Another drill press?!

[gimpyrobb]

Let me start off by saying I have 8ish DPs already. 3 are powered and in use, BUT I found this Rockwell 15-120 that has rack issues. The guy has already come down in price to the point I'm considering it. I have a spare walker/turner and a couple delta dp600 heads, so I may have the parts needed to fix it.

What do yall think?

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

Let me start off by saying I have 8ish DPs already. 3 are powered and in use, BUT I found this Rockwell 15-120 that has rack issues. The guy has already come down in price to the point I'm considering it. I have a spare walker/turner and a couple delta dp600 heads, so I may have the parts needed to fix it.

What do yall think?

I think if you have the room go for it. Not one that you see every day. Great find.

 

[HoosierBuddy]

If you can buy it right, you'll never lose a dime on it.

I say "Pull the trigger".

 

[Cleave]

Go for it. Keep us posted, that thing's sweet. Large tables are a very good thing.
I only have 4 DPs in a 14'x16' shop, plus a post drill out back. Guess I have a ways to go. Nice to keep them set up for different tasks.

 

[gimpyrobb]

I truly only want it cause of the table. Going to look at it in the morning.

Pics of broken parts. He says they are aluminum, I find that hard to believe.

 

[crguy]

I truly only want it cause of the table. Going to look at it in the morning.

Pics of broken parts. He says they are aluminum, I find that hard to believe.

Hard to believe those gears are aluminum. if factory gears aren't available, Boston Gear my well have something you can use, or modify slightly to use. They had the gear I needed for the back gear in a Canedy Otto camel back drill I had.

 

[Whitworth]

I doubt your parts are interchangeable. And you need the gears because the head on those radial drills is so heavy.

What I'd do? Get the drill press for the legs and build a workbench with them.

Unless you REALLY need a radial drill, I say pass, they take up way too much space in a shop.

 

[RoninB4]

-I'd want it because of the T-slots in the table, the ram, and capability of positioning the spindle anywhere you want. It's a heavy model but that also means it's stable and won't vibrate/dance like a lesser DP will. I'd find it hard to believe the bevel gear is aluminum too, a magnet will decide that. Even if a spare OEM gear cannot be located it's a fairly simple matter of getting a matching gear/rack set. If you have the space for it and the price is right I'd grab it. I've used several of that model in machine shops and preferred it. Check for bearing noise too. Good luck.

 

[RTM]

I'd find it hard to believe the bevel gear is aluminum too, a magnet will decide that

I'd guess Zamak, which a magnet may not stick to either. Zamak was the trade name for what most refer to as pot metal

 

[RoninB4]

I'd guess Zamak, which a magnet may not stick to either. Zamak was the trade name for what most refer to as pot metal

-Thanks for the post, I'm well familiar with variations of the material that we (toolmakers) always called zinc-diecast (more describing the process). It's a good material for carb bodies (holds detail) and such but it's horrible for anything structural or requiring good wear resistance (like a gear). I've never been able to weld/braze the stuff and sometimes it just crumbles when trying to drill/tap it for repair. Probably that was one of the cheaper variations of the material and lends to why it's often called "pot metal". Hope things are well for you and yours.

 

[gimpyrobb]

Being they were originally made by Walker/Turner, I doubt they're Aluminum, but yes, I will have a magnet with me. I believe the bevel gears are only to raise/lower the head, so I may bring it home and figure something else to make it go up/down. I have already been looking at "other" bevel gears to swap in.

Worst case I swap a table drill onto it. Not too long ago I bought some of these from this table.

 

[rsanter]

That gear is very fixable.
you see where the gear tooth was. Drill a series of holes and drive hard pins in. Then you braze up material to build up the tooth. Then you file the tooth to shape.

many machine gears have been fixed this was in the last 100 years

 

[tombell572]

I have an early Walker Turner version of that saw and can assure you there is no aluminum anywhere in mine. I can't swear to the newer Delta/Rockwell version but I seriously doubt that aluminum or Zamak was used in any gear. As CR suggested, check with Boston Gear for a replacement bevel gear. A gap of 4 missing teeth will be a pain in the **** to deal with.

I find mine extremely useful. The large work table with ample T-slots makes dealing with large workpieces much easier.

Tom B.

 

[gimpyrobb]

Well, its hard to justify buying this(for me) for more than a couple hundred dollars. I have a nice royal 18 and 2 DP600s on production bases. The guy said another person wanted to look at it, so I said see if he wants it for asking price. I hate to let it go, but have SO many other projects...

 

[crguy]

Well, its hard to justify buying this(for me) for more than a couple hundred dollars. I have a nice royal 18 and 2 DP600s on production bases. The guy said another person wanted to look at it, so I said see if he wants it for asking price. I hate to let it go, but have SO many other projects...

The bottom line to me is: Unless you have a definite need for it, and plenty of space to keep it, let it go. As neat as those are, very few actually have a real need for one. I've passed on several over the years based on that reasoning.

 

[gimpyrobb]

The seller messaged me this morning "whats your offer". We'll see if he wants to get rid of it.

 

[gimpyrobb]

It would appear as if I will be picking this up later today.

 

[RoninB4]

It would appear as if I will be picking this up later today.

-Some photos will be required, you know the rules....

 

[gimpyrobb]

Yup. He's not available till after 230 so it'll be later tonight.

 

[gimpyrobb]

Well $300 and it's here.

 

[MWitte]

I replaced those two gears in nearly the same radial drill press. Mine were broken the same way. I was able to find gears of the same size, & machined the bores to match the existing. My best guess is the originals were made from Zamak.

Here is a link to the thread I started. I need to get it caught up.

Walker Turner Radial Drill

I recently found this Walker Turner Radial Drill press on marketplace, and had to bring it home. I have never seen one quite like this in person. It is pretty ugly, and it is missing the motor (and the step pulley that goes on the motor). The spindle bearings are a little noisy. The lift...

www.garagejournal.com

 

[rustyzman]

Bargain! Nicely done

 

[gimpyrobb]

I replaced those two gears in nearly the same radial drill press. Mine were broken the same way. I was able to find gears of the same size, & machined the bores to match the existing. My best guess is the originals were made from Zamak.

Here is a link to the thread I started. I need to get it caught up.

Walker Turner Radial Drill

I recently found this Walker Turner Radial Drill press on marketplace, and had to bring it home. I have never seen one quite like this in person. It is pretty ugly, and it is missing the motor (and the step pulley that goes on the motor). The spindle bearings are a little noisy. The lift...

www.garagejournal.com

SWEET! looks like a 36115300 and a 36115200?
Got a website or phone number they came from?
A P.M. works too if ya like.

 

[gimpyrobb]

Looks like $131 before tax and shipping.

 

[Torque&Recoil]

Zamak. Great.

Never mind that - I do like my DPs. Not sure anybody needs 8, but what the heck. Go for it.

 

[Neighbor]

I rebuilt a walker turner RD last year. a couple of head scratchers but nothing too difficult. I still need to replace the quill spring. Those have a tendency to break.

 

[gimpyrobb]

I started putting the DP together today. Its got some crunchy bearings where the head slides forward and back. I will be ordering some of those.
The guy sent a cross-slide with the DP. I'm not sure what this goes to, but its not my DP.

It looks like PE1844 on the underside.
Any ideas?

 

[RoninB4]

I started putting the DP together today. Its got some crunchy bearings where the head slides forward and back. I will be ordering some of those.

-Since those bearings are not in constant motion, only moves the head, could the bearings be cleaned out and re-greased for acceptable movement? If you just want new then that's a different priority.

The guy sent a cross-slide with the DP. I'm not sure what this goes to, but its not my DP.

-No idea but I'm not a big fan of cross slides anyway. It could be useful for point-to-point hole location if tolerances are loose enough.

 

[MWitte]

For what it's worth, those bearings on the slide assembly are installed on shafts with an eccentric end. Loosen the set screw on the side of the shaft, then rotate the shaft to bring the bearing closer to or farther away from the slide that they ride against.

 

[Neighbor]

Its got some crunchy bearings where the head slides forward and back. I will be ordering some of those.

Yes I replaced those bearings as well. Not difficult to find at a bearing house.
SKF 6203-ZZ
specs
Outside Diameter
1.575 Inch / 40 Millimeter
Bore 0.669 Inch / 17 Millimeter
Outer Race Width
0.472 Inch / 12 Millimeter


on the bearing
Fafnir 203 KD
40.35 OD
16.95 ID
12 thickness

aka
SKF 6203 2ZJEM $16.36 ea

 

[gimpyrobb]

Thanks for the info on the bearings! I had already read and ordered some. I will try removal tonight.

I've seen where some of these have an MT2 spindle. It doesn't appear that mine does. Are there multiple spindles out there? I wonder if one of my parts drill press heads may have a donor...

 

[gimpyrobb]

-No idea but I'm not a big fan of cross slides anyway. It could be useful for point-to-point hole location if tolerances are loose enough.

It doesn't fit the tables T-slots. Im not sure why he sent it with the drill other than maybe it came with the drill. He said he got the dp from a place he used to work at.

 

[RoninB4]

Im not sure why he sent it with the drill

-Maybe he sent it so there's one less boat anchor he had to deal with? If it doesn't fit can drilling new holes be the solution? If the problem is the keys are sloppy in the slots of the DP table some new ones could be attached. Several milling machine vises have removeable keys on them. Just a suggestion now that it's YOUR boat anchor.