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Re: 70 Yr old couple building a barn (garage/workshop)

your solutions to problems are brilliant, typically when building stuff I use brute force and ignorance but after seeing your thread it makes me think of easier ways to complete my projects, so thank you!
 

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Really love your ingenious solutions to getting things done! Too many people look at a task and decide it is more than they can do - so it just never gets done. You see a challenge, accept it, think about it a bit, and then get it done! Cheers!
 

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Wow, what can I say that already hasn't!!?? You guys are amazing! Great work so far and your ingenuity...I'm speechless!!
 

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Amazing build, you are the two most ingenious people I have ever seen. Beautiful building.
 

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Dave and Lin
great to see ya back on the roof. Y'all are our heroes. :bowdown: Just curious, can you tell a difference in the aches and pains from one season/year to the next. Do you exercise and stretch before beginning work each day?

Rita and I are gearing up to put a 5V tin roof on the house this fall (maybe autumn would be a better term to use). I put the tin roof on the barn by myself but that was 22 years ago. At 60, I'm not too humble to ask my wife for a little ground help. We will be gathering all the ladders, tools and materials this summer as well as dieting, exercising and getting in shape for the task at hand.

Our main roof is a 12/12 and as you can see in the pics below, it is a long way down. One tool I've never used is the safety harness and rope. Any suggestions as to type ,a name brand to use and any lessons learned?

Another thing I didn't pay attention to in all your great pictures, did you install screws on the ribs or flat of the tin. I plan to install them on the ribs as that is how I use to nail them.
 

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Just google roofing safety harness, they are not much and the payback could be hard to calculate. I used one while dismantaling a 1870's barn...it's a good feeling to have when your 50ft up on a roof.

Also look into some roof jacks, They screw into the roof and with a 2x6,8,10 in place give you something level to stand on.
 
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Dave and Lin
great to see ya back on the roof. Y'all are our heroes. Just curious, can you tell a difference in the aches and pains from one season/year to the next. Do you exercise and stretch before beginning work each day?


Great to hear from you again as well.
At 72 you can tell the difference in the aches and pains from day to day! But yes every year down the road has been harder. I don't do anything special each day except that I usually have to bring out equipment etc to get started and I don't rush that. So in a way that does replace the stretching etc. I think.

Rita and I are gearing up to put a 5V tin roof on the house this fall (maybe autumn would be a better term to use). I put the tin roof on the barn by myself but that was 22 years ago. At 60, I'm not too humble to ask my wife for a little ground help. We will be gathering all the ladders, tools and materials this summer as well as dieting, exercising and getting in shape for the task at hand.

Staying or getting in shape is always a good thing. We try to watch what we eat and pay attention to our needs. Lin has always been in good shape and keeps her weight down. 120 today. I have to watch mine a little bit more than she does. Her cooking is just too good and I do like to eat. I am 165 now and will drop to 155 to 160 as I get back at it. We still mow our lawn with a 37 year old walk behind mower that helps us stay in shape.

Our main roof is a 12/12 and as you can see in the pics below, it is a long way down. One tool I've never used is the safety harness and rope. Any suggestions as to type ,a name brand to use and any lessons learned?

I bought mine from Web Rigging Supply in Barrington IL. However it took them to have to send two before I got one that was one that I felt safe to use. The bottom belts on the first one had two different style ends and did not match to the harness. Second one did and has worked well for me. It is a padded version and if you are going to be in it for long periods of time I think that is a big help. Mine has full attachment hookup on both front and rear as well as attachment rings on both left and right sides. I have not found that I need the side attachments. On a larger (wider) roof they might be useful. I tie to the front one always and most of the time to the rear as a back up.

Not knowing where you are purchasing your metal, but since getting my harness I have found that some of the larger metal roof suppliers have some excellent climbing harnesses for sale. Check the accessory section of their web sites.

Use good quality rope! I like something in the diameter range of half inch.
If you don't already know how to tie a PRUSSIK KNOT I strongly suggest that you look into it. Best part of the safety thing that I did. The following link is to Mike Barters youtube site on how to do this.


Make a short rope, 24 to 30 inches to go from the prussik to a quick connect to your harness. Now as you move around your locations you can just slide the knot up and down your main safety rope. Slick.

Do not tie the safety rope to the trailer hitch on your pickup and then send your wife for more beer.

Another thing I didn't pay attention to in all your great pictures, did you install screws on the ribs or flat of the tin. I plan to install them on the ribs as that is how I use to nail them.

This topic can open a really big can of worms. But here goes.
I put my screws on the flat right next, about half inch from, the ribs. Both the high and low ribs. It is how most manufacturers of the style of tin that we used reccomend. And it makes sense to me as well. To properly torque the screws to the attachment material you need to have them touch. I find that when this is done in this manner the overlapping rib will pull down like a clamp and make a sufficient seal. Some that I have talked to prefer to take it a step further and use short screws to lace the ribs together. Thats ok but it seems like overkill. Remember every screw is a hole in your roof. I'm sure I will be in disagreement with quite a few on this, but this is how we did it.
Also some metal roof companies will void warranty if not installed their way. This was not a concern for us, I do it my way, anyway.

Hope I have been of some help.
 

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Do not tie the safety rope to the trailer hitch on your pickup and then send your wife for more beer.

SO NOTED and I also reminded my wife as that is one of her jobs.:) :beer::)

Thanks for all the info Dave and Pete. Am checking Craigs List for ladders, ladder jacks, roof jacks, harnesses etc. Probably lot of folks buy this stuff for one job and resell.

I'll probably be emailing you later as time gets closer to starting. You and Lin be careful!!! later gator
 
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Thanks for that URL. That is a GREAT site. Prices look good and they have lots of options. Wish I had found them when I needed my stuff.
But also anyone that is even thinking about doing a roof or some sort of high work should go on there and check out the many videos that are available. They have training and all sorts of info. They take it serious but have fun doing it.
A must look for any first time roof idiot. Hang in there, Dave
 

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You sir and your lovely lin are simply amazing! You are a true craftsman! I love your barn I always thought thy dont make them like that any more. But you do! Keep up the good work and stay safe.
 

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Dave and Lin,

It's been over 3 weeks, time for another update from you about this awesome project!

Hope you've both survived Spring.

Lane
 
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Dave and Lin,

It's been over 3 weeks, time for another update from you about this awesome project!

Hope you've both survived Spring.

Lane

Hey Lane thanks for asking. Nothing to report on progress, weather has just plain screwed us up.
I see you are in Canada and you may not have seen our storm reports from here. Seven tornados and seven deaths near us one one night. Lots of very strong storms also in the last three weeks. When it does clear than it is followed by high winds for two to three days. Not good roofing conditions.
Have everything ready to go, just need a break in the weather. Thanks again for asking.
 

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Very nice work true craftsman
 

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Lin and Dave you are inspirations...at 57 I can only hope I'm still going as strong as you 2 kiddos when I hit my 70's.

I can relate to your weather problems also it seems, we've had one bad storm after another here in Indiana. Several tornadoes and high winds, baseball sized hail and close to 20" of rain in the last 3 weeks. It has put a kink in my farming this spring.
 

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Lin and Dave, great to see you are both back to work on your project and enjoying good health.. Congrats on your anniversery , I have to admit I have stolen your "Derrick" idea, now I would normally send you a fee for patent infridgement but realized I had made a modification so technicly I can skip it!:) I am finishing a 36 x40 monitor type barn with a center section storage space over the center section. Well Derrick was just what I needed to work inside to finish wiring,insulation sheetrock etc with some modifications....Your ideas and energy inspire us good luck,health and God bless..bobbycoke
 
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Lin and Dave, great to see you are both back to work on your project and enjoying good health.. Congrats on your anniversery , I have to admit I have stolen your "Derrick" idea, now I would normally send you a fee for patent infridgement but realized I had made a modification so technicly I can skip it!:) I am finishing a 36 x40 monitor type barn with a center section storage space over the center section. Well Derrick was just what I needed to work inside to finish wiring,insulation sheetrock etc with some modifications....Your ideas and energy inspire us good luck,health and God bless..bobbycoke

Glad to be of some help. Do you have any pictures of Derricks cousin? Would be fun to see. Also of the Monitor Barn. Better yet start a thread and show everyone on the GJ the project.
3.5 inches of rain last 24 hours, tornadoes all around us and two more days of the same to look forward to.
 
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Ok, so lets see.
It’s great to post pictures of garage builds, especially if they are awesome and expensive and built by crews of at least twenty techs that can finish the job in four and a half days.
But if someone might lose it in a disaster or even worse than that, dare I be so bold to state, have injury or death occur, then this is not a proper place to post it.
Lost apparently is the fact that the posts on here are done by real people that in some cases have real feelings for their fellow members. Friendships have in spite of some been formed and in this time of need, that may be of great comfort.

As some of you know I posted a thread titled TORNADO LOSSES earlier today. Here is a copy of the text.

"This may or may not be the place to have this thread and we apologize if it is.
But we just wanted to say something about the devastation that has occurred in the southern portion of the USA. Our prayers and condolence go out to any and all that have had losses. A lot of the members on here are from the areas that have been effected or have friends and relatives that are.
We pray that you are all ok. Let us know if you would feel like sharing."

This thread was moved. Or better stated buried in the FREE PARKING.

How insensitive do you have to be to qualify as an administrator on these forums.

And I would also like to add. Move or alter this post and it will be the last post of mine you will ever edit. You may control your end but I control mine.
 

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As an administrator on another forum it's a slippery slope. If you allow one thread that isn't within the intent of the forum, you open the door to a flood of non-subject threads. It's not a matter of sensitivities, it's a matter of adherence to the rules and their application to all that post/read.

Bend one rule and another person may take offense to it if their cause/thread was just as dear to them, but not allowed.

Just a point to consider from the other side.
 

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Lin and Dave,

I thought of you two immediately and am thankful to see you posting. All folks in distress are in our prayers. We all support each other through trials and tribulations and we're thankful you, along with your property, have come through the storm so far. Every day's a blessing. (I'll post on the Free Parking thread, as well.)

Chris
 

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Lin and Dave,

I hope I have half of your energy, half of your ambition and ONE TENTH of your skills and ingenuity by the time I turn 70 !
 

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Ok, so lets see.
As some of you know I posted a thread titled TORNADO LOSSES earlier
This thread was moved. Or better stated buried in the FREE PARKING.

How insensitive do you have to be to qualify as an administrator on these forums.

And I would also like to add. Move or alter this post and it will be the last post of mine you will ever edit. You may control your end but I control mine.

Why did you see it as insensitive? You see it as "buried"....but perhaps a mod thought it would get MORE traffic by moving it. Perhaps he thought it should be ELEVATED to where more people would see it. :headscrat
 
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Why did you see it as insensitive? You see it as "buried"....but perhaps a mod thought it would get MORE traffic by moving it. Perhaps he thought it should be ELEVATED to where more people would see it. :headscrat

If the "MOD" wanted to elevate it to where more people would see it he could of locked it, or as they say on this forum made it a sticky. Have you actually seen how long a post last on the front page in Free Parking.

I too have been a mod on other forums and know the difference between breaking the rules and doing the right thing.

But this is pointless. Since I posted the Tornado loss post I have had over 750 views on this thread. As you can see there have been only 4 posts. Not much in the way of support for someone that has tried to do the right thing.

Enjoy yourselfs.
 

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Please don't punish all of us here enjoying your thread because you are mad at a mod.

I just spent about 3 hours reading through this thread and would hate to see it end this way.

I have enjoyed and learned from reading it. I have also developed a great deal of respect and admiration for you and your wife (as I'm sure most of us have).

Please continue.

Bruce.
 

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Been following this thread for a long time.. You shouldn't worry about where the thread is located, those of us who have been following your great progress have subscribed to the thread and are reminded of new posts with an email or on our CP(control panel). Was thinking about your place when I heard of all the weather problems in your area and am glad you have survived with no significant damage.

Keep posting...
 

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I agree with the others. We are all enjoying and profiting from your barn/garage building posts. The mod was doing his job as he saw it. That does not mean any of us agreed. Overall, the Garage Journal forum is well managed. Certainly not a one strike and you are out kind of place. Stick around.
 

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ditto the last 3 posts. This is the first thread I always pull up when I sign into GJ. Sure would hate to not see you continue.:bowdown: Please sir, keep 'em comin. :beer:
 

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Since I posted the Tornado loss post I have had over 750 views on this thread. As you can see there have been only 4 posts.
Maybe they simply have nothing to say?

As has been said, don't let one 'misunderstanding' spoil things. Show us all that drive and resilience illustrated by your amazing achievements with the barn and continue updating us. :thumbup::beer:
 

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I just posted that the mods need to combine all the tornado threads into the one Nasman started. I too would hate to not be able to see this building completed. Please Nasman don't bail on us
 
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As far as I’m concerned it is a done issue.

I am not looking to win it or am I going to take my ball and go home.

I don’t need something to be done to polish it over, please don’t. That would just leave a bad taste for everyone.
I also don’t need to be made into the bad guy for punishing anyone. It’s our build and our thread.

Basically here is what will happen.

When we have something new put up on the web site for all the world to see, I will post the url to that page on here and those that are interested can click on it. As you can now or anytime that the web site is available.

You can post remarks (or not ) on here after viewing or you can comment to us from the link on our index page.

The web site is nothing fancy and we intended it that way, and will maintain it that way.
It has always contained 100% of what we post about the build on this thread, plus a lot more text and pictures.

So until then stay safe.
 

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Good Luck, NASMAN
 

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Well I am Very happy to hear from ya all... glad your still at it..It looking very nice..:)
 

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I am sorry that it has come to this, this thread has been an inspiration to all who read it. I commend you on your ingenuity and will power, you have the ability to adapt, overcome and dominate, you sir are what is great about the garagejournal. I shall follow your site from now on, but i would be lying to you if i told you that you will not be missed here.
I wish you and your wife the best in your endeavors, we all know that you will be just fine.

Sincerely, Blue dog's dad in Los Angeles.

PS, please reconsider, not continuing to update this thread, we all know that you are not a quitter in anyway and we all have love you in our hearts.
 
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