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Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT British Garage planned

Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.

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Bump This build thread Bazz, any progress with the fine spell we are having? you should be romping along :headscrat hope its not come to a halt.:3gears:
 
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For something to come to a halt it has, by definition, to be moving in the first place!

I was away celebrating the 50th birthday of the Hillman Imp over the bank holiday weekend so enjoyed the good weather. Spoke to the builder this morning and he should be coming over next week with his digger driver to look at the garden again. access is poor so the digger guy is coming to see what size digger he can get in.

So, hopefully, I'll have some sort of update next week.
 

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You should be able to get a mini digger anywhere and the dig will only take a day if you have a couple of skips to cart the spoil away, Ive done this sort of work for years, your builder friend will have the base in in a week tops.:thumbup:
 
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Mini-digger not an issue but the skip lorry may not get down the back. May have to be a 'small' skip lorry with smaller skips = more expense! Builder wanted to use a grab lorry to keep cost down (3 skip loads for the price of 1.5 skips) but there's no way one will get down the back. Normal skip lorry might make just it, will probably have to get one of the drivers to take a look.
 
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Slight update. Should have the finance sorted in a couple of weeks so can then tell the builder to start work!

Apparently the grab lorry driver reckons he can get down the back alley so if he's right, that'll save me a few quid.
 
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Cheers guys! Once I ditch the lock-ups the finance is only going to cost me about £30/month more which I can easily save by not eating one day each week - my waistline will benefit too!
 
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Finance sorted. Cleared some more vegetation from the garden and had a small bonfire. Cut the tree trunk down to a stump ready for the digger to dig it out.

Builder should be here Thursday to make a start.

Looks like it's actually going to happen!
 

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Good news on your impending ground breaking!

Timber frames are all good, if you find a good timber yard you could design and frame it yourself.


Long story cut short I'm part way into my small back garden m/c workshop build,
600mm dwarf walls, timber frame on top, less than 2.5m high for permitted development.

The biggest consideration was stopping damp to the timber frame, so I took the painful decision to back it off 200mm from the closest adjacent boundary wall.

You'd be suprised how cheap proper wood is from a proper trade yard, frame companies do slap on a premium for the convenience, I'm going for big ******* 100x100mm beams all round!


Looking like it'll be good and enjoy!
 
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Day One:

From this:

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Via these:

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Shed base
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Trench for power and water:
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Starting to clear where the garage will be:
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Breaking up the old garage base:
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East footings started:
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To this - how it was left today:
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The big pile of dirt and rubble should be gone by mid-morning. Then it will be completing the power and water lines then backfilling the trench. Then the remainder of the footings should be dug and hopefully the concrete for them will arrive in the afternoon.

Amongst all the detritus found buried in the garden were these:
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An old scythe minus its handle and an old shoe last. The latter just needs a good clean.
 

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HIi looking good, bet your glad to be started. how deep is the trench for the waterpipe? remember doing mine years ago and had to be a minimum depth like 750mm or something like that
 
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Water needs to be a minimum of 2'6" deep. (so yeah 750mm for metrical people) any shallower and you risk freezing or mechanical damage. When I ran mine out to the garage it went into a trench with a new pipe from my LPG tank and some 16mm2 twin and earth armoured cable for the elctric supply. It was a good four foot down as it runs under my yard where it's likely to get a big LPG tanker parked on it. Mind you it was dug by a full size JCB.
 
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bazzateer

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Yep, it's a couple of feet down. Armoured cable arriving today so that trench will be all done by lunch-time.

The depth required for the footings just happened to coincide with the hard compacted gravel that underlays most of this area. So a nice base to build on.

Already had some access issues with the guy who delivered the digger. His trailer only just made it round the corner of the alleyway.
 

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Well done on the starting of the groundwork ive just moved into a new house 4 months ago and am planning to build a 14 x 26 timber framed garage with a concrete base in the backgarden hoping to start next year but its the same with me will be done when money becomes available
Keep up the good work

Mind and backfill your power cable fast so it doesnae walk like you scrap metal did
 
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Yeeeeeeaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!

I bet you are the happiest chap on the block now?

Brilliant to see you start mate - I actually cheered out loud here!

Great news - keep them pics coming.

Cheers
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****** hell! I've been off the Board so long I might be too late with a way to make your garage fit one more car. If you can, either:
  1. change the hinged doors facing the house to a single car garage door; OR
  2. increase the hinged doors to a larger size (one car overhead garage door width).

The idea is that, once you've passed your inspections for the garage and your home's sunroom (if required) you'll then build a "sunroom" extension off the garage, over the doors facing the house that would accomodate one of your smaller cars and still have enough depth to put a door along the side giving you access to the garage. This could have a solid covered roof with clear or partially clear sides. From above, your garage would look like an "L" shape with the garage you've drawn being the fatter, bottom-end of the "L". The "sunroom" extension is a grey-area answer to increasing your garage size - after all, if they make stink you roll the car out of there and put some patio furniture in and call it your relaxing spot :thumbup:.

I moved from England years ago but still have enough family left there to know your pain - I even helped a couple of relatives build a couple of garages/carports when I spent summers there as a teen and we used alot of grey area solutions to accomodate more cars.


Right, here's the sketches: Overall size is about 36' x 22'
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View from alley showing my garage between both neighbour's garages.
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View from the house, the ground slopes from right to left.
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Side elevation showing construction. Roof line slopes at the house end to minimise loss of light from neighbouring gardens
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Alley end showing gable and truss construction.
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Plan view of my plot showing the planned garage between the neihgbouring ones and my house. As you can seee, the garage takes up just under 1/2 of the garden space.
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bazzateer

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Thanks guys!

Interesting ideas there Bob, I should be OK with what I'm building but worth thinking about in the future.

No pics of any value from yesterday (Day 2) as delays with the concrete meant it was a day of spoil removal and general tidying up.

Day 3 (today) should see the concrete in the footings.
 
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Cheers Rian and Droo!

Today was a slow day caused by delays on the part of the concrete guys. Still, we eventually got the concrete down in the footings. A few pics to follow:

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Hello from a Newbie in the Colonies!:bounce:

I will be watching as you progress through building your Garage...:)

I am planning on building one this coming Spring, and am bouncing around this site looking for ideas...

On a side note, I met Grizz on a Truck Forum and found him out here too!!!:rocker:

Ciao!
 
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bazzateer

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Cheers Don, make sure you start a thread when your build begins.

Been away for the weekend, came back this afternoon and progress has been made. Just about ready for the concrete for the floor to go down - pics uploading at the moment so I'll add them later.
 
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bazzateer

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Cheers guys,

This is how it is right now:

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Actually looks smaller than it is in those pics!

The concrete floor will be level with the bricks. Then, once it's cured enough the 6" brick wall to support the garage walls will be added. Hopefully all finished this week if the weather stays good.
 

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Exciting progress! Good luck with the weather and hope they can crack on with it and finish it all this week.
 

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Great to see this moving forwards. I've been following it for a long time and all of the ups and downs of just getting this far. It must be very heartening to see things progressing now.
 
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Main section of concrete floor is down, second section will be done tomorrow. DPM will be overlapped and sealed at both joins before the second section of concrete is layed.

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Also managed to order enough concrete to do the shed base.

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bazzateer

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We had some rain overnight which has left the first section of concrete still a bit 'green' meaning that it will be scuffed a bit when tamping down the second section. The builder offered to delay the second section but as I want this finished by the end of the week I have told him to crack on with it. The finished concrete will end up being covered eventually anyway so cosmetic blemishes aren't a problem.
 

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Good progress Baz

I completely get your hurry to get second slab down.

Rain has screwed with my game too.
Was going to start on prep of Nicola's wheels tonight but wet and damp does paint no good. Will start prep though if not pouring down.
 
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