Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[bulletpruf]

Both this thread and the Salvage garage are interesting, and I want the best for them.

I'm a big fan of 86 and Strouty, and keep up to date on this thread, but Strouty's can be a bit overwhelming at times, and if you miss a few days of Strouty's thread, it takes a while to catch up on the latest shenanigans.

 

[bulletpruf]

Man i wish you weren't so far away. Maybe one of these days, after i get my channel started, we can collaborate on some
Fairlane content on a visit to my bro in DFW. I can't bring myself to do much filming out there with it in the state it's in. I'd be tripping over the camera equipment with the clutter.

I would road trip to your place. Now that I'm retired and will be working part-time, I'll have more free time. Anyway, I thought that would be a good way to add quality content to my channel -- helping folks resurrect stalled/forgotten/abandoned projects.

 

[bulletpruf]

Yes, that's a tall ask for a non-family, based on the amount of time it would take. I am a bit overwhelmed with what my dad squirreled away, and i'm even a car guy who knows a lot about what he did. It is neither quick nor easy to unwind a collection.

I started a thread on the topic - https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...en-i-pass-away-how-to-prepare-auction.518735/

 

[Monza Harry]

86TD, yours and Strouty's we'll call them "adventures" strike really close to home 1200 & 150 miles is close when we are talking about skilled optimistic "Dreamers" in my own mirror/likenes. I have to step over some "treasures" to get through my garage. The thoughts I have to share are these, consider your direction this way, a lump of steel doesn't shine in one step! Pour ingot then forge or multi step roll to billet. Machine, grind, rough stone next finer stone and 4 or 6 more finer stoning operations, then upto 6 more diamond/abrasive buff/polish. Then fix any haze, or swirls. Don't try and think in one and done, there are steps involved. I really like the cordless tool storage holder listed a few posts back. Perfect not likely on the first swing, but the perfect approach just the same, build quick [now it is neater and important part here is it "WORKING!" It really ***** to build a solution to a high degree of finish and then discover your elegant vision and execution doesn't work as planned. These intermediary steps allow a higher polish on the finished project.
Try and force your thinking to see these as prototypes. Remember a steaming pile of feces is a diamond in need of some turd polishing . I am now at the point of refusing free things I really want, no room and less time/funds for these treasures. With an unsupported car project parts for that have to be grabbed when available, period. The other thing you may not be really aware of yet, that for me my strength, drive/stamina, and overall health have declined unlike anything I could ever dream after 55, so get after it and keep after it while you can. We are all in this together! Best to you! Harry [heal thy self]
Another shortcoming in my life is an unacceptable level of unpreparededness for likely impending disasters usually 4 wheeled and needed daily

 

[bimmer1980]

One of the things I have finally figured out for myself, is that the "stuff" will either control you/me or you have to control the stuff. It's not easy passing up "bargains". But sometimes after the moment passes, it is actually a relief.

One of my "bargains" I did buy and bring home was an Excello milling machine. Bought it for $300. It had issues. Bearings and bushing in the head were wore out. Table was ok, some slop in it, but not horrible. After moving it around the garage so I could continue to actually work on my garage, I finally decided I needed it sell it. I figured out that even after putting work into it, it would not really be a great solution for my garage. I already had a Bridgeport milling machine in storage in my other smaller garage that was in much better shape overall. It was a mental brurden to see this Excello milling machine taking up space and needing more work that I was willing to put into it. I listed it for sale and after a number of weeks I finally sold it. I ultimately did double my money ($650) on this venture. However, It did cost me a bit of time to go get it, and then move it about three or four times in the garage. In hindsight , I wish I had never bought it. I am happy with my Bridgeport purchase, even tho I ultimately had to install new bushing and some bearings into it. The Bridgeport is now under power and ready for use. It's not in its final position in the shop. A couple of other pieces of equipment need to be sold first. Regardless, having it usable goes a long ways.

There are a couple of other pieces of equipment that were impulse auction buys that I have sold or need to sell. One was a "pin router". Saw a smaller one here in a thread in garagejournal and thought I "needed" one too. This one was nearly the size of a milling machine. Hauled it home. Then moved it about four times before realizing, ****, I'm not going to use this thing as I thought I would.... Listed it for sale. Small market for this type of machine, but finally a guy did buy it. I still did roughly double my money. Bought for about $190 and sold for $400.

I won't get into the bandsaw project... Bought for $200, just needed "drive wheel"... And $200 later and the thing is in a bunch of pieces... Sand blasting...sand everywhere. Frustration with sand blaster feeding sand... Yeah, I should keep working on painting it....I'm over 2 years into this project..

In hindsight, even if I had broke even on those two items, it's worth it to have them out of my way. Now I just need to apply that to a couple of other items I need to list.....

It's not easy letting go of things (there's a whole family back story on that...) But when things finally leave the premises, I'm happier with the long term outlook.

My take away, there is no 'magic machine(s) that will solve your problem. I think I used to thing there was. Nope, it just takes perseverance the get square pegs in round holes...lol.

In other news, shredded a belt on the F525 this morning..... Luckily I was able to finish mowing with the push mower.

It's a journey....

 

[86turbodsl]

You forgot convertible...

 

[86turbodsl]

I'm shopping for gauges for the mower this morning. I ran it out of fuel last night mowing on a slight incline. I looked before i mowed and it was looking ok. But nope. Went and got more diesel and got it going again. It's NO fun losing fuel on a diesel. The temp gauge is also wonky. It drops suddenly to nothing then comes back suddenly. Can't have that. So thinking new gauges in order. I don't care if oem. Probably just chinesium. It's also rainy today, so need to wait for the dry out.

 

[86turbodsl]

I'm a big fan of 86 and Strouty, and keep up to date on this thread, but Strouty's can be a bit overwhelming at times, and if you miss a few days of Strouty's thread, it takes a while to catch up on the latest shenanigans.

This. Some times i miss his content for a couple days, and i need to back up like 4 pages to recalibrate.

 

[86turbodsl]

Gave up mowing, took to the shop and took shroud back off. Going to patch all the holes and try again. It's also become apparent it's a vacuum cleaner after I found the rad full of grass.

 

[Mr.zippy]

There were lots of great points in that post, but this is the one that I'd like to highlight. When I'm running out of time and space and funds, the only thing I allow myself to purchase is a "deal of a lifetime" - something like the widow next door selling her late husband's barn find '71 hemi Cuda for $1,500...

I'd offer her $1,000......

 

[bulletpruf]

I'd offer her $1,000......

Well, that's better than telling her that she's going to have to pay YOU $500 to haul off that worthless junk...

 

[Hellpig]

My shop is as bad. Probably worse.
And i brought home more " stuff" from an auction today...

 

[86turbodsl]

My shop is as bad. Probably worse.
And i brought home more " stuff" from an auction today...

Well now i need to see it...

 

[Hellpig]

Well now i need to see it...

It'll make you feel better about yourself.
But I'll feel worse about me, lol

 

[Strouty]

Don't worry Hellpig , once we see the pics, we will work hard trying to out do you...

 

[bulletpruf]

My shop is as bad. Probably worse.
And i brought home more " stuff" from an auction today...

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!!

 

[Hellpig]

You feel better now?
My shame is public.

1 of 4 spaces, rest as bad.

In all fairness, I have TOO many hobbies.
Cars, trapping, taxidermy, boats, tractors, hunting, fishing.

Hobbies that take a lot of gear/ equipment.

 

[Strouty]

That isn't too bad, I have worked in worse.

 

[86turbodsl]

We are brothers. I have too many hobbies also.

 

[Hellpig]

We are brothers. I have too many hobbies also.

No doubt!

I also have a lot of stuff "stored" outside, ie, sitting in fields.

One of my brothers called this morning and asked if I wanted a 6x10 dump trailer, saying he had " too many".

You KNOW I said, YUP!
He'll probably load it up with other good " stuff" before he drops it off

 

[bulletpruf]

No doubt!

I also have a lot of stuff "stored" outside, ie, sitting in fields.

One of my brothers called this morning and asked if I wanted a 6x10 dump trailer, saying he had " too many".

You KNOW I said, YUP!
He'll probably load it up with other good " stuff" before he drops it off

That's one of the nice things about living in a subdivision with an HOA -- I can't have derelict classic cars up on jackstands sitting in the front yard...

 

[Hellpig]

That's one of the nice things about living in a subdivision with an HOA -- I can't have derelict classic cars up on jackstands sitting in the front yard...

Mine are all out back, heehee.
Slowly returning to their base elements...

Besides, SOMEONE needs to serve as a bad example, might as well be me.

86turbodsl gets stuff done.
Randy gets TONS of stuff done.

Both, and many others here, help push me to do something, even if it's just a little bit, every day. Some have immaculate shops, and I appreciate it, even if it ain't me.
Others push on despite health issues, financial struggles, etc. Some make something out of nothing. Some are visionaries. Others crank out what can only be described as art.

I roll around in the dirt and gravel, wade through the junk/ mess of my own making, and try to do the best with what I have and my limited abilities.

Sometimes I'm frustrated, tired, angry.

But sometimes, every once in a while, things go right, and I'm left there grinning like an idiot, for reasons only I, and maybe some here, could ever understand.

And THAT is why we do it.

Thanks to ALL, everyone who shares here.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

 

[Chrisb62]

My shame is public.

No disrespect to anyone....the issue I notice is not the overwhelming amount of stuff but the overwhelming disarray of said stuff.
Organization allows you to find things faster and actually get more stuff in a smaller area..... saying that doesn’t mean it has to be the **** cleanliness of some shops......again no disrespect to anybody.

And as said before by many, first iteration does not mean it will be the last. My shop has been reorganized 4 times in the last 8 years because of additional purchases.

Best of luck to everyone.....the things talked about over the last few days means we are all using our work spaces....and want to continue using them.

 

[Bob Heine]

That's one of the nice things about living in a subdivision with an HOA -- I can't have derelict classic cars up on jackstands sitting in the front yard...

Scott, I can afford property taxes that are limited to 3% annual increases but I can't afford an HOA. Of course the city I live in is like HOA-lite. As long as you can't see it from the street, boats, cars and clotheslines are allowed.

 

[86turbodsl]

I live in the middle of nowhere precisely because I can't stand others telling me what I can and cannot do on property I pay for and pay taxes on. If you don't want to see it don't look is my motto

 

[86turbodsl]

Not to distract from the excellent discussions here, but the lawn mower is working great, if a little noisy on hydros. I also can't get the temp down much below 205F mowing. I suspect the radiator is just old and tired. I'll run it a while and see what happens. Also the gauges don't read worth a damn. No voltmeter at all, and temp is cutting in and out. When working, at 205.

 

[bimmer1980]

Good deal on the mower! Run it!!

Take that for a win. I'm sure there will be more challenges (opportunities) on the mower later, but take the win for the moment!

Is the grass all cut?

 

[86turbodsl]

I'm closing in on it. Started knocking down the really bad stuff around my shop. I'm going to tiptoe around there. also made my first barrel crimp on 06 hose. Seems pretty ok. I am going to start making hoses for the forklift now.

 

[86turbodsl]

Fricking mower thinks it's a bushhog. It's DESTROYING the tall grass.

 

[86turbodsl]

Annnd.... now that i'm ready to work on cleaning shop, we have 5 days straight of rain scheduled. Good thing i bought a bunch of weatherproof totes. Just need to fill and palletize.

 

[bimmer1980]

Good to hear the mower is destroying the grass!

I know you were also working on the larger forklift.... what's the current status on that?

While it ***** on the rain prospect, hopefully the clean up process makes a dent. Be aggressive about shoving stuff out the door to give you a better work space. It is worth it!!!

 

[kent_323is]

As you fill those totes, particularly if a bunch of random items go in them, I find it helpful to write on a piece of paper what went in there. Or use a sharpie on the outside of the tote. Later on when you're looking for that one random item, its nice to know which tote to look in and, which tote to NOT dig in. Make the writing visible to you as you put it up on the pallet racking. This saves so much time later!!!

 

[86turbodsl]

Good ideas. I had already planned on marking totes.

I just got done bolting most of the sheetmetal on the big forklift. The steering gear got all bolted up last night. Only thing left on it is bolt seat on, and run new hoses. Hoses look like a bit of a challenge. I wanted to run the hoses up around the steering gear for the cross over, but there's arms and linkages all over the place since it's a turned around backwards tractor. I am now thinking it might make sense to go under the belly, although i don't like that idea from a snag and a oil drip perspective. Gotta do a lot more thinking on it.

 

[bimmer1980]

Good progress. I would push for the most straightforward method of getting the hoses run on the forklift. If that is under the belly, great. Use plenty of zip ties to hold it in place. If you're planning to drive it over stuff that is going to snag the hoses off, I think you have bigger issues (tires, tipping hazard, etc). You have the crimper thing, so worse case, if you change your mind on the hoses, so be it. The important thing is to get the forklift operating again. Plus, you need the hoses hooked up to validate if the cylinder and steering actually work.

If anything, start routing the hoses in and see how it looks. With the hose routed in, then you can mark it for length and then put the fitting on.

When I did the auxiliary hoses on my excavator, I had to guestimate on the length and then order the hoses. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good... My hose length ended up to be nearly ideal. Had just enough of a service loop and room for the boom to flex. My actual plan ended up being slightly different than my plan in my head, but it worked out for the best. It was unbelievably tight on space to get all the hoses run past the valve body and around to get to the appropriate fitting. FYI--Swivel 90's help on orientation.

 

[86turbodsl]

Excavators are PITA. I watch Farmcraft101 on Youtube. He just did a bunch of that ****. Didn't look any fun at all.

the fittings i ordered are all straight, but i probably have some 90's JIC in the pile if i need it. I'm going out to look at routing now. I'll take some photos of what i'm thinking and post.

 

[86turbodsl]

Ok, i think i have a plan on hoses. I don't want to lose reference direction on the existing cylinder, because if i did mix them, i would bend everything into a pretzel. So am going to route the direction i know matches the one hose i took off, then i will take off the old cylinder to give me working room. Hoses will go through a tee straight to the valve on the valve side, the opposite side will cross under the tractor behind bellhousing as bend radius allows, keeping drippy oil pans off the hose. The hoses on the valve side will be secured using a custom bracket to hold the hoses in that position. A little more work than just letting it hang, but hose management can make or break an installation.

Also, i forgot about the valve to box pin connection, so i made that pin and installed it. We are connected mechanically in every way now. Just hoses and fittings remain.

 

[86turbodsl]

Here's the first hose ready to crimp and after crimping.

 

[racer-john]

Here's the first hose ready to crimp and after crimping.

No pics.

 

[86turbodsl]

It's the process. Check it again. I post, then i add pics.

 

[86turbodsl]

I'm not a super huge fan of barrel field crimps, but it looks like i got the machine dialed in pretty close. Maybe someday the *bay will have a 3/8 die show up on it. For right now, i have 1/4 and 1/2 flat field and 3/16 to 1/2 barrel die. it'll work for now. As bimmer said, i can always make new hoses.

This first hose took about 5 mins to make. It saved me a 40 mile round trip at least 1x to get the right length. If i have oriented fittings, it saves me 2 trips. Really looking forward to making more hoses around here.

Also drained the gas tank and getting it ready for fresh gas. I also think the battery is flat. We're probably into tomorrow for first fire at this point, assuming i keep moving tonight.