bulletpruf
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Definitely undersized for die grinders and cutoff wheel. Will be very frustrating if you have to use them for anything more than a very small project.
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Definitely undersized for die grinders and cutoff wheel. Will be very frustrating if you have to use them for anything more than a very small project.
CompressorPros.com
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Here is mine: 15.3 acfm, two stage. She's a little loud at 3,500 rpms or so, but it does the trick. I'll probably end up boxing it in and venting it outside.
This is the heaviest draw I have. It has a 45 cfm tip. The compressor does alright, but more cfm would definitely be good...
What's up Darrell? Hope things are good. Love the old compressors. I used to have one, but it just didn't kick out enough cfm for me.
Great little two stage and very popular. We move a lot of them...hard to beat their warranty
Nice compressor! Noise be damned that is a great value.Here is mine: 15.3 acfm, two stage. She's a little loud at 3,500 rpms or so, but it does the trick. I'll probably end up boxing it in and venting it outside.
This is the heaviest draw I have. It has a 45 cfm tip. The compressor does alright, but more cfm would definitely be good...
What's up Darrell? Hope things are good. Love the old compressors. I used to have one, but it just didn't kick out enough cfm for me.
I see they Belair is making compressors for HF. It even says it on their website.
Good buy man!
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CompressorPros.com
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Atlas Copco, who makes BelAire, Chicago Pneumatic, Quincy does make a low cost version of this unit. They also make Cornwell, Mac Tool and NAPA air compressors
b-body-bob
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That looks like a newer version of the 57 model I gave away recently. I was able to do some cutting/grinding with, but patience was needed and it sounded like it was about to beat itself to death after a while. I thought the tank on mine was more than 30 gallons though.
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Here's mine. I bought it used, the guy before me pieced it together. The tank is from an old compressor, the the pump is a champion it does 24 CFM at 100 psi and maxes out at 175psi, and a single phase 5hp motor.
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That is some massive airflow!Here's mine. I bought it used, the guy before me pieced it together. The tank is from an old compressor, the the pump is a champion it does 24 CFM at 100 psi and maxes out at 175psi, and a single phase 5hp motor.
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Kenrevo
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Yah it is, it can run all of my tools. At 175psi it does 20 CFM. The guy only wanted $400 for it but I need to get it out of his basement on my own. It also needed a couple fittings and valves.
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CGT80
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LeRoi Dresser 2avc (same rebuild kit as 400), 5hp, 80 gallon, 17.2cfm at 175psi, pressure lubed. I just got it and it needs a little tlc, after sitting in a field for many years. It runs and pumps very well. Hopefully it has many more years left in it.
aircommuter
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This is my Ingersoll with cooler and auto drain. It is 7.5 hp 3ph, rated 24 cfm@175. It is in this room outside of the shop with my Kohler 50kw generator, it is 12 lead reconnectable setup for 240v 3ph delta. It is powered by a Ford 460, connected to a 500 gallon tank. The room is 120 square feet for easy servicing and cooling area.
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That's the Cadillac of all compressor setups in my opinion. Awesome
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thomfr
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My old (30yrs.) Mecha Concorde Power Block direct drive twin was already a bit sick but the sandblasting and painting of a lot of Volvo parts has given it the last kick.
I have both 240V (16A) and a 400V group in the garage but decided to go for a 240V max 3hp.compressor because I also use it sometimes at my house or outside, for this reason also a horizontal model on wheels. 10 bar max pressure with 90 or 100 Litre tank and around 400 litre air displacement, w.m. about 275 litre per minute effective. I want an European (or US) made pump, no Chinese for obvious reasons.
Up to now I have a few favorites:
Airpress HL 425/100 3hp € 550 excl. tax 425ltr. gross displacement
or:
Airmec KP100/400 3hp € 577 excl. tax 400ltr. gross displacement
or
Airmec CRM 102 2hp € 825 excl. tax. 350ltr gross displacement
I included the last one because 3hp. on 240volt 16A group is on the limit,which means you cannot use long power cords etc. without risking burning out the engine. However the last one is expensive.
Any other 240volt for Europe recommendations?
Thom
I have both 240V (16A) and a 400V group in the garage but decided to go for a 240V max 3hp.compressor because I also use it sometimes at my house or outside, for this reason also a horizontal model on wheels. 10 bar max pressure with 90 or 100 Litre tank and around 400 litre air displacement, w.m. about 275 litre per minute effective. I want an European (or US) made pump, no Chinese for obvious reasons.
Up to now I have a few favorites:
Airpress HL 425/100 3hp € 550 excl. tax 425ltr. gross displacement
or:
Airmec KP100/400 3hp € 577 excl. tax 400ltr. gross displacement
or
Airmec CRM 102 2hp € 825 excl. tax. 350ltr gross displacement
I included the last one because 3hp. on 240volt 16A group is on the limit,which means you cannot use long power cords etc. without risking burning out the engine. However the last one is expensive.
Any other 240volt for Europe recommendations?
Thom
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Jake C
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Finally got mine set up, need to finalize my line routing still. 
Leveleer
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Here's a prototype I made to test an idea.
I think I can safely guarantee you that it's the only one of its type on planet earth .
bulletpruf
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Ok, I'm impressed. How long did it take you to make? Specs? What's the idea that you're testing?
Leveleer
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That particular compressor is one of several I've made since last July.
In this particular model I was attempting to use cams and torsion springs to eliminate the need for a flywheel. The displacement was 11.9 CFM.
Way too complicated and way too expensive but fun and interesting to do.
This is my latest version.
It is a significant improvement over the previous one.
First stage bore is 4 1/2 inches by 1" and 2nd stage is 2.75" bore.
The first stage is double-acting but can't be used that way without a bigger motor. It puts out about 12 CFM as shown.
Runs at 1725 RPM
Frank
Leveleer
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I forgot to mention that I also have a Quincy QT-54.
It might seem a bit strange but I bought it because I couldn't believe how poorly it had been engineered. My plan is to see how much more efficient I can make it.
Bye Bye warranty!
Frank
It might seem a bit strange but I bought it because I couldn't believe how poorly it had been engineered. My plan is to see how much more efficient I can make it.
Bye Bye warranty!
Frank
bulletpruf
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This should be interesting. Let us know if you start a thread on it.
polexican23
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anyone see an issue of mounting a compressor in the attic? yes would install some sort of automatic drain and a power switch in garage area.
CompressorPros.com
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The only thing I feel could be an issue would be heat. As long as there is ventilation of cooler air you should be ok
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Finally got mine set up, need to finalize my line routing still.
Is that plumbed in with PEX?
Jake C
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Its a RapidAir Line Kit, awesome kit for the money. got it on amazon for just under 100 bucks, came with drop downs and 100 feet of line.
Make sure it doesn't vibrate through the rafters/floor etc.
Leveleer
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I'll do that.
The first thing I'm going to do with this compressor is remove all the copper tubing and the ridiculous energy sucking right angle fittings.
I may be forced to take the heads and read valve plates off and rotate them in the opposite direction which is probably where they should have been in the first place.
Frank
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Thanks dude!
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Xicaque
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Keep the guns and sell the baby pancake when you can
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thomfr
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I finally bit the bullet and bought a new compressor
A Javac TX3 4HP EU 230 Volt made in Cheq Republic.
Choose this one mainly because of its free run start, 100% EU made, High output (400ltrs gross, 350 ltrs nett output) low noise due to low revs (72 dba at 950 rpm.) and 5yrs waranty..
Paid € 545 incl. shipping excl. tax.
Some info from the supplier:
The TX-3 SS has for many years been one of the bestsellers in the range of Javac, the designation TX-3 is rooted in the fact that the first javac TX-3 compressors were equipped with a 3 HP (2,2 KW) motor on 230 volts mono, but after improving the crankshaft and the valves of these highly reliable air pump that we use for the TX-3 compressor, we have increased the yield by 25%, therefore we also have developed our special Nano engine with an output of 4 hp at 230 V. lay down a rate of 6 bar at 375 lt. / min. And still with a slow running compressor pump 900 rpm (aspirated flow 450 lt. / Min)
This compressor is built up in a 100 liter thick-walled tank (hence also the weight of 120 kg, ...) along the typical TX and VX interim tank, which has a function to always start the compressor motor in no-load load, and as a result the use of a B3 (nano) engine with low torque. This provides two major benefits: no peak load = lower power consumption, and allows you to run in continuous duty. Although we still recommend to determine the choice of the compressor so that the piston compressor still has a rest of 30% (for industrial continuous load, please refer to our scroll compressors)
The TX-3 compressor is factory set to a pressure of 6 bar (max. 8 bar) but can easily be adjusted to 10 bar maximum pressure of 8 bar pressure. Note that the theory says that the lower the operating pressure of a compressor is set, the longer the service life of the compressor.
Also, the compressor is equipped with an automatic start / stop system (presto stat), a security group, and a practical pressure reducer with two outputs to control the pressure on the compressor itself, there are also 2 Orion links for direct air removal and output of ½ "for connection to a ring line in the work house. This compressor is on two heavy-duty solid rubber wheels, which move easy.
Finally, and this is certainly so important than the compressor itself, is that the TX-3 due to its low rotational speed of the compressor pump on the one hand and on the other hand by the ideal cooling by the V-construction of the pump with chilled finned tube to the non-return valve
Resulting in air quality that is optimal, this gives then relative cold and condensation-free compressed air.
Below you will find a link to a video by our customer of our TX-3 (SS) compressor.
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Thom
A Javac TX3 4HP EU 230 Volt made in Cheq Republic.
Choose this one mainly because of its free run start, 100% EU made, High output (400ltrs gross, 350 ltrs nett output) low noise due to low revs (72 dba at 950 rpm.) and 5yrs waranty..
Paid € 545 incl. shipping excl. tax.
Some info from the supplier:
The TX-3 SS has for many years been one of the bestsellers in the range of Javac, the designation TX-3 is rooted in the fact that the first javac TX-3 compressors were equipped with a 3 HP (2,2 KW) motor on 230 volts mono, but after improving the crankshaft and the valves of these highly reliable air pump that we use for the TX-3 compressor, we have increased the yield by 25%, therefore we also have developed our special Nano engine with an output of 4 hp at 230 V. lay down a rate of 6 bar at 375 lt. / min. And still with a slow running compressor pump 900 rpm (aspirated flow 450 lt. / Min)
This compressor is built up in a 100 liter thick-walled tank (hence also the weight of 120 kg, ...) along the typical TX and VX interim tank, which has a function to always start the compressor motor in no-load load, and as a result the use of a B3 (nano) engine with low torque. This provides two major benefits: no peak load = lower power consumption, and allows you to run in continuous duty. Although we still recommend to determine the choice of the compressor so that the piston compressor still has a rest of 30% (for industrial continuous load, please refer to our scroll compressors)
The TX-3 compressor is factory set to a pressure of 6 bar (max. 8 bar) but can easily be adjusted to 10 bar maximum pressure of 8 bar pressure. Note that the theory says that the lower the operating pressure of a compressor is set, the longer the service life of the compressor.
Also, the compressor is equipped with an automatic start / stop system (presto stat), a security group, and a practical pressure reducer with two outputs to control the pressure on the compressor itself, there are also 2 Orion links for direct air removal and output of ½ "for connection to a ring line in the work house. This compressor is on two heavy-duty solid rubber wheels, which move easy.
Finally, and this is certainly so important than the compressor itself, is that the TX-3 due to its low rotational speed of the compressor pump on the one hand and on the other hand by the ideal cooling by the V-construction of the pump with chilled finned tube to the non-return valve
Resulting in air quality that is optimal, this gives then relative cold and condensation-free compressed air.
Below you will find a link to a video by our customer of our TX-3 (SS) compressor.
Thom
thomfr
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Thanks!
Just a practical question. The new Javac stands on ceramic tiles (our garage floor) and I would not like to drill in them (floor heating). But while busy (but nicely rather silent) the new compressor likes to go walkabout as the Aussies call it. It moves forward slowly but constantly as the cohesion between the rubber plugs and floor is to low.
On the back side it has wheels and on the front rubber plugs to stand on.
Any ideas to keep it rock solid without drilling etc?
Thom