Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[bulletpruf]

I watch Farmcraft101 on Youtube. He just did a bunch of that ****. Didn't look any fun at all.

Ditto. Lately I've been binge watching him and Diesel Creek. Trying to figure out how to justify buying a project D3 dozer...

 

[86turbodsl]

Those are two of my favorite channels. Diesel creek usually gets an immediate watch when it shows up. You need a dozer. I need a dozer. Everybody needs a dozer. Mine'll probably be an Oliver or a Cletrac though.

 

[86turbodsl]

Dammit. For some reason, one of the ports on the steering valve is 1/4 not 3/8. I don't have that fitting. Total stop. why would they do that on a steering valve?

 

[bimmer1980]

Eh, **** happens... Hence why it is good to get after it and then you find out so you can move to the next solution.... It's Tuesday, now you have the rest of the week to figure out the next step.

I had an oops on one of the fittings I had ordered for the excavator... More fittings and hoses ordered and moving on... Luckily I wasn't on a deadline for getting the excavator done.

Regardless, great progress! Definitely moving in the right direction. You'll feel great once the forklift is up and running.

 

[86turbodsl]

Got up early this morning and hit Exotic Automation in town. It was a 47 mile round trip, but i got 3 fittings, straight, 45deg and 90 deg. Came back home and played around with lock to lock hose routing around the valve. Ended up using the 90s on both of the valve connections. Made up the rest of the hoses this afternoon. Tightened them all down. Had my son hold hoses on the opposite side of the forklift from where i was working to get lengths perfect. I still have 2 brackets to make to hold hoses where i want them, but routing is neat and clean. I absolutely love having the crimper onsite. I'd have been at 2-3 visits to the store by the time i got everything the way i want.

We're battened down right now, with big storms moving in the next hour or so. It's raining at the moment. Tomorrow looks like mostly rain, so i will probably start packing up the shop and try to get hoses purged between raindrops. It's looking good for the weekend, and i've got volunteer helpers for cleanout. I figure if i can get most of it packed into totes, and move big stuff out on pallets, that will allow the big stuff to move where it needs to.



Now none of these photos show routing perfectly where i want it, but roughly. I plan to make 2 brackets with zip tie mounting that affix to the bellhousing/engine interface on a bolt. I figure that should allow movement of hoses while keeping things where they need to be. I may zip tie hoses together, although i'm not sure that's good practice or not. The two hoses attached to the valve have good freedom of movement and don't really rub on anything. The two cylinders have hoses that can articulate up and down for axle movement without abrading on anything at the frame. Think i'm in good shape. The two lines that run under the tractor are actually above a line that runs longitudinally along the bottom of the tractor. I'm already seeing room for improvement on existing lines on this thing. There's some real kludgy stuff going on.

The forklift was out in the middle of nowhere in the thumb of michigan so i think they didn't have easy access to lines. There's more than a few lines on this thing that are NPT elbowed in the middle. IE, this is what was available at tractor supply on a Saturday.

I'm glad i got this wrapped up. The steering valve was leaking pretty bad. I have a very wet ground under it, and i put a pan under it overnight, and there was an easy half gallon of fluid in it this morning. I don't think that spot is going to grow anything anymore.

 

[bulletpruf]

Progress!!!

 

[86turbodsl]

Yes, and had i not been distracted so much today, it would've been running!!!

 

[Spareparts]

They make kevlor sleeves if you are concerned about abrasion, just slide them on over the hoses

 

[86turbodsl]

GOOD NEWS! I just drove the forklift around the yard. After multiple thought experiments, and being careful, once i got it started, the steering was jumping all over. More on this later.
I reasoned i must have connected the sides opposite. I quickly swapped sides on the steering valve, and it operated pretty normally. Ran it back and forth about 20 times, and it stared acting pretty smooth. Getting the air out.
I think there is play in the steering gear connection to the steering valve spool, based on how it has a delay before turning.
I also think that if there wasn't this play, i would have gone into a binding situation instead of the steering swinging wildly back and forth. It was bouncing off one side of the play in the linkage to the other. Once i got it swapped, it was fine.
So as of now, it's pretty functional. Or like it was anyway. There's plenty of room for improvement.

A good spot to end the night!

 

[86turbodsl]

And now we're under a tornado watch until 3am. Just ducky.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Awesome to have the forklift driving!

 

[bimmer1980]

excellent news on getting the forklift operational!! That will be very helpful going forward... Those little brackets are great filler work when you need a small project.. in between the other more critical projects....

Glad to hear of the problem solving and pushing through it. Good job!!

 

[86turbodsl]

Yes, it's very good news. This morning i am packing up the shop. Had to air up the mower back tire. It was flat this morning. Also found that the voltage drop during turning the PTO on is causing the solenoid to drop out. I will probably have to attend to the charging system before very long. That little thing on the mower only thinks it's an alternator.

 

[rattle_snake]

Nice. Now that you fork is back in service, you can shop for that vintage dozer you have always wanted.

 

[86turbodsl]

Haha! That may be a while.

I've got the welding table cleaned off and have figured out some wheel storage. Its only temporary but it solves the problem for now.




Just a carriage bolt and two nuts in an existing hole

 

[kent_323is]

That looks great! Having some focus, you've knocked out a lot of projects recently that really move it forward for you... mower cutting grass, forklift hydraulics, and now some shop cleaning. That's great progress, keep at it!

 

[86turbodsl]

Picking up now, sweeping. Trying to organize, but may just start throwing stuff outside. We will see.

 

[kent_323is]

If you do start putting stuff outside, try to put it on a pallet and line it up. It helps later to not just have random piles. Also, once palletized, then you have options to move it around easier, or when it comes back in, put it on the pallet racking.

Or...finish sweeping, call it a day on organizing, and go back to work on projects...no sense in burning yourself out on organizing!

 

[86turbodsl]

That was always my plan, to palletize everything going outside if possible. Line it up in rows. easier to mow around and find things too.

 

[86turbodsl]

So far...

 

[86turbodsl]

I just pulled a pallet out of the rack that was sagging badly. I had to use a hydraulic jack to push up the end that was sagging so I could pick it with the namco. Now I will add the wire rack I should have done first.

 

[bulletpruf]

So far...

I can see the floor!!!

 

[86turbodsl]

Better

 

[rattle_snake]

What's the Eaton supercharger from on the floor? GM v6?

 

[86turbodsl]

That's from an Audi 3.0T.

I grabbed one because its' TVS series. More efficient. And they're cheap and everywhere.
I'm just grasping at straws trying to get more power out of the Audi. The Santa Cruz has me completely spoiled. That thing is a rocketship.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Nice. Now that you fork is back in service, you can shop for that vintage dozer you have always wanted.

Stahp! The man already has three lifetimes of stuff.

 

[86turbodsl]

For my final hat trick of the day, i put on the 2nd side panel of the namco and hooked up the choke cable/made choke cable mount. I no longer need to fiddle with the carb on start up. Off to shower and bed.

 

[86turbodsl]

Well that didn't last long. The namco is dead. I started it up this morning, moved the tire balancer out of the doorway, then prepared to lift the brownie onto a pallet. It started having trouble running, making crunchy noises and now is sort of misfiring. When i can get it to start, it needs significant throttle to stay running. Investigating now. Pulled plugs, spins over ok, but running not so much. I am wondering if it has a timing chain. I don't believe with the 6.5CR it can be interference so i'm probably ok if it did skip a chain, but i don't know whats in there. I do know Onan parts are $$$$.

 

[86turbodsl]

It's gear on gear drive timing, and flathead, so if i had to guess, we're dealing with a broken valve spring.

 

[86turbodsl]

Pulled off intake and exhaust, pulled valve covers. Everything looks good. Plenty of oil pressure. Compression test showed 130psi on both cylinders. With CR as low as it is on this engine, i think that's dandy.

I'm at a loss. Bad gas or something? Clean the carb, fresh gas and run it? Any ideas why it would be crunchy sounding?
Other than the starter drive being a little loud, it generally is a quiet forklift.

Plugs looked ok if a bit rich. Low coil voltage? I am at a loss. It's got 14V running at idle.

 

[Bob Heine]

Now I feel bad for throwing out my flathead engine valve spring compressor.

 

[86turbodsl]

I'm sure they still make them Bob. I'm just going to go thru all the basics while I reassemble. Maybe i'll see something.

 

[kent_323is]

Any pics of the engine? Did you check the flywheel? is the nut loose? that could cause some slight rubbing sound that is crunchy. Also check the flywheel key and make sure that didn't shear.

 

[86turbodsl]

I'll get some photos. I didn't check flywheel. Gotta pull engine to do that.

 

[rattle_snake]

Stahp! The man already has three lifetimes of stuff.

Perhaps. But plenty of space to store just one more machine. Compared to 'other members' three isn't that bad.

 

[rattle_snake]

That's from an Audi 3.0T.

I grabbed one because its' TVS series. More efficient. And they're cheap and everywhere.
I'm just grasping at straws trying to get more power out of the Audi. The Santa Cruz has me completely spoiled. That thing is a rocketship.

Sorry probably someplace here but does your current Audi have the old style roots Eaton, or just N/A?

I'd like to upgrade the Eaton on my cobra to a TVS. Very slippery slope on the supporting mods. Easy 600 rwhp/rwtq

 

[86turbodsl]

Here's some photos.

 

[86turbodsl]

Sorry probably someplace here but does your current Audi have the old style roots Eaton, or just N/A?

I'd like to upgrade the Eaton on my cobra to a TVS. Very slippery slope on the supporting mods. Easy 600 rwhp/rwtq

It's na. It's a dream maybe. It'd be custom. I can do about anything on hardware side. Controls are the issue. The ecu doesn't understand boost.

 

[bulletpruf]

Pulled off intake and exhaust, pulled valve covers. Everything looks good. Plenty of oil pressure. Compression test showed 130psi on both cylinders. With CR as low as it is on this engine, i think that's dandy.

I'm at a loss. Bad gas or something? Clean the carb, fresh gas and run it? Any ideas why it would be crunchy sounding?
Other than the starter drive being a little loud, it generally is a quiet forklift.

Plugs looked ok if a bit rich. Low coil voltage? I am at a loss. It's got 14V running at idle.

I'm telling you something that you already know, but it needs fuel, spark, and compression to run. Looks like you've already ruled out compression -- 130 psi sounds mighty fine, especially on a low compression engine.

If you need more throttle to keep it running, that sounds like a vacuum leak to me. Get it running and then spray something flammable (brake cleaner, starting fluid) around the base of the carb and on any vacuum lines. When rpm's increase, you've found your leak.

Also worth your while to check the fuel filter. It wouldn't hurt to drain and refill the tank with fresh gas, too.

If it runs when cold and then quits when hot, I'd be checking the coil.

I'm clueless on the crunchy sound. Are you hearing that when it's running and in neutral?

 

[86turbodsl]

Checked valve clearances all at nominal, put the valve covers back on. Fuel filter is vastly bigger than needs to be, and brand new. It's getting new rtv when the intake/exhaust goes back on, so that trail is out the window. I did find the B+ to the coil was a little loose. The crunchy sound may have been the starter. The ancient starter on this thing needs rpms to throw the bendix back to park. it's a terrible starter honestly. If i could get a modern one i would do that. I will be filling with fresh gas before start. Half and half would be ok probably. If i can't get this figured out, a repower would be the nuclear option. I do have a 2cyl Yanmar diesel that would slot right in there. And it wouldn't have the old gas problem then. BUT that is definitely NOT something i want to do.