Blast cabinet dust collector

[RMR&C]

I'm trying to find out what would be the best dust collector for my blast cabinet. I use the cabinet to remove rust from car parts, so I have to use a pretty aggressive media. Currently I am using crushed garnet. Problem is, it's pretty dusty and I have just killed my 2nd shopvac. Is there a collector made specifically for media blasters? Will the woodworking type work or will the abrasive just tear them up? What do you guys use? Any help is appreciated

 

[NUTTSGT]

I'm using blast sand (silica sand)most of the time, glass bead the rest of the time. I bought a small Craftsman shopvac. It's working so far. I'll buy another when it pukes.

http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_10...e=Wet-Dry+Vacs&prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=L3

 

[bchee]

Here is a water trap on toolguyd from shopngarage

http://toolguyd.com/2010/03/shop-tip-5-gallon-bucket-diy-fine-dust-collection-trap

 

[Keyblazer]

I have a smallish HF blast Cabinet, and I use a shop vac...
The trick is to use the bags for Drywall inside the shopvac... They are designed to filter and retain smaller fine particles and keep them out of the motor.
They are cheap enough to replace every few months or, to pull them out when you wanna use the vac for other stuff..
Like this:
http://www.shopvac.com/shopvac-acce...lter-Bags-for-25-Gallon-Tanks__919-46-00.aspx

 

[ghnl]

I use a shop vac with a 'Dust Deputy' cyclone seperator. It works well - >90% of the dust stays on the seperator, the shop vac's filter stays clean and thus suction doesn't drop off.

 

[Goobzilla]

I got a Sears shop vac with a HEPA Filter Cartridge.

 

[Stephenw]

Here is mine...

Dust Separator

 

[e-tek]

The water system is a real "cats-***" set up, but a vaccuum with the tank bag works just as well I find.

 

[RMR&C]

Thanks for the input........I was using the "water filtration" method right before my last vac died, seemed to work real well. Will likely go back to it....I was just wondering what else was available.

Stephenw, can you explain how your setup works?

 

[Stephenw]

Thanks for the input........I was using the "water filtration" method right before my last vac died, seemed to work real well. Will likely go back to it....I was just wondering what else was available.

Stephenw, can you explain how your setup works?

Did you check my link? I have a drawing and operational description on my site.

http://shopngarage.com/2010/07/blast-cabinet-dust-filter/



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[RMR&C]

Did you check my link? I have a drawing and operational description on my site.

http://www.shopngarage.com/forum/index.php?topic=196.0



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Sorry, didn't see the link. Looks pretty simple....gives me some ideas to improve my filter set up. Thanks

 

[pgreen]

After killing a couple shop vacs, and practically going deaf listening to them, I invested in one of these:

http://www.sandblasting.com/sandblast-dust-collectors.html

Econoline is the brand I got. Their factory is in Grand Haven, Michigan, just 20 minutes from my place. They ship, and I believe they also sell through Grainger and other places. If you use your blast cabinet much, it is well worth it. I also added one of their lights to my cabinet. Now when I turn on the cabinet light, the dust collector kicks on automatically.

No connection, just a happy customer!

 

[mdbeck1]

After killing a couple shop vacs, and practically going deaf listening to them, I invested in one of these:

http://www.sandblasting.com/sandblast-dust-collectors.html

Econoline is the brand I got. Their factory is in Grand Haven, Michigan, just 20 minutes from my place. They ship, and I believe they also sell through Grainger and other places. If you use your blast cabinet much, it is well worth it. I also added one of their lights to my cabinet. Now when I turn on the cabinet light, the dust collector kicks on automatically.

No connection, just a happy customer!

I didn't see a price on their web site. Would you mind telling us a rough price of what you paid/retail?

 

[daveroy]

Did you check my link? I have a drawing and operational description on my site.

http://www.shopngarage.com/forum/index.php?topic=196.0



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StephenW,

Just a design question.. Other than looks/balance issues is there any reason to have the dust tube run inside the collection tube on your design? Are there some cooling issues or something like that that I am not aware of? would two 'ports' right at the top of the bucket (with tubes into the water inside the bucket) work just as well.

I ask because I wanted to place mine under the cabinet. Using a 5Gal bucket should give plenty of room for two ports and still keep it short enough (I think). But I didn't know if the 'tower' served some alternate purpose.

Dave

 

[zmotorsports]

After killing a couple shop vacs, and practically going deaf listening to them, I invested in one of these:

http://www.sandblasting.com/sandblast-dust-collectors.html

Econoline is the brand I got. Their factory is in Grand Haven, Michigan, just 20 minutes from my place. They ship, and I believe they also sell through Grainger and other places. If you use your blast cabinet much, it is well worth it. I also added one of their lights to my cabinet. Now when I turn on the cabinet light, the dust collector kicks on automatically.

No connection, just a happy customer!

This is similar to the one I use. Although not an Econoline it looks pretty close to this. I bought mine with my cabinet as an accessory because I had heard that the shop-vac don't last and are louder. Mine is over fifteen years old now and other than having to clean it three to four times a year is has not given me a second of grief. I use the crushed glass beads in mine. Mike.

 

[Stephenw]

StephenW,

Just a design question.. Other than looks/balance issues is there any reason to have the dust tube run inside the collection tube on your design? Are there some cooling issues or something like that that I am not aware of? would two 'ports' right at the top of the bucket (with tubes into the water inside the bucket) work just as well.

I ask because I wanted to place mine under the cabinet. Using a 5Gal bucket should give plenty of room for two ports and still keep it short enough (I think). But I didn't know if the 'tower' served some alternate purpose.

Dave

I just wanted to build it really complicated.

Here is a simplified design by Goodfellow...

Goodfellow's Design

 

[PCO6]

I just wanted to build it really complicated.

Here is a simplified design by Goodfellow...

Goodfellow's Design

It's a liitle hard to tell from the photo below but mine is like the Goodfellows design. I shoot with my right hand and the media exhausts through port in the floor on the left side. It works great and is easy to maintain.

 

[tcianci]

I made an enclosure for a HEPA filter out of a 2 gallon plastic paint bucket with a snap on lid. I put a fitting through the side of the bucket and that fitting attaches to the outlet on the blast cabinet. I put another fitting through the bottom of the bucket(therefore on the inside of the filter) and that fitting attaches to a cheap shop vac. Same vac for quite a few years now and when I empty out the filter bucket, I dump the collected dust and abrasive into my pressure blaster for one last go-round before its junk.

 

[spongerich]

I built one similar to Stephenw's I opted to skip the pipe in a pipe design and ran 2. The intake comes down to about 3" above the bottom of the can and has some slots cut in it to minimize bubbling. The hookup to the shop vac runs about 3" through the lid. Works great. I already had a tall 10 gallon plastic can, so the whole thing cost about $20 in PVC pipe and fittings.

I was using the filter bags in my vac, but at $5 each, it gets costly.

 

[Shadowdog500]

My blast cabnet has a little squirl cage built in. I put a sock over the discharge and dump the media from the sock back into the cabinet every now and then. I dont use it every day and it works good enough for me.

Chris

 

[farmerbob]

I'm new to this forum having done an internet search on a blast cabinet dust solution. I used Goodfellow's original design and it is the "cat's meow". Was unable to obtain a list of parts from the provided link (forum appears to have been taken down). But since you gents were kind enough to provide this dust entrapment design, i'd like to share my parts list. I'm using a small 2gal craftsman wet/dry vac with the smaller diameter vac hose. both hoses slip fit to the threaded side of the couplers on my parts list without modification.

NIPCO 1 1/4 " PVC - parts purchased for around 8-9 bucks.

1 4ft section PVC (two pieces cut at 2 1/4 inches to pair fittings above and below lid, one cut at 12 inches to reach water level)
1 90degree elbow (glue type) - used below lid
1 coupler (glue type) - used below lid
2 couplers (one side glue, the other male thread) - both used above lid with threads up

used a 5 gallon bucket that I get my pool HTC in. These are heavy duty with screw-on lids so if you have a friend that has a pool, ask them if they have one handy.

Again, thanks for the valuable information.

 

[Stephenw]

I'm new to this forum having done an internet search on a blast cabinet dust solution. I used Goodfellow's original design and it is the "cat's meow". Was unable to obtain a list of parts from the provided link (forum appears to have been taken down).

Welcome to the forum. I updated the links.

 

[isaac338]

It's a liitle hard to tell from the photo below but mine is like the Goodfellows design. I shoot with my right hand and the media exhausts through port in the floor on the left side. It works great and is easy to maintain.

I like your cab, PCO6.. what are the dimensions?

(sorry for the hijack)

 

[JimmyM]

www.tptools.com for all your blast cabinet needs,,
I have the vac34 on my home built cabinet, works very well and is similar to the econoline mentioned above,
isaac338 check out tp tools web site they have the plans to build a cabinet out of 2 sheets of 3/4" plywood thats what I have

 

[JimmyM]

by the way,, has anyone used the dust collector from Harbor Freight for a blast cabinet? it looks as though it could work quite well

 

[e-tek]

Nice 1st post farmerbob!!!!

 

[PCO6]

I like your cab, PCO6.. what are the dimensions?

(sorry for the hijack)

The cabinet is 40" wide, 28" high and 28" deep. It's made of galvanized sheet metal from an HVAC supplier. I can't recall the guage but I would guess it's about 20g. The stand is 32" high. It's about 35 years old and I've put it through a lot of use. I initially set it up for a syphon feed blaster but switched to a pressure blaster (big improvement).

It loads through the front and the arm holes are in the door. I used to use a combination of rubber gloves and car tire inner tubes for my arms but that was less than ideal. I cut down the tubes and now just wear long rubber gloves that are the full length of my arms. They seal well when I put my arms through. It I can also pass small parts through the door without even opening it. I have the door glass cut for me at an auto glass shop. As mentioned, I use a simple vacume / water pail system and there is virtually no dust while I am blasting

Here are a few more pictures of it ...

 

[Stuey]

I'm new to this forum having done an internet search on a blast cabinet dust solution. I used Goodfellow's original design and it is the "cat's meow". Was unable to obtain a list of parts from the provided link (forum appears to have been taken down). But since you gents were kind enough to provide this dust entrapment design, i'd like to share my parts list. I'm using a small 2gal craftsman wet/dry vac with the smaller diameter vac hose. both hoses slip fit to the threaded side of the couplers on my parts list without modification.

NIPCO 1 1/4 " PVC - parts purchased for around 8-9 bucks.

1 4ft section PVC (two pieces cut at 2 1/4 inches to pair fittings above and below lid, one cut at 12 inches to reach water level)
1 90degree elbow (glue type) - used below lid
1 coupler (glue type) - used below lid
2 couplers (one side glue, the other male thread) - both used above lid with threads up

used a 5 gallon bucket that I get my pool HTC in. These are heavy duty with screw-on lids so if you have a friend that has a pool, ask them if they have one handy.

Again, thanks for the valuable information.

Sorry about that - didn't know the forum was closed. The broken links have since been removed.

Thanks for the parts list - great 1st post!

 

[mad57]

Goodfellow's Design
is a good idea...its been used for awhile as a dry wall dust less sanding tool,it has saved me for yrs in a custys home.

 

[bchee]

that ***** to hear about shopngarages

stephen and goodfellow have some awesome ideas

 

[DustCollectors Rock]

Hello,
I realize this is an old post, but I have a question that relates to this topic.
If I decide to invest in a certain dust collector preferably in blasting applications, are there things I should look out for when buying?

I know any dust collector isn't cheap.

-Kaitlyn

 

[astroracer]

I built this cheap dust collector out of two kitty litter buckets and a shop vac filter. The motor is from Harbor Freight. I have about 130 dollars into it.... It works very well, I will use it without even thinking about it in the closed up shop during the winter...
Just saying, you don't have to spend big bucks.

A shop vac hose runs from the cabinet to the upper box.

I empty this out about twice a year, knock the dust off the filter and go back to work.
The really nice thing is, it all fits in the blast cabinet when it's not in use.
Mark

 

[DustCollectors Rock]

Looks pretty good. I have noticed there are a lot of people that DIY collectors instead of purchasing one. I also find it awesome that you used kitty litter buckets. Anything to keep the dust out right? lol

-Kaitlyn

 

[OccupantRJ]

I fabricated my own cyclone system from an old water tank. Link here.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121914

 

[M35A2]

I just use one of these on a 5 gallon bucket and a shop vac....works great!

https://www.oneida-air.com/anti-static-dust-deputy-diy-cyclone-separator

 

[brownsmustang]

Keep an eye out on the facebook market place. I found a Delta 50-721 dust collector for 125$. I use it for my blast cab and my pc booth.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Looks pretty good. I have noticed there are a lot of people that DIY collectors instead of purchasing one. I also find it awesome that you used kitty litter buckets. Anything to keep the dust out right? lol

-Kaitlyn

Got to keep the dust out. I have the vent/output of my shopvac vented outside through the roof like a DWV.

 

[SGKent]

how do these compare to the $50 Oneida unit?

$19
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QL68J5P/?tag=atomicindus08-20

$29
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H73DNXP/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[BearsFan315]

well i spent the money to get the name brand cause of all the reviews and ratings, maybe the other knock off will work just as good. i bought one, and then bought the rest of hte parts and made a setup that works great, still using it and in fact will be using it again this weekend to blast a few more parts. Eastwood Benchtop Blast Cabinet Item #30721 Assembly

 

[clubairth]

That's a great question and hope anybody that has run either one of those units will report back?

I went with the original dust deputy at around $100 with the bucket. Now you can certainly use your own 5 gallon bucket and save a few bucks too.

I will say that is a wonderful modification to my box. Really keeps my vacuum clean and I have the proper blast cabinet type vacuum NOT a shop vac with a water bong on it.

Over the years I have had to replace the vacuum motor twice at around $100. I hope and plan that I will never need to replace another motor but we will see.

Note that the final exhaust into that blue bag was a complete failure and I DON'T recommend anybody doing this!! Covered my shop in very fine dust.
I am sure you are breathing all that fine dust too.

I just removed the blue bag and plumbed the final out put thru a wall and out of my shop.
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