Can anyone help identify these three tools.
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Oregon Dave
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My guess is they are handles to hold hot tools in the blacksmith trade.
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Or to work close to hot materials
crguy
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The tool on the bottom is used to pound caulking in between the boards on a wood hulled boat.
Well, you will find one on eBay and it happens to be correct but in general eBay tool listings are full of sellers just repeating the incorrect listings of previous sellers.
Beerhippie
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I'm disagreeing withe the caulking tools idea. Why the long handles? The caulking irons I've seen in use were simply hand-held.
I'm going with blacksmith tools. The top one a punch for making holes in hot metal, the lower one a chisel for cutting hot metal.
The chisel of the lower tool appears to have been a brick-cutting chisel in a previous life.
I'm going with blacksmith tools. The top one a punch for making holes in hot metal, the lower one a chisel for cutting hot metal.
The chisel of the lower tool appears to have been a brick-cutting chisel in a previous life.
3baygarage
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I was thinking along those lines but don't see anything exactly like it yet.
crguy
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You're wrong about the bottom tool. Do some research like the OP did and you will see I correctly identified it.
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Causing irons are usually short hand held tools
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I've never seen a caulking iron with a long handle. I have a few with a similar blade shape. I could see where a long handle would be useful if you wanted to use a long handled hammer. Also nice for reaching in underneath without having to crawl under there. It looks like the one above is able to pivot in the handle/arm. That'd allow it to follow the planks' curvature. Caulking irons have a blunt edge. They're for pushing, not cutting. If it's a blacksmith's cutting tool, I'd expect it to be somewhat sharp, like a cold chisel.
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Perspectives:
The top tool handle could be holding a cold chisel or a punch etc.
The bottom tool handle could be holding a caulking tool or a brick chisel etc.
The fact they were made indicates frequent rather than one-time use to me.
A closer examination may be required, but both handles appear to be blacksmith made rather than say, by Crescent or Utica; typical U.S. ingenuity by someone tired of burning his hand or setting his glove on fire. Reasonable certain these tools were made and used by a blacksmith, at least to the status of ‘definitely maybe’.
I missed the center tool first time, but would not rule out leather/saddlemaker use; pommel/stirrups etc.
The top tool handle could be holding a cold chisel or a punch etc.
The bottom tool handle could be holding a caulking tool or a brick chisel etc.
The fact they were made indicates frequent rather than one-time use to me.
A closer examination may be required, but both handles appear to be blacksmith made rather than say, by Crescent or Utica; typical U.S. ingenuity by someone tired of burning his hand or setting his glove on fire. Reasonable certain these tools were made and used by a blacksmith, at least to the status of ‘definitely maybe’.
I missed the center tool first time, but would not rule out leather/saddlemaker use; pommel/stirrups etc.
RTM
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I believe the correct term is a horsing iron for caulking. From an 1873 book.
From Salamans dictionary of woodworking tools 1973 or so
This 1873 can walk you thru the process
1869 naval book
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From Salamans dictionary of woodworking tools 1973 or so
Dictionary of Woodworking Tools
Since its first publication in 1975, R.A. Salaman's Dictionary of Woodworking Tools has come to be recognized as a definitive pioneering reference work, one of unparalleled value to craftsmen, collectors, antique dealers and all who are interested in the subject of woodworking tools and their...
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This 1873 can walk you thru the process
Shipyard Practice as Applied to Warship Construction
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1869 naval book
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1.1K views · 47 reactions | Just a little horsing around on deck. A horsing iron & beetle (extra big caulking mallet) are used to harden new or added caulk material into deck plank seams prior to pouring pitch. #allwoodallgood | Pride of Baltimor
Just a little horsing around on deck. A horsing iron & beetle (extra big caulking mallet) are used to harden new or added caulk material into deck plank seams prior to pouring pitch....
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Excellent research RTM; with your info was able to locate some decent images of horsing/hawsing irons at:
[https://www.ebay.com/itm/145428042281] &
[https://teddawsonantiquetools.com/products/shipwright-s-26-length-caulking-iron-hawsing]
Perspective: landlocked vs. seaward.
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I was thinking the same way, until RTM's post & re-looking at tape measure in the O.P.
BTW; you list Far NE Oregon. I grew up on a small ranch near Troy; the fridge was the spring at the head of Grouse Creek.
Hi. Yeah, it’s a less common one.
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Found a picture of two men using the long handle caulking tool. Page down in the article listed below.
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Inside Traditional Ship Caulking Tools and Techniques
Last month we described the function and importance of caulking for the health of the ship. Now let’s discuss the materials and tools involved in traditional ship caulking. The whole process is an involved and nuanced craft that can only be learned by doing and practicing it, but there are many...
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Thank-You for the original post.
It solicitated an exercise in ‘old fashion’ human intelligence solving an act of past human ingenuity; we all move on more better ‘educated’.
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I always assumed two-part tools separated the heat. Hmmm. Learn something new every day.