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... this takes me back. I was more of a converse guy myself. Back when they were cheap and weren't popular with the kool kids.
 
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Even a little progress is progress in my book. :D

I finished one side of the door rail mount using a Model A Ford fender iron. It's weird looking but it's stout and it does what it's supposed to. It needs another bolt to be done-done.






I haven't messed with the other side yet. It's a different set-up with how it will mount. It'll take some brainstorming once I'm over there.

No real progress on the ceiling other than cutting panels down to size. I just didn't have much time, this weekend.



I cut through seven sheets at once. The HF saw wasn't happy but it did it. Man, I'll be happy to see that thing leave the shop.






I did match the hose and cable ends so they're the same length after the stop.



I'm looking forward to getting the ceiling done. I spent a little time planning how a few cuts need to be made and how I'll lay things out. It'll be a big milestone to have that done.
 
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wow what a transformation. Just read all 23 pages today, a lot of hard work and it looks great. Nice job.

Wow, thank you. That's quite a commitment to go through 20+ pages. I do appreciate it. Thanks for the compliments, too.

I've got a few more things, coming up, that I'm pretty excited about. I designed some corner brackets for my bookshelf speakers, which accept rear mounts. I need to send the info off to my buddy with the plasma table. On the other end of the stereo system I needed a better place to sit the tuner. I searched the Internet for a side shelf that mounts to my toolbox that would accommodate the size of the receiver but the only one I found (with like dimensions) is discontinued. So, that will be something to be fabricated, as well.
 
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Great job! - I like how you're paying attention to the little details.

Thanks. Sometimes I get hung up on the details but this has been a good project for me to relax a bit and not get consumed by. I'm just having fun with (and not stressing on) the little stuff, which, to me, are the parts that really complete a space.

An aside note for those still reading along. I've been looking at what else could go from the garage to free up some space. The side box that is with the the three tool box stacks is going into the attic or being sold. Plus, I'm contemplating getting rid of a tool box stack but I'd have to get really organized with my tools because I'd be at or beyond the limit with my tools.

If you have experience with paring down or minimizing your garage contents, I'd love to hear from you.

I'm thinking a project I want to tackle after all the ceiling is done and the boxes are back in place is that I'm going to spend a few days completely organizing my tools.
 
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Feeling pretty worn out after the weekend but it’s worth it because noticeable progress has been made.

I cannot check off any specific project but I’m at the point (of the items I’ve been focusing on) where what’s left is the “easy” stuff.

The garage door is now solidly/permanently hung for the first time since early June 2016.



This is the other Model A ford Fender iron of the pair. It took some creative guessing and trial and error because a tape measure only gets you close. Once you start heating and bending metal the numbers are out the window.



I’m at the point where using scrap or, perhaps better said, what’s around than getting nickel and dimed or (worse) wasting time looking for parts that will fit my needs. So, I found a piece of ply and made something that would work. Actually, I really like the look of exposed edge plywood projects. So, this is neat, too me.

I looked for the wood glue but it was not where it should be. Instead, I used the last of my epoxy. Like I said, I’m trying to limit the nickel and diming.



I trimmed it to match the shape of the mounting surface. It’ll never be noticed other than these pics. Haha.




I softened the edges with the sander and sprayed some sealer on it. I'm pretty sure the bolts are Model A shackle bolts. No hardware is wasted around here. :lol:



It’s an odd angle but this is what it looks like from the back side. It’s one little item in the shop that adds some personality. It’s one of those things that took longer than anyone would realize.

In-between letting the door rail mount cool or the spacer setting/drying, I did a little fun project. I have a bunch of vintage license plates on the wall and each of them has a vintage, unique or rare tag topper on it. I’ve had this one for a bunch of years and never painted or mounted it. Today was a good day to do so.



I went to the cabinet and found some spray paint. I shot the casting with some carb cleaner first and after it evaporated, I put a few coats of paint. This is just after I sprayed some paint on. It’s wet, which is why it looks bumpy. It was a gorgeous day and the sunshine helped speed the drying along.



After two coats of paint and some time in the sun. I sanded the raised portions, drilled a hole, aged the screw head and put it on the only Canadian plate I have in my pile. Jeff Norwell is a Canadian so I found it fitting. Look him up if you’ve never heard of him. His artwork is right up any hot rodder’s alley. He’s got an awesome collection of hot rods, as well.
 
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Next up was getting the ceiling finished. I assumed it would have gone as smoothly as the first session. I was wrong. It was a fight from one side to the other.



First fight was this piece. At first I made the cuts to one piece but there was no way I was fitting it in whole. So, I trimmed that piece up and put it in. Looking at this pic, it’s actually obvious to me how I could’ve done it different that wouldn’t lead to a headache later. You can actually see where it’s a bit off. That didn’t show up until the section that attaches to the other section.

What's funny/odd/interesting is that you can see it in this pic but not from the floor.



For the folks curious as to how this one-man-band works.





Laying out the light holes has become pretty simple. All I do it find two locating measurements and plot them. Then I use the hole saw as a template.

Once I passed the attic door and it became apparent I either had to tear the work I’ve done down or figure out how to get the sides to line up – I stopped taking pictures. Haha. I chose NOT to tear the work down. The down side is there is one Frakenstein piece. The upside is that it doesn’t really matter. This corrugated steel is worn and now it matches the barn roof steel a bit better. Truthfully, only certain people would ever notice. Most of them are here, reading, and if I were creative with photos it wouldn’t likely be seen.

Anyway, you want to know how to match up corrugated panels that aren’t in line? It’s not all that difficult. You stretch it by flattening the raised sections to where it widens. In this case I flattened the corner near the attic door and it gave me the 3/8” or so I needed to match up to the new/old pieces.

The “Frankesteining” is really due to all the screws I put in to make the panels tight to one another.



Here’s from the garage door side looking down to the end I worked on.



This is from the newest section looking toward the garage door.



This is how the trim sits on the corrugated. This close up shows the side of the can but mostly they can’t be seen. I’m 6’3” and I can barely tell from most viewpoints.



This is what’s left. I’m going to do this length in shorter pieces. That way if I ever need to get into this area I don’t need to pull long length down. And, it’s much easier to put 4’ pieces up than 6’, 8’ or 14’ers.

I should also mention, I got my last two 4’ LED lights up. The lighting increase is to the point where it’s nearly too bright (over 7k lumens a piece). It’ll be perfect for working on the cars. This little place had three light bulbs in it a year ago.
 

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The lighting increase is to the point where it’s nearly too bright

#1, You can never have enough light, nearly or otherwise.
#2, I don't see any lights hanging from the walls 3' off the ground :dunno:
#3, I don't see any up lights embedded in the concrete :dunno:

You, my friend, need more light fixtures! ;)

Looking good Brent!! :thumbup:
 

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Great progress Brent. I love how that tag topper came out. I have never seen one of those before. I bet it feels good to be buttoning up the ceiling. You will be working on projects in the finished garage real soon.

Bret
 

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Brent,

Great work my friend! The place is really shaping up. I'm with Dan, you can never too much light in the shop. You will be loving it when the inevitable happens and a bolt hits the floor and you can see where it went.

Plus, as a card carrying member of IHFDC (I Hate Finishing Drywall Club) the use of metal is perfect! :thumbup:

Cheers,
Chris

PS. Yes, the LC is a frame up kinda project. I'm thinking Spring 2018 for it's debut. But, we are meeting my Brother-in-law out there in early fall and will probably rent something. As dates are finalized I'll keep you in the loop.
 

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#1, You can never have enough light, nearly or otherwise.
#2, I don't see any lights hanging from the walls 3' off the ground :dunno:
#3, I don't see any up lights embedded in the concrete :dunno:

You, my friend, need more light fixtures! ;)

Looking good Brent!! :thumbup:

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I don't know many other people as crazy as I am for putting lights in the floor, lots of work!

Brent,
The barn tin looks great and is something you should be very proud of, my hat is off to you. Keep at it and make sure you keep posting when you start to work on the vehicles again.
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Thanks, Tyberius! I do appreciate it. It's nice to share the work with y'all after being frustrated for half the day and have people "get it." So, thanks again.

#1, You can never have enough light, nearly or otherwise.
#2, I don't see any lights hanging from the walls 3' off the ground :dunno:
#3, I don't see any up lights embedded in the concrete :dunno:

You, my friend, need more light fixtures! ;)

Looking good Brent!! :thumbup:

I'll polish the floor before I put in another light bulb!:lol: I went out there and just flipped on the main lights (with no others on) and when they came on I was still surprised at how bright it is in there from just 4 of these lights. They're more expensive than your typical 4' LED light but, holy hell, talk about light!

And, Dan, if I come across any more light fixtures, I think I'll be sending them your way!

Thanks, buddy, I appreciate you. :beer:

Great progress Brent. I love how that tag topper came out. I have never seen one of those before. I bet it feels good to be buttoning up the ceiling. You will be working on projects in the finished garage real soon.

Bret

Bret, "feels good" is an understatement. There still is a little left with the one strip and under the lofted shelves but what has me excited it selling off the surplus and getting my yard back! Sounds odd, I know, but I'm tired of the Sanford and Son vibe in my yard.

It will be really nice to spend a couple hours out there and tinkering with the stuff I am truly passionate about in a space that is fun to be in. Plus, I'm looking forward to having a clean space my kids and wife can hang out in. None of them realize how eager I am for those moments.

Brent,

Great work my friend! The place is really shaping up. I'm with Dan, you can never too much light in the shop. You will be loving it when the inevitable happens and a bolt hits the floor and you can see where it went.

Plus, as a card carrying member of IHFDC (I Hate Finishing Drywall Club) the use of metal is perfect! :thumbup:

Cheers,
Chris

PS. Yes, the LC is a frame up kinda project. I'm thinking Spring 2018 for it's debut. But, we are meeting my Brother-in-law out there in early fall and will probably rent something. As dates are finalized I'll keep you in the loop.

Thanks, Chris. As someone with skills I look up to here on The GJ, I appreciate the recognition.

A fall wheeling trip sound like fun. Definitely keep me in the loop. I'd love to hear the plans for the Cruiser. I've got a buddy with a pretty rad cruiser, too. They're one of the only vehicles that I'd consider not owning a truck forowning instead of a truck.

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I don't know many other people as crazy as I am for putting lights in the floor, lots of work!

Brent,
The barn tin looks great and is something you should be very proud of, my hat is off to you. Keep at it and make sure you keep posting when you start to work on the vehicles again.
JB

Yeah, I am not that crazy! However, there are a couple items you've done that are inspiring, that inset tool box being one of them. The others are how to warm paint or moisturize your face with essential oils. :lol:

Thanks for the compliment on the barn tin, I truly appreciate it. There are a bit of updates before I get to a vehicle project but, for sure, I'll post up the progress here.
 
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Yeah, I am not that crazy! However, there are a couple items you've done that are inspiring, that inset tool box being one of them. The others are how to warm paint or moisturize your face with essential oils. :lol:

OMG, I almost backflushed my nose with coffee!!!!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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Yeah, I am not that crazy! However, there are a couple items you've done that are inspiring, that inset tool box being one of them. The others are how to warm paint or moisturize your face with essential oils.

Thanks for the compliment on the barn tin, I truly appreciate it. There are a bit of updates before I get to a vehicle project but, for sure, I'll post up the progress here.

OMG, I almost backflushed my nose with coffee!!!!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I had just finished a sip before reading that but they could hear me down the hall laughing. :lol_hitti
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I spent a couple hours, last night, getting some corrugated up on that last strip. My plan was to put shorter pieces up there so that if I ever needed access, I could pull down a piece easily. Had I not made some mistakes, I would’ve finished.



I put two 6’ sheets down and cut the strips, at once. The plan wasto rip the sheets to size and then cut the 6’ lengths into manageable size. Four strips totaling 24’ should’ve been enough but, like I said, I made a few errors. I’m usually on point when it comes to measuring and cutting but last night I wasn’t. So, I’m 44” short of finishing. So, instead of having 30” of material beyond the ceiling length of 21.5’ to make it all overlap and play nice I’ve got to cut into another panel. I hate waste, especially knowing it’s preventable.

I find myself making simple mistakes on days that I’ve really got to put a lot of mental effort in at work. By quitting time I was frazzled from a transferred-in project that tested me for most of the day. Usually the ride home, dinner, and spending some time with the family gets me righted enough to get out there and get something accomplished. But, last night, I was uncharacteristically error prone. I’m not making excuses – it’s just what is so.

Anyway, I pushed through and salvaged the pieces. Luckily, any mistake I made happened to be in a section I could trim away, leaving a still-workable piece.



None of the pieces are fastened completely. I wanted to get all of the notches done and pieces fit up before running all the screws in.



Here’s the last section to be knocked out, hopefully tonight. After that, it’s onto the sections under the shelves. My plan is to cut all the pieces and set them aside. I’d like get reorganized and make both bays open and available to work in. This, in part, is part of overcoming my bad habit of working in this garage when it’s a mess. The weekend is calling for rain, so that would be a good time to get the pieces hung and if they’re already cut, I don’t need to jockey around vehicles and such.

Full disclosure - this is the mess that is taking up the bay:



I’m really over moving stuff out of the way and tripping over it. There’s only one more time I’ll have to move everything, it’s when I densify the floor. It’s something that really needs to be addressed since the dust is never ending.



Here’s the ceiling box and the blank cover I modified for the lights on the ceiling. I hadn't posted it before.

More progress soon. Thanks for checking in.

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I’m really over moving stuff out of the way and tripping over it. There’s only one more time I’ll have to move everything, it’s when I densify the floor. It’s something that really needs to be addressed since the dust is never ending.

SING THE GOSPEL BROTHER BRENT!!!!

I think that is a side effect of the chronic garage syndrome that we all have to suffer through before we build our heaven... (Anywho on the biblical stuff :dunno: )

Really dig the Sheeting. I never would have thought old Corrugated (as in the case of yours) and the reclaimed Wood Roofs and walls (of all others as well) could ever look so good... Its got me thinking of what could be done with my little pile rusting away behind the shed... Oh and btw its the little quirks that truly make them our little spaces
 

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Brent pretty soon that mess in the middle will be no longer!

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SING THE GOSPEL BROTHER BRENT!!!!

I think that is a side effect of the chronic garage syndrome that we all have to suffer through before we build our heaven... (Anywho on the biblical stuff :dunno: )

Really dig the Sheeting. I never would have thought old Corrugated (as in the case of yours) and the reclaimed Wood Roofs and walls (of all others as well) could ever look so good... Its got me thinking of what could be done with my little pile rusting away behind the shed... Oh and btw its the little quirks that truly make them our little spaces

Thanks, Knyte Tyne. I've wanted to use these materials in projects over the years but never had the opportunity. This stuff is vastly different than the materials that allow for tighter tolerances that I'm used to. It reminds me of the guy or girl that spends an inordinate amount of time trying to style their look appear like they didn't spend much time at all.

In some aspects working with the older, rougher tin was easier. I had to give up looking for tightly fitted seams and overlaps but still I wanted to fit it as best as I could. There were times I spent too much time on a piece and finally said, "I'll fix that with a screw, later" or "that's as good as it's going to get."

So, when I made a mistake with the newer panels (which I had found myself going to my natural way of thinking where "everything needs to be perfect") it was easier to step back and look for a solution like I did with those much older panels I had been playing with.

As far as the reclaimed wood, I'm really happy to see it up on the walls but that may have been the most tedious project in this garage, so far. Ripping the pieces down to a few equal sizes was the best choice I made. It got rid of the slow process of going at it like a puzzle. When you see pictures of such projects online, know that it's a pain in the @ss and most people will never admit it. Now that it's been out of the weather for a while, the gaps are a bit wider. It can't be seen from the floor but if I were to do a wall that was at eye level, I'd prep every board from the beginning. That would add a lot of extra work to the project so using a better type of wood is the smarter option - for me anyway.

Brent pretty soon that mess in the middle will be no longer!

Bret

Not sure, Bret. That mess is about to be replaced with the exploded view of a 1940 era hot rod. :3gears:
 
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The final piece of the ceiling is in and I can check this project off the list. It’s got its share of imperfections but, overall, I am happy. The above pic is when I put the final panel up with just one screw holding it in, almost calling it a night and heading in to hang out with my wife for a bit. But, she was exercising and that left me a little more time to get it completed.



After a couple minutes I had every panel fastened. This pic shows the seams but if you take a step to the right, they pretty much blend in. Also, that seam to the right of the pic needs a screw or two to tighten the panel’s edge. It’s a little thing you notice – after the fact.





Also, I cut all the pieces for under the shelves since it’s going to be non-stop rain from tomorrow night through the weekend.



Here’s what’s left of my cut-off wheel. It was new when I started and after doing both ceilings it’s pretty much used up. I have one or two more cuts left, thankfully.
 

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The final piece of the ceiling is in and I can check this project off the list. It’s got its share of imperfections but, overall, I am happy. The above pic is when I put the final panel up with just one screw holding it in, almost calling it a night and heading in to hang out with my wife for a bit. But, she was exercising and that left me a little more time to get it completed.







After a couple minutes I had every panel fastened. This pic shows the seams but if you take a step to the right, they pretty much blend in. Also, that seam to the right of the pic needs a screw or two to tighten the panel’s edge. It’s a little thing you notice – after the fact.











Also, I cut all the pieces for under the shelves since it’s going to be non-stop rain from tomorrow night through the weekend.







Here’s what’s left of my cut-off wheel. It was new when I started and after doing both ceilings it’s pretty much used up. I have one or two more cuts left, thankfully.



When I cut tin lengthwise I use a razor and score the tin and just snap the tin, the same way you would cut glass. It's faster and no mess.
 
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When I cut tin lengthwise I use a razor and score the tin and just snap the tin, the same way you would cut glass. It's faster and no mess.

Really? I'm going to give that a try. I've never heard of that before.
 

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BRENT: nice work on that ceiling. I also am curious if that scoring and snapping works in case i quit passing on all the tin rusted roofing i see and use some on a project.

keep up the progress cause you have been going great since you started this thread. is it the thread that keeps you motivated or was it just that time in your life that you were planning on doing all this?

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BRENT: is it the thread that keeps you motivated or was it just that time in your life that you were planning on doing all this?

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Thanks, Drives.

As far as motivation, I'd say I'm the type of person that is pretty internally motivated in most aspects of my life. So, when it comes to a longer-term project like the shop or the 18 months I spent renovating our home (which is at a higher level of quality than this space, for sure) I just get after it even when I really don't want to. I'm not all that fast since 99% of this work has been solitary but effort leads to results over time.

Truthfully, I didn't originally want to make a thread but topics would pop up and I was sharing and a few folks suggested/requested I make one of my own. Since doing it, I have had some extra motivation through sharing and discussion but at the end of the day it's getting out there and checking things off the list. As well, I've made a few online friends that I could see myself being buddies with outside the GJ.

So, looking back, I'm glad to have this thread. A few times I've clicked on a random page and it reminded me of how far I have come. It will be ten months of work on Monday. That's crazy.
 

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Brent, I don't know how I missed this thread but WOW!! Just WOW!! Absolutely fantastic work on the remodel of your shop.

I love the fender struts for your door rails, love how you dropped your air reel/air lines down through the ceiling and I am so jealous of your Rat Fink thermometer. I love it all.

Great job.:bowdown:

Mike.
 
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Brent, I don't know how I missed this thread but WOW!! Just WOW!! Absolutely fantastic work on the remodel of your shop.

I love the fender struts for your door rails, love how you dropped your air reel/air lines down through the ceiling and I am so jealous of your Rat Fink thermometer. I love it all.

Great job.:bowdown:

Mike.

Hey Mike, that's a huge complement coming from a guy with incredible fab skills and a shop I could only dream of. I do appreciate it, for sure.
 
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Knocked out a little more finish work.



Pulled the audio wire put a few staples in.



Put a box in place and pulled the audio wire up and out.



Then, J-channel, corrugated put in place, and then the baffles.

I did some clean up and organizing but not enough to be picture worthy. Maybe tomorrow?


Edit: Oh... and I also tried scoring and breaking the corrugated. It works! You really have to run the score with some effort to get it to where it will bend/break.
 
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Even though there are a few areas I'm going to give attention to (some screws in the high ceiling area, a couple rivets to pop in, and a baffle trim to buy and install) I'm calling the ceiling DONE. I got the last panel in (above the tool boxes) and in looking around everything else the shop, it's all relatively easy in comparison. That's a great feeling.



I cleaned up the corner and got some stuff put where it belongs. I swapped a toolbox stack in place of the bench-grinder box.



I still have a problem.



Seriously. :dunno::lol:
 

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I probably have the equivalent amount of mess on my bench right now, but its only one layer instead of four! :lol_hitti

Is that a railroad track anvil I see there on the floor? Did you shape that bad boy yourself? I just found a 2' chunk in my Dad's scrap pile this weekend and set it aside for a future DIY anvil project. He has an actual anvil, so I'm sure he won't mind if I ask to take it off his hands (although, I'd better do it before scrap goes back up or he might charge me a case of beer for it).
 
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I probably have the equivalent amount of mess on my bench right now, but its only one layer instead of four! :lol_hitti

Is that a railroad track anvil I see there on the floor? Did you shape that bad boy yourself? I just found a 2' chunk in my Dad's scrap pile this weekend and set it aside for a future DIY anvil project. He has an actual anvil, so I'm sure he won't mind if I ask to take it off his hands (although, I'd better do it before scrap goes back up or he might charge me a case of beer for it).

See, and you have a bowling lane length of bench! I'd have to take out all my tools to fill that thing. :D

It is made from RR track. I looked for a real anvil for a while but they were either scooped up quickly or way out of my price range. I got this piece of track from a local guy I met through the HAMB and I cut it into a shape I liked. it took me a while with the tools I had but I persevered.

Now, I'm glad I didn't buy an anvil. I don't use it a ton but it's been really handy whenever I do and it doesn't take up much space. I have a bunch of pics from the day I fabbed it; I should dig them out.
 
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I had been curious about the white corrosion on the panels when I started pulling them out of the stack I had put them in to last fall.



Here's an example of what I'm talking about.

Some sheets had some really thick, white corrosion on them. Some of that corrosion even had specs of rust in it. Because I was aging the panels, I got most of the heavy corrosion off.

I hadn't looked into the science of why it was there or even what it was but my curiosity eventually gets me looking for the answer. It's partially why I am one of those people with lots of useless knowledge floating around. Haha.

Recently, I was chatting with my brother, who's working in sheet metal fabrication as part of his apprenticeship. I mentioned it to him and again I was curious to look into it. This time I had no projects or children in front of me so I could take some time to read up on it.

Easily, I discovered it's called "wet storage stain" and that makes sense because it sat at the end of my driveway, under snow, for most of the winter.

As well, I read about another term "white rust" mistakenly put in place of wet storage stain. After reading about white rust, I was more convinced that, while similar, it was more a wet storage issue.

Anyway, not at all an update but I found it interesting. I included a decent link to the explanation (see underlined term above).

I plan on knocking out a few little things, tonight. I'll update when I'm done. Hope all is well you all.
 
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The leftover corrugated metal has been sold thanks to our local classifieds. The Harbor Freight circular saw was given away, too. It feels good to be cleaning up and getting things moved out of the shop (and yard). Soon my yard and driveway will be back to normal. I'm looking forward to that as much (maybe even more on this fine spring day) as having the shop done.
 
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