Door swing

[Sumboodie]

Replacing this window with a door as it's a pain constantly walking to the back of the garage or opening the garage door.

Right hand, left hand? Out swing would be nice for space, but I've never seen exterior doors do that around here.

 

[Yankeefarmer]

I’d swing it toward the overhead door, because that wall space looks more limited anyway than towards the other window. I’ve heard that you guys get snow in Alaska. If true, and you want to use the door year round, in swing is the better choice anyway.

 

[Busted Knucles]

Left hand, out swing

 

[wrenchguy]

Commercial doors have to swing out. Left swing **** to **** towards overheard door.

 

[Doug B]

Any good lumberyard should be able to set up an outswing door for you, but I agree with Yankeefarmer about the snow, so I'd go with a left hand inswing.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Out swing will place the hinges outside and those can be pulled out and entry gained. You'd have to upgrade to get something better against break-ins.

Commercial doors swing out most of the time for fire code, depending on the occupational capacity.

 

[yeldogt]

You will lose space in the garage -- especially with a narrow garage.

What's the problem using the main door? I always set mine up that way. Door in the rear ... where the work benches are.

Out swing is nothing special. Any lumber yard can order -- simple locking hinge sold that problem .... same with the lock. Deadbolt. The problem you have is the truck so close.

 

[LeonardY]

What about an exterior grade pocket door?

 

[NUTTSGT]

What about an exterior grade pocket door?

A what ? I've never seen one, got a link ?

 

[larry_g]

You have to have a clear walkway to the door to use it, whichever way it swings. How do you lose any space if the door has to swing in across the space you have cleared for the walk way?

lg
no neat sig line

 

[1MtnGoat]

Out swing with tamper proof hinges and a latch security plate will provide better security and more usable room inside.

 

[steaks&anvils]

With the gas meter at the corner of the garage (between the window and the overhead garage door), does the gas line go along the wall sill under those windows?

 

[rburke65]

My door swings out. You can buy any swing ya want.

 

[LeonardY]

A what ? I've never seen one, got a link ?

https://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2014/04/04/out-of-sight-exterior-pocket-doors/

 

[Chapter21]

Out swing will place the hinges outside and those can be pulled out and entry gained. You'd have to upgrade to get something better against break-ins.

Commercial doors swing out most of the time for fire code, depending on the occupational capacity.

"Security" hinges don't really cost anymore than regular ones. Outswing doors are always way better against forced entry, you simply can't force it in unless you use a pickup truck.

I ALWAYS have an outswing door on a garage/shop with anything of value stored.

 

[The Cobbler]

been said already, but out-swing doors very common in commercial. NRP hinges ( non removable pins ) are easily obtainable. no more money than regular 4" or 4-1'2" commercial hinges .
in many ways, I think out-swing doors are more secure than in-swing. mush easier to force a door open by pushing on it than pulling on it.
My shed is hollow metal out-swing, I much prefer it to in-swing. Garage, I wasn't thinking when I built it & did 2 in-swing doors

 

[Professor Fate]

Inswing doors leak when the rain blows against them. Outswing doors do not. Interlock hinges work well when the door is installed correctly and you can get security covers for the lock throws, but there is always the glass window next to it that provides easy access to a determined thief.

 

[nadogail]

I have welded hinge pins in place to keep them from being easily knocked out. There is not much you can do to keep a determined person from breaking in; but you can make things difficult and slow them down.

 

[Sumboodie]

With the gas meter at the corner of the garage (between the window and the overhead garage door), does the gas line go along the wall sill under those windows?

No, it goes up the stud cavity and in the attic.

 

[Sumboodie]

My door swings out. You can buy any swing ya want.

I realize that. I've never seen an exterior door swing out around here though. It would be a fire escape issue in the winter.
It's a PITA with the storm doors, I've had to get outside through the vehicle door several times.

 

[Sumboodie]

Out swing will place the hinges outside and those can be pulled out and entry gained. You'd have to upgrade to get something better against break-ins.

Commercial doors swing out most of the time for fire code, depending on the occupational capacity.

Or they could just open the door if they wanted in.

 

[Chapter21]

Hmmm...kind of a unique area you're in there, it may be a bad idea to swing out if snow is going to pile up there. A swing out door is uncommon in most residential settings, but most home doors are also only held in with decorative 3/4" screws into the jamb. And I've never seen a properly installed dead latch!

Honestly probably more important to use good long screws into the studs, and a good deadbolt for any security. I once had somebody simply cut my metal out swinging shop door in half with a sawzall to rob me. To be fair, the hinges and deadbolt worked!

 

[Sumboodie]

Hmmm...kind of a unique area you're in there, it may be a bad idea to swing out if snow is going to pile up there. A swing out door is uncommon in most residential settings, but most home doors are also only held in with decorative 3/4" screws into the jamb. And I've never seen a properly installed dead latch!

Honestly probably more important to use good long screws into the studs, and a good deadbolt for any security.

I'd probably need to lock the doors before worrying about what screws to use in a door jam.

 

[Gunfixr]

Sumboodie, is that a Unimog in the last pic?
Sure looks like one.......

 

[CraigStu]

I always think about battery powered saws when thinking about some one breaking in. If I were a thief I'd figure the quietest saw to just cut a hole in a wall. 90% of all houses and garages have a 2x4 stud wall so cutting through it is a layer each of drywall, insulation, OSB, vinyl siding. An extra long 5/8 bit for a starter hole, and a recip saw w/ a long blade and you could cut an opening in maybe 2 minutes. Heck you could just cut the siding and osb layers and push your way through the insulation and drywall.

 

[Sumboodie]

Got a quote for about $1000 for door and labor. Door with knob is around $300, then maybe $75 for j channel and interior trim.

 

[Sumboodie]

You will lose space in the garage -- especially with a narrow garage.

What's the problem using the main door? I always set mine up that way. Door in the rear ... where the work benches are.

Out swing is nothing special. Any lumber yard can order -- simple locking hinge sold that problem .... same with the lock. Deadbolt. The problem you have is the truck so close.

Truck is ~8ft away.

 

[Sumboodie]

You will lose space in the garage -- especially with a narrow garage.

What's the problem using the main door? I always set mine up that way. Door in the rear ... where the work benches are.

Out swing is nothing special. Any lumber yard can order -- simple locking hinge sold that problem .... same with the lock. Deadbolt. The problem you have is the truck so close.

Opening an 18x8 door when it's -20* outside and 60* inside just to walk into the garage is a huge waste of heat.

 

[Sumboodie]

Sumboodie, is that a Unimog in the last pic?
Sure looks like one.......

Yes

 

[Gunfixr]

Sweet......

 

[yeldogt]

Opening an 18x8 door when it's -20* outside and 60* inside just to walk into the garage is a huge waste of heat.

Depends on how often and how long .... heating air is cheap. If you have the space ...go for it ... they waste in small spaces.

 

[greg13]

In swing, and figure the direction you are most likely to travel when you get inside to determine right or left swing.

 

[Sumboodie]

Depends on how often and how long .... heating air is cheap. If you have the space ...go for it ... they waste in small spaces.

Heating air is cheap?

Tell that to my gas bill.

 

[Showkey]

Security is a moot point as far as this door change. There’s a another window 15’ away. So if your TRUELY concerned about security there are dozens other opportunities.

Think a choice of door that “looks right”.......as in it came that way from day one would be far more important. Maybe even a service door witha window.

 

[Bert_]

I would want a door also. Opening the overhead door is fine for a storage building, not a shop.

Outswing is no big deal if you want it. Might not be in stock but can easily order it. I like an in swing door. Right or left really depends on how your space is laid out.

 

[rburke65]

well if snow is the issue, you have your answer.

 

[loganb]

Outswings are common for that, but in your climate I get the inswing preference as it doesn't do much good if you can't open it. Make sure you're clear with the vendor as to what side the hinges are on, industry standard is supposed to be saying "left hinge" or "right hinge" as viewed from the exterior, but not always followed. I think I'd also go with a left hinge swinging the panel towards the door as that appears to be the less usable area

 

[K'ledgeBldr]

Lft swing- I’ll leave the in/out to you.

But let’s talk about the Unimog! Those things are beasts! I drove a 406 occasionally when I was stationed in Germany.

 

[Sumboodie]

Talked to my Dad and I think outswing will work best. Can leave door open against the outside wall. In swing would mean losing wall space in an already too small garage.

 

[Sumboodie]

Lft swing- I’ll leave the in/out to you.

But let’s talk about the Unimog! Those things are beasts! I drove a 406 occasionally when I was stationed in Germany.

It's a project. Need to put an engine in it first. Current engine is seized. Have a turbo one to go in, though may not be able to run the turbo.