40x80 Shop w/Apartment Build Thread

[MrMagoo]

Framing starts today. We've ben waiting on weather and subcontractors. In the interim I built a 12x10x8' chicken coop. Duplex coop designed to hold two flocks (one egg layers, one meat chickens). Stood the walls up yesterday.

It is going to have a "western" facade (think Universal Studios backlot). With a porch, tin roof and windows. The window will be lowered I just stuck it up there to keep the wind from tipping it over last night.

 

[Morio]

Awesome build so far! I am definitely following

 

[MrMagoo]

Thank goodness we're finally out of the dirt. Walls are going up! Today I also ordered the tankless water heater and finalized the design for the dormers over the shop in the attic. Garage doors and flush mount openers were also ordered today.

 

[MrMagoo]

More progress this morning.

 

[jeepinerdeep]

Do you have a date when I should plan on moving in?

Have you decided on a final floor plan layout for the living quarters yet or are you playing that a little loose?

 

[MrMagoo]

Tons of progress framing today! woot! Check out Jason's Free walking at 17 feet !!!!

 

[MrMagoo]

All the walls are framed. This morning we're setting trusses.

The second story of the apartment floor joists have to span 21' without any support.We chose Boise Cascade BCIs for the apartment second story floor joists on 12" centers. Should make for a nice stiff floor.

 

[Toolfool]

I'd get plywood on those tall walls before setting trusses.

 

[MrMagoo]

Yeah. We did.

 

[MrMagoo]

All walls up, trusses set. Second floor in. Monday we sheet it. We've already begun moving.

 

[MrMagoo]

Do you have a date when I should plan on moving in?

Have you decided on a final floor plan layout for the living quarters yet or are you playing that a little loose?

We have a final floor plan for the living quarters. See attached!

Note that North is down. I must have been wishing I was in Australia when I drew these.

 

[Toolfool]

Yeah. We did.

A few years back, another guy on GJ had framed a tall building like yours and was about to set trusses. I made the same post to him. He said he'd be fine with braces. He went ahead and set his trusses. Next day he posted a pic of a pile of sticks, then quickly deleted the thread. I think he realized his insurance co might read it.

 

[GEFELL]

Great job, following..

 

[Bruce 993 SEA]

Looking at the floor plan in the Master Suite area. I would put the door to the bath so you can walk through the closet into the bath. Add another sink to the master vanity where the old door is..

We did this and you loose a little wall space in the closet. It works well with our morning routine. May some would not like this though...

It seems you would walk from the bath all the way around to the closet the way t is.

Cheers!

 

[meathooker]

Love the build and the progress is amazing.

One thing that surprised me was seeing the master upstairs. What’s the reasoning for that?

 

[MrMagoo]

Looking at the floor plan in the Master Suite area. I would put the door to the bath so you can walk through the closet into the bath. Add another sink to the master vanity where the old door is..

We did this and you loose a little wall space in the closet. It works well with our morning routine. May some would not like this though...

It seems you would walk from the bath all the way around to the closet the way t is.

Cheers!

Thought about that. We had a previous house setup like that.

 

[MrMagoo]

Love the build and the progress is amazing.

One thing that surprised me was seeing the master upstairs. What’s the reasoning for that?

Wanted the main area for family / friend gatherings downstairs. Seems awkward to walk path the master bedroom upstairs to the family room.

Also, what you do not see on the plans is a large wrap around patio that will go out the east side and wrap around to the front on the north. It will be stamped concrete with a stacked rock wall, hot tub and BBQ area.

 

[jeepinerdeep]

We have a final floor plan for the living quarters. See attached!

Note that North is down. I must have been wishing I was in Australia when I drew these.

Thank you. That helps me.

I have a 24x40 single level living space sketched up. This has me reevaluating whether I was trying to cram too much in too little space.

Can't wait to see more.

 

[MrMagoo]

Roof sheeted. Dormers going in tomorrow. You can see how large the attic will be in one of the shots. Very pleased.

 

[MrMagoo]

Big day. In addition to the roof sheeting we got septic in and an RV dump station 125' away trenched in. Moving along I'd say!

 

[Big Al 15]

Maybe you've answered this but where will your stairs be to access second story?

 

[MrMagoo]

Looking at the floor plan in the Master Suite area. I would put the door to the bath so you can walk through the closet into the bath. Add another sink to the master vanity where the old door is..

We did this and you loose a little wall space in the closet. It works well with our morning routine. May some would not like this though...

It seems you would walk from the bath all the way around to the closet the way t is.

Cheers!

I go back and forth on this. Your point is well taken. I am considering a pocket door between bath and closet. The problem I have is two doors into the walk in closet means lots of lost space, and making it so you have to go through the bath to get to the closet makes the closet inaccessible if someone is in the bath. We've had houses with both configurations. The walking around a lot is our current compromise. We still can change our minds as the interior walls are not framed yet.

 

[MrMagoo]

Maybe you've answered this but where will your stairs be to access second story?

A great question! I chose to put the stairs in the shop. You go out the man door on the 1st floor and walk up the stairs.

I did this for several reasons:

1) Stairs are a terrible waste of living space

2) Stairs in the shop can be "rough framed". Stairs in living space have to be a work of art

3) Access to the attic requires a landing with a second flight, which would have eaten up even more living space.

4) I put a shop bathroom (1/2 bath) under the stairwell landing (which is 4'x8' plus the space under the stringer).

 

[Gotcha640]

As far as the stairs in the shop, makes sense since you're also building a house (next year? Maybe you mentioned.)

Do you have kids calling dibs on moving in the apartment once the house is done?

What's the plan for this space? Retire and play with the garden and the cows and the toys? Run your dirt work industry?

Is there a standard on how much sheeting before trusses? I see it's not complete, but I understand they would stiffen the structure considerably. Half sheeted? One course across and one vertical? Know it when you see it?

 

[Gotcha640]

Also, I've never owned multiple living spaces, let alone in mouse country.

How do you close up the rv once you move in to the apartment (maybe you go on trips regularly enough not to worry) and how do you seal up the apartment once the house is done? Mothballs and mouse traps and drain the water lines?

 

[MrMagoo]

Do you have kids calling dibs on moving in the apartment once the house is done?

What's the plan for this space? Retire and play with the garden and the cows and the toys? Run your dirt work industry?

Is there a standard on how much sheeting before trusses? I see it's not complete, but I understand they would stiffen the structure considerably. Half sheeted? One course across and one vertical? Know it when you see it?

No kids. All grown and out. Thus the massive master bedroom (most of upstairs). An "occasional" guest room in the attic is planned or a "bunk house" by the garden (aka shack).

I/we are retired. We're downsizing from a high-tax 4 bedroom 3,100 sq. ft. house with 36x60 shop on 1.5 acres on waterfront to low-tax 10 acres, house and shop all in 40x80 building on same street 4 miles closer to town not on the water.

No plans to build another house. No plans for anyone to live with us except Wyatt, the B lack Lab and my 18 chickens.

 

[MrMagoo]

Also, I've never owned multiple living spaces, let alone in mouse country.

How do you close up the rv once you move in to the apartment (maybe you go on trips regularly enough not to worry) and how do you seal up the apartment once the house is done? Mothballs and mouse traps and drain the water lines?

Not much of a worry here.

 

[Gotcha640]

No plans to build another house. No plans for anyone to live with us except Wyatt, the B lack Lab and my 18 chickens.

Plan at the top shows a 40x50 house. Maybe I missed something.

 

[MrMagoo]

Plan at the top shows a 40x50 house. Maybe I missed something.

Eventually. I'm a bit ******* right now.

 

[MrMagoo]

How the weather in Houston? Chilly here right now. Unfortunately.

 

[Gotcha640]

I work in industrial construction (project management and controls, glad to be out of the field), and we don't plan major projects June to September. Work rest can get as high as 10 minutes on, 50 minutes rest. Some projects go 80 percent night shift for that reason.

I've been looking hard at moving to the mountains, if only I can convince the boss I don't need to be on site.

 

[Big Al 15]

A great question! I chose to put the stairs in the shop. You go out the man door on the 1st floor and walk up the stairs.

I did this for several reasons:

1) Stairs are a terrible waste of living space

2) Stairs in the shop can be "rough framed". Stairs in living space have to be a work of art

3) Access to the attic requires a landing with a second flight, which would have eaten up even more living space.

4) I put a shop bathroom (1/2 bath) under the stairwell landing (which is 4'x8' plus the space under the stringer).

All very valid points but man I'd hate to always go out and around when changing floors.

I'm planning something very similar to yours and really like how you've got it laid out. I'll be either 16x48 or 20x48.

 

[MrMagoo]

All very valid points but man I'd hate to always go out and around when changing floors.

If that becomes an issue I'll simply extend the apartment 4 more feet and absorb the stairwell.

 

[MrMagoo]

Dormers in. Misty Mountain today!

 

[MrMagoo]

Dormers built, building sheeted, roof 90% on. Waiting on windows and siding.

 

[930dreamer]

What a view, very nice.

 

[Jayman17]

Great start on your project and located in a beautiful setting. I am following this. Thanks for posting

Jay

 

[MrMagoo]

100% roof on, switching to interior framing, plumbing and electrical next week. Also, grading and then pouring a patio next week in preparation for a roof off the (north) front door patio area.

 

[MrMagoo]

Pouring concrete today for the porch and patio off the east side and the propane tank pad.

Interior framing was completed yesterday.

Stairs to second floor and attic completed yesterday.

 

[MrMagoo]

Here's what the inside looks like now that framing is done. You can see on the second floor from the master bedroom the laundry room and guest bath, master bath and walk in closet. Here's also a shot of the master from the attic and finally the attic. The attic turned out much larger than I thought. Plenty of space for SWAMBOs treasures.