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Are Snap On Impact Sockets worth it?

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First off - please only answer if you own and have used Snap On impact sockets... it's not helpful to have speculative answers from people with no experience using the tools.

I'm most interested in hearing about how Snap On impacts perform/fit/etc vs brands like GP and Sunex. The Snap Ons are literally 8-10x more expensive for a set of the same sizes. So my question to people who own them is - is it worth it if you have the money or should you just go with the cheaper but decent quality brands like GP?

Also, does Snap On replace them no questions asked when the drive end gets wallowed out over time?
 
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The short answer is that unless you need the immediate service that a good Snap-On truck operator provides, then no.

Quality and performance of the Sunex and Gray Pneumatic stuff is very very good- the difference is you won't have someone to deliver a replacement to you in a pinch.
 

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I own snap-on, craftsman and proto impact sockets. I really have not noticed any difference in fit or their ability to get a nut off. I don't use them often enough to have any comments on longevity though (perhaps once a month on average). If I needed a new set I would probably buy a name brand from a local hardware store. I would not bother to track down a tool truck or pay the extra money.
FYI, I only use impact sockets about once a month. Hope this helps.
 

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They are not worth the price!!! I have a 10-36mm set of Snap-on deep Impacts, While I use them everyday & replacement/warranty has been stellar, I can't recommend them.

You can buy USA JH-Williams for less than 1/3rd the price!
 

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I've read this view on impacts many times here but the opposite with chromes where the consensus is that it is worth paying the extra for tighter tolerances and durability. I'm interested to know what makes impact sockets different to chromes in this respect? Are more expensive impacts from Snap on not more precisely and consistently manufactured and with stricter qc than the cheaper ones? How is it that cheaper brands can make impacts equal to Snap on but when it comes to chromes they make sockets that are said to not fit fasteners as well? :confused:
 

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I've read this view on impacts many times here but the opposite with chromes where the consensus is that it is worth paying the extra for tighter tolerances and durability. I'm interested to know what makes impact sockets different to chromes in this respect? Are more expensive impacts from Snap on not more precisely and consistently manufactured and with stricter qc than the cheaper ones? How is it that cheaper brands can make impacts equal to Snap on but when it comes to chromes they make sockets that are said to not fit fasteners as well? :confused:

With chrome sockets, Snap-On and other high quality brands will tend to use higher alloy steels. These materials are more expensive to buy and require more expensive equipment to work during manufacturing, which contributes to cost.

The benefits to these materials are, in general, that they wind up much harder/stronger and thus the sockets made from them can be made much thinner, which is a big benefit. Secondly, because of the way these materials react to machining operations, they can be made to tighter tolerances.

The tolerance thing isn't about material though. My opinion is that the primary reason that companies like snap-on show better tolerances than no-name competitors selling at bottom prices is about their machine setups. Snap-On clearly sets up the machines that make their parts to produce the best quality possible in both surface finish and tolerances- any machinist can look at a snap-on socket and tell you it's well machined. Holding tolerances in operations like broaching the socket opening comes down to replacing tools at the right time. Closer tolerances means replacing broaches and tooling a LOT more often, and Snap-On (and other companies producing good quality) are willing to do that even though it's an expensive approach.

The chroming on Snap-On tools is also extremely high quality, and quality chroming is expensive.

So for chrome sockets it matters.

Impact sockets are different because their primary duty is impact- they're made from different material. Almost everyone uses very similar grades of chrome molybdenum steel (as opposed to chrome vanadium or other grades used for chrome sockets) in order to arrive at a final product which is very tough, to handle impact load, at the expense of hardness/stiffness. To make them stiff enough to do the job, they increase the wall thickness. This is why impact sockets are almost always a lot bigger- because the steel used isn't as hard and it needs the wall thickness for hoop strength around the broach.

Because you typically aren't trying to snake an impact socket into some tight place, a company using slightly less high-quality material and needing a thicker wall, or spending a little less money on the machine work etc just doesn't matter as much.

Add in the fact that the sockets aren't chromed (which makes them a lot cheaper to make) and the fact that anyone using them in a professional setting expects impact sockets to be a wear item long term and in my opinion it just doesn't make sense to spend the big money for Snap-On impact sockets UNLESS you need the service (you're in a critical industry, etc).
 

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With chrome sockets, Snap-On and other high quality brands will tend to use higher alloy steels. These materials are more expensive to buy and require more expensive equipment to work during manufacturing, which contributes to cost.

The benefits to these materials are, in general, that they wind up much harder/stronger and thus the sockets made from them can be made much thinner, which is a big benefit. Secondly, because of the way these materials react to machining operations, they can be made to tighter tolerances.

The tolerance thing isn't about material though. My opinion is that the primary reason that companies like snap-on show better tolerances than no-name competitors selling at bottom prices is about their machine setups. Snap-On clearly sets up the machines that make their parts to produce the best quality possible in both surface finish and tolerances- any machinist can look at a snap-on socket and tell you it's well machined. Holding tolerances in operations like broaching the socket opening comes down to replacing tools at the right time. Closer tolerances means replacing broaches and tooling a LOT more often, and Snap-On (and other companies producing good quality) are willing to do that even though it's an expensive approach.

The chroming on Snap-On tools is also extremely high quality, and quality chroming is expensive.

So for chrome sockets it matters.

Impact sockets are different because their primary duty is impact- they're made from different material. Almost everyone uses very similar grades of chrome molybdenum steel (as opposed to chrome vanadium or other grades used for chrome sockets) in order to arrive at a final product which is very tough, to handle impact load, at the expense of hardness/stiffness. To make them stiff enough to do the job, they increase the wall thickness. This is why impact sockets are almost always a lot bigger- because the steel used isn't as hard and it needs the wall thickness for hoop strength around the broach.

Because you typically aren't trying to snake an impact socket into some tight place, a company using slightly less high-quality material and needing a thicker wall, or spending a little less money on the machine work etc just doesn't matter as much.

Add in the fact that the sockets aren't chromed (which makes them a lot cheaper to make) and the fact that anyone using them in a professional setting expects impact sockets to be a wear item long term and in my opinion it just doesn't make sense to spend the big money for Snap-On impact sockets UNLESS you need the service (you're in a critical industry, etc).

This is all spot on. If you work out the BOGO deals, and aren't paying full retail, there are advantages to truck brands like Snap-on or MAC for impact sockets. Namely Flank Drive engagement, and unquestioned warranty when they start to round from use - rather than failure.

If you only use impact sockets on rare occasions, or DIY, or simply don't want to spend any extra money Sunex would be the best way to go.
 

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Like other have said, unless you have a driver stopping by every other day and you plan on breaking them, there are much cheaper options.

By all means, get the Snap-on, but you don't NEED them unless you NEED dealer service.
 

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I have a 1-5/16 GP socket that I use for my car's axle nuts. The square drive end is flat; no countersink. That doesn't make a huge difference if you're only using it once in awhile, but I will say the countersunk drive end of an impact socket like Proto for example does make it easier to engage an extension or the anvil of an impact wrench. If I had to constantly take the socket off and re-engage it repetitiously, the GP socket would be a slight nuisance over a period of time.
 

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Sunex and GP and even HF have the Flank Drive feature.

Snap Ons impacts are really nice but not worth it to me. I can get several sets of GP/Sunex for the price of one set of Snap On and the cheaper ones hold up very well. The only complaint I have is the universals can loosen up and jam the pin, as that happens here and there I replace with individual better brands

I have to have SAE and Metric shallow, deep, and universal in 3/8 and 1/2. I have to have SAE and Metric Allen. I have to have 3/4 from 15/16 to 2 1/2, with some sizes in deep, and some 3/4 drive Allen sockets on top of that. I’m about to add midlength and maybe midlength universals.

To cover all that in GP and Sunex is expensive enough. To cover that in Snap On is cost prohibitive.

I will say I do like my Snap On universal sockets. They hold up better, but they are not cheap .

As for warranty I have yet to warranty a normal socket. Cheap enough to self warranty.
 

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First off - please only answer if you own and have used Snap On impact sockets... it's not helpful to have speculative answers from people with no experience using the tools.

Looks like you're getting mostly third party responses from people who are speculating.

I'm most interested in hearing about how Snap On impacts perform/fit/etc vs brands like GP and Sunex. The Snap Ons are literally 8-10x more expensive for a set of the same sizes. So my question to people who own them is - is it worth it if you have the money or should you just go with the cheaper but decent quality brands like GP?

The couple of larger Sunex sockets I have work fine, but they're specialty only use for particular applications used sparingly. Quality is excellent on the Sunex. Warranty too for a shattered socket. Many companies won't warranty out an item for "use" when it "wears out" and only for defects.

Also, does Snap On replace them no questions asked when the drive end gets wallowed out over time?

Yep. I've replaced my entire set twice.
 

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Well you need replace a snapon set more than 4 times to see a value return on what they charge for them .
I own some snapon mac and taiwan but mostly now taiwan and taiwan crv based sockets hold up best followed by the crmo.
nothing wrong with crv in impact sockets as specific hardness treatment the main player making them usable for impacting and current trend of big names is making them too soft so less chance of liability issue .
You can't go wrong with any decent design impact sockets from taiwan, the shouldered sockets (not tapered nose) with pin hole, oring groove and chamfer on hex and drive lead in are nice to use as daily professional and hold up real good .
I can self warranty my entire sets 5 times and still be bucks ahead over tool truck and either keep a spare set on shelf of most important coverage for instant solution to any problem or order online and have it in 24/48hrs or if real stuck call napa and get them drop in a specific tool with parts delivery same day which generally faster and simpler than truck going deal with it .
 
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No, not worth it in the slightest. A home gamer won't wear out an impact so that's kind of moot and even in a professional setting you rarely need replacements so you never come close to making it worth it.

Williams impacts are 100% identical if you absolutely must have Snap-on but without the ridiculous price.
 

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My 25 year old set of Snap On medium deep 1/4 in drive 6 point flank drive metric sockets is my go to set for what I do. Use the hell out of them on hand ratchets, air ratchets and a 1/4 inch Blue Point air impact. Never ever has one broken. They have a lot of miles on them and I wouldn't consider replacing them with anything else.

I bought some 1/2 inch drive Kobalt deep impact sockets from Lowes because they covered the widest range of sizes in metric and sae. They were under 60 bucks a set at the time. They serve me well.
 

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I own Snap on, Proto, Craftsman USA, Wright, Armstrong and Pittsburgh 1/2" impacts and SK 3/8" drive impact sockets. The Snap on's were purchased used at an estate sale. I don't remember the exact date code but they are early 90's I believe.

IMO Snap on impacts would not be worth the retail cost or even some BOGO sale prices. They are good sockets but no better than any of the other brands I own.

I could pick out a dozen little pros and cons between each brand like size stamping, how quickly they rust or wall thickness but those are just personal preferences and yours may differ. They all get the job done.


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I bought all mine lightly used off eBay for a fraction of retail. I've never owned any other brands to compare them to though.
 

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I have a full set of Snap-On 1/2" drive impact sockets in metric (deep and shallow), and 1/2" deeps in SAE, my shallows are MAC.

They are very nice sockets, and I have never regretted buying them.

Are they a good value for dollar? I don't know yet. I have not used them hard enough to wear them out, but I do know my dealer has no problem swapping them out for new ones, as I've seen him do it. I've had them for about 10 years now, and used in a professional environment.

The deal with Snap-on, or any of the other truck brands is to not buy at retail price. You need to wait for deals and BOGO promos. The price can drop by as much as 50% or more when you do this. I buy something off the truck probably once a month, but almost never at full retail unless its something I need NOW. I am willing to wait for deals, trade ins or other promos. You don't get these savings unless you have a dealer. They don't do it online.

Snap-on makes exceptionally nice tools at an exceptional premium. If you don't think its worth it, don't buy the tools. Simple as that.

I personally buy SO because my dealer is a great guy, and will bend over backwards to provide outstanding service. I have been on jobsites and needed a weird socket or special bit or something, called my dealer, and he drove out and got me what I needed, RIGHT NOW. Outstanding selection, never had a warranty claim questioned, always had top shelf customer service. I am fine with paying the premium for good service.
 

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I have deep Craftsman USA impact sockets. The 19mm was getting stuck on lug nut after lug nut. In some cases, ruining them to get them out. At $4 a piece, that was getting expensive. Enough. Next time I saw the big white ice cream truck I bought a 19mm deep impact. Amazingly, it doesn't get stuck on the exact same lug nuts. It doesn't ruin them.

Here's a pic: (Craftsman top, Snap on bottom)
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The Snappy has thinner walls. It's also worth noting that measured with a digital caliper, the distance between the "flats" inside the socket was slightly larger than the Craftsman, yet when placed on the lug nut, the amount of play was about 1/4 of what the Craftsman had. The Snap on is shallow broached, the Craftsman is virtually full depth, if that matters to you.

I've saved enough in non-ruined lug nuts to more than pay for the socket.
 

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craftsman didn't have the corner reliefs like the snapon you got, buy decent taiwan and they have same reliefs, good tolerances/material processing and work perfect .
Just look fully at features of sockets before buying and you be fine .
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craftsman didn't have the corner reliefs like the snapon you got, buy decent taiwan and they have same reliefs, good tolerances/material processing and work perfect .
Just look fully at features of sockets before buying and you be fine .

They do have corner reliefs. They are not as pronounced as the Snappy next to it, but I assure you they are there.
 

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If you need strong sockets they are worth the price. At CAT I used snap-on impacts and never had one break pulling up main bearing fasteners. The guys with every other brand of sockets had them constantly break. They refused to pay for snap-on. I stopped loaning mine out to them. Working on incentive Plus hourly meant loosing money when sockets break and you have to hunt one down.
 

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They do have corner reliefs. They are not as pronounced as the Snappy next to it, but I assure you they are there.

Yes I can see them but they small reliefs like on a wall drive chrome and on a sloppy fitting impact socket soon be gouging in the corners .
Pretty much all the better effort taiwan ones have large reliefs on hex and drive square and feed chamfering, I don't have any that do not have it .
Don't have any sticking unless i stupid using wrong size .
 

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I have the older snap on impact socket set made in canada shallow, 10-24 missing 20 and 23, they have seen a lot of use over the years, some of the more popular sizes like 13/17/19 and 21 are deformed but do not round fasteners yet.

My current bahco set, for deeps, 10-24 again, no issues and far less expensive, made in taiwan option.

The fit for both Snap-On and Bahco ones feels the same.
I do prefer the Snap-On Finish compared to the black powder type finish, If I ever broke a Bahco socket I know I'd find it hard to get it replaced.

Their are some great alternatives out their compared to Snap On these days.
 
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If you're a professional, tool truck make a lot of sense. When I was working at a shop it was 6 days a week open to close. My time was more important than driving to Harbor Freight / Sears anytime I broke a socket, and that's if they had it in stock. It's nice knowing the truck is coming by once a week to provide warranty / customer service. buy once, cry once.

If you're a hobbyist, there are probably cheaper alternatives. That being said you don't have to buy Chinese/Taiwan tools to do it..

Williams USA (They have two lines) has some nice sockets for less, Proto USA, Wright USA, etc

If you're like me, impact sockets are the tool you use most often.
 

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If you're a professional, tool truck make a lot of sense. When I was working at a shop it was 6 days a week open to close. My time was more important than driving to Harbor Freight / Sears anytime I broke a socket, and that's if they had it in stock. It's nice knowing the truck is coming by once a week to provide warranty / customer service. buy once, cry once.

This is outdated in the world of Amazon. I can have an impact set, 1/3 the price of any truck, in 1-2 days.

Plus in a pro setting you should have backups. I have multiples of my most used sizes, especially the impact swivels. Personally my favorite regular impacts are of the easy read variety (SK or Matco). If its a tool you're going to blow up fairly regularly like a common ratcheting wrench, impact swivel, or drill bit etc...then by all means, give the truck guy the business. But standard sockets? You're burning your money.
 

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I work 6 days a week and mostly 10hr days, I can get a socket delivered by napa same day, order online in minutes and have delivered in day or 2 .
No need step out of shop unless real desperate on something and that normally not a socket as generally got secondary socket option or mobile tool kit duplicates or another employees tools etc etc .
The basic hand tools never a problem, it the big specialist stuff that causes issues, aircon equipment, diag tools, lift, tyre balancer, office computer/phone etc etc. an impact socket a simple tool and simple replace .
 

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If you're a professional, tool truck make a lot of sense. When I was working at a shop it was 6 days a week open to close. My time was more important than driving to Harbor Freight / Sears anytime I broke a socket, and that's if they had it in stock. It's nice knowing the truck is coming by once a week to provide warranty / customer service. buy once, cry once.


I think this notion is what fools a lot of guys into buying off the truck. Is tool truck service really a benefit? In the digital world we live in today waiting a week for a tool truck to show up is like snail mail vs. email.

Online prices are better, there are more options available, the service is better and the delivery is faster.

I like Snap on tools but for something like impact sockets it makes no sense to me.



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Fit isn't that big of a deal with impact sockets. Most cheap impact sockets fit reasonably well when new and all of them eventually wear down a bit. There was a 3/4 dr 15/16 impact socket my shop foreman told the Snap on guy to bring in on the same day to fight a seized Cummins engine bolt (think it was a head bolt). Hooking it up to a 1" gun and gunning didn't do anything and the socket was already showing signs of wear. Cheap impact sockets work fine. They usually only break when they are worn down and you're fighting a seized bolt.
 

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If you're a professional, tool truck make a lot of sense. When I was working at a shop it was 6 days a week open to close. My time was more important than driving to Harbor Freight / Sears anytime I broke a socket, and that's if they had it in stock. It's nice knowing the truck is coming by once a week to provide warranty / customer service. buy once, cry once.

If you're a hobbyist, there are probably cheaper alternatives. That being said you don't have to buy Chinese/Taiwan tools to do it..

Williams USA (They have two lines) has some nice sockets for less, Proto USA, Wright USA, etc

If you're like me, impact sockets are the tool you use most often.

Impact sockets are one of those things that don't break often, even the cheap ones. And even with a tool truck, half the time I want to buy or warranty something that's not on the flyer, my Snap on guy has to back order it and it takes 2-3 weeks in total. The place where I go to warranty broken Proto tools takes 2 weeks to bring my replacement in.

If this were a broken Canadian tire impact socket, worst case, I've got multiple locations nearby and I can get it replaced within a day. It's also an excuse to check if there are any newly released tools I want to buy.

The only Snap on tools worth buying are items that are potentially dangerous like swivel impacts or stuff that will eventually break where only the truck will warranty it such as drill bits. For items in this category where others will warranty it, it's not always worth the extra money. Out of all T-40 bits my co worker borrowed around the shop and destroyed (including Snap on and Mac), my cheap Canadian tire impact torx bit lasted the longest.
 

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Maybe a different perspective: i dont care much at home but I carry snap on impact sockets when I do desert expeditions because the tool truck and UPS don’t service the boondocks. Every make of tool can break but I superstitiously pay extra for snap on hoping they won’t split down the side at the critical moment. No HF stuff in the desert.


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For Snap On's regular impact sockets, i'd have to say they're probably not worth all that. But however, their beauty is in their warranty and service, so i choose Snap On for high wear/failure sockets such as 12pt Driveline sockets, reducing adapters, and swivels. I consider their driveline sockets a bargain for how much driveline work i do and considering they'll replace them once they start to get worn rather than risk stripping u-joint strap bolts.
 

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Williams USA impact sockets are probably pretty close to what the SO's look like at 1/2 the cost. Made in same factory.
 

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I dont really care for Snap-on impact sockets. Nothing special feature wise, they wear fast and rust really easy.

I am from a non online world so have never seen a Sunex or GP socket. i can name at least 6 brands of sockets from Jet to Pro-Point that are all the same. They work okay but have a funny coating on them, are shorter or or not as heavily made as Proto or Gray.

I like Proto for SAE and use Mac for metric. They have a nice finish and dont rust. The Mac impacts have features like being stepped but they wear fast. I have a 1/2 drive 18mm US made Mac socket that is less than a year old but it is just about worn out. Easy warranty though.
 

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I warranty replaced whole set of MAC in 8 months then sold set on and filled on with more japan style crv impact sockets, hold up proper as not soft, got proper good corner reliefs and nice features and finish and I not broke any to date .
No real benefit in buy truck brand basic tools if you know what looking for and got good access to the world wide tool truck .
 

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Williams USA impact sockets are probably pretty close to what the SO's look like at 1/2 the cost. Made in same factory.

After using my last sunex for 6 years or so, I decided to upgrade to Williams USA just have a data point to compare against. Theyve been doing pretty well I expect no issues in a long service life. I also bought a 22 mm SK, which I really like, due to the size markings around the top of the socket. With most impacts I simply rely on wear to identify sizes so with a rail full of new sockets I was grabbing the wrong one pretty frequently. Maybe my next step will be SK, just for the nice markings.
 

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I have to have SAE and Metric shallow, deep, and universal in 3/8 and 1/2. I have to have SAE and Metric Allen. I have to have 3/4 from 15/16 to 2 1/2, with some sizes in deep, and some 3/4 drive Allen sockets on top of that. I’m about to add midlength and maybe midlength universals.

To cover all that in GP and Sunex is expensive enough. To cover that in Snap On is cost prohibitive.

Are you going to get GP? I'm interested in the semi-deep universals as well.
 
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