A Humble Aussie Shed Build

[Danshell]

Here is the blade I bought. On the evolution website it says 5000 rpm, however when you click on the link it takes you to the total tools website that says 3900 rpm.

185MM MULTI-MATERIAL CUTTING BLADE

https://www.evolutionpowertools.com/au/group/blades/

I can confirm that this must be a typo because the actual blade on the shelf is the same specs as the evolution website. Or at least that was the case i n my local store.

 

[Geoff289]

Here is the blade I bought. On the evolution website it says 5000 rpm, however when you click on the link it takes you to the total tools website that says 3900 rpm.

185MM MULTI-MATERIAL CUTTING BLADE

https://www.evolutionpowertools.com/au/group/blades/

I can confirm that this must be a typo because the actual blade on the shelf is the same specs as the evolution website. Or at least that was the case i n my local store.

Yeah that's a bit confusing. Looks like the same blade is what comes fitted to the hand held saw you have and that saw runs at 3,900 unloaded so I guess the story is that the blade is good for a max of 5,000 but the saw only needs 3,900 to do the job. Anyway, the old saw I was hoping to put one on takes a 165 mm blade so I might just get the Evolution saw. It will do most of what I need to do.

 

[Ralf99]

Yes, it is based on tooth speed as you say - the smaller blade runs faster to get a similar lineal tooth speed.
Be aware though these are multipurpose multi-material blades, and the maximum speed rating is for the limitation of the carbide tips disintegrating and flinging off rather than the correct cutting speed for a given material.

 

[Ralf99]

You can get non-ferrous metal cutting blades in 165mm - no idea of max RpM but they work well in aluminium sheet on battery saws.

EDIT:
The 165mm blades I was thinking of are actually rated for ferrous metals.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/diablo-...on-ferrous-metals-circular-saw-blade_p6370900

There are a couple of options for non-ferrous as well.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/irwin-1...n-pro-performance-circular-saw-blade_p0172638

 

[Danshell]

You can get non-ferrous metal cutting blades in 165mm - no idea of max RpM but they work well in aluminium sheet on battery saws.

EDIT:
The 165mm blades I was thinking of are actually rated for ferrous metals.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/diablo-...on-ferrous-metals-circular-saw-blade_p6370900

There are a couple of options for non-ferrous as well.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/irwin-1...n-pro-performance-circular-saw-blade_p0172638

It looks like all the smaller 160mm blades that are rated for mild steel, stainless etc rev a lot higher which would also confirm the traveling speed of the teeth being the crucial factor here.

 

[Danshell]

I jumped on an online calculator just for curiosity sake and based on Evolutions machines specs and blade diameters here are the results.....

355mm blade @ 1450 rpm = 1600 m/min
255mm blade @ 2500 rpm = 2000 m/min
185mm blade @ 3900 rpm = 2200 m/min

Nearly all the other brand blades of equal size allow a higher rpm or higher m/min so I will go out on a limb here (usual disclaimers apply) and say that there is a bit of a fudge factor built into these figures.

And I have proved it in regards to a safety aspect, as my saw is spinning at 5000 rpm using the 185mm blade which is 2900 m/min and it was brilliant. As for the longevity of the blade at that speed vs a slower speed I will never know, but Id say that is the downfall of using a sightly higher m/min.

I would never exceed the recommended RPM that is written on a blade though. Im not keen on having a broken circular saw blade removed from a body part

 

[Bob Heine]

I jumped on an online calculator just for curiosity sake and based on Evolutions machines specs and blade diameters here are the results.....

355mm blade @ 1450 rpm = 1600 m/min
255mm blade @ 2500 rpm = 2000 m/min
185mm blade @ 3900 rpm = 2200 m/min

Nearly all the other brand blades of equal size allow a higher rpm or higher m/min so I will go out on a limb here (usual disclaimers apply) and say that there is a bit of a fudge factor built into these figures.

And I have proved it in regards to a safety aspect, as my saw is spinning at 5000 rpm using the 185mm blade which is 2900 m/min and it was brilliant. As for the longevity of the blade at that speed vs a slower speed I will never know, but Id say that is the downfall of using a sightly higher m/min.

I would never exceed the recommended RPM that is written on a blade though. Im not keen on having a broken circular saw blade removed from a body part

I'm with you 100%. I commented about the slow speed of real cold saws because I almost made a big mistake looking for a steel chop saw. I thought I could buy a cheap abrasive wheel model and swap the carbide-tipped blade for the abrasive one. The one I almost bought had a spindle speed of 4,000rpm. With a 14-inch (355mm) blade that means the tips of the blade are moving at 4400 m/min. I avoided a big mistake when I tried to order the carbide steel cutting blade at the same time and it specified a maximum speed of 1600rpm. It was a no-brainer when I found the Rage2 for $200 because it included the $88 blade. If I ever get back to working on the old Corvette I may have to invest in a Stainless cutting blade.

 

[Danshell]

With the working week coming to an end I had the opportunity to resume the young fellas Tool Trailer.

I continued on bracing the ends in preparation for the sheeting. The rear had some extra bracing because I need it to be strong enough to hold the spare wheel in its carrier.

I also got the tailgate and doors framed up. The doors framing is a little bit unique because I needed to accommodate the rubber seal system we are going to use. More on that when the time comes.

I sheeted the doors, ends and tailgate. They are very rigid with the sheeting on them acting as a laminate.

I did tack one of the doors hinges in place late last night. They have gas struts that I will fit today.

And finally the door bracing from the inside. Poor quality phone pics as usual!

Today I hope to get it finished. Or at least the building part of it finished. Im not sure how far Ill get with the painting but I am hoping to at least get the whole thing primed and the underside and inside painted.

Ill do the final external finishing during the week if I get time, otherwise he will have to wait another weekend. But 4-5 days from start to finish for one of these things is probably about right given it is a one off custom.

 

[Geoff289]

Wish I could do that!

 

[Danshell]

Wish I could do that!

Pretty easy stuff really mate.

Just cut it out, square it up and weld it together. Get the younger son to do all the glueing and sealing and its done

 

[cortina64]

Great work on the trailer build, your son will enjoy using it.
Warren

 

[Danshell]

Great work on the trailer build, your son will enjoy using it.
Warren

Thanks for dropping in Warren, he will enjoy it.

We wasted too much time yesterday with a gas strut issue. The ones I bought were just not rated to hold the doors up.
When I bought them I told the supplier what we were doing with them and he gave me 300NM struts so I was convinced they would be ok but regardless of the mounting we couldn't get them to hold the doors up all the way.

So the young bloke went down to the local Bunnings and bought a pair that were 500NM and after messing around with different mounting points they too wouldn't quite hold the doors all the way up!!

So back to Bunnings to swap them for a pair of 600NM! Finally they held the doors up. They pop the doors open a little bit aggressively for my liking,
we did mount them in a position to eliminate this a bit which helped but the young bloke said that wont be an issue.

In hind sight, we needed a different length but in a lower NM. That would have been the perfect combination. But we are limited down here for choice unfortunately.

Anyway it all worked out in the end but we didnt get the trailer finished.

Doors are on, tailgate is one, 99% of the welding is done.

I need to spend a bit of time flicking some of the weld spatter off the sheeting, tiding up some of the tacks and edges with a flap disc, putting the coupling on, putting the end wings on to hold the tail lights and tie down pipe, welding on some other tie down points, the young bloke can then seal up all the sheeting edges with sikeflex and then it can be painted.

I also managed to nick my thumb with a 1mm cut off disc It looks like nothing in this pic, but it was a pretty decent scratch.
I know better than to hold a piece of steel with one hand will cutting the corner off it with the other..........

To be continued.

 

[Geoff289]

You know there is a formula for figuring out gas struts don't you?

E.G. https://www.gasstrutaustralia.com.au/help-centre/which-gas-strut-do-i-need/

There is also a formula for figuring out whether its a good idea to hold things you are trying to cut with an angle grinder. You multiply your pain threshold by your embarrassment index and then apply the square root of that to the cost of hospital treatment. If the result exceeds zero, don't do it.

Trailer looks great, thumb not so much.

 

[hewey]

That trailer is looking great, but try and keep your fingers otherwise we'll miss your updates!

 

[Bob Heine]

I also managed to nick my thumb with a 1mm cut off disc It looks like nothing in this pic, but it was a pretty decent scratch.
I know better than to hold a piece of steel with one hand will cutting the corner off it with the other..........

To be continued.

That is a very impressive tradesman trailer. It will be an excellent advertisement for your son's new venture, with or without signage.

The deck is a great addition but the view would be a constant distraction for me.

That left thumb thing is one of the few problems I've solved (maybe not the best solution).

 

[Danshell]

Thanks for the comments gents. The thumb is ok, a little tender of course but otherwise itll make a full recovery

Yesterday before work I fabricated some 'outriggers' to mount the tail lights and to also give the tie down bar a place to attach too.
I also fitted the handles/locks to the doors. Im going to put a heavy duty tab on each door to take a padlock as well. And I etch primed the inside.

Now I have a little dilemma as to what to get myself for my 50th birthday.

I was about to bite the bullet and buy a Halfco Lathe. But as usual my better half (the one who makes the best decisions as a rule....she is far more cautious and reserved than myself!) has put the question to me, "how much use will you get out of it"?

And the honest answer to that, is not a lot really. Id probably get more use out of a milling machine but even that is very limited.

So, I am now debating if I should upgrade some of the workshop tools that I use a lot of.

I have a real cheap and nasty supercheap auto drill press, grinder, and sander/linisher machines that I use regularly enough to warrant buying better quality replacements.
The problem there is that they all work just fine and have all done everything I have ever asked of them. So they dont see a massive amount of use, but perhaps more than Id ever use a lathe or mill.

Arrrgh..........imagine not knowing what to spend money on!! What would you blokes do??

 

[Coolabah]

Thanks for the comments gents. The thumb is ok, a little tender of course but otherwise itll make a full recovery

Yesterday before work I fabricated some 'outriggers' to mount the tail lights and to also give the tie down bar a place to attach too.
I also fitted the handles/locks to the doors. Im going to put a heavy duty tab on each door to take a padlock as well. And I etch primed the inside.

Now I have a little dilemma as to what to get myself for my 50th birthday.

I was about to bite the bullet and buy a Halfco Lathe. But as usual my better half (the one who makes the best decisions as a rule....she is far more cautious and reserved than myself!) has put the question to me, "how much use will you get out of it"?

And the honest answer to that, is not a lot really. Id probably get more use out of a milling machine but even that is very limited.

So, I am now debating if I should upgrade some of the workshop tools that I use a lot of.

I have a real cheap and nasty supercheap auto drill press, grinder, and sander/linisher machines that I use regularly enough to warrant buying better quality replacements.
The problem there is that they all work just fine and have all done everything I have ever asked of them. So they dont see a massive amount of use, but perhaps more than Id ever use a lathe or mill.

Arrrgh..........imagine not knowing what to spend money on!! What would you blokes do??

Mate, I feel your pain......
I am not a pro so tend to look at mid-range for new equipment purchases eg Taiwan rather than China (cheaper) or US/Germany/etc ( more expensive)
I tend to buy better quality stuff -not necessarily top of the line but "better" depending on need, use and budget- for the tools I use a lot - eg recently my 20 year old 1/3 sheet Bosch (very expensive back then ) orbital sander finally bit the dust ( too obvious a joke ?) so replaced it with mid-range Makita rather than Ozito etc ..
I really think , if it were me , I would take a long hard look at the stuff I use most- if you are forever spending time working around that drill press ( mate , that is the most loved and used machine in my shed !) then I wouldn't hesitate to go big and splurge if possible on a much better one.
Having said that , I am not true to my word because I indeed have , in moments of excess funds, bought tools/machines which I use very rarely- but are fun/useful etc to own.
Yeh.... I haven't helped , have I ?

 

[cros13]

trailer looks great! cant wait to see it all finished and painted!

Rudi.

 

[Bob Heine]

With the size of your property I would invest in battery-powered tools. This would be a perfect time to pick a brand that has high ratings, a broad range of tools and a track record of support (not changing battery design weekly). Donate any current battery-powered tools, which don't match the above criteria, to your son.

 

[Terrick down Under]

Most of the Tradie trailers that I do, get a coat of Ryno liner underneath. It works really well

 

[Danshell]

Mate, I feel your pain......
I am not a pro so tend to look at mid-range for new equipment purchases eg Taiwan rather than China (cheaper) or US/Germany/etc ( more expensive)
I tend to buy better quality stuff -not necessarily top of the line but "better" depending on need, use and budget- for the tools I use a lot - eg recently my 20 year old 1/3 sheet Bosch (very expensive back then ) orbital sander finally bit the dust ( too obvious a joke ?) so replaced it with mid-range Makita rather than Ozito etc ..
I really think , if it were me , I would take a long hard look at the stuff I use most- if you are forever spending time working around that drill press ( mate , that is the most loved and used machine in my shed !) then I wouldn't hesitate to go big and splurge if possible on a much better one.
Having said that , I am not true to my word because I indeed have , in moments of excess funds, bought tools/machines which I use very rarely- but are fun/useful etc to own.
Yeh.... I haven't helped , have I ?

lol no mate you havent helped, you have only pointed out that your thinking process is pretty much like mine!
All my trade tools are Rupes. All my handy man tools are middle of the range AEG, Ryobi, etc.
Anything I have bought as a one off tool is usually cheap junk like an Ozito
Same with the bigger ticket items. My mig welder is decent quality yet my AC Tig welder is a Chinese Mitech brand.
The TIG is now around 13 years old and still works the same as the day I bought it.
My larger Compressor is a Mcmillian and I have a smaller 'back up' compressor that is an $80 Chinese thing.

I am leaning towards a decent drill press though as that will allow some funds to upgrade some other items. Although I am liking the idea of getting a Mill because I can justify it by using it as a drill.....and having the milling ability is a bonus

trailer looks great! cant wait to see it all finished and painted!

Rudi.

Thanks Rudi, hopefully one day Ill have a nice project like your Datto sitting in my garage. Itll be a Ford though

With the size of your property I would invest in battery-powered tools. This would be a perfect time to pick a brand that has high ratings, a broad range of tools and a track record of support (not changing battery design weekly). Donate any current battery-powered tools, which don't match the above criteria, to your son.

I may even upgrade some of my hand tools Bob, thanks for putting the idea in my head.
All my cordless range is AEG. Again more of a middle of the road handy man quality.
My son uses all Makita for his cordless trade tools and I have to say in most cases his Makita range far surpass the AEG when using them.
Having said that, he wouldnt have my AEG gear even if it was given to him, unlike me, he wont buy cheap or middle of the range. I was the same for my trade tools, it was Rupes or nothing for me back in the day.

Most of the Tradie trailers that I do, get a coat of Ryno liner underneath. It works really well

You build tradie trailers? Got any pics? Id love to put Rino liner under and inside it but at this stage (and budget) itll be normal old hammer finish enamel

Every time I have to build a trailer or similar I think itll be a great little shed
project, until I am finished, then I am so sick of cutting and welding I swear itll be the last one for a long time!
But I admit I am getting far more efficient at it now. I do all my cuts so the material is sitting of the floor ready, square it up, give it all a good tack together and then do all my welding.
But I am always sick of it after a few days, I couldnt build trailers etc for a living I dont think.

 

[Terrick down Under]

The first is the first trailer from 6 years ago, they overloaded the drawbar, so version 2.0 came about with the extra load on the drawbar allowed for.



This is our field day trailer and our entire display fits inside this trailer using the Tetras method. 4 wheel electric brakes and totals at 2750kg, and stops on a dime.

I don't have any pics of the rhino spray jobs.

 

[Terrick down Under]

I keep a cut list of each of the sizes that I build, but every trailer gets a mod and has to be adjusted before cutting starts.
This is a good example. Originally wanted a cheap car trailer, but this is the end result.

 

[Geoff289]

Dan, re your 50th birthday dilemma - I bought my first Mustang for my 50th. Don't think I could have mounted much of an argument for needing it, but I certainly wanted it.

Get yourself whatever floats your boat I reckon. I think Machinery Warehouse usually have an end of F/Y sale.

 

[Ralf99]

Just in time..

 

[Danshell]

I keep a cut list of each of the sizes that
This is a good example. Originally wanted a cheap car trailer, but this is the end result.

Awesome trailer mate. Yeh thats far from a cheap car trailer.

Dan, re your 50th birthday dilemma - I bought my first Mustang for my 50th. Don't think I could have mounted much of an argument for needing it, but I certainly wanted it.

Get yourself whatever floats your boat I reckon. I think Machinery Warehouse usually have an end of F/Y sale.

Id love to buy a Mustang but that'll have to wait. Just prior to this covid thing we were about to pull the pin on a block of land near the coast. We want a nice secluded coastal block that the kids and ourselves can use for camping etc And it gives us options down the track if we decide to downsize from this place, if all these ****** kids ever leave home So large purchases like cars for a hobby will have to wait

Just in time..

Thanks Ralf, Im on their mailing list, I get spammed daily so I was waiting for the EOFY sale to start.

 

[Danshell]

The decision on what to buy for my 50th has been made and fulfilled.

I went with the sensible choice of replacing something I use all the time.

My old Mig and Tig set up has had the best part of 10-15 years use each, and even though they both worked fine (the tig needed a new lead for the tig and plasma) they are both a bit dated and I felt it was time for an upgrade.

So I decided to put them on Gumtree for $1100 for the pair or $550 each and see if that made the decision to upgrade for me. With in a day they both sold to a gent that wants to learn welding. I gave him a demo of the mig and explained that the old Tig needs new leads etc and off he went happy with his purchase.

I then bought this lot of goodies.

The Cigweld Mig is a nice little unit that appears to be more than suitable for the type of work I do. It is compact and uses all the quality leads and torches etc.

The AC Tig is another 'Chinese' unit, albeit backed by a reputable supplier (Total Tools) and quite an upgrade to my old unit. It has all the right adjustments I need from a Tig, where as my old unit was limited. Did the job, but it was a challenge if I am honest.

I also grabbed a little dedicated Plasma cutter. Unimig, again is well supported so I feel it should be fine.

I have already tested the mig and it is exactly that, a mig. Welds nicely as did my old mig but this one is quite a bit more modern being an inverter welder.
It also has DC tig and stick welding as a part of the 3 in 1 deal, but Ill unlikely use those, or very rarely.

I also tested the plasma and it is a little ripper, I love it. Cuts clean and super easy to use.

I am yet to test the Tig as some numb nut (me) turned my argon bottle on and emptied the bottle due to a leak in the hose.

The tool trailer will be finished tomorrow after I put the final paint on the exterior.
It should have been done by now but sadly a good work mate passed away Thursday night so that has slowed me down a bit. I worked closely with him for 20 years, he was only 61 and had what appears to be a heart attack.
And if thats not bad enough it appears as though we wont be able to give him the send off he would have liked due to the covid restrictions.

 

[hewey]

The welding kit looks like a good set up. And condolences on the loss of your work colleague, gone too young, and its a really crappy time to connect with others for support.

 

[Geoff289]

That's not a Mustang!

 

[Danshell]

The welding kit looks like a good set up. And condolences on the loss of your work colleague, gone too young, and its a really crappy time to connect with others for support.

Thanks Hewey. Im not looking forward to work tomorrow thats for sure.

That's not a Mustang!

Its the closest thing to a Mustang Ill get for a few years

There was no painting done to the Tool Trailer this weekend as the young bloke has been busy building drawers and compartments etc for the inside of it.

I did manage to use the left over steel from the trailer build to make a new welding cart for my gear. Its a work in progress but here it is with the welders on it.
Ill get a proper pic when I paint it and finish the final touches.

 

[Danshell]

I almost forgot to post some pics of the young bloke trailer all finished.

We gave it the waterproof test.....it passed

He spent quite a bit of time fitting out the inside with drawers and dividers etc to custom fit all his tools and hardware.

And of course the test drive...again it passed.

 

[Geoff289]

Work of art, Dan. I would seriously be knocking on your door for one but for that wet bit between us.

That barrow looks like it hasn't been christened yet either.

 

[Danshell]

Work of art, Dan. I would seriously be knocking on your door for one but for that wet bit between us.

That barrow looks like it hasn't been christened yet either.

Thanks Geoff

Not sure about work of art but it certainly stacks up against the commercially built product around here.

The wheel barrow was a present from his Girlfriends parents for his recent birthday, they tend to spoil him a bit

 

[hewey]

That trailer has come out beautifully. Is he getting signage done for it? And will he be doing social media accounts to show his work? My wife and I have both noted really nice looking work vehicles in our local area, and then gone to look at their facebook/instagram pages to get an understanding of the quality and style of their work. Our basis is someone who takes the time to present a really clean work vehicle and show pride in their business is more likely to do a better job at our place. That's how we came across the landscaper who is coming next week to do some work for us

Also it sounds like his potential in laws are great and supportive

 

[Ralf99]

The trailer has come up a treat - I want one! My kids are keen on getting in to go karting, so have been thinking about converting a tradie trailer and setting it up for kart transport/storage/mobile workshop use. I'm now considering stealing some of your construction techniques and building something from scratch - probably not the cheaper option but certainly the more satisfying.

As Hewey has said, classy signage and a linked social media presence...

 

[Danshell]

That trailer has come out beautifully. Is he getting signage done for it? And will he be doing social media accounts to show his work? My wife and I have both noted really nice looking work vehicles in our local area, and then gone to look at their facebook/instagram pages to get an understanding of the quality and style of their work. Our basis is someone who takes the time to present a really clean work vehicle and show pride in their business is more likely to do a better job at our place. That's how we came across the landscaper who is coming next week to do some work for us

Also it sounds like his potential in laws are great and supportive

Thanks Hewey. Yes he is getting decals made for the sides and tailgate with his logo and social media logos.

He is just having some licensing issues at the moment. He spent the majority of his years in the trade doing large commercial work, so getting a domestic license is appearing to be a problem. He has to resubmit his application but now outlining all his domestic experience. When he submitted the first application he thought it would be best to show all the jobs which he ran as a foreman, but as it turns out they (building hospitals and schools) have zero weight for a domestic license. ****** red tape, but he will work through it.

He bought a domain and set up a placemark for his website and he will be all over the social media thing, but he doesnt want to proceed with any of that until he gets the license through.

http://gelstonconstruction.com.au/

Thats his website. License application pending, he is building a house and block of units later this years and next year for an investor that thinks very highly of him so once they are complete he will have something more substantial in regards to photos to post on his website/instagram etc.

The trailer has come up a treat - I want one! My kids are keen on getting in to go karting, so have been thinking about converting a tradie trailer and setting it up for kart transport/storage/mobile workshop use. I'm now considering stealing some of your construction techniques and building something from scratch - probably not the cheaper option but certainly the more satisfying.

As Hewey has said, classy signage and a linked social media presence...

Thanks Ralf. When he wanted a tradie trailer we looked at the local offerings new and for what he wanted (large dedicated tradie trailer built to hold some weight) they were upwards of $5000 and then some for the extras.

We then looked at second hand and most of them were selling for $2000-$3000 and even then they were not much more than a 6x4 box trailer with a tradie top sitting on top.

All the commercially built stuff are built using small SHS and thin walled in areas that really require thicker material. They also are not braked so they are only legally rated to 750kg's which is fine but to build a tool trailer properly you are going to end up weighing 500-600kg's empty so it doesnt leave enough weight for tools and hardware.

This trailer will owe him less than $3000. That doesnt inlcude labour of course. It has brakes and it can legally hold 1.4 tonne. It has a good 700kg pay load which he shouldnt really need but its legal, safe and strong.

Build your own trailer mate, its a great father son project.

 

[Danshell]

Nothing special here, just a welding cart slapped together using scrap but I did say Id take a better pic when I was painting it. Paint that is left over from the tool trailer build btw

And loaded with the new welders

I tried the Tig out today in AC on Aluminium and wow I am very pleased with the way it welds. Far more controlled than my old Tig. Beautifully controlled 'stack dime' welds.
The welder is better than me at this stage.

We paid our last respects to my work mate today. The covid restrictions meant that we all watched the funeral online. Ive never been to a good funeral and this was no exception. A very sad and emotional day.

 

[Danshell]

Ive always had my scrap steel in plastic tubs in the storeroom and it is a pain to find anything, so I used some scrap to make a shelf to hold the scrap shorts!

Most of these shorts normal people would throw out but I think my Scottish/Irish ancestry forces me to keep most of my off cuts.

The bays are half sheets and half wire mesh, with the top two bays being mesh. It is on wheels that are not designed for the weight but I wont be wheeling it around any time soon.

 

[Bob Heine]

Excellent solution to the scrap dilemma. A lot of my shorts would fall through that mesh so I think you are doing just fine with that selection. I thought my Scottish ancestry only affected my taste buds but you might be on to something. I say it's not hoarding if it saves you money.

 

[Danshell]

Excellent solution to the scrap dilemma. A lot of my shorts would fall through that mesh so I think you are doing just fine with that selection. I thought my Scottish ancestry only affected my taste buds but you might be on to something. I say it's not hoarding if it saves you money.

Yep I never throw anything out that I think I may use at some other stage in my life. Yet my wife has a motto "if it hasnt been used in 12 months get rid of it" aaaargh!!

My Irish/Scottish ancestry means I love a drink but I dont like to pay for it