To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Bypass safety switch

Bluehealer

Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2019
Messages
7
Location
Kentucky
How do you bypass a safety switch on a garage door opener, I dont care about it may be illegal or that may be unsafe, I bought the damn thing I want the sensors disabled PERIOD!!!!!
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

BCreekDave

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 17, 2015
Messages
206
Location
Dayton, OH
Simplest way may be to remove one side and pull it over face to face with the other side and tap them together. If anyone gets hurt, you are probably on your own as your homeowners insurance will probably abandon you.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Lucky13driver

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 15, 2014
Messages
317
Location
Corpus Christi Texas
I did the same as Old Man Roger. I mounted them facing each other above the opener motor. We don't have children and the only time the garage doors are open I'm eather parking a car or working in the garage. I hate big brother telling me how to live my life.
 

Bruce 993 SEA

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 22, 2016
Messages
1,033
Location
La Conner, WA
I mounted the sensor and reflector facing each other above the spring with enough wire to mount them in the normal place if someone in the future wanted them. In the old house they were a pain but they are not a big deal here.

The way the openers are designed, your have to have the sensors in place. You do not need to have them 12 inches of the ground.
 

like2wheel

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 29, 2014
Messages
1,693
Location
On an as needed basis
I mounted the sensor and reflector facing each other above the spring with enough wire to mount them in the normal place if someone in the future wanted them. In the old house they were a pain but they are not a big deal here.

The way the openers are designed, your have to have the sensors in place. You do not need to have them 12 inches of the ground.

I did the same thing the year my son was born. He made it to college without getting cut in half. I did test the door on my foot, & adjusted it so it didn't need much pressure to reverse it

However, I did drop the door on my bumper a couple times while trying to park shallow to leave room behind to unload something large from back of my SUV. So when I needed a new opener, I mounted those sensors at bumper height & now I know that if the door closes, I have just enough clearance. I mean by a couple inches.

I find that more helpful than inconvenient, wished i'd done it sooner.
But ymmv.
 

logical

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 31, 2005
Messages
2,439
Location
Northern fringe of the Motor City Suburbs
To each their own, but I've had garage openers in 3 different houses since 1987 and never had the sensors cause a problem. I don't recall them ever saving me from being crushed either. They are just there, operating as designed.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
 

LifeLongWNYer

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 23, 2013
Messages
1,231
Location
South of Rochester, NY
I also find problems with the sensors, and since I work alone, I chose to disable them. However, instead of mounting them face to face, to "fake them out" into allowing the garage door to close, I left them mounted properly, disconnected the wires leading to the light source and the eye, and put a jumper where the wirs from the eye connect to the operator.

If I do want to "recommission" the safety sensors, I can do it in about a minute.



.
 
Last edited:

LS6 Tommy

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 27, 2013
Messages
26,162
Location
Northern NJ
My have worked fine for 25 years, my dad's, uncle's, father in laws and others for god knows how long.

I don't get what the isuue is.

Tommy
 

teamextreme

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
867
Location
Lakewood, CO
The issue is sunlight. If your door is oriented is such a position that the sensor is hit by early morning or late afternoon sun, the door won't close. I've had to take a remote and stand with it while blocking the sun for the door to close. Doesn't happen that often, but it's annoying. I've heard of people fabbing some type of sun shield for the sensor.
 

58Yeoman

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 1, 2010
Messages
8,999
Location
Central IL
The issue is sunlight. If your door is oriented is such a position that the sensor is hit by early morning or late afternoon sun, the door won't close. I've had to take a remote and stand with it while blocking the sun for the door to close. Doesn't happen that often, but it's annoying. I've heard of people fabbing some type of sun shield for the sensor.

I've seen where people use paper towel core to make a shield.
 

Jackfre

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 26, 2010
Messages
4,406
Location
N CA
My garage guy mounted them on the mounting bracket for the motor. He just aimed the light at the reflector.

While I understand the need for customer service, and am happy you got what you wanted, your garage guy is an idiot. In all the contractor seminars I've done over the years I always ask the question, "How many of your business decisions are based upon your fear of the trial lawyers association?" Sadly, the answer is about 100%.
 

GMCGarage

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 31, 2017
Messages
1,264
How do you bypass a safety switch on a garage door opener, I dont care about it may be illegal or that may be unsafe, I bought the damn thing I want the sensors disabled PERIOD!!!!!

Im not sure anyone would actually tell you how to do it in a reply due to liability, I spent 30 seconds on google and found many different ways for different openers
 

nes999

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 1, 2014
Messages
1,602
Location
IL
On our new commercial doors they have those eye sensors. The tech left the eye install up to us but instructed us very clearly how not to do it.

He said do not mount it above your motor facing eachother leaving a small gap. If they touch they won't read proper.

Here is a picture I just mocked up for you. This is unsafe do not do this. It'll bypass the safety.
5d09f1b3622902d9969e11c67c5fc426.jpg
 

Attachments

  • 5d09f1b3622902d9969e11c67c5fc426.jpg
    5d09f1b3622902d9969e11c67c5fc426.jpg
    24.5 KB · Views: 1

nadogail

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 23, 2009
Messages
31,904
Location
Coronado, CA
Quick & Dirty solution, but still covering your liability, would be to make a sunshade from a piece of ABS pipe. Black ABS looks more professional than White PVC or a cardboard tube.

The pro fix would be to reverse the position of the sensors to keep the sun from blinding them.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

TTTTTT

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 23, 2014
Messages
164
Location
Steenburg Lake, Ontario
Pretty sure the installation instructions direct you to switch sides with the sensors if sunlight is an issue.
Just finished putting one in. The above is what the manual says if sunlight is a problem. My sensors lines up perfectly the first time with no adjustments needed. I have grandkids. Could not live with myself if something happened. You know kids you can't watch them constantly.


Sent from my ASUS_Z01HD using Tapatalk
 

58Yeoman

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 1, 2010
Messages
8,999
Location
Central IL
I really don't understand the problem with the sensors. Is it because you don't want big brother telling you what to do? Do you also snap your seat belts behind your back so you can stick it to the man? Geez.
 

driz

Well-known member
Joined
May 22, 2008
Messages
701
Location
Northern NY
Funny. I disconnect almost every safety switch I find and for very good reasons. Yet that’s one I just left on there since day 1. I guess I just haven’t had it piss me off enough yet.
I saw the opposite effect when I worked at the border with their radiation sensors. The early models electric eyes had no shield worked fine never a problem. Then they upgraded and put vehicle sensors in that were in a little gunbarrel thing for whatever reason. Damned things were always getting plugged with blowing snow. Stupid malfunction alarm would ring all the time. We’d go out and dig it out with a finger and it would skim right over or fill that tube in a few minutes. Of course GSA just never could figure out the obvious to fix the foolish things, typical. Not their problem.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Ironcrow

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 30, 2005
Messages
1,169
Location
Arizona
I really don't understand the problem with the sensors.
When I go out to walk the dog and put out the trash can I can't push the button on the wall, crab the trash, with the dog on his leash, and simultaneously dive under the descending door, while jumping over the blasted electronic beam. Something has to give. That's the beam.
 

La Petite Tools

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 23, 2018
Messages
95
Location
Indiana
When I go out to walk the dog and put out the trash can I can't push the button on the wall, crab the trash, with the dog on his leash, and simultaneously dive under the descending door, while jumping over the blasted electronic beam. Something has to give. That's the beam.

Couldn't you mount a keypad on the trim on the outside of the garage door?
 

Nermal43

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 11, 2014
Messages
336
Location
Northern California
When I go out to walk the dog and put out the trash can I can't push the button on the wall, crab the trash, with the dog on his leash, and simultaneously dive under the descending door, while jumping over the blasted electronic beam. Something has to give. That's the beam.

This is what I use my keypad for. Single push to close. Of course that doesn't always keep Baxter (see my avitar) from wagging his tail over the sensor and reopening the door one in a while. Still better than a squished dog or kid.
 

csi123

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 26, 2013
Messages
97
The issue is sunlight. If your door is oriented is such a position that the sensor is hit by early morning or late afternoon sun, the door won't close.
You can simply swap the sensors and the wiring at the opener to solve that issue. Only the receiver is sensitive to sunlight.
 

finn

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 27, 2005
Messages
16,185
Location
The UP, God's country
When I go out to walk the dog and put out the trash can I can't push the button on the wall, crab the trash, with the dog on his leash, and simultaneously dive under the descending door, while jumping over the blasted electronic beam. Something has to give. That's the beam.

I stand outside and reach into the garage. The jamb is, what, six or seven inches thick? I mounted a switch on the wall about four inches from the track.

My arms are probably somewhere around thirty inches, so the reach isn’t difficult at all.

Like I said, anyone with the least bit of mechanical aptitude can figure out a better solution than disconnecting or bypassing the safety beams.
 

Bad00SS

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 26, 2018
Messages
232
Location
Rockford, IL
I've had all kinds of problems with them. they are the worst thing ever if you don't have kids. I taped them up by the motor. No way anyone is getting crushed other than kids. if your a single guy there is no need for them stupid things. garage doors without them like my grandpas house has had a door opener since the 1950s prolly and nobody ever got crushed lol.
 

nes999

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 1, 2014
Messages
1,602
Location
IL
It clearly cant be that dangerous if all these commercial buildings dont have sensors. OSHA is up our *** about everything, if it was dangerous they'd add it to the long list of fines.

Sent from my VS988 using Tapatalk
 

XRlifer

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 5, 2016
Messages
62
Location
Salem Oregon
I stand outside and reach into the garage. The jamb is, what, six or seven inches thick? I mounted a switch on the wall about four inches from the track.

My arms are probably somewhere around thirty inches, so the reach isn’t difficult at all.

Like I said, anyone with the least bit of mechanical aptitude can figure out a better solution than disconnecting or bypassing the safety beams.

I've been doing this ^ ^ for years.
 

nes999

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 1, 2014
Messages
1,602
Location
IL
Different set of safeties and different openers on commercial doors. And, when I do facility inspections on commercial facilities, I do red tag the doors if they have residential type springs and openers, and no safeties. OSHA inspectors may also.



The safeties are there for more than just kids. A small, but very real probability is that the springs will break and the door will slam down. Doesn't matter who or what is under it, it's a hazard then.



It's just like seat belts and guards on saws, crotchety old men can find all kind of silly reasons they don't want them, but more rational people use them as intended.



Okay, public service announcement over, you all can go back to chasing the kids off your lawns.

I can see where you're coming from. Having see a door slam down at work it isnt something you want to be under.

Sent from my VS988 using Tapatalk
 

maxpower_hd

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 17, 2015
Messages
2,230
Location
Massachusetts
I did the same as Old Man Roger. I mounted them facing each other above the opener motor. We don't have children and the only time the garage doors are open I'm eather parking a car or working in the garage. I hate big brother telling me how to live my life.

I mounted mine facing each other but above head height so I could walk under the door after I hit the button. BTW the door still goes up if it hits something. At least mine does.
 

driz

Well-known member
Joined
May 22, 2008
Messages
701
Location
Northern NY
Different set of safeties and different openers on commercial doors. And, when I do facility inspections on commercial facilities, I do red tag the doors if they have residential type springs and openers, and no safeties. OSHA inspectors may also.



The safeties are there for more than just kids. A small, but very real probability is that the springs will break and the door will slam down. Doesn't matter who or what is under it, it's a hazard then.



It's just like seat belts and guards on saws, crotchety old men can find all kind of silly reasons they don't want them, but more rational people use them as intended.



Okay, public service announcement over, you all can go back to chasing the kids off your lawns.



Uhhh lets see over all considering everything in life I ever did like airplanes, motorcycles , army ,prisons and police work and I never got really hurt, ILL TAKE THOSE ODDS. Or in more polite terms I fond those odds an acceptable risk.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

99LeCouch

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 18, 2011
Messages
1,053
Location
Rochester, NY
Would hate to see one of my dogs crushed under a garage door if they spook and run back in as its closing. I also saw the old garage door opener bend the door before it reversed. The new openers had the sensors installed as designed.
 

teamextreme

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
867
Location
Lakewood, CO
You can simply swap the sensors and the wiring at the opener to solve that issue. Only the receiver is sensitive to sunlight.

Good to know, but since the wires are integral to the sensors I would have to either cut and splice the wire (not a huge deal), or re-route wire that is stapled and secured above an insulated, dry-walled ceiling (not possible). If your door's reverse sensor is adjusted properly, your kid/dog whatever won't be killed by a door anyway. They might get a bruise or scrape and more importantly might learn a lesson, but they won't die. Having said that, my sensors are still in place because the issue has only happened a couple times, not enough to annoy me enough to remove them. I don't go in/out my door that often and it only happens at certain times of the year when the sun is at the right angle.
 

ratdoggy

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 27, 2009
Messages
11,971
Location
Akron-Canton area OH
When I go out to walk the dog and put out the trash can I can't push the button on the wall, crab the trash, with the dog on his leash, and simultaneously dive under the descending door, while jumping over the blasted electronic beam. Something has to give. That's the beam.

My control in the garage gives you 10-15 seconds to get out of the garage before closing...
But I also put a doorbell button inside next to the door I hit when I'm out of the garage in case the battery dies in the controller
 

kbs2244

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 11, 2006
Messages
14,065
The install manuals I haven have a "how to disable" page for commercial installs.
It is just a remove a jumper on the logic board thing.
(You cannot just short the wires. They have been there before you on that one.)
All kinds of "DO NOT" "DANGER" warnings.

But before I knew that I had installed mine looking at each other through a TP tube.
I tucked it up by the motor with some zip ties.
 

firebirdparts

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 8, 2016
Messages
10,578
Location
Kingsport, TN
Different set of safeties and different openers on commercial doors. And, when I do facility inspections on commercial facilities, I do red tag the doors if they have residential type springs and openers, and no safeties. OSHA inspectors may also.

The safeties are there for more than just kids. A small, but very real probability is that the springs will break and the door will slam down. Doesn't matter who or what is under it, it's a hazard then.

It's just like seat belts and guards on saws, crotchety old men can find all kind of silly reasons they don't want them, but more rational people use them as intended.

Okay, public service announcement over, you all can go back to chasing the kids off your lawns.

For somebody that’s totally clueless, you did a nice job wordsmithing. I liked the superiority particularly well.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom