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Nice work and some very interesting posts.

Gee, 49 quid would have been pretty pricey in the late '50's. For those locals born after 1966 and our international readers this is 98 bucks/ Dr. Google tells me this equates to about $1800 in today's dollars. I'd want someone to push it around for me included in that price.
 
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Nice work and some very interesting posts.

Gee, 49 quid would have been pretty pricey in the late '50's. For those locals born after 1966 and our international readers this is 98 bucks/ Dr. Google tells me this equates to about $1800 in today's dollars. I'd want someone to push it around for me included in that price.

That $1800 would almost get you that, a Victa Commercial 21 with self-propel -


 

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I know there is probably an official torque sequence, but I just follow a cross pattern, the first round to 10 Nm, then followed by the suggested 16 Nm..............actually, I did them at 17 Nm.

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Cool torque wrench. I'm not even going to look at the price but I like the clean read out.

Funny, I always have the desire to go just a bit beyond whatever the torque spec is 🤣

A few years ago, I bought a small selection of AMMO NYC products to try, this being before AMMO Australia was set up. With Hydrate being one of his signature products, I ordered two bottles of it to try.

Never bought any of his AMMO stuff but I remember watching a ton of Larry's videos back in the day! I never got super into detailing like you but I always found them enjoyable and meditative... kind of a pre-ASMR fad, OCD-satisfying type experience watching him calmly explain as he took a filthy car and made it shine.

The Mustang wheels look 🔥
 
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Cool torque wrench. I'm not even going to look at the price but I like the clean read out.

Funny, I always have the desire to go just a bit beyond whatever the torque spec is 🤣

Never bought any of his AMMO stuff but I remember watching a ton of Larry's videos back in the day! I never got super into detailing like you but I always found them enjoyable and meditative... kind of a pre-ASMR fad, OCD-satisfying type experience watching him calmly explain as he took a filthy car and made it shine.

The Mustang wheels look 🔥

I'm fairly sure those torque wrenches are made for Wera, they are almost identical to the ones Sonic offer. That doesn't bother me as I really like how they look and function, offering a very smooth but positive click-click. Price wise, I'd say they sit in the mid range, at least for me in Australia.

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https://www.amazon.com/Click-Torque-Torque-wrench-Drive-5-25/dp/B07B7VSM88/?tag=atomicindus08-20 (USA)

https://www.amazon.com.au/Wera-Torq...ords=wera+torque+wrench&qid=1737176659&sr=8-4 (AUS)

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Wera C4 -

https://www.amazon.com/Wera-075623-Torque-Reversible-Ratchet/dp/B07B82KQLP/?tag=atomicindus08-20 (USA)

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I had a basic Kincrome one before these two, but with the Mustang asking for 204 Nm / 150 ft-lbs for the lugs, it was right at the top of its capacity.

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If you liked Larry's content, take a look at Chromatic and Car Craft channels, very informative and well produced without ego or agenda -

 
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I've been watching this guy's content for a while now, he's a little rough around the edges, but the mowers are the star of the show. This particular video features a similar Victa 18 Model 5, his has the standard lanyard rope start. He got lucky with not needing a full carburetor rebuild like mine. Just listen to it scream from the 11-min 15-sec mark, even with very thick grass, it zooms through it with relative ease. Those 125cc 2-strokes produced 3.6 hp, an equivalent Briggs from that era would have made about 2.5 - 3.0 hp from 148cc. Most gas-powered mowers these days produce about 3.5 - 4.0 hp, so we haven't really progressed all that much.


Different channel, the same screaming 2-stroke!


This is what I'm aiming for, preserved and running.......................

 
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Well, I decided to step it up and use something more targeted for the fuel tank.


I emptied the white vinegar and stones from the tank, rinsed with a healthy dose of carb spray, then dumped the entire bottle of CRC Evapo-rust into the tank.

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It will be interesting to see how this works out, apparently the fluid can be reused afterwards.
 
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Well, I decided to step it up and use something more targeted for the fuel tank.


I emptied the white vinegar and stones from the tank, rinsed with a healthy dose of carb spray, then dumped the entire bottle of CRC Evapo-rust into the tank.

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It will be interesting to see how this works out, apparently the fluid can be reused afterwards.

Wow, this stuff is GOOD! Very surprised and happy at how well the inside of the tank cleaned up.
 
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Yesterday I said goodby to a friend and colleague of 20-years. After a 15-year battle with cancer, she fought it to the very end, I would expect nothing less. She was one of those people who would give to her own detriment, a totally selfless soul that was loved by many. She worked for the company for nearly 35-years, only 'retiring' in late November last year at age 82, and only because her body wouldn't let her anymore.

I already miss our regular text messages and working the Saturday shift together. And while I'm sad to no longer have her in my life, I'm also content knowing she lived life to the very end, not a second wasted. She battled for so long, both for own and her late husbands health, she is now at peace. Perhaps she's dancing on the tables of heaven, she once famously jumped up and started dancing on the table at a company Christmas party a few years before I joined. As she would often ask if I was freeeeee, she is now freeeee.

Considering the above, and the projected temperatures below, I really couldn't be bothered working today......................

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So, I followed my heart and did what makes me happy.......................

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In the foam cannon today, ADS Shampoo+ used on the wheels and body, drying aid ADS Amplify, Invisible Glass for the windows and touchscreen, OG Tire Dressing for the rubber and Amplify on the wheels and exhaust tips.
 
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Some parts arrived for the Victa 18 today.

After getting my mowing run done, I was going to save rebuilding the carb for tomorrow, well, I couldn't resist.................

Over the last week, I couldn't begin to tally the number of hours I have been online reading and researching these early Victa's. For the most part, it's been to track down parts, but also to figure out how these things work. I've quickly determined that Victa were making so many of these things that often parts would be superseded without notice. Also consider how old these things are, the possibility of parts being replaced as needed without staying with original style parts is a high possibility. This especially applies to the air inlet tubing, filter and choke arrangement, more on that later. Having said all that, mine appears to be pretty faithful to how it left the factory.

I've also been seeking out workshop manuals, which I've found very useful in regard to the carburetor, I've never rebuilt one like this before.

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To my surprise and delight, replacement gaskets are available for these Victa 3F carburetors. Several kits are available depending on what version of the carb you have, again there were changes along the way. Once you know which carb kit you need, you then chose which material you want to go with.

The standard 0.8mm orange/red fibre gaskets are the OEM spec, which are desirable for those restoring a machine to factory original.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3535543...xhx58VYfgVF0lFhn11n5MgRFnP|tkp:Bk9SR8ywl82RZQ

The kit I chose has the 1.0mm blue fibre gaskets, which were designed to be softer and provide superior sealing on machines with wear or those that are still in regular use.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3527548...FNOu0ixabDjYUqG8iMdoE+xwE=|tkp:Bk9SR6T7zM2RZQ



With the carb fully disassembled and cleaned, putting it back together was far less daunting than I was expecting. Helping the situation, the seller of the kit includes an instruction sheet. In my case, I didn't need to make an adjustment to the float level, which must be set at 3/16" (4.78mm) between the top of the float and the carb body. If an adjustment was needed, you'd gently bend the float lever to achieve the desired gap.

Being such fiddly work, I didn't take many images. This one displays the carb put back together, save for the throttle spring and top cap, which will be done once the carb is back on the machine and the cable reinstalled.

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Next, the fuel tap. The carb kit includes two replacement o-rings for the inner slide, the originals were hard as a rock.

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New o-rings installed, the slide was then reinserted into the brass body, followed by the holding screw. Initially, the new o-rings make the movement very tight, but with a bit of working, they free up and begin to function properly.

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After rinsing out the tank with carb spray, I then reinstalled the tap, which are a tapered thread and go in very tight. Some fuel in the tank verified no leaks from the fitting or past the o-rings. Sucess!

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I then connected the new fuel line included in the kit, turned on the tap and filled the carburetor bowel with fuel. I even gave the tickler and tickle to verify it was working. Again, success! No leaks.

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Super pleased to get this step completed, let's just hope it works as it should.

Still to do -

- Refit the carb to the machine, re-install and adjust throttle spring, cable and cap.

- Figure out what I'm going to do with the broken choke/run lever function. The switch on mine has been broken, meaning selection of choke/run is not possible without removing the air filter cap. Those air filter assemblies are hard to find and most of them are broken like mine.

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Also, those round air filters are no longer available, of which I've tried to find an alternative, but dimensions need to be very similar to work properly in the housing.

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At the moment, I have an idea on how to modify the choke insert and rig up a makeshift switch. With the switch missing, the central choke insert simply pops out, so I'm thinking of cutting off the shaft, drilling out the centre of the cap, then use a long bolt to replace the shaft. I'm hesitant to butcher a relatively rare part, but its broken anyway, so what do I have to lose?

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- Also of concern is the rubber intake tube. Considering the above, I went ahead and bought a long tube and the basic filter body, which Victa dealers were retrofitting to machines once those round air filters became NLA in the 1970's. The trouble here is there isn't a choke integrated on this particular one.





So, I'll decide on what setup I use depending on how my repairs pan out on the original choke switch.

The reason why I'm putting so much emphases on this aspect of the project is the filter assembly is necessary to the correct running of the engine. In effect, the carb needs restriction up stream to help form the right air-fuel ratio.

- Sorting out the blade situation. I ordered a replacement blade carrier disk and a set of NOS blades. However, the blades don't come with the bolts, nuts and washers. I just spent 30 minutes trying to remove the old blades from the old carrier, not necessarily to re-use, but to have something to match up with when I go shopping. I ended up having to cut the face of the bolt off as they were so worn down that I couldn't get a socket on them to stop it from spinning.

This blade arrangement is needlessly over complicated, with bolt, sleeve, washers and cupped washers. So, I'll see what the local bolt place can do for me.

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So, things are progressing, I'm kinda hoping to get it to run tomorrow.
 
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Starting on the Victa 18 this morning, I fitted a replacement blade disk in anticipation of getting the engine running. I'm waiting for a set of bolts to arrive, so the blades will go on later.

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Next, I reinstalled the fuel tank, followed by refitting the carburetor, throttle and a temporary intake. From here, I trimmed the new fuel line to length and connected it up, then added some fuel to the tank. Time for the moment of truth.

Fuel tap on, throttle opened halfway, a pull of the starter and ziiiiiing, she was alive. This initial off camera run was super promising, taking a moment to clear its throat but was eventually started to run nice and strong. I then shut it off and set up the camera and things went downhill. The engine just wouldn't run clean.....................


After that video, it only got worse until it wouldn't restart. I pulled the plug and it seemed quite dry, so I'll have to dig into the carb again. The plug itself was quite worn but was delivering some spark, I have a replacement Champion N21 on the way so I'll see if that helps the matter.

I have to say, I'm a little disappointed, but that's what you get playing with old vintage stuff. I'm fairly sure its fuel related as it was running very well initially and the engine has excellent compression. I do also wonder if having the incorrect intake is playing a part too.
 

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I enjoy seeing these mowers, because I grew up with a Snapper push mower, and the deck designs as well as the blade designs differences I find interesting. Here we get deep decks, and one large blade. Yours have shallow decks, and that disc with the two smaller blades affixed to the disc. Do you know the purpose behind having the shallow deck and that particular blade setup? I imagine you would never have to worry about clogging the thing! I can remember mowing some really tall grass and completely plugging up the deck of the mower, but it was a big ask of a push mower really. Not my mower/image, but this is what I started with.

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Did you put a filter in line from the tank to the carb?

I know you cleaned the tank well but whenever I revive something with a jacked up fuel tank, a piece of trash seems to always get missed.

Rebuilt a neglected 1988 Honda TRX 250R. After cleaning everything up, she'd run like a top for 5-10 min then starve for fuel. After many more attempts at cleaning the tank (plastic) and rebuilding the fuel petcock, she was finally 100%.
 
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Did you put a filter in line from the tank to the carb?

I know you cleaned the tank well but whenever I revive something with a jacked up fuel tank, a piece of trash seems to always get missed.

Rebuilt a neglected 1988 Honda TRX 250R. After cleaning everything up, she'd run like a top for 5-10 min then starve for fuel. After many more attempts at cleaning the tank (plastic) and rebuilding the fuel petcock, she was finally 100%.
No, but I'm on to it. ;)
 
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Well, well, well.................................... 😁

Despite the bad news that the house air conditioning system is fu.ked and needs total replacement as we approach 42-degrees on Monday, I did have some luck today. Garage therapy and a lovely mild summer day, a blissful recipe!

Working on the Victa 18 yesterday was a mixture of pleasure and pain. Getting the carburetor refitted and fueled up, then getting the engine to fire off for the first time in decades was very satisfying. But then the frustration of it getting more and more erratic to the point where it wouldn't refire. Very deflating. Rather than pulling it all to bits right then and there, I decided to put it aside and let things cool, both me and the machine.

Initially, I assumed it was a fueling problem. The engine would rev up, then break down, rev up and choke............rinse and repeat. Thinking about it, the fact I could get it to rev right up indicated it was getting enough fuel to do so. Changing tact, I removed the spark plug and immediately noticed what the problem was................................

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"There's your problem......." a spark plug well out of spec. :oops:

With the plug lead still connected and the turned over, I was getting an erratic blue and orange spark. I then removed the wire and connected it to another plug, this delivered nice blue spark. So yeah, it just wasn't getting enough or consistent spark.

As luck would have it, the brand-new plug I ordered showed up this morning. This Champion N21 plug, and its alternatives, are not a commonly stocked these days, so I had to order it rather than popping down to the auto store.

Champion N21 Plug fits Early Victa 125 2 Stroke Motors Rotomo & 18 Special's

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Included in that order was a new spark plug boot, the original crumbled in my fingers when I needed to remove the plug wire to access the fuel tank.

Spark Plug Cover fits Victa 2 Stroke Lawn Mowers Brushcutters Chainsaws

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With the fuel turned on, throttle half way, the rope pulled once, then twice..................off she went, settling into a nice stable idle. Once it was warmed up, I cracked the throttle open and ziiiiiiiiiiinnnng, that classic 2-stoke scream! After several restarts spread over a few hours, it seems like I have the engine running well. So, a simple spark plug solved the problem. 😁


Reinvigorated, I therefore decided to keep fettling.....................

The original owner had used electrical tape to secure the throttle cable to the handle.............yeah, that's not DFB-Spec! So, I went and tracked down some vintage cable clips. Even though they came from an eBay store selling vintage bicycle parts, these ones are for a Scott Bonner and work just as well on the little Victa.

Scott Bonnar Clutch Cable Clips X 4 fit 7/8" & 1" Tubing | eBay

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In preparation, I actually stripped the remains of the fabric sheath surrounding the cable for a cleaner look. These clips really tidy up the look of the mower, as well as solving the issue I was having with the throttle lever popping the retainer out of place, thus preventing the cable from functioning properly. A double win here! 😁

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I also had a play around with the choke selector on the original pod filter housing. For this, I cut the leg off the choke, drilled out the circular piece then inserted an 80mm M4 bolt, locking it in place with a nut and washers. I then double-nutted the bolt about halfway down to set the correct height and installed the refurbished choke into the housing. Next, I installed another nut to help lock a small doorknob in place for the selector. I then orientated the choke into the lower housing and marked the knob for direction. I'm just waiting for the correct size tube and I'll give it a whirl. The reality is, the engine is starting pretty easy without a choke.

Pinnacle M4 x 80mm Black Ruspert® Round Head Bolts And Nuts - 6 Pack - Bunnings Australia
Taskmaster 30mm Matte Black Cabinet Knob - Bunnings Australia

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The tidied-up cables and temporary cable ties for the intake tube have really smartened up the look..................

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Still to come, some blade bolts so that I can actually cut some grass. And the above-mentioned correct intake tube so that I can make it look right. I also need to put an inline fuel filter on it. From there, I'll have to figure out the height adjusters. But.........................I'm super happy to have revived this piece of Australian history.
 
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After finishing up on the Victa, I was feeling super pumped and felt like indulging in a little detail therapy. In line today, the blue rocket.

In the cannon today, the thoroughly delightful Shine Supply Shift. Out of all the soaps in my collection, I regard this one to be the mildest. As we know, Reset can be a little aggressive, likewise Megs Hyper Wash and NV Snow. Shift on the other hand is a great for light maintenance washing, providing great lubrication, plenty sudsy foam and just enough cleaning ability. I also love the coconut lime fragrance. Shift was used on the wheels and paint, and a little Brake Buster for the tyres.

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Wash media today was the TRC Cyclone Mini......................

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Drying aid was, you guessed it, ADS Amplify, which I also used on the door jambs. Next, the engine bay was wiped down with ECH20, followed by the wheels with Amplify. Tyres coat a coat of Swissxax Pneu. For the interior, a very quick once over with ADS Pilot. For the exterior glass, I went with Opti-Coat Glass Clean & Protect, which is on another page when compared to Carpro ClarifyPhobic, not streaking or special treatment required.

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Back to spec and ready for its cover.
 
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I enjoy seeing these mowers, because I grew up with a Snapper push mower, and the deck designs as well as the blade designs differences I find interesting. Here we get deep decks, and one large blade. Yours have shallow decks, and that disc with the two smaller blades affixed to the disc. Do you know the purpose behind having the shallow deck and that particular blade setup? I imagine you would never have to worry about clogging the thing! I can remember mowing some really tall grass and completely plugging up the deck of the mower, but it was a big ask of a push mower really. Not my mower/image, but this is what I started with.
The more and more I play around with older stuff, the more I realize how crappy newer stuff has gotten.

In terms of deck design, those early Victa's were an anomaly. These 1950's Victa's used a very shallow stamped steel or cast aluminum deck with little to no protection from the users feet....................they are known here as the Victa Toe-Cutter for a reason. As the years went on, the decks evolved to what we have today, high arch steel or alloy decks that are primarily designed for catching/bagging.

This is a 1970's Victa, which shows the progress that was made. This one is super rare as it has a twin cylinder 2-stoke engine, notorious for being noisy and extremely thirsty. I'm on the hunt for one actually.


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I know I'm biased, but the Australian designed mower decks are far superior for bagging due to their full width rear discharge chute, which allows improved airflow for less clogging.

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Most American made mowers have a half width chute which really don't work well on Australian lawns.

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These aluminum deck Victa's are the best on the market today...............................

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When it comes to blades, only the very cheap lawn mowers here come with a single piece bar blade. Instead, most are fitted with an oval or circular blade carrier disk, which generally last the life of the mower. Small flail blades are then replaced as needed. The main benifit here is that blade replacement is significantly cheaper, but they also bend out of the way if you hand something, meaning you don't end up bending a crankshaft and ruining the engine. And finally, they provide far superior lift, meaning superior catching ability and a cleaner cut. Oh, and you don't have to periodically balance those small blades like you would with a bar blade.

Bar blades -

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Blade carrier and blades. Some machines will have two blades, some will have four.

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Back when I was at Waxit late last year for a polishing class with Sandro, the topic of UK detailing brands came up. As many will know, I have struggled with these brands for quite a while, so when this topic came up during the lunch session, I kinda had a lot to say. For anyone that knows me, I'm more of an observer in person, sit in the background type. So, for me to speak up about something, well that says quite a lot. I have to say, for the first time, it wasn't just me who had noticed a lack of favorable performance with these products, and I came away enlightened.............finally I had a answer to why I struggled.

So, in his latest video, Sandro delves deeper into the subject of how environmental conditions effect the performance of detailing chemicals.

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I've been very harsh on these brands, and in my situation, probably justified. But knowing the climatic influences but also detailing philosophy differences, perhaps I have been missing something. You never stop learning.
 

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Now all that's required is the one saying 'management causing the mistakes and blaming everyone else' 😅
 
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Despite the heat today, which as I type is sitting on 41-degrees on its way to 42, I still managed to get in some detailing.

With it being quite dry and windy over the week, the Ranger's white paint was looking quite dull from a layer of dust. A trip to the green waste facility didn't help things.

For the wheels, tyres and paint, I decided to use P&S Wide Open.

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Drying Aid was a product I keep forgetting to use, Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer. This is a product that doesn't shout about itself via a fancy bottle or label, an enticing colour or fruity scent, it just makes paint slick and glossy. Considering the heat out there today, I was surprised how easily it worked.

https://detailingshed.com.au/produc...1&_sid=6f4c902d4&_ss=r&variant=39264423936159

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The tray and door jambs were wiped down with DIY Waterless Wash, glass via KCx, interior got the InnerQD treatment.

At the previous wash 12 days ago, I used ADS Ghost for the first time. As a recap, this was the result...............

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The tyres on this occasion had a layer of dust on the very outer rim of the sidewall from the trip to the tip, most of which was removed by a simple rinse. It was also interesting to see the hydrophobics created by Ghost. Instead of hitting the rubber with a tyre cleaner, I decided to just give them a scrub with the Wide Open shampoo mentioned earlier. Dried, this is what they looked like.....................

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There was some degradation around the outer rim, which is understandable given it makes contact with the road, but hopefully you can see the rest of the sidewall has hung on very well. While I certainly didn't need to, I gave the tyres a very light brush over with ADS Tire+ to top them off.

Contrary to what some people seem to think, this post was NOT sponsored or paid for by a detailing company.
 
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Some NOS parts arrived this morning. Check out the original price on those bolts! I certainly paid more than 0.58c for them! These shoulder bolts then allowed me to fit the NOS blades.

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Now, in my haste to order parts for this machine, I ended up buying the wrong blade disk, which meant the blade bolts wouldn't clear the muffler pan. So, after cutting off the old blade bolts, I inspected the original rusty blade disk for damage, then fitted the blades up to it instead. I'll just on-sell the one I bought.

So, the Victa cut its first grass in decades......................


I have to admit though, I am kinda scared to use this thing at full steam, it revs super high and those blades are quite thin.

Now, after this I actually removed the blade carrier again. Despite the nylock nuts being on super tight, the blades had too much play, which you can hear on shut down. What I'm trying to do here is make 70-year-old technology work the best I can with what I have available. Finding NOS washers and washer cups is impossible, which is needed to limit the amount of swing the blades can achieve. I do realize they are supposed to do this, but not to the extent I was happy with. In the end, I got them firmed up how I like using the old cups and new washers.

I also need to get the deck height sorted for my lawns. I've figured out how to adjust the deck, but it's a tooled procedure that requires the engine off to do safely. I will also fit an inline fuel filter as the in-tank item isn't cutting it. I will also fit the original filter pod with a short intake hose I tracked down.

I had two passes by today say how cool this thing is, and like a proud "grandson" (it's just too old for me to be its fatherly figure), I couldn't help but proudly agree. It's not perfect, it's go a few battle scars, its noisy and kinda dangerous.......................but oh-so full of character.

So, while there is some tinkering still left to do, but I'd consider this old Victa recommissioned!
 
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Today's fettling involved fitting the original air cleaner/choke housing.

Back tracking a little, when I got the mower, the original intake tube had been repaired with what looked like masking tape. Clearly, a crack had developed at the elbow at some point and the original owner patched it back together.

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Upon removal to get access to the carb, the repaired end fell apart in my hands. The mower actually came with a replacement intake, as pictured above, but I'm fairly sure it came off a VC Mustang and just wasn't suitable to work properly.

Researching, it seems someone one has been making reproductions of both long and short tubes. Thing is, the short one just isn't the right shape either, it has an extra bend in it.

vintage victa 18 Snorkel Tube "short version" aftermarket free shipping | eBay



The correct item has a single bend exiting the carb.

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It would seem Victa only used this setup for a short period, then at some point reverted back to the high mount arrangement. At some point in the 1970's, the round air filter element became NLA and Victa dealers were instructed to retrofit a long tube and stubby paper filter when machines came in for service.

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Hence why I've found tracking down parts to fix the choke switch and finding an air filter. In the interim, I fitted a long tube with a very basic mesh filter housing/restrictor. Last week I tracked down an original short tube, then fashioned up a makeshift choke lever using a long M4 bolt, nuts, washers and a small doorknob. Primitive, but it seems to work. Because Victa discouraged washing these filters, and with them being NLA, I just blew out the original. I do have a lead on a suitable replacement.

So, off with the temporary solution and the original re-installed. The switch looks goofy, but it does the job. If I ever find a replacement, I'll swap it out for the factory correct look.

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I also figured out the deck height adjustment. This is done by slackening the nut, then winding the dial to take the deck up or down. In my case, I needed to raise it up quite a bit, settling on about 55mm from floor level to the bottom of the deck, or 35mm between the floor and blade.

Take note of the instructions for women and children. Hmmm, well what does that say about me and how I chose to adjust the cutting height? :frown:

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I then took the old girl out back to cut the lawn. Thankfully, I had set the deck perfectly, then got on with cutting. On light growth, the engine just putts along without breaking a sweat. On some thicker growth, you just lever the throttle open, and the engine just knuckles down and powers through. On a modern engine, the governor senses a loss of engine speed and opens up the throttle to prevent stalling, all done in a smooth manner. On these early Victa's, there is NO governor, so it's entirely up to the user to account for heavier growth. You just have to keep in mind to throttle back once you clear the taller grass. Victa actually alludes to this in the instruction manual..........................

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I'm very surprised at how well this mower cut. The blade and deck design mean you are never going to get a manicured look on taller grass with this machine, it just cuts and runs. But for tipping regularly maintained grass, it might just surprise you how well it finishes out. But most of all, I loved having the ability to fully control the engine speed compared to how modern engines bog down.

Still on the to-do list, fit an inline fuel filter, and track down an original spanner. These were supplied with Model 5 Special's and would clip onto the handlebars. Mine has the clips attached to the bars, but I'd dare say the spanner got thrown out when the original owner passed away.

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I’ve been reading and researching early Victa’s quite a lot over the last few weeks. The research and parts hunting element is probably what I enjoy most about this hobby. I haven’t managed to put an exact date or year that my Model 5 Special was made, but it’s somewhere between 1957 and 1960.

In my travels, I came across images of the original Victa prototype. In 1951, Mervyn Victor Richardson built a prototype lawn mower in his Sydney home garage. This rudimentary machine had a hand-built frame, a Villers 2-stroke engine and famously used an old peach tin for the petrol tank. If you thought a Victa 18 had sketchy looking blades, they have nothing on this arrangement………………….









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That prototype is part of the Powerhouse Collection in Castle Hill, along with the first production Victa. The original Victa 18 “Billy Cart” went on sale in 1953 using a steel base and a Villiers engine. The first of Victa’s own 125cc 2-stroke engine went on sale in 1955 as the Model 1 Rotomo. By 1957, Victa introduced an alloy chassis for the Model 4 and 5.

https://collection.powerhouse.com.au/object/158738
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I liken these early Victa’s as the Holden or Model T of lawn mowers. The Victa became the byword for lawn mower as Australians sidelined their manual reel mowers for the convenience of a “motor-mower”. Unlike those old reel mowers, the Victa could cut longer grass and vegetation. The 2-stroke engine was also suitable for cutting on sloping lawns that would leave a 4-stroke starved of oil. By 1965, the Victa made Mervyn Richardson a millionaire.

"With the Hill's hoist clothes line, the Victa lawnmower is considered an Australian icon as almost every household would have owned both at one time. The development of the Victa rotary mower, an Australian innovation, coincided with the country's post-War housing boom as demand for homes on quarter-acre blocks in the suburbs escalated."

Having a vintage lawn mower in my collection was never really on my radar. Spending the last few weeks recommissioning this piece of Australian history has been super satisfying. It simultaneously shows far we've come and how far we haven't come. And to think we once made things like this from the ground up. These days, Victa is owned by the greedy Americans, Briggs and Stratton. And while the mowers are assembled in Australia, most if not all of the parts come from China. Even the cast iron 2-stroke blocks and heads were made in China from the late 1990's, then Briggs bought them out in the late 2000's. Victa is now just another faceless American corporation focused purely on making as much profit as possible, no matter the price.
 

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Briggs & Stratton is owned by KPS Capital Partners, and that's their jam, swooping in and buying up companies that are struggling.

Many of its investments "involve creating new companies" that buy underperforming assets, such as "companies operating in bankruptcy or in default of obligations to creditors", or otherwise with a history of "recurring operating losses".[14] KPS is a global firm headquartered in New York City with offices in Frankfurt and Amsterdam that invests in both North American and European-headquartered companies.
 

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Briggs & Stratton is owned by KPS Capital Partners, and that's their jam, swooping in and buying up companies that are struggling.

Many of its investments "involve creating new companies" that buy underperforming assets, such as "companies operating in bankruptcy or in default of obligations to creditors", or otherwise with a history of "recurring operating losses".[14] KPS is a global firm headquartered in New York City with offices in Frankfurt and Amsterdam that invests in both North American and European-headquartered companies.
There was period through the 2000's where Briggs and Stratton went around buying up various companies that were customers for their engines. In effect, this was shoring up demand for Briggs engines. In 2008, the Australian brand Victa was one of those companies.

In June 2008 Victa Lawncare was sold to Briggs & Stratton Australia Pty. Ltd., part of the U.S. based Briggs & Stratton Corporation, the world’s largest small engine manufacturer and major supplier of engines to Victa.

When Briggs & Stratton filed for Chapter 11 in July 2020, KPS swooped in and took control. So, you are correct on that front, but Briggs were in control when they swooped on Victa.

I apologize for implying Americans are greedy. Please know that came from seeing a brand I have so much history with being controlled without the interests of its customers in mind. The Victa brand was (perhaps still is) THE premier lawn mower brand in Australia. It makes me sad seeing a brand that should be protecting its image by pursing cheap and nasty price-point models designed with absolutely no regard for quality and longevity.

Products like these with tiny 16-inch steel bases made from flimsy steel, crappy plastic everything and underpowered low quality engines. These mowers are in no way a Victa, but just a rebadged generic mower made in China -

https://www.victa.com/au/en_au/product-catalog/domestic/lawn-mowers/corvette-v127.html

Of the "real" Australian designed and assembled models, over the last couple of years they have been offering a lower price point by using generic Chinese engines marketed as the Victa V-Series. These engines are hot garbage, I've seen them with worn bearings and rod knock from brand new. What I can't understand is why Briggs & Stratton are using engines other than their own, it defeats the purpose.


They have also been risking their reputation using larger capacity versions of those crappy engines on the commercial machines. If there is one area you don't cut corners, its with commercial machines as you risk customers not coming back.


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I do note that they have started to discontinue those engines within the range...................which says it all. I do realise that some people **** on Briggs for reliability, but I have to say, I've never had one go bang in all the years I've messed with them. These V-Series engines are just junk on wheels.

I also take issue with the Victa website, which is clearly a mirroring of the Briggs & Stratton website. The product images are often incorrect for the mower, information is clearly cut and pasted and not always correct or fully complete. I've also found occasions when models are available to order from a dealer, but not represented on the website. How do they expect someone to buy the product if the customer doesn't even know it exists? No wonder Briggs went bankrupt.

The same thing has been playing out with Rover, but even more so. In 2010, Rover was bought by MTD. Since then, MTD has gutted the range, discontinued their brilliant Pro-Cut commercial machine, replaced Briggs engines with Chinese Honda knockoff's, and basically abandoned parts supply. Yet another Australian company that once made high quality machines that has been run into the ground. There is a reason why I was so happy when I tracked down a 10-year old Rover to replace another 10-year-old Rover....................

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So, I apologize for my remark in the previous post. It came out of frustration seeing two brands I love being run into the ground.
 
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Wash day for the Mustang!

Tyres were scrubbed with Undressed, wheels and body cleaned with GSF. Following the blow off, I used Amplify on the paint, wheels, exhaust tips and door jambs. OG TD for the rubber, and a damp towel was used for the interior wipe down.

As the car continues off-gassing, I also wanted to give the interior glass another hit to remove that hazy film. This meant an undignified entry to the back seat armed with Invisible Glass the Clean & Reach Tool.

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Just about to hit 800 km.................yeah, I know. :rolleyes:
 
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In May 2018, I had a rush of blood and decided I needed to buy one of the last 2-Stoke Victa’s. Actually, I had already done that exactly three years prior in buying a 2-Stroke Mustang. By 2018, the 2-Stroke was in its final days and I wanted that engine on the classic Utility format.

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These steel chassis Ute’s have been in production since the late 1970’s and marketed under various names within the Professional line and generally available from Victa dealers only. In the late 90’s, they were called the Pro Utility 460 before becoming part of the Master Series and renamed MasterCut 460. The 460 reference is the 460mm or 18-inch cutting width.

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Powering these Utilities, Victa used the full-crank 2-Stroke before switching to the PowerTorque 2-Stroke in the early 1980’s. For the PowerTorque, Victa did make some specific changes for the Pro level engines, namely a different (straight) intake manifold and a redesigned cowling without the fuel tank. Some models also got higher compression and larger main jets. For the Utility, Victa typically used the lower powered variants, be that the VSP160, V40 or VE40.

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At some point in the 90’s, Victa added the smaller Briggs & Stratton 4-Stokes such as the 158cc Quattro, as well as the Honda GCV160. In recent times, with the 2-Stroke now long gone, Victa is using the 140cc and 163cc Briggs OHV engines. But the one everyone wants is one of the 2-Stoke. In a commercial application, none of the 4-Stoke engines Victa offered had/have a cast iron cylinder. Whereas the PowerTorque has a full cast iron block for longevity, as well as allowing for it to be re-bored and an oversized piston fitted.

https://www.victa.com/au/en_au/product-catalog/professional/lawn-mowers/utility-460-500e.html
https://www.victa.com/au/en_au/product-catalog/professional/lawn-mowers/utility-460-725exi.html

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What I love about the Victa Utility is how ****** light and maneuverable they are. The large pro-grade double ball-bearing wheels combine with the low weight to make this mower very easy to use. For the 2-Stroke variant weighs in at 27kg, the Briggs only 26.5kg and the Honda the heaviest at 29kg. On 2-Strokes, there was a large 3-litre capacity fuel tank remote mounted on the handles, in fact the 4-Stokes look naked without it. I actually snapped the plastic fuel tap on the tank very early on, dumping the better part of 3-litres of 25:1 fuel into the tray of my Ranger. I was filthy angry over that, not only did I break the tap then footed the bill for its repair and lost fuel, but I also made a giant mess that took ages to remove from the tray. :doh

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The Utility blades are smaller than typical, in fact they look worn out from brand new. These are fitted to the classic Victa oval 2-blade disk and provide no lift, so they are purely for slashing and dashing.

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So, I mention all this because I now own one of the first Victa Utility mowers, and also one of the very last fitted with the 2-Stroke engine. I’ve told this story before, but my childhood neighbor had a 1970's Victa Utility, a mower I was always fascinated with. He would be out there on a Saturday cutting the grass with the engine screaming its head off. Ever since, I’ve been into Victa’s, 2-Stokes Victa’s to be specific. That’s why I bought one back in 2018, and now I have its grandfather for good measure.

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Both offer an 18-inch cut, but there is a significant size difference going on here. The newer model is larger because it actually encloses the blades for safety, has larger wheels, wider and taller handles, and a plastic discharge chute. The MasterCut also has a physically and internally larger engine.

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The Victa 18 is fitted with the OG Victa full-crank engine displacing 125cc. The MasterCut with the 160cc PowerTorque has a large single piece cast-iron block and cylinder, topped with an alloy head. Both direct exhaust gas into the muffler and down through the deck where its dispersed by the blades. Looking at the specs, all 2-Stroke Victa’s used the same stroke measurement, be that the full or half crank. In fact, the 160cc full-crank and 160cc half-crank share bore and stroke measurements, although I’m not entirely sure how much interchangeability there is between them.

(Those numbers look a bit weird because they are converted from inches)

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Check out the HP numbers between them. You would expect with an extra 35cc and being 60-years newer there would be a major advancement in performance. No doubt Victa’s attempts at containing emissions had the effect of choking the potential of the later engines. They also dropped the engine speed down from 3600+ rpm to about 3200 rpm for final revision called VE40 and VEX60. At this point, Victa started recommending a 50:1 fuel blend in an attempt to lower emissions, which coincided with a new 50:1 FormulaV oil. Despite all that, the fuel caps and stickers all said to use 25:1.............go figure. Although it means carrying a second 2-stoke fuel can, I use the 25:1 ratio in all of my 2-Stroke Victa's, although I have tried the Stihl 50:1 full-synthetic and noticed it offered some additional power.

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And so, that is what a 60-year age gap looks like!
 

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Absolutely zero reason to apologize, not to me anyways! I can wholeheartedly agree it ***** to see things succumb to this new disposable item mindset that has taken over. That's probably as far as we can go without delving into forbidden subjects.

To get back on topic, I made a quick pass through the local detailing supply shop and they have that P&S Wide Open in stock, so I will be giving that a try once we get back to some warmer weather. Might just grab a variety of things since I've used up a lot of my supplies, not to mention the kid borrowing stuff and not telling me they used the last of it! Pretty sure my glass towels were used to put 303 on their interior, so I see more towels in my future as well.
 
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Absolutely zero reason to apologize, not to me anyways! I can wholeheartedly agree it ***** to see things succumb to this new disposable item mindset that has taken over. That's probably as far as we can go without delving into forbidden subjects.

To get back on topic, I made a quick pass through the local detailing supply shop and they have that P&S Wide Open in stock, so I will be giving that a try once we get back to some warmer weather. Might just grab a variety of things since I've used up a lot of my supplies, not to mention the kid borrowing stuff and not telling me they used the last of it! Pretty sure my glass towels were used to put 303 on their interior, so I see more towels in my future as well.

P&S make some brilliant products, in fact a lot of my bulk products are from the brand, think Bead Maker, Paint Gloss, Brake Buster, Undressed, Rags To Riches, Xpress, and True Vue. I also love Absolute, Clarity Creme and Swift. However, their soaps are not class leaders.

Listed best to worst -

Wide Open - This was created for the Off-road line is a solid soap, arguably their best soap. It foams well and with the slightly alkaline formula, it cleans great. But it doesn't have much in the way of scent and isn't as slick as you would hope for.

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Frost Bite - This is their latest soap, which has a pH of 11.0 and was designed as a pre-wash snow foam. It's their best foaming soap and seems to offer nice cleaning ability, although nowhere near what Bilt Hamber Touchless would offer. The Eucalyptus-mint fragrance is a bit strange.

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Inspiration Radiance - This is supposed to be an update on the older wash-and-wax Inspiration, with Si02 replacing wax to create Inspiration Radiance. I was actually sent the original when I ordered the new one, so I used them back to back and found them virtually the same, including the dated 1980's fragrance. Thing is, I liked this more than I expected for the slickness and gloss it leaves behind. Just don't expect it to foam very well.

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Pearl - Of the 50+ soaps I've tried, this would easily be one of the worst. It doesn't foam, has so-so lubrication, average cleaning ability and the lemon scent too subdued. What annoyed me most is how they sell this as a high foaming soap, and yet no matter how much or how little I used, it never produced what I would call high quality foam. The counter argument suggests that the low price balances the equation......................but you have to use 2 - 3 times as much per application than you would with something like Carpro Reset, NV Snow or Shine Supply Shift. And even if you accept that, its still a **** product.

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At the moment, my favorite soaps are Capro Reset, Shine Supply Shift, NV Snow, Koch Chemie GSF and Armour Detail Supply Shampoo+. I also highly rate the Adam's soaps, the red Mega Foam in particular.

Fir glass towels, after trying a few, I keep coming back to the Dry Me A River in 16x24 size -

 
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Well, summer is making a belated appearance. In the past few summers, we haven't had long stretches of above 38-degrees, just the odd hot day followed by a cool change. However, the next 7-days doesn't look pretty, with the lowest temperature predicted being 35 on Wednesday and Saturday. Otherwise, it's going to be a string of 38 and 40-degree days. Have I mentioned I hate summer, there is just no escaping the heat. And no, the air-conditioning still hasn't been fixed. :oops:

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I'm trying to get what I need done early in the day before retreating back inside. I have a bunch of lawns to do this week as well, which is hard on the body and the machinery. So, I spent some time this morning doing some maintenance on my most used tools.

First up, an oil change on the Rover. This machine has been working hard since I got it back in October, and with the hot weather, I decided it wouldn't hurt to have some fresh oil in there. Before that, I decided to give it a clean, using Bilt Hamber Surfex as a pre-soak.

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No agitation was needed, so I just pressure rinsed it, then applied Carpro Hydr02. With the mower still wet, I soaked it down with Motorplast then dried with the Ego. I'm not the biggest fan of Motorplast as I find it too glossy on cars, so this is a good alternative use for it.

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Considering the heat, I probably didn't need to warm the engine oil up before draining it, but I did anyway. While the oil was draining, I removed the blade carrier and put an edge back on the blades. I don't normally bother sharpening blades, mainly because I wear them so quick that it's just easier to replace.

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New oil added and the air filter cleaned, hopefully its ready for tomorrow.............I'm not. :cautious:

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I also went through the 2-stokes. The Stihl BG86 blower got its air filter blown out and a new spark plug. I also removed the spark arrestor in the muffler and burnt off the carbon. The BG86C I have set up as a vacuum got the same treatment as the blower, except the spark plug which was still pretty new. The Husqvarna 522L trimmer got its air filter and spark plug cleaned, I also removed the exhaust screen but it was clean and clear, this engine never seems to carbon up. Finally, I went around nipping up various T27 screws.
 
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Fitted an inline fuel filter on the Victa 18 today.

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I tried to get these locally, but my options are limited with small engine shops, and the one I went to of course doesn't bother stocking these very common Briggs & Stratton ones. Once again, online shopping to rescue.

These are a 1/4-inch barb Sten's branded aftermarket filter, OEM Briggs is hard to find in Australia. There are two types of these bi-directional filters, the white ones are for engines fitted with a fuel pump, the red ones for gravity fed fuel systems.



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It obviously looks a little out of place on such an old mower, but it's at least functional, unlike the rope material used on the fuel tap submerged in the tank. I'm not happy with the fuel line supplied with the carb kit, its already ultra hard, which has me wondering if its fuel grade hose, would be grateful for opinions on that.
 

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If you were trying to keep it looking original then I would hit that filter with a bit of silver paint and replace those fuel lines with some rubber fuel line. That clear stuff I can't help but think it will yellow/brown rapidly then become brittle, at least that has been my experience with those small clear lines on trimmers in the past.
 
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