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Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT British Garage planned

Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.
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Started laying the floor tiles today before work. They're pre-owned and a bit dirty in places but I'm not bothered about a bit of dirt. I'll take some pics tomorrow when I've done a bit more.
 
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Only laid a fraction of them so far so not much to see. Still at work at the moment. Have to get home when the day shift take over and get some sleep before I lay any more and take some pics - but they will come!
 

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When did "Pre-owned" take over from "secondhand" or "Used"? I've even seen car dealers calling second-hand cars "pre-loved"!
 
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'Second-hand' seems to have acquired a bit of a 'second-rate' image these days. 'Pre-owned' doesn't seem to have that cachet. 'Pre-loved'? Might as well say 'Pre-thrashed'!
 
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OK, here's the floor so far:

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The tiles cost me £30 plus some fuel to collect them. An absolute bargain.
 
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I thought you were just painting the floor?
I was but moving heavy metal stuff around was already chipping it in places and then I got the chance of these tiles for £30 - no brainer really.
And for some reason I thought he was laying porcelain or ceramic tile! Not to worry, looks good and definitely a bargain for £30!
Porcelain would be my preference but I simply can't afford it. These will do nicely.
 
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Unfortunately not Rian, my friend's brother was hovering waiting for me to take my lot before he swooped for the rest (about 18sqm - enough for a large single garage only).

The main floor area whole tiles are in place now. Just emptying and moving the shelves to fit the last whole tiles before I start cutting the ones for the edges.

Won't get much done for a few days now as I'm on nights tonight then it's straight from work to Paddington station to catch a train to Wales to pick up the new BMW Touring and drive it home.

On Sunday my brother should be here to help fit the gutters and downpipes. Once they're done the only other part of the build itself that'll remain is to frame the main doors, insulate and board them.
 
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My brother has finished the gutters and downpipes too, so all I have to do is give the sides and one gable end a coat of stain and block off the sides from the alley ends.

Then it'll be the turn of the garden area where the wash-bay will be built along with the ramp into the garage. Not for a while though - no money!
 
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I've just read this right from the start. Your garage is awesome.

Cheers mate! It's a ****** mess at the moment trying to get my Imp back on the road - passed the MoT test the other week then the brakes failed on the way home! Some cack-handedness on my part and some questionable replacement parts have delayed getting it sorted.

What part of Wales you in? Got a few friends there.
 

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I'm in Barry, just outside Cardiff.

I had a similar problem when I had my 86 mini Mayfair, the front brake house was badly perished and went on me during an emergency stop, it was something I should have replaced along time before it went.
 
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Never been to Barry. Got friends in Abergavenny, Raglan, New Tredegar, Llanelli, Mold, Carmarthenshire. Might end up retiring there in 10-15 yrs time.
 
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It's looking amazing. Nice to see a build in the UK with the constraints most of us have with planning and limited funds.
I was looking at a very similar construction for a house we wanted to buy. Unfortunately the house fell through and we decided to stay put but it's great to see that a timber unit can look so good.
What you going to do with all that spare cash and time now it's finished?! (I think I can guess!). Thanks for sharing the build with us.
 

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I have some plans I drew up on excel of what I want the garage to look like but my computer skills aren't good enough to transfer the excel spreadsheet onto here! Any ideas guys?

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Excel? good grief.


There is an excellent open source (free) 3D modeller I use calle SweetHome3D
small learning curve, but infinitely easier than sketchup


http://www.sweethome3d.com/index.jsp

Sweet Home 3D is available in English, French, and 22 other languages.
It may run under Windows, Mac OS X 10.4 to 10.9, Linux and Solaris.
 
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just starting on this and don't want to loose it.

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Hah! I've just about finished it!:bounce:

It's looking amazing. Nice to see a build in the UK with the constraints most of us have with planning and limited funds.
I was looking at a very similar construction for a house we wanted to buy. Unfortunately the house fell through and we decided to stay put but it's great to see that a timber unit can look so good.
What you going to do with all that spare cash and time now it's finished?! (I think I can guess!). Thanks for sharing the build with us.

Spare cash? :confused: :headscrat Nope, dunno what that is!:)

Excel? good grief.


There is an excellent open source (free) 3D modeller I use calle SweetHome3D
small learning curve, but infinitely easier than sketchup


http://www.sweethome3d.com/index.jsp

Sweet Home 3D is available in English, French, and 22 other languages.
It may run under Windows, Mac OS X 10.4 to 10.9, Linux and Solaris.

Tried sketchup back a while but couldn't get on with it. The excel effort was enough to get the ideas across.
 

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just finished the whole thread. absolutely amazing build ! love the "go out on the piss" statement. wish I knew half of your sayings most of my family came from wales in the 1860's .




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just finished the whole thread. absolutely amazing build ! love the "go out on the piss" statement. wish I knew half of your sayings most of my family came from wales in the 1860's .'

Check out the 'Urban dictionary' for any phrases you aren't familiar with.

You guys have some 'strange' ones too. Especially when you say you "could care less" when the context suggests you actually mean you could NOT care less!:eyecrazy:
 
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Small update, took advantage of a day off from work and the warmest Hallowe'en in living memory to apply mahogany stain to the windowed gable end in an attempt to have the mahogany carriage doors blend in a bit better. The doors still need to be sanded and stained but I think it's an improvement.

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The stain looks good. I have never understood why mahogany traditionally gets such a dark stain. It has a very nice, redish look when it is finished with a clear material.
 
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Agreed, the doors actually appear to have a varnish on them rather than a stain so I'm hoping some time with the sander will lighten the colour of them a bit. Then maybe a clear stain.
 

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Me I'd just paint them to match the window in your chosen colour, trying to match the colour of different woods with stain is a total nightmare. I've just spent several days putting Sikkens woodstain on some hardwood railings and the colour is totally different to the same stain used on softwood. Your other option is to strip the doors back to bare wood and go from there but I suspect you'll still end up having to put another coat on the walls to get it even vaguely close.
 
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Hi Phil, you're probably right but at the very least what I have now is an improvement! Looking at the 'varnish/paint' on the doors it seems to be darker than the underlying wood so I'm hopeful!
 

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Baz,

Just read through your whole thread really enjoyed it. In my opinion you came out with a great garage even though you were limited on funds. I too am limited on funds and have to choose between finishing my garage and restoring my wife's 64 Chevy Stepside. Right now the 64' is winning though I am getting a little burned out on it and spending time on GJ is making me want to get my garage insulated and sheet rocked.

Love the Mahogany doors and the outside look of your garage. Can't wait to see what you do with the Garden and wash station.
 
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Had a spare afternoon today so made a start on insulating the two pairs of carriage doors at the alley end of the garage.

This is how they looked when I started:

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Right pair:
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Using spare wood from the bench build and some scraps my brother gave me when he was helping with the ceiling insulation I completed the framing of the doors (as standard they are not fully framed).

Took a fair bit of time because:
a) I'm no carpenter.
b) None of the wood I had was the right thickness so I had to rip every piece.
c) I'm no carpenter.
d) I ran out of screws.
e) I'm no carpenter.

Only managed to do the left pair of doors for now but this is how they look:
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Did I mention I'm no carpenter?

The insulation foam boards had been resting under this blue tarp since early last year:
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When I uncovered them today they were pretty wet/damp. So I've pulled them all out and propped them up in the garage to dry out. I should have enough to put them in double thickness (50mm). Here's some of them drying out:

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If I remember tomorrow after work I'll get some more screws and crack on with framing the right pair of doors while the insulation continues to dry out.
 

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I insulated the woodwork shed like that, and it made a massive difference.

Thing is, you soon forget where you started, and then want more....

Looking great though.
 

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As you are using rigid foam sheet you could have cut it to shape and fitted it without the additional framing or are you planning to put it over the framing to give an air pocket?
 
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For not being a carpenter, it looks like you did a decent job.

I cocked up a few bits but as it'll be hidden behind OSB no-one will notice.

I insulated the woodwork shed like that, and it made a massive difference.

Thing is, you soon forget where you started, and then want more....

Looking great though.

Cheers Rian.

As you are using rigid foam sheet you could have cut it to shape and fitted it without the additional framing or are you planning to put it over the framing to give an air pocket?

The pics are deceptive. In the first pic of the left doors the vertical wood you see at the extreme left of the doors is actually the frame in the gable end. The doors are open at that end. The second pic of the left doors shows the lighter coloured wood I used to close off the ends of the doors.

Now that they are fully framed I am indeed cutting the foam boards to fit. started it this afternoon after work. The frame is about 68mm 'deep' and the foam boards are 25mm. So I'm using small pieces of scrap OSB stuck to the inside of the outer cladding to space the foam away to give a 11mm air gap then doubling up the foam to give 50mm of insulation.

I'll carry on tomorrow after work and try to remember to take some pics.
 

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When you're done, will you put some sort of covering to finish off the inside of them? I really like the outside of the doors.
 
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Yep, once all the insulation is in I'll fit a vapour barrier and then add a skin of OSB which will be painted white. I've got some OSB left over from the walls so will use that but will probabaly have to buy another sheet to complete the job.
 

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Insulation looks good, aswell as the framing.

I should be doing this soon, once the door is fitted.

Keep up the great work.
 
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