. It's missing the vise, though.Cool aluminum hardhat

Tell her I like the pinecone hedgehog or shrew or whatever that little critter is supposed to be.nothing for me but a few things for SWMBO,
Nice find!NAPA 1/4" drill index made by New Britain
It always bugs me that the SK 3" extension is just a hair too long to fit in the box with them. You would think they could have figured out a way to utilize that spot over the mid-deeps. It does fit on a slight angle...saukit, the S-K 3/8” drive deep set box looks to be in good condition. They used that one for several years with a variety of 12 and 6 point sockets included.
-Don








I don’t doubt jewelry is one application. I’ve been looking for a pair I had here - now I suspect LesserDaughter2 swiped them. Might have been Lindstrom. But the 67 Utica catalog has some with that type of head, marketed as electronics diagonal cutters.I was thinking they looked vaguely familiar, but I couldn't remember! Did you ever figure out the application? (EDIT: Disregard. I think I see a partial "JEWELRY" stamp.)

Thanks for the lead.But the 67 Utica catalog has some with that type of head, marketed as electronics diagonal cutters.
The angle could keep your knuckles away from some work, too.I don’t see that they would perform much differently than regular dikes or end nippers, except that eyeballing a flush cut would be easier with the broader cutting edge.
Ha, I’m always down for an education! I just bought this for bashing on stuff, I knew it was common when I bought it. I’ll keep an eye out for the GMTK sizes though!Not to stifle your interest, but [PLUMB] ball-peins are actually pretty common, saukit, and unless it has a martial "U.S." marking next to the logo, it probably wouldn't flip well or easily, and I would leave it. Unless you need it as a user. I didn't mention my interest in GMTK collecting wrt that particular hammer, just as prelude for knowing the raised cheek. As Don already mentioned, the one you found is postwar. Model numbers (e.g., HBP- etc) often seen on other brands are generally postwar as well. If there are any size markings at all, they will be the antique system ("00000" or "5-0" or "5/0" for 4 oz, "0" for 1 lb, and "4" for 2 lbs). Good hammer though! Not the place or enough space for a primer on wartime ball-pein ID, sorry.![]()
LOL, Listed the Amber handles on Ebay at 2:45pm est, sold the ratchet on Ebay at 4:45pm est. Maybe the breaker bar isn't as desirable as the ratchet ;( . I do have a pending sale locally on the long handled SK ,that will be a 150% ROI right there. I've been very slow at picking in the last couple years, nice to have a hit or two now and then.I would list each of those amber handles for around $125 each on the bay. They should disappear quickly!











I should have said “similar” head. Nos 63, 64 & 64CS shown on (printed/pdf) pages 11/13 & 20/22 of the tealish-covered UTICA (Triangle) catalog 661. [EDIT 1968, according to IA]@LesserSon
Do you have a page ref? Maybe I am just flat out missing them, but I just checked the Utica '67 catalog, and when I didn't find them, I checked the '66 and the '63, all on ITCL. I can't find them anywhere. Do you have a different Utica '67 catalog?
No idea. And, strangely, I cannot for the life of me even remember where I picked mine up, so no clue there either.BMW, any clue what the original use was for these cases?


I agree, certainly Heavy tools of any sort. The aluminum trays in mine would be light duty for fishing gear (and leatherrette would not be a good choice for fishing either)I have a leatherette case which was originally an assayers case, sold by braun knecht heimann company, a local here in the bay area, that sold assay supplies. Mine came with a list of minerals in the lid. So think away from tools, as the leatherette cases aren't that strong.
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Assayer's chest - KirkHMB
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Thanks anyway BMW!No idea. And, strangely, I cannot for the life of me even remember where I picked mine up, so no clue there either.
Looks very similar to this: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/unknown-toolbox-at-estate-sale.397670/#post-7352231