Craftsman Drill Press

[Warped5]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Good work saving the turning design on that trim piece.

I used 0000 steel wool on part of my table saw and it took the engine turning off. Oh well. My drill press is missing that trim piece so I think I'll just make a brushed version.

I learned from FrankLee (also posted earlier in this thread) that you can get Mylar film in an engine-turned pattern. They have it on eBay. Here it is on my DP, just stick it on the headband and trim excess ...

 

[rrich1]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Good work saving the turning design on that trim piece.

I used 0000 steel wool on part of my table saw and it took the engine turning off. Oh well. My drill press is missing that trim piece so I think I'll just make a brushed version.

Thanks. You could try this since you have a drill press [emoji1]

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[ndfan6464]

OK so here's my motor. What's your guys thoughts on this? Mishap waiting to happen? It ran good when tested before I started the restoration. Let me know what you all think and what I need to do.

 

[ndfan6464]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Main pieces are painted, cleared, and on. Still have to paint the table collar and motor and motor pieces. Loving it so far. More pics in my build thread.

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Man buddy that came out killer!!! Nice work...

 

[rrich1]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Man buddy that came out killer!!! Nice work...

Thanks. It looks even better in person. Can't wait to get the rest of the motor painted and get this thing back together. The gray goes so well with the brushed metal and polished pieces.

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[ndfan6464]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Thanks. It looks even better in person. Can't wait to get the rest of the motor painted and get this thing back together. The gray goes so well with the brushed metal and polished pieces.

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I know the feeling. Can't wait to get mine up as well. Just waiting on the main bearings to come in tomorrow and by Sunday she should be done.. after seeing yours I'd hate to post mine. Digging the auto paint wish I would have thought of that.

 

[rrich1]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

I know the feeling. Can't wait to get mine up as well. Just waiting on the main bearings to come in tomorrow and by Sunday she should be done.. after seeing yours I'd hate to post mine. Digging the auto paint wish I would have thought of that.

Yours I'm sure will look great. Post it up! I was initially going to leave the patina but changed my mind mid project. I've got the motor bearings arriving this weekend as well. Hopefully going to have it completed this Monday or Tuesday.

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[bubinga]

I think ANY paint will look good.
Tell ya what looks good too, and your casting(s) don't have to be perfect, is the Rust -oloum Hammered textured paint.

 

[ndfan6464]

So finally got the motor apart. So for you motor experts what do you think? I've started cleaning the carbon off the insulators. Quite a few have broken off at the top. They look like they are made of wood?

 

[rrich1]

So finally got the motor apart. So for you motor experts what do you think? I've started cleaning the carbon off the insulators. Quite a few have broken off at the top. They look like they are made of wood?

I know nothing a out motors but she looks beat.

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[ndfan6464]

I know nothing a out motors but she looks beat.

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Well got the motor back together and running today. Had to do some repairs to it to get it running tip top but she's purring now...

I had to do some spot brazing, build a spring, make a new bearing spacer, fix some wiring, straighten one of the rods that holds all of the motor together, clean it again and I'll have touch up the new paint job I gave it since it got kind of beat up . I'll have pictures of it all back together tomorrow..

 

[rrich1]

Well got the motor back together and running today. Had to do some repairs to it to get it running tip top but she's purring now...

I had to do some spot brazing, build a spring, make a new bearing spacer, fix some wiring, straighten one of the rods that holds all of the motor together, clean it again and I'll have touch up the new paint job I gave it since it got kind of beat up . I'll have pictures of it all back together tomorrow..

Awesome! Good work. Mine is still apart.

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[ndfan6464]

Your motor or press?

 

[Outlawmws]

Glad you got it all together ND!

 

[rrich1]

Your motor or press?

both. lol. going to review the lubricating areas then put it back together. hopefully motor can be put back together on monday.

 

[FrankLee]

I'm looking for some help please.

Who's got a Craftsman 80, 13-1/2" drill press? I would like to know how long the feed stop rod is on an 80... from the bracket to the top of the feed stop rod, not including the 3/8" threaded portion.

Thanks!

 

[Outlawmws]

Sorry Frank, I went to look, and my 80 is the earlier version without a feed stop. (I think this later became the Dunlap model)

 

[Rushton]

This is my first post here but I've been reading in the forum for the past few months. I want to thank all of you who have contributed your knowledge and shared experiences. Particular thanks to @FrankLee - your post from several years ago about how to do a one-person break down and transport of a Craftsman 150 has proven invaluable.

Yesterday I was able to pick up a very lightly used Craftsman 150 (model 103.24511, with Slow Speed attachment) that had been purchased by the owner in 1966 for his home woodworking hobby shop. He rarely used it and it appears nearly mint: the quill is perfectly tight when extended all the way down, there's not a bit of rust on it (well maybe a speck), the original paint is in excellent condition. It's now sitting disassembled per FrankLee's instructions in MY basement woodworking hobby shop. Here's photo:

I'd appreciate some advice on what I should do to put this drill press back into service while I have it disassembled. Given the very light use it's gotten, I suspect there is little to no wear on any of the bearings, but I've not measured run out at the chuck. I don't plan to repaint it, the original paint is in great shape. There is a modest amount of sawdust and shavings accumulated in the head and around the quill and pinion gears.

My thoughts are to:

• Clean out all the saw dust and generally do a clean up of all the surfaces
• Clean all the bare metal surfaces and apply some sort of rust retardant (what?) or light coating of 3-in-One oil like I do on my hand tools.
• Put a bit of light machine oil (3-in-One?) on moving surfaces in the various locks (head, table, quill)
• Pull the quill and spindle from the head to clean and re-lubricate, but not pull any bearings.

Any corrections or suggestions to what I'm thinking to do? What am I not thinking about?

This is the first step in getting my home workshop set up once again after over 20 years of simply being too busy to devote some time with one. I'm looking forward to building a good joiners bench, putting in some other work tables and cabinets, and getting a place I can enjoy doing some woodworking once again.

 

[bubinga]

You can use paste wax on the metal parts too.

 

[Rushton]

Thanks, bubinga.

 

[FrankLee]

This is my first post here but I've been reading in the forum for the past few months. I want to thank all of you who have contributed your knowledge and shared experiences. Particular thanks to @FrankLee - your post from several years ago about how to do a one-person break down and transport of a Craftsman 150 has proven invaluable.

Yesterday I was able to pick up a very lightly used Craftsman 150 (model 103.24511, with Slow Speed attachment) that had been purchased by the owner in 1966 for his home woodworking hobby shop. He rarely used it and it appears nearly mint: the quill is perfectly tight when extended all the way down, there's not a bit of rust on it (well maybe a speck), the original paint is in excellent condition. It's now sitting disassembled per FrankLee's instructions in MY basement woodworking hobby shop. Unfortunately, I don't have a picture to share at the moment.

I'd appreciate some advice on what I should do to put this drill press back into service while I have it disassembled. Given the very light use it's gotten, I suspect there is little to no wear on any of the bearings, but I've not measured run out at the chuck. I don't plan to repaint it, the original paint is in great shape. There is a modest amount of sawdust and shavings accumulated in the head and around the quill and pinion gears.

My thoughts are to:

• Clean out all the saw dust and generally do a clean up of all the surfaces
• Clean all the bare metal surfaces and apply some sort of rust retardant (what?) or light coating of 3-in-One oil like I do on my hand tools.
• Put a bit of light machine oil (3-in-One?) on moving surfaces in the various locks (head, table, quill)
• Pull the quill and spindle from the head to clean and re-lubricate, but not pull any bearings.

Any corrections or suggestions to what I'm thinking to do? What am I not thinking about?

This is the first step in getting my home workshop set up once again after over 20 years of simply being too busy to devote some time with one. I'm looking forward to building a good joiners bench, putting in some other work tables and cabinets, and getting a place I can enjoy doing some woodworking once again.

Welcome Rushton, and thanks for your comments! I always appreciate feedback... especially when it's positive. LoL!

Congrats on your find! I've had only a few like yours with very nice original paint. It really is an uncommon find.

You're on the right track with cleaning it up. My preference is to use synthetic grease and oil (Super Lube) during assembly. I believe it won't gum-up as soon like dino oil. The key is to completely remove the old grease

I'm confused on the model number and the year. If it's truely a 103 model prefix (King-Seeley), it was likely manufactured before 1964 when Emerson Electric took over production of some Craftsman workshop machines.

Ditto on the paste wax. I use Johnson's in the yellow can... under $10 at HD.

I'm looking forward to some pictures and watching your clean-up process. Also, please update your profile with your general location. It's nice to know where folks are from.

 

[bubinga]

Thanks, bubinga.

Thanks, bubinga

 

[ndfan6464]

Well here it is in all its glory..Lol. OK well I know it's not super flashy like most of yours but as you can see in the before and after she looks a heck of a lot better.. Thanks to everyone for the help on my first restoration of a machine this big.

Now can anyone tell me what size belt this takes. Again this is a 103.0305

 

[smalltown]

Looks great ND nice work !

 

[ndfan6464]

Looks great ND nice work !

Thanks small-town!

 

[rrich1]

Well here it is in all its glory..Lol. OK well I know it's not super flashy like most of yours but as you can see in the before and after she looks a heck of a lot better.. Thanks to everyone for the help on my first restoration of a machine this big.

Now can anyone tell me what size belt this takes. Again this is a 103.0305

Good job! Looks great.

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[rrich1]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

Here is where I am at until tomorrow. Friend has the spindle pulley and motor pulley. Motor is still apart until tomorrow as well when we can rewire and cover some of the frayed wires.

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[FrankLee]

Well here it is in all its glory..Lol. OK well I know it's not super flashy like most of yours but as you can see in the before and after she looks a heck of a lot better.. Thanks to everyone for the help on my first restoration of a machine this big.

Now can anyone tell me what size belt this takes. Again this is a 103.0305

Yep, looks great! Hopefully you can find a belt cover.

I like Autozone cogged belts. Take your old belt and they can measure it. You can get a belt +/- 2" or so. Check the v-belt link in my first post regarding belt sizes and cost.

 

[FrankLee]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

I'm looking for some help please.

Who's got a Craftsman 80, 13-1/2" drill press? I would like to know how long the feed stop rod is on an 80... from the bracket to the top of the feed stop rod, not including the 3/8" threaded portion.

Thanks!

Here is where I am at until tomorrow. Friend has the spindle pulley and motor pulley. Motor is still apart until tomorrow as well when we can rewire and cover some of the frayed wires.

rr,

I like it!

Can you please measure the feed stop rod for me?

 

[rrich1]

Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press

rr,

I like it!

Can you please measure the feed stop rod for me?

Sure. Give me a few min.

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[rrich1]

I'm looking for some help please.

Who's got a Craftsman 80, 13-1/2" drill press? I would like to know how long the feed stop rod is on an 80... from the bracket to the top of the feed stop rod, not including the 3/8" threaded portion.

Thanks!

I measured 6 1/8"

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[FrankLee]

I measured 6 1/8"

Thanks!!!

 

[Rushton]

Welcome Rushton, and thanks for your comments! I always appreciate feedback... especially when it's positive. LoL!

Congrats on your find! I've had only a few like yours with very nice original paint. It really is an uncommon find.

You're on the right track with cleaning it up. My preference is to use synthetic grease and oil (Super Lube) during assembly. I believe it won't gum-up as soon like dino oil. The key is to completely remove the old grease

I'm confused on the model number and the year. If it's truely a 103 model prefix (King-Seeley), it was likely manufactured before 1964 when Emerson Electric took over production of some Craftsman workshop machines.

Ditto on the paste wax. I use Johnson's in the yellow can... under $10 at HD.

I'm looking forward to some pictures and watching your clean-up process. Also, please update your profile with your general location. It's nice to know where folks are from.

It was an amazing find. I'm trying to get a copy of the picture used in the original CL posting to share. If the seller can get it to me, I'll post it. I added to my profile, so now folks can see I'm in Richmond VA.

The original owner purchased the drill press in 1966 so perhaps it had been sitting in inventory for a while. I agree it's a King-Seeley built machine - it's truly a 103 model. Glad to now have the likely year of manufacture!

Thanks for the suggestion on the lube. I have some synthetic grease (Renolit Syn 940 made by Fuchs Lubritech in Illinois). I've had an unopened tube of it in a storage box for 20 years, but I suppose it will still be good.

The son was selling his dad's woodworking tools in preparation for the dad moving to assisted living space. I got an opportunity to look at some other items in the workshop and was able to also get:

• a 10" quick release under the bench woodworkers vice built by Columbian for Craftsman in "as new" condition, model 506.51890 (will be installed on the bench I plan to build)
• a large X-Y vise for the table in very good condition - no indication of the manufacturer on it other than a "100" cast into the base.

 

[FrankLee]

It was an amazing find. I'm trying to get a copy of the picture used in the original CL posting to share. If the seller can get it to me, I'll post it. I added to my profile, so now folks can see I'm in Richmond VA.

The original owner purchased the drill press in 1966 so perhaps it had been sitting in inventory for a while. I agree it's a King-Seeley built machine - it's truly a 103 model. Glad to now have the likely year of manufacture!

Thanks for the suggestion on the lube. I have some synthetic grease (Renolit Syn 940 made by Fuchs Lubritech in Illinois). I've had an unopened tube of it in a storage box for 20 years, but I suppose it will still be good.

The son was selling his dad's woodworking tools in preparation for the dad moving to assisted living space. I got an opportunity to look at some other items in the workshop and was able to also get:

• a 10" quick release under the bench woodworkers vice built by Columbian for Craftsman in "as new" condition, model 506.51890 (will be installed on the bench I plan to build)
• a large X-Y vise for the table in very good condition - no indication of the manufacturer on it other than a "100" cast into the base.

Very nice! My understanding of the Emerson take-over date came from a vintage machine website, so it's probably third-hand information.

Great score on the extras! I love my 10 incher and use it all the time! http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5137549#post5137549

 

[Rushton]

Great score on the extras! I love my 10 incher and use it all the time! http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5137549#post5137549

Yes, I'm delighted to get the Craftsman 10" QR vise. It will sit at the end of the bench and my primary face vise will be a lovely old Record 52 1/2 like this one: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1844979&postcount=20

The two in combination will provide me with all the clamping configurations I may use.

 

[ndfan6464]

Yep, looks great! Hopefully you can find a belt cover.

I like Autozone cogged belts. Take your old belt and they can measure it. You can get a belt +/- 2" or so. Check the v-belt link in my first post regarding belt sizes and cost.

Thanks for the information. I'll check your post out.. as far as the cover. I am going to fabricate a replica of the original. Was going to see if someone could or would be willing to get me some measurements of theirs or I was just going to wing it off pictures.

 

[bubinga]

Yep, looks great! Hopefully you can find a belt cover.

I like Autozone cogged belts. Take your old belt and they can measure it. You can get a belt +/- 2" or so. Check the v-belt link in my first post regarding belt sizes and cost.

Plus 1 on the cogged V belt, and taking it to the parts store.

Thanks for the information. I'll check your post out.. as far as the cover. I am going to fabricate a replica of the original. Was going to see if someone could or would be willing to get me some measurements of theirs or I was just going to wing it off pictures.

I'm sure someone will take measurements for you!
How are you going to fabricate a replica of the original?
Sounds interesting. looking forward to seeing it.
Are you making it out of wood? Sheet metal and Tiger hair and Bondo?
Casting out of aluminum?

 

[ndfan6464]

Plus 1 on the cogged V belt, and taking it to the parts store.

I'm sure someone will take measurements for you!
How are you going to fabricate a replica of the original?
Sounds interesting. looking forward to seeing it.
Are you making it out of wood? Sheet metal and Tiger hair and Bondo?
Casting out of aluminum?

Well was quickly looking over the machine drawing up some sketches and measurements I was thinking of working with some sheet metal or aluminum, little welding, piano hinge. It's just in the beginning stage of getting it worked out. Really need some measurements to get a better match.. So we'll see how it comes out. I'll definitely post as it comes alive

 

[bubinga]

Sounds cool. Could always use a little bondo too if needed.

Yep, looks great! Hopefully you can find a belt cover.

I like Autozone cogged belts. Take your old belt and they can measure it. You can get a belt +/- 2" or so. Check the v-belt link in my first post regarding belt sizes and cost.

BTY, It does look nice!

Yeah, + 1 on the +/- on the belt length.
Because keep in mind, @ 2" difference, of course, the belt is on both sides of the pulley, so we are talking only a 1" difference.
I would just factor in, how far in or out the motor/motor mount sits from the press. You know, If its real close to the press, might not want to go shorter.

And on the other hand, if it's pretty far away, You may not want the belt longer.
But you probably l'm sure knew that.......LOL
Might be just me, but I don't like the motor slid too too far back.
Just feel it's more solid, somewhat closer, But in "real life".......lol.......it probably don't matter.

pretty Bad A$$ looking pipes on the bike. Can't see the motor too well, Is it
a Sportster?

 

[Rushton]

I managed to recover a picture of that Craftsman 150 model 103.54511 I posted about earlier today. Here's the photo:

And here's a link to that earlier post about this find: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6309566&postcount=658