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Thanks Hoorn. Yes, Rustoleum Charcoal Gray. I know these early machine were a lighter gray but I really don't like the look of that color. The machine is now living in its new home so I can't take any more pics. The lamp is simply screwed into the wooden top of the stand. I used stainless steel panhead screws. The chrome hub is pretty much in the condition I received it in from Frank. All of the chrome on this had that horrible popcorn ceiling look to it except for the return spring assembly. I got the hub and quill lock handle from Frank and the table lock handle from another seller. I was unable to find another large lock handle for the head so it's just running a bare bolt for now. It'll probably stay that way. I'm 56 years old and have yet to ever move a drill press head on the column unless I'm taking it apart. The decal on the lamp is a jimsenginedecals product. I make my own waterslide decals from time to time with so-so success. They always turn out looking great to begin with and more authentic than an adhesive vinyl decal but I've had many of them lose color and/or start peeling off. I was afraid the heat from the lamp would trash my waterslide efforts so I went with Jim's work. I left the lamp on for an hour to let it cook good with no negative results to the decal. I have used some of Matt's work on a few grinders I've rebuilt.

If I ever figure out how to post pics without going through my entire photo album to reduce the size of them for the benefit of the new GJ forum programming, I'll post some more of this machine.

Incidentally, and you probably already know this, King Seeley made many of those embossed lunch boxes like the one in your avatar.
 

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Frank, any suggestions on how to disassemble the reeves pulley's on a vari-slo? I'm a good chunk of the way through a resto and really want to get them cleaned properly, but they're firmly stuck on despite my best efforts. Trying to figure out how I can get more leverage on them without damage.
 
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Frank, any suggestions on how to disassemble the reeves pulley's on a vari-slo? I'm a good chunk of the way through a resto and really want to get them cleaned properly, but they're firmly stuck on despite my best efforts. Trying to figure out how I can get more leverage on them without damage.
Firstly, welcome!

In the first post of this thread, there are a couple links in the Options and Accessories section to posts discussing the Vari-Slo. Unfortunately, in one of them, all photos are missing. The text may be useful tho. I'll have to look into that.
 
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Frank, congratulations on the 100. That is one hell of a milestone. Think of all that history you have touched.

Jo, that lamp is the cats pajamas. Very cool accessory that is rarely (at least by me) seen.


As I type this I have chosen to come to work this morning rather than hit a nearby estate sale that has a 150 at it. Not sure how I feel about that but I know more DPs are in the future.

Happy hump day all.
 
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Thanks Jeff! I just finished the refurb of DP#100 this morning. It is stunning!


Note to all...
Several of my posts are missing pictures. It seems that Flickr reassigned URLs for some reason. Post #2566 is an example. I've discovered several other posts, but have not gone through the entire thread. I'll do my best to restore those pictures that are missing, but it will take some time.
 
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Frank DP #100 looks like it belongs in a Sears showroom. Outstanding.

I'd like to invite you to look at a very interesting Delta 220 I found yesterday. It's in the vintage tools section. 1938-41 Delta DP 220 is the post title.

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Better pic of the lamp decal. I made the water slide Powr Panl decal. If it goes south I'll replace it with one from Jim. IMG_0759.JPGIMG_0458.JPGIMG_0628.jpgIMG_0757.JPGIMG_0760.JPG
Heck of a job on this one JoCoSawdust! It came out real nice! Plus i love what you did with the power panel... did you put a grounded plug on the back side ? Thanks to you , now i want to find a powr panel to mount similarly to my late 40's dp... Your lamp looks great as well! I have an edison led in mine to keep the heat down. It is a medium size to make it easier to change as well.
 

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Franklee- heck of a job on DP #100...how fitting that your 100th is such a nice example...even though it is emerson made, it still is something to be proud of.
 

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Frank, I agree, your DP #100 looks showroom floor new!

Thanks 11B. These lamps seem to fall into my lap for some reason. So far every Heritage era machine I've rebuilt has gotten one of them. I move most of the Heritage machines I do down to my son in law to outfit his shop. I just picked up a little 80 that I'm going to keep just because I like looking at the little guy. It almost looks like a salesman sample of a drill press.

Smokes: That's not an actual Powr Panl. I have several of the real deals but I don't like the fact that they're not grounded. I've seen a few "conversions"...they've all looked horrible in my opinion. What you're looking at on mine is an aluminum project box that I turned into a faux Powr Panl. It just houses the switch, which I like on the right side of a DP. I've got a single gang work box mounted under the wood top. It's wired to the service cord and provides power to both the DP and the light. I like how it turned out and that will be my go-to switch application for machines in the future.

Hoorn: That Delta you found is killin' me.........
 

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Frank, I agree, your DP #100 looks showroom floor new!

Thanks 11B. These lamps seem to fall into my lap for some reason. So far every Heritage era machine I've rebuilt has gotten one of them. I move most of the Heritage machines I do down to my son in law to outfit his shop. I just picked up a little 80 that I'm going to keep just because I like looking at the little guy. It almost looks like a salesman sample of a drill press.

Smokes: That's not an actual Powr Panl. I have several of the real deals but I don't like the fact that they're not grounded. I've seen a few "conversions"...they've all looked horrible in my opinion. What you're looking at on mine is an aluminum project box that I turned into a faux Powr Panl. It just houses the switch, which I like on the right side of a DP. I've got a single gang work box mounted under the wood top. It's wired to the service cord and provides power to both the DP and the light. I like how it turned out and that will be my go-to switch application for machines in the future.

Hoorn: That Delta you found is killin' me.........
Ok, now i see what you did with that. I thought something look slightly off from the other powr panels I have seen. Still, I think most folks wont pickup on the fact that it isn't an original. Nice work!
 
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This thread continues to inspire!

Frank DP #100 looks like it belongs in a Sears showroom. Outstanding.
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Franklee- heck of a job on DP #100...how fitting that your 100th is such a nice example...even though it is emerson made, it still is something to be proud of.

Frank, I agree, your DP #100 looks showroom floor new!
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Thank you all.


BTW, we have a Nordic Track treadmill we want to get rid of. It has a very good variable speed motor and controls which could be converted to drill press use. Southeast Michigan. Send a message if interested.
 
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This past Friday, I picked up two machines in another bundle deal. I saw the band saw advertised on fbmp and wanted the motor for my Craftsman metal lathe. When I got to the seller's place, he also had a 13-1/2" Craftsman drill press available, so I bought both.

The band saw is a 12" Craftsman 3-wheel, model 103.24300. It's actually a decent machine and runs well after a minor clean-up.

I refurbished the Hunter motor that came on DP#100 and installed it on the band saw.


The drill press, DP#101, is a pre-1951, 13-1/2" Craftsman model 103.23640. A previous owner converted it to a floor standing unit with a piece of solid steel round stock attached to the bottom of the original column.

Three inches of the solid steel piece was turned down to fit very tightly inside the bottom of the original column. It was actually done quite well except that the solid steel piece was likely 2.2500". The original column is a few thousandths less. It looks like the PO unsuccessfully used a sanding disk in an attempt to reduce the diameter. It was very difficult to remove the column from the base and the table does not slide well below the original column.

I want to return this to a bench top unit, but could not separate the two pieces. Instead, I decided to cut most of the solid piece off with my recip saw. I left a couple extra inches that will be concealed in the base. I made a blade guide from two pieces of plywood. This worked very well and I came within 1/32" from square.
 
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Well gentleman, I know in a previous post I mentioned going to work and not stopping at a local estate sale. I could not take it anymore and stopped by the estate sale on day 2 (Thursday). I went there expect to the drill press to be long gone. To my surprise it was still there so I asked what they wanted for it. $300.00 is what they said, and I told them no way. They asked if that was too much and what I would be willing to pay for it. I looked around and noticed a classic craftsman table saw sitting under an 80’s radial arm saw.



I really did not need the table saw but the table saw I already have is a crappy Delta that has a plastic housing. I almost never use it unless I need to rip some plywood but this was an opportunity to get a mostly complete classic table saw.



So I told them I would be willing to pay $50.00 for the drill press and $75.00 for the table saw but if they want to sell me both, I would pay $100.00 for the set. I believe I had the advantage of these items being in a basement that had no clear way to get these heavy pieces of equipment out, through and extremely overgrown back yard, up an insane hill to a very steep driveway.



They both came home with me. The drill press is a 103.24531 power bronze and is in really good condition with some surface rust but otherwise complete. The motor is not a Craftsman but a period correct Magna Motors 1/2HP.



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The table saw is a 113.27520 10” tilting arbor table saw with a very heavy 1HP 113.19063 motor. The table extensions, miter, and geared fence were all present and at first glance the only thing missing is the blade guard that I would have never used anyway. The table saw was mounted to a heavy steel rolling table that will most likely be resold or tossed out, but it did have a Power PNL.



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Not a bad haul for $100.00
 
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Well gentleman, I know in a previous post I mentioned going to work and not stopping at a local estate sale. I could not take it anymore and stopped by the estate sale on day 2 (Thursday). I went there expect to the drill press to be long gone. To my surprise it was still there so I asked what they wanted for it. $300.00 is what they said, and I told them no way. They asked if that was too much and what I would be willing to pay for it. I looked around and noticed a classic craftsman table saw sitting under an 80’s radial arm saw.



I really did not need the table saw but the table saw I already have is a crappy Delta that has a plastic housing. I almost never use it unless I need to rip some plywood but this was an opportunity to get a mostly complete classic table saw.



So I told them I would be willing to pay $50.00 for the drill press and $75.00 for the table saw but if they want to sell me both, I would pay $100.00 for the set. I believe I had the advantage of these items being in a basement that had no clear way to get these heavy pieces of equipment out, through and extremely overgrown back yard, up an insane hill to a very steep driveway.



They both came home with me. The drill press is a 103.24531 power bronze and is in really good condition with some surface rust but otherwise complete. The motor is not a Craftsman but a period correct Magna Motors 1/2HP.



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The table saw is a 113.27520 10” tilting arbor table saw with a very heavy 1HP 113.19063 motor. The table extensions, miter, and geared fence were all present and at first glance the only thing missing is the blade guard that I would have never used anyway. The table saw was mounted to a heavy steel rolling table that will most likely be resold or tossed out, but it did have a Power PNL.



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Not a bad haul for $100.00
Nice work on bundling ! That is totally something I would do.
 

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A couple of nice package deals Frank and 11B!

We laugh at those redneck engineering pieces but I always look at it as some guy making a machine or tool do what he needed it to do. Interesting to look at!

I'm rehabbing a little 80 that I picked up for 15 bucks 30 minutes from my shop. It's the no-frills, bronze bushing model that's complete except for the bits and pieces to secure the feed handle within the pinion. The PO had threaded the hole in the pinion and ran a length of all thread through it. The OM shows the feed handle being secured with a spring, a steel washer and a leather disc. There's also a snap ring on the feed handle. I'm not grasping what the spring, steel washer and leather disc do unless the spring just compresses against the feed handle and the leather disc is cut oversize and held in with friction. There's no lip inside the pinion to keep the leather disc from just popping out. Doesn't seem to be a viable set up to me. Does anyone have pictures of an intact 80 showing this assembly? Thanks. Screen Shot 2021-06-01 at 11.05.20 AM.png
 
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A couple of nice package deals Frank and 11B!

We laugh at those redneck engineering pieces but I always look at it as some guy making a machine or tool do what he needed it to do. Interesting to look at!

I'm rehabbing a little 80 that I picked up for 15 bucks 30 minutes from my shop. It's the no-frills, bronze bushing model that's complete except for the bits and pieces to secure the feed handle within the pinion. The PO had threaded the hole in the pinion and ran a length of all thread through it. The OM shows the feed handle being secured with a spring, a steel washer and a leather disc. There's also a snap ring on the feed handle. I'm not grasping what the spring, steel washer and leather disc do unless the spring just compresses against the feed handle and the leather disc is cut oversize and held in with friction. There's no lip inside the pinion to keep the leather disc from just popping out. Doesn't seem to be a viable set up to me. Does anyone have pictures of an intact 80 showing this assembly? Thanks.
The spring, disk and leather pad are installed in the inboard side of the feed handle rod.

Also, check these posts:
 
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Thank you Frank. I figured I was missing something blatantly obvious and sure enough, I was. Those 3 pieces will be easy enough to get off the shelf/fabricate.
 

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Frank, coincidentally I got a three wheel K-S Craftsman bandsaw the same weekend you did. I paid $20 for the bandsaw and Craftsman tool table combination. I bought it strictly to use the table for the disc and belt sander I had also bought. Although I plan to sell the bandsaw as I have a 14" Delta, it's a solid, good machine.
 

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Frank, coincidentally I got a three wheel K-S Craftsman bandsaw the same weekend you did. I paid $20 for the bandsaw and Craftsman tool table combination. I bought it strictly to use the table for the disc and belt sander I had also bought. Although I plan to sell the bandsaw as I have a 14" Delta, it's a solid, good machine.
Nice deal!
 

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Frank, coincidentally I got a three wheel K-S Craftsman bandsaw the same weekend you did. I paid $20 for the bandsaw and Craftsman tool table combination. I bought it strictly to use the table for the disc and belt sander I had also bought. Although I plan to sell the bandsaw as I have a 14" Delta, it's a solid, good machine.
I had one of those sanders but regrettably had to sell when I moved. Those are amazing and work very well....I would say you most certainly **** at that price!
 

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I had one of those sanders but regrettably had to sell when I moved. Those are amazing and work very well....I would say you most certainly **** at that price!
Smoke, the bandsaw/table was $20, the actual sander (attached to a really old cast iron table that weighed a ton) I bought for $70. I think $70 is an outstanding price for a sander of that quality and it cleaned up nice. I had intended to restore it when I got it, but it cleaned up so well with cleaner wax and fine steel wool I'm leaving the original paint as is. I didn't take a "before pic" but I got rid of 70 years of sawdust. Such a great, heavy duty sander, comically so much cast iron.
 

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Smoke, the bandsaw/table was $20, the actual sander (attached to a really old cast iron table that weighed a ton) I bought for $70. I think $70 is an outstanding price for a sander of that quality and it cleaned up nice. I had intended to restore it when I got it, but it cleaned up so well with cleaner wax and fine steel wool I'm leaving the original paint as is. I didn't take a "before pic" but I got rid of 70 years of sawdust. Such a great, heavy duty sander, comically so much cast iron.
Still at $70, you got a heck of a deal...I don't think you should repaint it...it is way to nice!
 

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This is the little Craftsman 80 that popped up 30 minutes away from me for 15 bucks. I keep telling myself I'm NOT going to start accumulating Heritage DPs (I have 14 or 15 prewars) BUT....who could resist? A little TLC and she's now mounted to my primary bench. My workshop is in an old mule barn so there's 3 sections. This will save me moving to another section when I only need a light-duty machine for the task at hand. It came with a newer Chi-Com motor which was replaced by a 1/3hp 1725 dated 1947. I haven't measured run out but I don't detect any that will be an issue for what it will be used for. I need to experiment a bit with the drive pulley to find the speed I want. I don't want to devote a 4 step pulley to this machine. Not bad for a 70-ish year old bronze bushing machine. I will say, the method of securing the feed handle is the goofiest thing I've encountered with machines to date. IMG_0861.JPG
 

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Frank, all good? Last post was June 1. For many, this thread has been life changing and is the defacto Craftsman 100/150 bible.
 
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