Anvils?

[ekegelmann]

Is there a big marketplace for old anvils? Why so expensive? In the auction im bidding on the Wilton c3 there is this Anvil. Are there collectors here who would want this if I bought it? Just curious. I wouldnt mark it up, Id just expect shipping cost etc. Its 28" long and 12" tall. Thanks guys and girls.

 

[nine4gmc]

Price varies by condition and weight. I have one similar size at 28" and it weighs about 168 lbs. Used prices usually go from $1lb to $4lb depending factors. I am far from an anvil expert though, I just lucked up on a couple and know what I have read.

 

[countryroad82]

I don't know about market for them. I do know in my area they are few and far between. I've personally been looking for one to use for a few years now but locally I've come up empty handed. I will say they tend to command a pretty decent price in some areas whereas in others they are bought by the pound.

 

[thehorse13]

If you plan on using it for it's intended use, be sure that the striking surface is not worn away or damaged. Large anvils with the striking surface in good order command hundreds of dollars on the east coast. 1 to 4 dollars a pound is a good estimate based on condition, brand, age and rarity.

 

[Zeke]

What are the markings?

 

[crguy]

So, you're a tool dealer, but don't know if there's a market for anvils? Why is my BS meter going off?

 

[ritestuff]

So, you're a tool dealer, but don't know if there's a market for anvils? Why is my BS meter going off?

If it's an ACME, there's always the Roadrunner market to consider.

 

[ducksface]

Anvils are worth their weight, in weight.
Anything else, except to 1 in 100,000 people, is pure romance.

 

[ekegelmann]

So, you're a tool dealer, but don't know if there's a market for anvils? Why is my BS meter going off?

im a tool dealer, selling a few wrench and sockets i have doubles of or dont like does not a dealer make.

Also, like most I have no clue on anvils.

 

[ironmutt]

brand condition and weight are all factors a solid wrought iron base with a crucible steel face being the top of the line and demanding upwards of $10 a pound a cast iron nonhardened face being bottom of the line and they are whats refered to as ASO's (anvil shaped objects) and they are worth what scrap weight is at time it rolls across the scale . its kinda like GEO Metro and a Porshe are both cars and both will get you from point a to b but there is definitely a difference

 

[ekegelmann]

thanks everyone

 

[crguy]

im a tool dealer, selling a few wrench and sockets i have doubles of or dont like does not a dealer make.

Also, like most I have no clue on anvils.

Most people know how to do their own research on Google, Ebay, Craigslist, etc.

 

[My Old Tools]

These guys in Shreveport are still having them cast. They aren't cheap new, so a good usable one will bring decent money.
http://emersonhorseshoe.net/21-anvils

 

[ekegelmann]

Most people know how to do their own research on Google, Ebay, Craigslist, etc.

Are we going to go through this again? I did look on every page I could find Anvils. I also like to actually discuss the topic with humans rather than just read. I really think you've found a goal in life and that's to get on my case. Are you an Anvil expert? Would you just sit and research all night or actually ask a question to someone who may know more than a webpage? Why are you here? What are you asking? I should start trolling your post.

 

[Cruzan80]

I don't see any markings. Looks like a general Farriers anvil (long horn, shallow cone). I would see what condition the top and the part between the top and the horn is in (small flat spot can be used to cut hot). See what the springback is (lightly hit it with a hammer and see how much rebound). The square hole abound have clean nice edges, the round one can be a bit more beat up.

As far as collecting, without a name, it will be much harder. More of a user than a collector judging from pics.
Agree with the pricing above, with the caveat that big heavy beasts command more. Anything under about 70# is considered small. And they are a pain to ship.

 

[ekegelmann]

Let me give you more background, maybe your writing a book on me since you like research so much. Look up l3 to s1 fusion surgery with rods and hardware and tell me how it affects longterm sitting spells at a computer. I'll be waiting

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[ekegelmann]

Most people know how to do their own research on Google, Ebay, Craigslist, etc.

Also "Bitchslap" What is that? Can you expand on that for me. Sounds very interesting.

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[ekegelmann]

Or are you saying I'm a woman, and it's funny to slap them. Well millions of abused women wouldn't find it funny.

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[Carla]

Gentlemen, please......before this 'discussion' gets any worse.........

Mr kegelmann.........there are many people, quite a few of whom are women, in this country, who do smithing, either as a trade or for personal amusement, and actively seek out good anvils.

There are several discussion sites on the internet which are devoted to smithing, and many discussions of equipment and technique to be found there.

By reading these, you can get an appreciation of the qualities of anvils, some generalised understanding of the 'fine-point' details of anvils, as felt by those for whom a good anvil is a primary piece of their equipment, and the reasons why the 'market value' of anvils will vary widely, relative to these 'fine-point' details.

There are some anvils considered quite valuable, and some alleged 'anvils' valued at 'scrap metal' levels. Each 'good' anvil is an 'individual' to those who do serious smithery work. The relationship between a smith and his/her anvil is often considered 'mystical', yet is very real, and some smiths will own several anvils before finding 'the right one'

No one can appraise an anvil just from a photo, with no further information. Even some of the 'best makes', such as the Hay-Budden, will vary significantly in subtle qualities of 'liveliness' between individual anvils.

cheers

Carla

 

[1982fxr]

been awhile since I had one but I want to say Hay Budden. Markets vary but if it has decent bounce back it would probably bring about $3 per pound. Looks in real good shape but have to check bounce since sometimes they are in a fire, which can cause them to lose temper.

IIRC shipping becomes a much more difficult game once over 150 pounds...

 

[Zeke]

Let me give you more background, maybe your writing a book on me since you like research so much. Look up l3 to s1 fusion surgery with rods and hardware and tell me how it affects longterm sitting spells at a computer. I'll be waiting

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Also "Bitchslap" What is that? Can you expand on that for me. Sounds very interesting.

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Or are you saying I'm a woman, and it's funny to slap them. Well millions of abused women wouldn't find it funny.

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What is making you mean? 4 pics and no markings is not enough to go on about.

 

[ekegelmann]

What is making you mean? 4 pics and no markings is not enough to go on about.

Go read CRGUY comment. I'm irritated about the probably 50th nasty post about me that he has posted. I'm sick of it. Childish.

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[hsvtoolfool]

No one can appraise an anvil just from a photo, with no further information.

Carla, he knows that. You were taken in just like me and several others.
We all made the same mistake trying to help a fellow enthusiast here in the
forum. In reality, you put more time and thought into your nice response
than he's spent on any thread he's started in the forum.

Ekegelmann is a wannabe tool dealer spamming the Vintage Tool forum.
Most of his posts belong in the Classifieds area. With few exceptions, he's
drawing attention to his wares under the guise of getting help from genuine
old tool hobbyists in the forum. Several people in each thread will tell him
what he has, tell him exactly how he can establish a fair value, and perhaps
give him a ballpark price based on photos. He then ignores all the advice
and asks again and again for precise price estimates, attempting to establish
a consensus. This also keeps his post at the top of the forum list. If he can't
sell the tool here, he then lists it on Ebay at the highest estimate he got from
the forum. We do all the thinking and research, he makes money. Slick, eh?

As you've noticed, I'm probably not the only person annoyed by his
passive-aggressive spamming. You can see other examples here...

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=319174

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320023

 

[crguy]

Carla, he knows that. You were taken in just like me and several others.
We all made the same mistake trying to help a fellow enthusiast here in the
forum. In reality, you put more time and thought into your nice response
than he's spent on any thread he's started in the forum.

Ekegelmann is a wannabe tool dealer spamming the Vintage Tool forum.
Most of his posts belong in the Classifieds area. With few exceptions, he's
drawing attention to his wares under the guise of getting help from genuine
old tool hobbyists in the forum. Several people in each thread will tell him
what he has, tell him exactly how he can establish a fair value, and perhaps
give him a ballpark price based on photos. He then ignores all the advice
and asks again and again for precise price estimates, attempting to establish
a consensus. This also keeps his post at the top of the forum list. If he can't
sell the tool here, he then lists it on Ebay at the highest estimate he got from
the forum. We do all the thinking and research, he makes money. Slick, eh?

As you've noticed, I'm probably not the only person annoyed by his
passive-aggressive spamming. You can see other examples here...

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=319174

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320023

You're absolutely right.

He denies he's a dealer, yet he has 694 listings (mostly tools) on Ebay right now that are all Buy It Now at high retail (or higher). Somehow he was able to come up with prices on all that stuff.


That's why I called BS on him. He got all upset and changed his story before when he was questioned about this. Most people on this forum are very helpful unless they feel they are being taken advantage of.

EK: Apparently, you'll have to Google this to find out what it means:

 

[3baygarage]

On todays episode of "This Old Plane" …...
jabs are thrown like wood shavings.....
While one man still hammers toward possible Ebay millionairedom,
others become increasingly watchful, attempting to gouge his reputation.
Will he crack first due to the repeated chiseling?
They say he is good at hiding cracks anyway.
We shall see.
Stay tuned for next week's episode, titled "As The Sawdust Settles"

 

[ekegelmann]

My wife does the eBay postings. I find out info if I can. I guess you were not able to look up what kind f surgery I had and how it makes sitting long an issue. Oh well, maybe a little research would help.

And no, I know nothing about Anvils. Most people dont.

 

[crguy]

On todays episode of "This Old Plane" …...
jabs are thrown like wood shavings.....
While one man still hammers toward possible Ebay millionairedom,
others become increasingly watchful, attempting to gouge his reputation.
Will he crack first due to the repeated chiseling?
They say he is good at hiding cracks anyway.
We shall see.
Stay tuned for next week's episode, titled "As The Sawdust Settles"

I like that!

 

[48fordnut]

HSV Tool ,thanks for the explanation. Just read the post and found it interesting.

 

[ekegelmann]

HSV Tool ,thanks for the explanation. Just read the post and found it interesting.

See here if you ask any questions on price your considered an "evil" dealer. Me, I go out hunting estate sales or garage sales with me son like I did with my grandfather. Im handicapped so I cannot work. We at times have to buy a whole tool box in order to get one thing we want to keep or add to out collection. Then my wife runs the ebay or craigslist business to sell extra tools or ones we dont want. HOW IS THIS IMPROPER? If im doing research and cannot find out anything on my own, and perhaps this is my fault, yet ask a question on here on what someone would bid in an auction....(which ive asked because they were things I wanted to have as my own, not to resale) or just ask a basic value question because I may not know what is and WHY do people have issues with this? Has human interaction gotten that bad because keyboard warriors feel they can lambast anyone without consequence? Really people.

 

[Ryan]

You guys are arguing over anvils now?