Basic Automotive Tools

[Carla]

Just making a list and checking it twice.

Can't bake a cake without the right tools and ingredients.

Plus I'm retired. And a little OCD.

Bill

Hello, Bill,

That list seems more than a little OCD, but then, it never hurts to do some evaluation of potential needs, and evaluation of potential cost-effectiveness of suitably equipping oneself to meet those needs. (quite a few of your list items may not be very cost-effective for the generality of private maintenence shops)

There is something to be said for some level of OCD in automotive work, that of being meticulous and exacting in the work one does. (how many stories have we heard of vehicles coasting to a stop at an exceedingly inconvenient time or location due to this or that petty mistake done by a careless or hurried mechanic?)

I'll just offer a couple of minor ideas, if I may.......you've listed wire crimpers, but not a medium size electric soldering iron and some 60-40 rosin core solder....remember, crimping a terminal to a wire is meant to hold the terminal in place for soldering. A crimped, but not soldered, terminal has the potential to loosen or corrode, after some time in service, and become a tricky nuisance to diagnose when a vehicle malfunctions due to intermittent low voltage on a component. (you needn't ask how I know this.....its rather obvious, actually)

Another item to consider, should you equip yourself to pull/replace engines, is that many of the common 'cherry picker' type of hydraulic light cranes sold these days are of dangerously sub-standard construction. Should you consider investing in that capability, consider the higher price for a best quality American-made unit to be a necessary investment in work safety. (I have seen, first-hand, what happens when a poorly-done weld fails under load, and its not nice, to put it mildly).

Beware the common versions of 'engine tilt' devices, poorly made in the Orient, and find an authentic 'Owatonna Load-Rotor', or equivalent in a reliable American make. (a good friend of mine very nearly lost a hand, when a 'brand X' load tilt rig failed, and dropped an engine.)

As a generality, the 'Harbour Freight' class of suppliers, with their horrid cheap Oriental widgetry, are not your friends. They make cheap Oriental tooling to 'look pretty', to be sure, but an injury accident when cheap tooling fails in use is a very real potential to be considered.

cheers

Carla

 

[sberry]

The HF picker is very well designed, I saw one recently where the welding was flawless and the OTC one not to far away looked terrible.
Pepboys and others had a 1 ton picker for a while that was bad, poorly designed and too light a boom tube.

 

[bczygan]

HF has a great LED headlamp for like $3 or so.

I'll try it out.

 

[bczygan]

I tried Harbor Freight for some speciality tools. I think the axle nut sokets are great for non professional use. The ball joint press, pullers, etc are pretty crappy. You can get OTC or Astro on Amazon for just a little bit more and they are much better. I ordered the Lisle master inner tie rod tools today from Tool Discounter. $75

I too am slowly building my own little shop. I will be 40 next year but it will probably be 2-3 more years before I get my 2 post lift.

I just got my first set of Knipex dykes last week. I am looking forward to seeing what the fuss is all about the next time I attack a cotter pin.

I had to make some valuations and judgement calls.

Many people suggested renting things like the ball joint press from the local auto parts store. Then I heard stories about how they are abused and I didn't want the liability. Plus I will be doing more than 4, plus control arm bushings on at least 2 vehicles, maybe more.

The cost of the SO press is outrageous, even though it is far and away the best. There is a USA version of the press that is similar to all the other Asian ones, but that one and the others are still a bit more than the HF one.

I have heard some bad reviews of the HF press, but I attribute that to mostly operator error.

So for $120, I got the press kit AND the add on kit from HF.

And of course, this is NOT for a shop. Just my own use on my own cars, not even for family.

Bill

EDIT: 2 post lift? I can not deny checking CL for one of those.......

 

[jumbojak]

I have a small set of spiral screw extractors.
Bill

I haven't had much luck with the spiral easy outs. The straight ones are more effective in my experience. The spirals did come in handy for a broken spark plug in an old push mower though.

 

[bczygan]

Hello, Bill,

That list seems more than a little OCD, but then, it never hurts to do some evaluation of potential needs, and evaluation of potential cost-effectiveness of suitably equipping oneself to meet those needs. (quite a few of your list items may not be very cost-effective for the generality of private maintenence shops)

There is something to be said for some level of OCD in automotive work, that of being meticulous and exacting in the work one does. (how many stories have we heard of vehicles coasting to a stop at an exceedingly inconvenient time or location due to this or that petty mistake done by a careless or hurried mechanic?)

I'll just offer a couple of minor ideas, if I may.......you've listed wire crimpers, but not a medium size electric soldering iron and some 60-40 rosin core solder....remember, crimping a terminal to a wire is meant to hold the terminal in place for soldering. A crimped, but not soldered, terminal has the potential to loosen or corrode, after some time in service, and become a tricky nuisance to diagnose when a vehicle malfunctions due to intermittent low voltage on a component. (you needn't ask how I know this.....its rather obvious, actually)

Another item to consider, should you equip yourself to pull/replace engines, is that many of the common 'cherry picker' type of hydraulic light cranes sold these days are of dangerously sub-standard construction. Should you consider investing in that capability, consider the higher price for a best quality American-made unit to be a necessary investment in work safety. (I have seen, first-hand, what happens when a poorly-done weld fails under load, and its not nice, to put it mildly).

Beware the common versions of 'engine tilt' devices, poorly made in the Orient, and find an authentic 'Owatonna Load-Rotor', or equivalent in a reliable American make. (a good friend of mine very nearly lost a hand, when a 'brand X' load tilt rig failed, and dropped an engine.)

As a generality, the 'Harbour Freight' class of suppliers, with their horrid cheap Oriental widgetry, are not your friends. They make cheap Oriental tooling to 'look pretty', to be sure, but an injury accident when cheap tooling fails in use is a very real potential to be considered.

cheers

Carla

Carla,

Thanks for the suggestions. I have an engine hoist, bought used, unknown make.

I also have a couple of Weller soldering guns and a bunch of ends for same.

My list needs some tweaking, as I find more tools, while organizing my little one car garage.

Bill

 

[T45]

I'll just offer a couple of minor ideas, if I may.......you've listed wire crimpers, but not a medium size electric soldering iron and some 60-40 rosin core solder....remember, crimping a terminal to a wire is meant to hold the terminal in place for soldering.

This is getting into a subject that may be beyond scoper of the thread, but solder vs crimp is a bit of contested topic. GOOD crimpers maybe a subject relevant to OP however.

Crimped Terminations

Crimping is an efficient and highly reliable method to assemble and terminate conductors, and typically provides a stronger, more reliable termination method than that achieved by soldering.

Crimp terminations are available in different styles, depending upon the design application and connectivity requirements.

This section details the generic accept/reject criteria of commonly used crimp termination styles. See 2.02 - 2.10 for specific accept/reject criteria applicable to individual crimp styles.

workmanship.nasa.gov

https://webcache.googleusercontent....20Requirements.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[bczygan]

This is getting into a subject that may be beyond scoper of the thread, but solder vs crimp is a bit of contested topic. GOOD crimpers maybe a subject relevant to OP however.



workmanship.nasa.gov

https://webcache.googleusercontent....20Requirements.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Not OT at all.

First step is acquiring needed tool.

Second step is learning how to use it properly.

These are both critical for a DIY. I don't have years of experience in the field to use. Just this forum and YouTube.



Bill

 

[bczygan]

This exercise has got me thinking about how to arrange my garage/shop.

I wanted it to be entirely a metal shop. But being a small single car garage, it serves the driveway. And the driveway as a work space beats working in the street. So I must have some automotive tools in there. So room for the 44" HF roller and 5 drawer red service cart must be made. The roller can be tucked under a bench top, but the service cart needs to be near the door.

A number of things must leave, to provide the space needed. This includes the blast cabinet, non working compressor, camelback drill press, bar folder and second parts washer. Plus I just today removed 2 of the 3 kitchen cabinets that were stored there.

Bill

 

[wmm2]

Will do, as soon as the weather gets a little better! I work outside.

Have used some of it for rear drum brakes on 2 Astro Vans, front brakes and hubs and bearings, brake lines and cylinders, shocks and installing a hitch, but didn't take photos.

Bill

For drum brakes, some of the specialty tools are useful, and not too expensive. A brake spring tool works better than a pair of pliers. For the rears, a star wheel tool works better than a screwdriver. On the star wheel tool, look for good, square edges on the business end. This is one where finding a good used one is better than some of the shiny new junk where the edges are round, making the tool useless.

 

[bczygan]

For drum brakes, some of the specialty tools are useful, and not too expensive. A brake spring tool works better than a pair of pliers. For the rears, a star wheel tool works better than a screwdriver. On the star wheel tool, look for good, square edges on the business end. This is one where finding a good used one is better than some of the shiny new junk where the edges are round, making the tool useless.

Yes!

I spent many hours with a screwdriver and pliers, until way after dark. Can't tell you how frustrating it was. Almost gave up.

Bill

 

[BDT/NWMN]

I'll add the jack and stands.

Dare I hope to add the lift???

Bill; Do yourself a huge favor and make the lift #1 on the list.

 

[bczygan]

Bill; Do yourself a huge favor and make the lift #1 on the list.

I would so love to, but would need to remodel my house or add a garage with adequate size.

Not out of the question later though...

Bill

 

[bczygan]

Today's HF haul of things to check off the list.

Some wobble and swivel impact things to help give me options.

And some free things (Blue tarp not shown).

Bill

 

[bczygan]

Latest list:

Potential tool list:

Next on the list:
Work light LED
Dental picks
Sockets handle trays, deep metric to 27 shallow too.
Electrical Terminal Kit and Crimper
LED 12 volt for testing coil on plug, etc. ($3 or so at electronic supply house
Scanner wide data logging Actron CP9135?
3 in. High Speed Composite Air Cut-Off Tool HF 68832 19.99
Astro Pneumatic 9401 10-Piece Snap Ring Pliers Set APT-9401 28.99
Mapp gas - CL
External retaining ring pliers Matco
Tap and die need good sets SAE and metric HF?
Irwin damaged fastener tool set Screw extractor set?
IRWIN Tools BOLT-GRIP Deep Well Bolt Extractor Set, 5-Piece (3094001) 34.23
Stainless Steel Tweezers Set 6 Pc HF 93598 5.99
Wrenches long box end metric
Offset Box Wrench Set Metric 8 pc HF 32042 15.99
Offset Box Wrench Set SAE 8 pc HF 32041 15.99
Shallow sockets
Thread restoration kit Craftsman SAE and Metric 48 pc 971 2750 54.99
Hex sockets ball end long 3/8" SAE HF 67885 14.99
Hex sockets ball end long 3/8" Metric HF 67888 14.99
Hex sockets 1/2" impact 8 pc SAE 67893 29.99
Star sockets 1/2" impact 8pc HF 61336 29.99
Better organization for wrenches
SAE everything...
Factory service manual 2002 Astro Van


For Service Cart:

Mount for nitrile gloves
Mount for paper towels
Mount for
Shelf
Side cabinet?
Electrical outlet
Air hose rack and fitting
Working on better storage for service cart. Took numerous things out of packaging to save space.


Would like:
1/2 in. Drive Impact Flip Socket Set 3 Pc HF 62491 11.99
1/2 in. Drive 25 in. Professional Breaker Bar HF 62729 19.99
1/2 in. Drive 18 in. Breaker Bar HF 67932 9.99
3/4 in. Drive 20 in. Quick Release Breaker Bar HF 98270 21.99
Titanium Nitride Coated High Speed Steel Step Bit Set 3 Pc HF 60379 13.99
18 piece brake caliper set HF?
Disc Brake Pad and Caliper Service Tool Kit 18 Pc ABN Sears 24.99
Bearing puller set small and large HF
Fuel injection pressure test kit HF
Axle nut socket set HF
Lug nut socket set HF
Silver and Deming drills HF
HVLP spray gun HF
Helping hands HF
Small MIG welder
Air chisel
Spring compressors - Would like center one
Interior body panel tools - Have HF plastic - couple more HF
Short and long wobble extensions - Have some
Deep sockets - Have some
Oil Filter Wrench (assortment of strap and cap types) - Have some
Extensions locking and 3/8 - Have some
Special pliers cable cutters - Have some

Not needed yet:
Stubby wrenches
O2 sensor and oil sender socket set HF
Rear caliper cube - Not needed
Cordless impact - Not needed
Offset wrenches box end metric
Quick disconnect tools
1/2 in. Drive Front Wheel Drive Axle Lock-Nut Socket Set 7 Pc HF 62842 39.99
Axle nut socket set powerbuilt O'Reillys?
Body panel clip pliers HF 67399 7.99
Push pin pliers HF 67400 9.99
Leslie blind seal puller
CV joint boot band installation tool
Air chucks for pressure testing cylinders
Compression tester
Fuel pressure gauge
Vacuum gauge
Chain Wrench
Roofers magnet - Use HF magnet bar
Stud remover
AC tools
Disconnect tools
Hex shaped connector removal tool
2nd cart
Hose cutting tool - Use utility knife
Hose disconnect tools HF
Really long 90 degree pliers
Big channellocks
Curved needlenose
Heavy Duty Slide Hammer and Puller Set 16 Pc HF 63268 69.99
wrenched chopped wrenches S wrenches
Eastwood pro flaring tool set - use small set
Specialty wrenches
Brass rubber mallet HF - Have separate ones
Cable actuated hose clamp pliers
Bolt-Type Wheel Puller Set HF 62620 14.99
MAC flare set
Balance puller
Block tester
Noid Light and IAC Tester Set 11 Pc HF 97959 39.99


HAVE:

1/2 in. Drive Extendable Ratchet HF 62311 17.99
1500 lb. Capacity Vehicle Dollies 2 Pc HF 67338 52.99
Impact screwdriver HF 37530 8.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Socket Set HF 69345 25.99
8 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Hex Socket Set HF 61337 29.99
3 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Impact Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67065 8.99
3 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67066 9.99
3 Pc Universal Impact Joint Socket Adapter Set HF 67986 9.99
7 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Swivel Socket Set HF 67911 29.99
7 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Metric Impact Swivel Socket Set HF 67908 24.99
2 Pc 20° Offset & 45° Angle Long Reach Pliers HF 61587 7.99
Long Reach Hose Grip Pliers 3 Pc HF 37909 14.99
2 Pc. 16 in. Long Reach Pliers Set HF 38598 11.99
Left Hand Drill Bit Set 13 Pc HF 61686 7.99
E reverse Torx sockets metric
Titanium Nitride Coated High Speed Steel Step Bit Set 2 Pc HF 96275 19.99
11 Pc Fully Polished Metric Long Handle Combination Wrench Set HF 47067 24.99
14 Pc Metric V-Groove Combination Wrench Set HF 63063 39.99
37 Pc 3/8 in., 1/2 in. Drive SAE & Metric Impact Socket Set HF 68011 29.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Deep Wall Socket Set HF 69279 24.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive SAE Impact Deep Wall Socket Set HF 69280 24.99
Flex sockets
Pry bars Craftsman
Pry bars HF
Screwdrivers misc, and HF
Mirror & magnet tools extendable
Flashlights misc
Small screwdrivers misc
Brush - Have
Electrical tape
Teflon tape
Pliers misc
Nitrile gloves 7 mil HF
Nitrile gloves 9 mil HF
Long 90 degree pliers HF
Torx or star sockets
Allen sockets metric and SAE
Blow mold 1/4" socket and ratchet set Gearwrench
Office paper clips for cam belts
Crowsfoot wrenches metric
3/8 in. Drive 17 in. Breaker Bar HF 67931 8.99
1/2 in. Drive 25 in. Breaker Bar HF 67933 12.99
Torque wrench HF 3 sizes
4 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Socket Extension Set HF 67972 9.99
Impact extension size converters HF
3/8" Extensions locking and regular HF
Air ratchet - Husky
4# hand sledge
4 lb. Neon Orange Dead Blow Hammer HF 41800 11.99
Side cutters
Ball Joint Service Kit for 2WD and 4WD Vehicles HF 63279 89.99
14 Piece Master Ball Joint Adapter Set HF 62785 72.99
Magnetic parts dishes 4" and 6" HF
Brake Bleeder and Vacuum Pump Kit HF 60770 24.99
Tie rod and Pitman arm puller HF 62708 14.99 - Get puller kit?
Ox/ac set
Coolant tester
Calipers HF
Micrometer
Rivets
Rivet gun big hand type HF
Multi-meter Milwaukee and HF
Test light incandescent HF
Drum brake tools
Jack HF and Arcan Alum.
3 Ton Steel Jack Stands HF 61196 21.99
6 ton Steel Jack Stands HF 61197 39.99
Wheel chock
1/2 in. Professional Air Impact Wrench HF Earthquake 68424 89.99
Safety glasses
Pancake air compressor - Porter Cable
Alignment punches
Chisels - Have a selection
Hacksaw - Have a couple
Vise - Have a few
Picks HF small set - Get better?
Grease gun - Learn to use
Flaring tool set small - Good for now for brake lines
Vise grips - Have a few
Channel locks

Supplies:
Super lube HF
Brake cleaner
Kroil
PB blaster
Wheel bearing grease
Brake lube
Anti-seize
Shop towels
Paper towels

Shop Equipment:
Grinders with wire wheels and stones and buffs
Drill press
Bridgeport
Lathe
Horiz. band saw
Parts washer
Arbor press Grenard
Hyd. H press HF
Hose reel
Disc sander
Belt sander
Anvil


Other:
Rolling stool HF
Creeper HF
Rubber mallet
Brass hammer
Drill bits HF
First aid kit
Fire extinguisher
1/4" insert bit ratchet
Universal joint for sockets
Files
Gasket scraper
Battery terminal cleaner
Wire Stripper
Feeler Gauges/thickness shims
Dial or Electronic caliper HF
Micrometer
Spark Plug Gap gauge
Timing light
Battery charger
Oil drain containers
Engine stand
AC DC stick welder HF
AC DC welder Lincoln


Bill

 

[bczygan]

Today's HF Haul:

Bill

List adjusted for new items.

 

[ToolNuttt]

I'm still using the HF impact sockets daily at work. Never broke one and hurts a lot less if I lose one. The Snap On set sits at home collecting dust.

I recommend buying some premium impact driver bits. I have the Matco ones because they warranty it for me. The HF ones breaks easily and also damage the screws you're trying to take off.

Apex is another good brand to buy but I don't think they warranty. Similar quality to Matco tho.

 

[bczygan]

Vehicle dollies and extendable ratchet added to list from HF dumpster diving.

 

[sberry]

I work on a lot of stuff, havnt needed an oil sender or sensor socket I can recall, save your money and buy it if you actually need one. Even a real shop uses some of this on occasion, the diy never.

 

[bczygan]

I work on a lot of stuff, havnt needed an oil sender or sensor socket I can recall, save your money and buy it if you actually need one. Even a real shop uses some of this on occasion, the diy never.

I'll switch them to the not needed list.

Bill

 

[fasteddie313]

I work on a lot of stuff, havnt needed an oil sender or sensor socket I can recall, save your money and buy it if you actually need one. Even a real shop uses some of this on occasion, the diy never.

I had one forever and had no idea what it was, until one day I had an oil leak on a Toyota in a blind spot, figured out what it was and was feeling it and was like "wow that feels like it would fit that crazy socket.."

Sure enough, the crazy socket fit the crazy feeling round thing..

 

[bczygan]

Updated:
Potential tool list:

Next on the list:
Work light LED
4 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Impact Socket Extension Set HF 67926 7.99
4 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Quick-Release Extension Bar Set HF 61968 22.99
Dental picks
Sockets handle trays, deep metric to 27 shallow too.
Electrical Terminal Kit and Crimper
LED 12 volt for testing coil on plug, etc. ($3 or so at electronic supply house)
Scanner wide data logging Actron CP9135?
3 in. High Speed Composite Air Cut-Off Tool HF 68832 19.99
Astro Pneumatic 9401 10-Piece Snap Ring Pliers Set APT-9401 28.99
Mapp gas - CL
External retaining ring pliers Matco
45 Pc Titanium Nitride Coated Alloy Steel SAE Tap & Die Set 61411 84.99
45 Pc Titanium Nitride Coated Alloy Steel Metric Tap & Die Set 61410 84.99
Irwin damaged fastener tool set Screw extractor set?
IRWIN Tools BOLT-GRIP Deep Well Bolt Extractor Set, 5-Piece (3094001) 34.23
Stainless Steel Tweezers Set 6 Pc HF 93598 5.99
Wrenches long box end metric
Offset Box Wrench Set Metric 8 pc HF 32042 15.99
Offset Box Wrench Set SAE 8 pc HF 32041 15.99
Shallow sockets
Thread restoration kit Craftsman SAE and Metric 48 pc 971 2750 54.99
Hex sockets ball end long 3/8" SAE HF 67885 14.99
Hex sockets ball end long 3/8" Metric HF 67888 14.99
Hex sockets 1/2" impact 8 pc SAE 67893 29.99
Star sockets 1/2" impact 8pc HF 61336 29.99
Better organization for wrenches
SAE everything...
Factory service manual 2002 Astro Van
435.00

For Service Cart:
Mount for nitrile gloves
Mount for paper towels
Mount for
Shelf
Side cabinet?
Electrical outlet
Air hose rack and fitting
Working on better storage for service cart. Took numerous things out of packaging to save space.

Would like:
1/2 in. Drive Impact Flip Socket Set 3 Pc HF 62491 11.99
1/2 in. Drive 25 in. Professional Breaker Bar HF 62729 19.99
1/2 in. Drive 18 in. Breaker Bar HF 67932 9.99
3/4 in. Drive 20 in. Quick Release Breaker Bar HF 98270 21.99
Titanium Nitride Coated High Speed Steel Step Bit Set 3 Pc HF 60379 13.99
11 or 18 piece brake caliper set HF?
Disc Brake Pad and Caliper Service Tool Kit 18 Pc ABN Sears 24.99
Bearing Separator and Puller Set HF 62593 49.99
Master Fuel Injection Pressure Test Kit HF 62788 89.99
1/2 in. Drive Front Wheel Drive Axle Lock-Nut Socket Set 7 Pc HF 62842 39.99
1/2 in. Drive Super High Torque Lug Nut Impact Socket Set 11 Pc HF 62899 69.99
Silver And Deming Drill Bit Set 8 Pc HF 61892 34.99
2 Pc. Professional Automotive HVLP Air Spray Gun Kit HF 61472 49.99
Helping hands HF 60501 4.99
Small MIG welder
Air chisel
Spring compressors - Would like center one
Interior body panel tools - Have HF plastic - couple more HF
Short and long wobble extensions - Have some
Deep sockets - Have some
Oil Filter Wrench (assortment of strap and cap types) - Have some
Extensions locking and 3/8 - Have some
Special pliers cable cutters - Have some
322.00

Not needed yet:
Stubby wrenches
O2 sensor and oil sender socket set HF
Rear caliper cube - Not needed
Cordless impact - Not needed
Offset wrenches box end metric
Quick disconnect tools
1/2 in. Drive Front Wheel Drive Axle Lock-Nut Socket Set 7 Pc HF 62842 39.99
Axle nut socket set powerbuilt O'Reillys?
Body panel clip pliers HF 67399 7.99
Push pin pliers HF 67400 9.99
Leslie blind seal puller
CV joint boot band installation tool
Air chucks for pressure testing cylinders
Compression tester
Fuel pressure gauge
Vacuum gauge
Chain Wrench
Roofers magnet - Use HF magnet bar
Stud remover
AC tools
Disconnect tools
Hex shaped connector removal tool
2nd cart
Hose cutting tool - Use utility knife
Hose disconnect tools HF
Really long 90 degree pliers
Big channellocks
Curved needlenose
Heavy Duty Slide Hammer and Puller Set 16 Pc HF 63268 69.99
wrenched chopped wrenches S wrenches
Eastwood pro flaring tool set - use small set
Specialty wrenches
Brass rubber mallet HF - Have separate ones
Cable actuated hose clamp pliers
Bolt-Type Wheel Puller Set HF 62620 14.99
MAC flare set
Balance puller
Block tester
Noid Light and IAC Tester Set 11 Pc HF 97959 39.99
183.00

HAVE:
02543

GW:
8923
9700
9900
82307
87329
8922
Kobalt:
0236279
swivel metric set
70128
0338623 hex
0338552
0338358
0338511
0338622
0338614
0338616
0338621
0338620
0338615
0338617
0338637
0338636
0338552
0338509
4 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Quick-Release Extension Bar Set HF 67976 19.99
1/4 in. Drive Professional Low Profile Ratchet HF 62329 16.99
3/8 in. Drive Professional Low Profile Ratchet HF 62328 17.99
1/2 in. Drive Professional Low-Profile Ratchet HF 62330 19.99
1/4 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Ratchet HF 62331 16.99
3/8 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Long Handle Ratchet HF 62333 24.99
1/2 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Long Handle Ratchet HF 62332 29.99
1/4 in. Drive Heavy Duty Composite Ratchet HF 66312 8.99
3/8 in. Drive Composite Quick-Release Ratchet HF 62290 9.99
3/8 in. Drive Indexable Head Ratchet HF 62316 16.99
1/2 in. Drive Indexable Head Ratchet HF 62315 19.99
Spark plug sockets - variety
Air pressure gauges and fittings
Tubing cutters
9-piece-wobble-extension-set HF 31203
4 Piece High Visibility Socket Adapter Set HF 67925 4.99
3 Pc Universal Impact Joint Socket Adapter Set HF 67986 9.99
03655
9 Pc Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 61278 14.99
31203
9 Pc Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67900 14.99
21 Pc 3/8 in. Drive SAE & Metric High Visibility Socket Set HF 67905 22.99
Mini Pick and Hook Set 4 Pc HF 66836 free
22 Pc Screwdriver Set HF 69420 11.99
21 Pc SAE & Metric Go-Thru Socket Set HF 62305 19.99

82307
GearWrench 87329 SAE X-Beam 29-Piece Ratcheting Wrench Set
1/2 in. Drive Extendable Ratchet HF 62311 17.99
1500 lb. Capacity Vehicle Dollies 2 Pc HF 67338 52.9965
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Socket Set HF 69345 25.99
8 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Hex Socket Set HF 61337 29.99
3 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Impact Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67065 8.99
3 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67066 9.99
3 Pc Universal Impact Joint Socket Adapter Set HF 67986 9.99
7 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Swivel Socket Set HF 67911 29.99
7 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Metric Impact Swivel Socket Set HF 67908 24.99
2 Pc 20° Offset & 45° Angle Long Reach Pliers HF 61587 7.99
Long Reach Hose Grip Pliers 3 Pc HF 37909 14.99
2 Pc. 16 in. Long Reach Pliers Set HF 38598 11.99
Left Hand Drill Bit Set 13 Pc HF 61686 7.99
E reverse Torx sockets metric
Titanium Nitride Coated High Speed Steel Step Bit Set 2 Pc HF 96275 19.99
11 Pc Fully Polished Metric Long Handle Combination Wrench Set HF 47067 24.99
14 Pc Metric V-Groove Combination Wrench Set HF 63063 39.99
37 Pc 3/8 in., 1/2 in. Drive SAE & Metric Impact Socket Set HF 68011 29.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Deep Wall Socket Set HF 69279 24.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive SAE Impact Deep Wall Socket Set HF 69280 24.99
Flex sockets
Pry bars Craftsman
4 Pc Heavy Duty Pry Bar Set HF 1654 10.99
Screwdrivers misc, and HF
Mirror & magnet tools extendable
Flashlights misc
Small screwdrivers misc
Brush - Have
Electrical tape
Teflon tape
Pliers misc
7 mil Nitrile Powder-Free Gloves 50 Pc X-Large HF 61774 9.99
9 mil Nitrile Powder-Free Gloves 50 Pc X-Large HF 61743 12.99
Long 90 degree pliers HF
Torx or star sockets
Allen sockets metric and SAE
Blow mold 1/4" socket and ratchet set Gearwrench
Office paper clips for cam belts
Crowsfoot wrenches metric
3/8 in. Drive 17 in. Breaker Bar HF 67931 8.99
1/2 in. Drive 25 in. Breaker Bar HF 67933 12.99
Torque wrench HF 3 sizes
4 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Socket Extension Set HF 67972 9.99
Impact extension size converters HF
3/8" Extensions locking and regular HF
Air ratchet - Husky
4# hand sledge
4 lb. Neon Orange Dead Blow Hammer HF 41800 11.99
Side cutters
Ball Joint Service Kit for 2WD and 4WD Vehicles HF 63279 89.99
14 Piece Master Ball Joint Adapter Set HF 62785 72.99
Magnetic parts dishes 4" and 6" HF
Brake Bleeder and Vacuum Pump Kit HF 60770 24.99
Tie rod and Pitman arm puller HF 62708 14.99 - Get puller kit?
Ox/ac set
Coolant tester
Calipers HF
Micrometer
Rivets
3-in-1 Riveter Kit HF 94300 16.99
Multi-meter Milwaukee
7 Function Digital Multimeter with Backlight HF 92020 free
Test light incandescent HF
Drum brake tools
1.5 Ton Compact Aluminum Racing Floor Jack with Rapid Pump® HF 62160 79.99
Arcan Aluminum floor jack 3 ton ALJ3T 249.99
3 Ton Steel Jack Stands HF 61196 21.99
6 ton Steel Jack Stands HF 61197 39.99
Wheel chock
1/2 in. Professional Air Impact Wrench HF Earthquake 68424 89.99
Safety glasses and face shield
Pancake air compressor - Porter Cable
Alignment punches
Chisels - Have a selection
Hacksaw - Have a couple
Vise - Have a few
Picks HF small set - Get better?
Grease gun - Learn to use
Flaring tool set small - Good for now for brake lines
Vise grips - Have a few
Channel locks
Ryobi Dremel (type) with 3 accessory kits
1200.00

Supplies:
Super lube HF
Brake cleaner
Kroil
PB blaster
Wheel bearing grease
Brake lube
Anti-seize
Shop towels
Paper towels

Shop Equipment:
Bench grinder !/2HP Baldor
Grinders with wire wheels and stones and buffs
Drill press Buffalo
Bridgeport
Lathe South Bend
Horiz. band saw Kalamazoo
Parts washer
Arbor press Grenard
12 ton H-Frame Industrial Heavy Duty Floor Shop Press HF 33497 119.99
Hose reel
Disc sander Kalamazoo
Belt sander Kalamazoo
Anvil
120.00

Other:
Pneumatic Roller Seat HF 46319 25.99
40 in. 300 lb. Capacity Low-Profile Creeper HF 69262 23.99
Rubber mallet
Brass hammer
Titanium Nitride Coated Drill Bit Set 29 Pc HF 61637 14.99
First aid kit
Fire extinguisher
1/4" insert bit ratchet
Universal joint set metric for sockets
Universal joint set SAE for sockets
Files
Gasket scraper
Battery terminal cleaner
Wire Stripper
Feeler Gauges/thickness shims
Dial caliper
Electronic caliper HF
Micrometer
Spark Plug Gap gauge
Timing light
Battery charger
Oil drain containers
Engine stand
AC DC stick welder ARC-180 HF 44568
AC DC "Tombstone" stick welder Lincoln
65.00

Bill

 

[bczygan]

As I work to assemble my tools and furthermore, to list them, it becomes very apparent to me, that even when you leave out rebuilding engines and transmissions, that it takes a large variety and quantity of tools to work on even your own vehicles.

I do note that I have some multiples that aren't necessary, but that still doesn't negate the fact that you need a large variety of tools.

You could use my list as a shopping list to set up a personal garage shop.

Bill

 

[d.mcfarland]

There are 3 breaker bars on your list that all do the same thing. No point of buying 3 of them. The 1/2" longest would be the only one you should need. If that doesn't work and an air impact doesn't work then you're out of twisting options and need to move to a new plan.

 

[bczygan]

HAVE:
02543?

82307?

03655?

RATCHETS, SOCKETS,EXTENSIONS AND SETS:
Gearwrench 8922 23 Pcs. SAE Pass-thru Socket & Bit Set 8922 33.00
Kobalt 7-Piece SAE 3/8-in Drive 12-Point Flex Socket Set 0236279
Kobalt 7-Piece Metric 3/8-in Drive 12-Point Flex Socket Set 86218
Kobalt 22-Piece Thru-Ratchet Set 70128
Kobalt 7-Piece 3/8-in Drive Hex Driver Socket Set 0338623
Kobalt 24-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Mechanic's Tool Set with Hard Case 0338552 Kobalt 35-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Mechanic's Tool Set with Hard Case 0338358
Kobalt 16-Piece Standard/Metric Mechanics Tool Set 0338511 35.00
Kobalt 7-Piece 3/8-in Drive Hex Driver Socket Set 0338622 19.00
Kobalt 11-Piece Standard (SAE) 3/8-in Drive 6-Point Socket Set0338614 26.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Metric 1/2-in Drive 12-Point Socket Set 0338616 27.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Metric 1/2-in Drive 12-Point Socket Set 0338621 37.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Standard (SAE) 1/2-in Drive 12-Point Socket Set 0338620 37.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Metric 3/8-in Drive 6-Point Socket Set 0338615 26.97
Kobalt 11-Piece Metric 3/8-in Drive 12-Point Socket Set 0338617 27.97
Kobalt 10-Piece Metric 1/4-in Drive 6-Point Socket Set 0338637 14.97
Kobalt 10-Piece Standard (SAE) 1/4-in Drive 6-Point Socket Set 0338636 14.99
Kobalt 24-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Mechanic's Tool Set with Hard Case 0338552 19.98
Kobalt 20-Piece Standard (SAE) and Metric Combination Mechanic's Tool Set 0338509
4 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Quick-Release Extension Bar Set HF 67976 19.99
1/4 in. Drive Professional Low Profile Ratchet HF 62329 16.99
3/8 in. Drive Professional Low Profile Ratchet HF 62328 17.99
1/2 in. Drive Professional Low-Profile Ratchet HF 62330 19.99
1/4 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Ratchet HF 62331 16.99
3/8 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Long Handle Ratchet HF 62333 24.99
1/2 in. Drive Professional Flex Head Long Handle Ratchet HF 62332 29.99
1/4 in. Drive Heavy Duty Composite Ratchet HF 66312 8.99
3/8 in. Drive Composite Quick-Release Ratchet HF 62290 9.99
3/8 in. Drive Indexable Head Ratchet HF 62316 16.99
1/2 in. Drive Indexable Head Ratchet HF 62315 19.99
1/4" insert bit ratchet
Spark plug sockets - variety
9-piece-wobble-extension-set HF 31203
4 Piece High Visibility Socket Adapter Set HF 67925 4.99
3 Pc Universal Impact Joint Socket Adapter Set HF 67986 9.99
9 Pc Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 61278 14.99
9 Pc Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67900 14.99
21 Pc 3/8 in. Drive SAE & Metric High Visibility Socket Set HF 67905 22.99
21 Pc SAE & Metric Go-Thru Socket Set HF 62305 19.99
1/2 in. Drive Extendable Ratchet HF 62311 17.99
Gear Wrench 23-piece 1/4" Drive Metric Socket Set 8923 25.00
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Socket Set HF 69345 25.99
8 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Hex Socket Set HF 61337 29.99
3 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Impact Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67065 8.99
3 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Wobble Socket Extension Set HF 67066 9.99
3 Pc Universal Impact Joint Socket Adapter Set HF 67986 9.99
7 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Swivel Socket Set HF 67911 29.99
7 Pc 3/8 in. Drive Metric Impact Swivel Socket Set HF 67908 24.99
E reverse Torx sockets metric
37 Pc 3/8 in., 1/2 in. Drive SAE & Metric Impact Socket Set HF 68011 29.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Metric Impact Deep Wall Socket Set HF 69279 24.99
13 Pc 1/2 in. Drive SAE Impact Deep Wall Socket Set HF 69280 24.99
Flex sockets
Torx or star sockets
Allen sockets metric and SAE
Blow mold 1/4" socket and ratchet set Gearwrench
Universal joint set metric for sockets
Universal joint set SAE for sockets
4 Pc 1/2 in. Drive Impact Socket Extension Set HF 67972 9.99
Impact extension size converters HF
3/8" Extensions locking and regular HF

WRENCHES:
Torque wrench HF 3 sizes
Crowsfoot wrenches metric
GearWrench 87329 SAE X-Beam 29-Piece Ratcheting Wrench Set
11 Pc Fully Polished Metric Long Handle Combination Wrench Set HF 47067 24.99
14 Pc Metric V-Groove Combination Wrench Set HF 63063 39.99
GearWrench 9700 7 Piece Flex-Head Combination Ratcheting Wrench Set SAE 9700 48.41
GearWrench 9900 7 Piece Flex-Head Combination Ratcheting Wrench Set Metric 9900
GearWrench 87329 SAE X-Beam 29-Piece Ratcheting Wrench Set 87329

1/2 in. Professional Air Impact Wrench HF Earthquake 68424 89.99
Air ratchet - Husky

SPECIALTY TOOLS:
Ball Joint Service Kit for 2WD and 4WD Vehicles HF 63279 89.99
14 Piece Master Ball Joint Adapter Set HF 62785 72.99
Brake Bleeder and Vacuum Pump Kit HF 60770 24.99
Tie rod and Pitman arm puller HF 62708 14.99 - Get puller kit?
Drum brake tools

MISC.:
3/8 in. Drive 17 in. Breaker Bar HF 67931 8.99
1/2 in. Drive 25 in. Breaker Bar HF 67933 12.99
Pry bars Craftsman 2 pc
4 Pc Heavy Duty Pry Bar Set HF 01654 10.99
Left Hand Drill Bit Set 13 Pc HF 61686 7.99
Titanium Nitride Coated Drill Bit Set 29 Pc HF 61637 14.99
Titanium Nitride Coated High Speed Steel Step Bit Set 2 Pc HF 96275 19.99
2 Pc 20° Offset & 45° Angle Long Reach Pliers HF 61587 7.99
Long Reach Hose Grip Pliers 3 Pc HF 37909 14.99
2 Pc. 16 in. Long Reach Pliers Set HF 38598 11.99
Pliers misc
Long 90 degree pliers HF
22 Pc Screwdriver Set HF 69420 11.99
Screwdrivers misc, and HF
Small screwdrivers misc
4# hand sledge
4 lb. Neon Orange Dead Blow Hammer HF 41800 11.99
Rubber mallet
Brass hammer
Alignment punches
Chisels - Have a selection
Safety glasses and face shield
Mini Pick and Hook Set 4 Pc HF 66836 free
Magnetic parts dishes 4" and 6" HF
Coolant tester
Rivets
3-in-1 Riveter Kit HF 94300 16.99
Mirror & magnet tools extendable
Flashlights misc
Brush - Have
Teflon tape
Tubing cutters
Hacksaw - Have a couple
Picks HF small set - Get better?
Grease gun - Learn to use
Flaring tool set small - Good for now for brake lines
Vise grips - Have a few
Channel locks
Ryobi Dremel (type) with 3 accessory kits
Files
Gasket scraper
Office paper clips for cam belts

ELECTRICAL:
Multi-meter Milwaukee
7 Function Digital Multimeter with Backlight HF 92020 free
6/12V Circuit Tester with 5 ft. Lead HF 30779 3.99
Electrical tape
Battery terminal cleaner
Wire Stripper
Feeler Gauges/thickness shims
Spark Plug Gap gauge
Timing light
Battery charger
Side cutters

MEASUREMENT:
Dial caliper
Electronic caliper HF
MicrometerS
Calipers HF

Supplies:
Super lube HF
Brake cleaner
Kroil
PB blaster
Wheel bearing grease
Brake lube
Anti-seize
Shop towels
Paper towels
7 mil Nitrile Powder-Free Gloves 50 Pc X-Large HF 61774 9.99
9 mil Nitrile Powder-Free Gloves 50 Pc X-Large HF 61743 12.99

SHOP EQUIPMENT:
Vise - Have a few
Ox/ac set
Pancake air compressor - Porter Cable
Air pressure gauges and fittings
Bench grinder !/2HP Baldor
Grinders with wire wheels and stones and buffs
Drill press Buffalo
Bridgeport
Lathe South Bend
Horiz. band saw Kalamazoo
Parts washer
Arbor press Grenard
12 ton H-Frame Industrial Heavy Duty Floor Shop Press HF 33497 119.99
Hose reel
Disc sander Kalamazoo
Belt sander Kalamazoo
Anvil
AC DC stick welder ARC-180 HF 44568
AC DC "Tombstone" stick welder Lincoln

OTHER:
UtiliTech 1000 lumen work light
1.5 Ton Compact Aluminum Racing Floor Jack with Rapid Pump® HF 62160 79.99
Arcan Aluminum floor jack 3 ton ALJ3T 249.99
3 Ton Steel Jack Stands HF 61196 21.99
6 ton Steel Jack Stands HF 61197 39.99
Pneumatic Roller Seat HF 46319 25.99
40 in. 300 lb. Capacity Low-Profile Creeper HF 69262 23.99
First aid kit
Fire extinguisher
Engine stand
1500 lb. Capacity Vehicle Dollies 2 Pc HF 67338 52.9965
Oil drain containers
Wheel chock

 

[bczygan]

There are 3 breaker bars on your list that all do the same thing. No point of buying 3 of them. The 1/2" longest would be the only one you should need. If that doesn't work and an air impact doesn't work then you're out of twisting options and need to move to a new plan.

Already have a couple of breaker bars. A short and a long would do, but strong enough, and with ends that let you get to where you need to.

Bill

 

[bczygan]

Picked up a work light. Plug in 1000 lumens. Under $20 at Lowes.

Bill

 

[bczygan]

Also picked up a few silverware trays at the resale today. They should work well for organizing wrenches and such. Got the idea here on GJ. They had a half off day so 40 cents to 90 cents ea.

Photos later.

Bill

 

[DGersic]

This is a good thread. Sberry, Signcrafter and Adam.C are all right.

Not everything on the list is something I need. Like the 4WD spindle nut sockets or the cordless impact.

I need to find a balance.

One funny thing, is while my wife sometimes gripes about more tools, she is now pushing me to do more work on the vehicles. She even wants me to do rear end and trans work now, to save and keep her favorite vehicles.

So keep the suggestions coming. Like the plastic pry tools (I already have).

Bill

I have both cordless and air impact wrenches here. They're both useful, just different. The cordless is good when I just need something quick and don't want to wait for the compressor to fill up. The air impact is good when I'm using it in the garage over the course of a day. Cordless is *great* for a run to the local junkyard. I was able to grab a set of front seats one day, over my lunch break from work, including time to drive there and back, with the cordless impact to zip the attaching bolts out.

 

[DGersic]

Use a regular combination wrench to break them free then use a ratcheting wrench for convenience. Takes 2 seconds to grab two wrenches and another 2 seconds to switch wrenches. Ratcheting wrenches make a huge difference when working in tight spaces. Get a good set and treat them right.

I agree with others...make sure you have the basics then expand from there whether it is a tool needed for the next job or a tool to make your work easier.
Happy tool shopping.

Agreed. Don't think of the gearwrench box/open combo wrench as a poor combo wrench, think of it as a really low profile ratchet. I have a small set of gearwrench combos, and they don't get a lot of use, but where they shine is in low clearance areas where a ratchet won't fit and a regular box end is tedious.

 

[DGersic]

Thank you for your suggestions. I'm picking up real MAPP gas on CL.

The kind of worklight I'm looking for is a 120V 1,500 or 2,000 lumen LED that has a small stand. It will light a large area. Like this:

Bill

Nice looking light, but it looks too big to be useful in automotive work unless you have a lift. I've never found that I had too many lights of various types and shapes, mostly for the ability to stick or wedge them somewhere that I needed lit, but I don't think I'd use that one much.

I have the cordless version of this one:

https://www.farmandfleet.com/products/970849-designers-edge-26-watt-handheld-task-light.html

that I've found to be reasonably useful in, around, and under the cars. It's bright enough to light up whatever I'm working on, and can be put where I need the light to be. It hasn't replaced my corded drop light, because the convenience of just pulling it down and using it still wins out, but it's close.

 

[bczygan]

Nice looking light, but it looks too big to be useful in automotive work unless you have a lift. I've never found that I had too many lights of various types and shapes, mostly for the ability to stick or wedge them somewhere that I needed lit, but I don't think I'd use that one much.

I have the cordless version of this one:

https://www.farmandfleet.com/products/970849-designers-edge-26-watt-handheld-task-light.html

that I've found to be reasonably useful in, around, and under the cars. It's bright enough to light up whatever I'm working on, and can be put where I need the light to be. It hasn't replaced my corded drop light, because the convenience of just pulling it down and using it still wins out, but it's close.

I've got a couple of corded fluorescent lights like the one you linked. We use them for camping. Also have a couple Craftsman LED sticks I need to find the chargers for. Also a Coast head lamp.

Can't have too many light choices.

Bill

 

[jdlong]

Long pattern combo wrenches and the thread restore kit would top the next on list if it were me. Just sayin. The last thing you want is to bust a caliper bolt off a steering knuckle because the tapped holes were dirty and corroded.

 

[jetnow1]

Don't see fire extinguisher, first aid kit or safety glasses in your list.

 

[MN_Runner]

@Bill,
you are buying HF tools like there is no tomorrow. Trust you will have a long healthy and productive retirement period. Those HF should have a great resale value if you ever get tired of fixing your cars. 50% loss on HF tools is better than 50% loss on SO or Mac or Matco. Buying tools is cheaper than gambling since not all will be lost.

 

[bczygan]

Don't see fire extinguisher, first aid kit or safety glasses in your list.

They are in there...

 

[bczygan]

@Bill,
you are buying HF tools like there is no tomorrow. Trust you will have a long healthy and productive retirement period. Those HF should have a great resale value if you ever get tired of fixing your cars. 50% loss on HF tools is better than 50% loss on SO or Mac or Matco. Buying tools is cheaper than gambling since not all will be lost.

I'm quite happy with the lot as it comes together.

When I die, it all goes to oldest step son. So probably limited use for a limited time.

I'm documenting it here, as an exercise in what a necessary home kit would be.

It will evolve over time.

I started out with GearWrench at Advance Auto and Sears, Then Kobalt at Lowes and finally Harbor Freight for the rest. Plus a mix of garage sales and CraigsList.


Bill

 

[bczygan]

Long pattern combo wrenches and the thread restore kit would top the next on list if it were me. Just sayin. The last thing you want is to bust a caliper bolt off a steering knuckle because the tapped holes were dirty and corroded.

Already have the long pattern combos in metric.

Will get SAE.

Thread restore is on the want list.

Bill

 

[Gmonkee]

You are well beyond 'home kit' and into Indy shop mechanic range.

But nothing wrong in that. Keep on this and the big roller cab may be required.

 

[bczygan]

You are well beyond 'home kit' and into Indy shop mechanic range.

But nothing wrong in that. Keep on this and the big roller cab may be required.

I'm trying to resist the idea of a set of 3/4" drive.

I do have a couple of military trailers...

Bill